Similar to the Mastercard / Apple Pay promotion last year, Mastercard and Android Pay will provide free TfL travel (including bus, Tube and DLR etc) on four Mondays in October.
The only difference is that they are offering free coffee this time too!
In a bid to boost mobile payments, Mastercard kicked-off a series of promotional events last year where it would pay for Londoners' travel if they used its cards to tap in and out of the Tube with Apple Pay. It must have been a success, because today the card giant confirmed that it will do the same for cardholders with Android devices, allowing you to travel on London's travel networks for free every Monday throughout October.
All you need to do is have a Mastercard loaded onto your Android Pay wallet and then use it to touch in and out, like you would an Oyster or contactless card. The offer is available on October 3rd, 10th, 17th and 24th and covers travel up to £30.50 across bus, Tube, tram, DLR, Tfl Rail, London Overground routes and most National Rail services in London. It even covers Emirates Air Line cable car and the MBNA Thames Clippers River Bus service.
If that wasn't enough, Mastercard has also teamed up with Caffè Nero to offer a free coffee or hot drink on those dates. For both offers, you will need to pay for your travel and drinks initially, but Mastercard will refund the fare (which could take up to 28 days).
This promotion is open to holders of a Mastercard® card issued by a UK financial institution with an Android Pay compatible device (4.4 operating system or above and NFC enabled).
Under 18’s will require guardian/parental consent to take part.
Offer only valid when using a Mastercard card with Android Pay.
The offer will be available during a series of eight Promotional Periods on four consecutive Mondays commencing 03/10/2016:
Promotional Period 1 (“PP1”) – TfL Travel Offer – 04:30 on 03/10/2016 to 01:00 on 04/10/2016
Promotional Period 2 (“PP2”) – TfL Travel Offer – 04:30 on 10/10/2016 to 01:00 on 11/10/2016
Promotional Period 3 (“PP3”) – TfL Travel Offer – 04:30 on 17/10/2016 to 01:00 on 18/10/2016
Promotional Period 4 (“PP4”) – TfL Travel Offer – 04:30 on 24/10/2016 to 01:00 on 25/10/2016
Promotional Period 5 (“PP5”) – Caffè Nero Coffee Offer – 00:00 to 23:59 on 03/10/2016
Promotional Period 6 (“PP6”) – Caffè Nero Coffee Offer – 00:00 to 23:59 on 10/10/2016
Promotional Period 7 (“PP7”) – Caffè Nero Coffee Offer – 00:00 to 23:59 on 17/10/2016
Promotional Period 8 (“PP8”) – Caffè Nero Coffee Offer – 00:00 to 23:59 on 24/10/2016
Transport for London Travel Offer
To redeem the offer, cardholders must use their Mastercard card with Android Pay for pay as you go travel on bus, Tube, tram, DLR, London Overground, TfL Rail, Emirates Air Line, Thames Clippers River Bus, Gatwick Express and most National Rail services in London during PP1, PP2, PP3 and/or PP4.
The offer entitles cardholders to receive a refund against their pay as you go travel costs made with a Mastercard card with Android Pay on bus, Tube, tram, DLR, London Overground, TfL Rail, Emirates Air Line, Thames Clippers River Bus, Gatwick Express and most National Rail services in London to a maximum value of £30.50 per cardholder, per PP1, PP2, PP3 and PP4. The offer is as stated and nothing else is included.
The refund will take up to 28 working days from the end of each Promotional Period to appear in the Mastercard cardholder’s account. Please note that the refund will be posted to the cardholder’s account by their issuing bank and will be dependent on Mastercard having processed the relevant transactions. Any queries relating to delayed or missing refunds must be raised within 2 months of the close of Promotional Period 4.
All qualifying journeys must be paid for using a UK Mastercard card with Android Pay.
Cardholders who use Mastercard with Android Pay must have an active account, with the requisite funds to cover their TfL travel costs during PP1, PP2, PP3 and PP4.
To qualify for the offer, you must touch your Android Pay device on a yellow card reader at the start and end of each journey made on Tube, DLR, London Overground, TfL Rail, Gatwick Express, Emirates Air Line, Thames Clippers River Bus and most National Rail services in London (or any combination of these) and at intermediate points where required. On buses and trams you must only touch in at the start of your journey.
Offer is subject to the TfL Contactless Payment Cards Conditions of Use located at http://www.tfl.gov.uk/terms.
Caffè Nero Coffee Offer
This offer entitles Mastercard cardholders to one any-size Espresso, Caffè Latte, Cappuccino, Americano, Caffè Mocha, Flat White, Standard Hot Chocolate or Tea.
Offer excludes additional syrups, extras, speciality drinks, cold drinks and all other food or beverage items.
To redeem the offer, cardholders can visit any Caffè Nero shop or express outlet in England, Wales and Scotland during PP5, PP6, PP7 or PP8:
When ordering the free coffee only, cardholders must present their Mastercard loaded within Android Pay to the Barista when ordering.
When ordering the free coffee with additional items, cardholders must present their Mastercard loaded within Android Pay and then tap to pay for any additional items with their Mastercard with Android Pay.
Maximum 1 coffee per cardholder per PP5, PP6, PP7 and PP8.
Anyone using someone else’s Android Device or attempting to redeem the offer more than once during either PP5, PP6, PP7 and/or PP8 will be refused the free coffee.
Caffè Nero staff reserve the right to ask a customer to show the verifying email address within the Android Pay app, proof of ID and/or the relevant Mastercard card if they have any concerns regarding the authenticity of the customer.
Caffè Nero staff reserve the right to refuse the offer to any customer where there are reasonable grounds to believe there has been a breach of these terms and conditions.
General
Offers subject to normal availability.
Offers cannot be used in conjunction with any other discount, offer or promotion.
To the fullest extent possible in law, neither Mastercard nor agencies involved in this promotion will be liable for any loss or damage whatsoever caused by matters relating to this promotion.
By redeeming these offers, Mastercard cardholders will be deemed to be bound by and have accepted these terms and conditions.
Any question concerning the legal interpretation of the rules will be based on English law and the Courts of England and Wales will have exclusive jurisdiction.
In exceptional circumstances, the Promoter reserves the right to vary these terms and conditions or withdraw the offer at any stage.
Top comments
shonkydonkey
3 Oct 168#121
TFL gates (or my phone) are always temperamental, and clearly governed by the law of Sod.
Android Pay will work perfectly every time, UNTIL you are at a gate with a thousand grumpy commuters behind you... then you present your phone to the reader, it will splutter, maybe vibrate, tease you with the prospect of escape... multiple tenths of a second pass and nothing happens. Time slows to a crawl. A thousand pairs of eyes bear down on you, accusing. You hope, against hope, that the magic is just taking longer than normal.... but no, the gate stands firm, unyielding, unwilling to accept your puny Android offering. You feel a shove in your back as you realise you have destroyed the natural flow of humanity - the river of people is not flowing, the beating heart of the city is having a coronary, and IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT.
You mumble "sorry" and step aside, broken and worthless.
jamhole to JAK68
28 Sep 167#6
is there anywhere else other than London where you can pay for a pay as you go journey by tapping on the barriers as opposed to a ticket machine?
JAK68
28 Sep 164#3
Why just free travel in London... What about the rest of the country :disappointed:
Solly92
28 Sep 164#22
Cold from me. My privacy is worth more than a cup of coffee.
I would never give google a credit card number and so a definite identity to associate with all the other personal information I can't stop them collecting.I don't want to tell google anything about what I buy with credit cards either.
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karlie88
28 Sep 161#1
I wasn't sure whether the free coffee was applicable to London stores only, but the T&Cs state that it'll be valid in England, Wales and Scotland which is a nice bonus.
Ta OP.
naveidanwar
28 Sep 16#2
so you don't have to be in London to avail free coffee, right? and don't need to pay by android as cafe Nero doesn't do contactless
termite to naveidanwar
28 Sep 162#4
They've accepted contactless payments for years.
JAK68
28 Sep 164#3
Why just free travel in London... What about the rest of the country :disappointed:
jamhole to JAK68
28 Sep 167#6
is there anywhere else other than London where you can pay for a pay as you go journey by tapping on the barriers as opposed to a ticket machine?
benjefreys
28 Sep 16#5
Anyone find its a bit slow? I tried it last couple days takes longer than contactless debit card.
jamhole to benjefreys
28 Sep 16#7
i find android pay quicker than contactless debit card??
benjefreys
28 Sep 16#8
What phone are you using? im on HTC 10
jamhole
28 Sep 16#9
im using Sony Z3. I find it takes a few seconds to register with debit card, whereas my phone is virtually instant
5ilver
28 Sep 16#10
Thanks OP for the heads-up.
Please could someone confirm that Revolut prepaid master cards are eligible to avail this offer.
Extract from master card website"Simple setup
Once you have the Android Pay app you can load your Mastercard credit, debit, small business and reloadable prepaid cards from participating issuers and use them with Android Pay. "
Not in London but What do I need to do to get a free coffee ?
Edit: Aah bugger. My phone to old to be compatible with Android Pay app.
So no free coffee :disappointed:
Reading1800
28 Sep 16#13
No good for Tesco MasterCard
charliemike
28 Sep 164#14
Disgusting this isn't available on Apple. Effectively racism.
sydney871 to charliemike
28 Sep 16#16
Apple had a similar promotion last year or was it this year.
cipnt to charliemike
28 Sep 161#19
As if Apple/iOS is the platform that shares anything with the rest of the world
whereiskevinn to charliemike
28 Sep 16#20
I'm assuming this was a humour post? Either way, this has absolutely nothing to do with race.
sydney871
28 Sep 16#15
Shame I do not have an Android. My old Samsung Galaxy S3 is not compatible.....
5ilver
28 Sep 16#17
Thanks for the link, unfortunately Revolut is also not included.
MYS
28 Sep 16#18
I'm probably going to sound a bit stupid, but How do you get hold of a MasterCard debit card?
I've never had one before. Always had visa cards.
Kreskin to MYS
28 Sep 16#21
You don't need one for this deal. Just link a supported MasterCard credit card to your android pay account.
Solly92
28 Sep 164#22
Cold from me. My privacy is worth more than a cup of coffee.
I would never give google a credit card number and so a definite identity to associate with all the other personal information I can't stop them collecting.I don't want to tell google anything about what I buy with credit cards either.
fr33radicalls to Solly92
28 Sep 161#25
they are going to try and get there finger in every pie i would imagine, this is what these companies are about now it seems, dominance , control i suppose, i totally understand you view though, there are concerns, serious ones, i think we underestimate our power as consumers and until we start coming together and exercising that power these companies will continue to gain more and more power. anyway i need to buy more stuff i don't need and cant afford and that i would like to spend on something else more fulfilling.
Topper1900 to Solly92
28 Sep 16#29
If you've got an Apple or Android phone your privacy has already gone anyway? Plus if your using a chrome browser Google also know what your viewing unless you've gone incognito?
At the end of the day all Google can do it target adverts etc at you, they can't tip off the coffee police your drinking too many cappuccinos!
Ross81
28 Sep 16#23
So how does the coffee work then do I just pay with my Android Pay (already Mastercard linked) and tell them I was the promotional coffee?
johnsmith1997 to Ross81
28 Sep 16#36
I assume you just order your coffee as normal and pay via contactless.
No need to tell Nero because it will be recorded by Mastercard that you have made a transaction with Caffe Nero for X amount.
fr33radicalls
28 Sep 16#24
if it was humour , and im guessing it is then the joke is calling something that is obviously not racism racism
so it is funny and it has absolutely nothing to do with race .... you both win, not a prize, just put your fist in the air and go yeah...!
SFconvert
28 Sep 16#26
What's the cheapest NFC phone you can get?
friiza
28 Sep 16#27
Dunno
Aiadi
28 Sep 16#28
Any chance of this eventually working on rooted phones???
ssc1
28 Sep 161#30
will take advantage of this. cable car sounds good. heat!
johnsmith1997 to ssc1
28 Sep 161#34
Me to.
Still haven't been on the White Elephant yet.:smile:
johnsmith1997
28 Sep 16#31
Cause it has.
Is racist against Apples.
EdCov
28 Sep 16#32
Thought I could use this, but Android Pay tells me it cannot confirm it is Android compatible. My phone is running the stock software, but is rooted.
Saying that the only way I managed to get space on the phone to install Android Pay was by using Link2SD, so even if my phone was not rooted I would not be able to use it.
johnsmith1997 to EdCov
28 Sep 16#33
Has your phone got NFC?
sarathkoka
28 Sep 16#35
thanks
Solly92
29 Sep 16#37
Keep telling yourself that. I know it makes you feel better about giving up your own privacy if you can convince yourself everyone else has as well.
seaniboy
29 Sep 16#38
Get then Cafe Nero's! Even if you dont drink coffee throw it away...teach nasties for not paying UK tax, let them know what its like to be left out of pocket.
dantheman121
29 Sep 16#39
It's a shame Barclays customers can't use Android Pay as I'd have saved a few quid here
Yes, this is too generous too us lucky Londoners. We are very fortunate to get our travel discounted to the point where our travel costs will only be double yours for the month, rather than triple.
huusshh
29 Sep 161#42
Commenti use to believe all this privacy stuff... But then I realised I was only concerned about privacy cos others were.
So what's the worse that can happen?
Theft? Fraud? No problem I get the money back
Someone knows my address? No problem, they can send me gift or spam (I get enough from local pizza and agents- more free scrap for kids)
Someone uses my identity? No problem.. Could be an alibi when I need it ;-) I'll get money back anyway
Get caught on dating site? Teaches us a lesson not to cheat.
I upgraded to google 100mg per month about £3 per month with my credit card - I had so much spam over 15gig... I'm I bothered ? Not really... I have filter set so only ever look into one folder...
You can't beat it in this day and age, if on my death bed I'm worried which company's going to know I'm dying and what spam or fraud someone going to do... Only then id be worried
pramms
29 Sep 161#43
So Free Neo coffee on Monday and with the 02 priority , free coffee on Tuesday
supporting
29 Sep 161#44
You need to read the article again - the vulnerability has nothing to do with whether or not you use Android Pay - merely pointing out that contactless payment has the potential to be a vehicle for fraudulent / stolen card details - and that Android it a more likely carrier as it's easier to develop the required software for.
ie - they could steal your details by an existing method, then load them onto their own android pay app
benjefreys
29 Sep 16#45
Maybe its my phone then will keep trying at rush hour :laughing:
jackvdbuk
29 Sep 16#46
damn my phone is rooted (nexus 5x) anyway i can still do this as i remember android pay doesnt work on rooted phones
Made use of it 1st time round when it was for Contactless cards.
No good last year cause don't have rubbish Apple.
Will be going again this year.:smiley:
Peeps,make sure your battery is in good condition and topped up before setting off.:smiley:
ftbf444
29 Sep 16#50
Thanks! Great deal
daskapital
29 Sep 16#51
Hot. In London on each of those dates :smile: thankyou !!
LaTerciaReal
29 Sep 16#52
So you need to have a screen lock set. Looks like I'll be adding the card on each of the Mondays and put up with the screen lock for a while, then take it off again.
coldo
29 Sep 16#53
I wish the buses in the rest of the UK where like the London buses !! contactless all the way man !! I hate the bus companies that don't give hange any more on buses ...must pay for the big bosses bonuses !!!
dealpickle
29 Sep 16#54
I'll second this question. What's the cheapest Android NFC phone on PAYG around at the moment? I've had a look online and it isn't always easy to find out which phones have NFC and which don't. Help!
randomthoughtt
29 Sep 16#55
Do I need to have WiFi or mobile data enabled to make the payment on the card reader??
randomthoughtt
29 Sep 16#56
I have 4.4.4 KTU84P Android version. Apparently,this is also not compatible for Android Pay. Is there a way out??
hemp
29 Sep 16#57
Will it work with a code from Virgin Red app (BOGOF)?
FlashbackUK
29 Sep 161#58
Vodafone Smart Ultra 6 is a good bet. Can often pickup for anywhere between £100-115.
sethjohnson555
29 Sep 16#59
I'm unable to get this to work with my Mastercard from Metrobank. Anyone able to do that?
juliettcronk
29 Sep 16#60
so you have to pay for it first and then wait for a refund................
dybydx
29 Sep 16#61
That's how it worked for ApplePay promotions in the past - never had an issue with it personally.
dealpickle
29 Sep 16#62
Ta for the reply. Was hoping for something (a lot) cheaper though. Guess NFC doesn't come cheap...
acasserole
29 Sep 16#63
Can you use a credit card master card?
LaTerciaReal
29 Sep 16#64
Don't see why not, you're paying for one drink as far as the cafe is concerned.
maltikism
29 Sep 161#65
what is "other than London"? does such a place exist? let me ask our government.... nope, they said they've never heard of that place either.
mrspydey
29 Sep 16#66
thanks
Civilised Maniac
29 Sep 16#67
Why not?
Civilised Maniac
29 Sep 16#68
Why not?
johnsmith1997
29 Sep 16#69
I just use my S4 on Mondays and my other phones for the other days.:smile:
johnsmith1997
29 Sep 16#70
No NFC
Civilised Maniac
30 Sep 16#71
My S3 has NFC
swtchick87
30 Sep 16#72
Natwest hasnt rolled out the use of their credit card on the wallet
sydney871
30 Sep 16#73
Why not have used Natwest Mastercard on Apple Pay last year no problems?
Civilised Maniac
30 Sep 16#74
Oh, I've got the LTE version which did officially get 4.4.4
anonimousse
30 Sep 16#75
The bad news: your S3 is still incompatible, despite the I9305 running official 4.4.4. However, you are still welcome to try it out if you have not done so already.
The update to KitKat was designed to deliver HCE capability to devices in order to integrate with closed-loop payment systems and offer contactless solution. IIRC the twist with your device is that it either contains a NFC controller which is incompatible or an older version that is not supported.
raza786
2 Oct 16#76
I have an M&S Mastercard and anroid pay installed on my phone. Will i get it?
lxx
2 Oct 16#77
◦When ordering the free coffee only, cardholders must present their Mastercard loaded within Android Pay to the Barista when ordering.
Does that mean using the MasterCard rather than Android Pay when ordering the free coffee?
Thanks :smiley:
MR1123
2 Oct 16#78
android pay
lxx
2 Oct 16#79
Thanks :smiley:
raj75
2 Oct 16#80
Anyone knows if Capital One Credit Card and Pockit Prepaid Cards are accepted?
arthurqpr
2 Oct 16#81
why not tweet them to complain? they are @tescobanknews and @tescobankhelp. Every paying customer who uses their voice should be able to affect change.
I know I'm going to tweet them, and say I'm cancelling until they get with the 21st century.
shonkydonkey
2 Oct 163#82
Reading the above, for the free coffee it appears you will need to present your Android Pay (loaded with MasterCard) to your friendly barista. Do not tap and pay.
If ordering anything else, "tap to pay for any additional items with their Mastercard with Android Pay"
SD
zworld
2 Oct 16#83
Do prepaid cards work ?
naveidanwar
3 Oct 16#84
Offers cannot be used in conjunction with any other discount, offer or promotion.
general terms and condition number 21 from MasterCard, I'm afraid.
PhiL_P
3 Oct 16#85
Dammit I just got a coffee and just did tap and pay :disappointed:
Anyone presented their phone to the barista yet to see what they did with it?
metronome
3 Oct 16#86
The Nero staff had no idea about this today in Victoria stn, I showed them the offer wording on Mastercard website and they just wanted a code which I said there isn't one... I didn't tap the phone but they still gave me the coffee... tweeted mastercard and nero to see what to do but havent heard back!
rolstherat
3 Oct 16#87
Cant use my mastercard on Android pay :-(
lxx
3 Oct 16#88
My Android Pay did not work to touch in at the tube station :disappointed:
MR1123
3 Oct 16#89
Why are you asking staff? It clearly states to pay by Android pay.
metronome
3 Oct 16#90
How does that work? Is it a rebate or does Nero just not charge you?
Ahhh I see, 28 day rebate.
LaTerciaReal
3 Oct 16#91
More like usual general waffle, doubt the card issuer will even know that you used Virgin Red.
Mickyfinn
3 Oct 16#92
Four Mastercards in my wallet. None work work with Android Pay. Most of the listed banks use visa. Now do undelete the app...
raj75
3 Oct 162#93
Yes same for me.. We have HSBC, TSB, Lloyds bank accounts. All provide Visa cards for Debit cards.
It seems if you need Mastercard, you need apply for Credit Cards.
stevesmiff
3 Oct 162#94
This Caffè Nero Coffee Offer is by no means clear...
TFL one is straight forward... use MasterCard on Android Pay to tap in/out and within 28 days you get a refund to your account for the journey cost.
Caffè Nero seems to be a case of show your Android Pay app to the Barista with a Mastercard loaded on the screen and they give you a free coffee. It only says to pay for "additional items" with Android Pay and doesn't mention anything about a refund to your MasterCard account. This suggests that it is a case of show the app on your screen to get the coffee but not to pay for it with the app! An earlier comment and my hunch is that this will be difficult due to staff not being made aware of the offer.
Anyone managed to show the app and staff knew about it?
hemp
3 Oct 16#95
I agree. Not sure what to do :disappointed:
adrianfinnis
3 Oct 162#96
This is my understanding: you DO NOT pay with Android Pay, you merely show your MasterCard image from within the app. The tfl travel costs get refunded but the Caffe Nero purchases won't. I just went to the Westminster branch and they had no clue about Android Pay, but they did know about MasterCard. In fact when I got my free drink the till showed "Mastercard discount" so I would suggest mentioning the MasterCard offer rather than the Android Pay offer.
lxx
3 Oct 16#97
Agreed :smiley:
MR1123
3 Oct 16#98
Sorry I was wrong this is the correct way to get free drink.
V6ALFISTI
3 Oct 16#99
This is what I did this morning at Victoria Street Caffe Nero. They did look very confused and were searching for the 'code'.
In the end they gave up, and stamped up a new loyalty card to make the 'payment'.
Poor management/comms from Caffe Nero IMO
hemp
3 Oct 161#100
Thanks for your comment, you saved me £2.40. Manager in my local Nero said I had to pay and would get a refund later. I showed him your comment and he searched for a MasterCard discount. In the end he found it and I got my free coffee :smile:
philbean
3 Oct 16#101
Just tried in my local Caffe Nero. They knew nothing about it. Manager was there and I told them it was a Mastercard offer. She said nobody had told them.
No free coffee. :disappointed:
johnnyboyuk
3 Oct 16#102
Ok, this should clear things up. You DO NOT use the Android tap system to pay for Cafe Nero.
They will ask for a code to pay for the coffee like the O2 code offers. Show them the info online if necessary but they should have an internal memo from a head office. There is an internal new code for MasterCard they can use on their till. Make sure you show the MasterCard Car in the Android app to qualify.
Just be friendly and show them the site if necessary and this should be all you need for your free coffee. Enjoy!
rapid111111
3 Oct 16#103
Just tried it at my local Caffè Nero. They knew about the Android pay promotion. Didn't really look at my phone. Didn't tap either. They just made it free on their system.
Matt J
3 Oct 16#104
Not sure that *not* using the Android Pay app is the right advice. The instructions on the MasterCard website are clearer than in the T&Cs:
I can confirm this works, just got a large cappuccino in Edinburgh without saying a word to the staff. Tapped my phone as I usually do, it accepted it but doesn't register a charge (you can see this on the mini-statement, there's no item for the transaction).
hemp
3 Oct 16#105
Have you checked your statement with the data on? My transactions appear once I enabled WiFi or data.
overworked
3 Oct 16#106
Went to the branch in Canary Wharf and they said they are not accepting card payments today. Will try again next Monday.
jackvdbuk
3 Oct 16#107
Worked for me on a rooted device by using magisk and phh superuser.
any questions, feel free to ask ill try and help.
awesome idea, really like the system and possibilities.
dealpickle
3 Oct 16#108
There's a big advert in today's Metro about this whole scheme, might be worth showing that to Nero staff if they aren't aware.
dealpickle
3 Oct 16#109
Are you sure your phone is NFC-enabled?
jackvdbuk
3 Oct 16#110
i wondered why it didnt appear, thought it may be something to do cafe nero reconciling AP transactions at EOD. glad i wont be charged anyway :smiley:
lxx
3 Oct 16#111
Yes, NFC has been enabled but when I tried to touch in it read 'Seek Assistance', the staff at the tube station had no idea what went wrong and asked me to try another barrier, no luck either :disappointed:
Can I use the Android Pay with the same card on 2 devices? Maybe I am going to try another phone.
pengwyn
3 Oct 16#112
The Nero staff knew nothing about the offer they found the code to give me it free but they didn't even check the virtual card on my phone. Why would you pay when there's nothing to pay.... confused. I was the first so it's not been advertised well
rapid111111
3 Oct 16#113
Tried the Thames Clipper, wouldn't accept android pay. Kept on saying something like card not read.
cityslicker
3 Oct 16#114
Did it previously with Apple Pay and tried today with Android pay.
TFL works as expected. Use it on just about any form of London transport. End of the day. TFL will tot it all up like they always do for contactless. A couple of weeks later it will all be refunded to your MasterCard. Result!!! as a normal working day costs me more than a tenner and this offer allows me to use various modes of transport to get around. No more walking when I can take a free bus.
The Cafe Nero deal is unclear. I got caught. as others say. You do not tap your phone. You just wave your phone at the staff muttering "MasterCard offer". They will press a button on the till and it will be free. most staff won't have a clue but someone will eventually. Will obviously sort itself next week when all the staff read the memo and manager take notice of all be people using android pay today.
But why is an android pay promotion not actually using android pay? Sounds like a badly prepared IT department at Nero or MasterCard. Tut tut.
I wonder how much money they made by people buying coffee at £2.70 and zapping their phones.
The advert in the metro makes out like you have to tap. Which you do on tFL.
Shame also on MasterCard on not having proper feedback mechanism advertised. O2 at least have a Twitter feed which they do respond to about the 02 priority offers which screw up like the M&S cake offer. And Amex offers have a hotline which quickly processes refund on their offers if they go wrong. Customer service makes happy punters.
overworked
3 Oct 16#115
Cafe Nero in Westfield Stratford also only accepting cash payments today. That's 2 branches I visited today. I wonder if they are accepting any card payments at any of their stores today.
LaTerciaReal
3 Oct 16#116
Used it at lunchtime in Coventry, barista didn't really know what to do, he was reading the issued flyer but couldn't understand whether showing the card on your phone is enough. He rightly pointed out that you could do it as many times as you like (if need be, at different branches). He accepted it, anyway. Just as well as card machine was down (sounds like a national problem today).
shuo23
3 Oct 16#117
Does anyone else have problem with Android pay tap in/out? It worked perfectly at Canary Wharf when I touched in but didn't work at all when I was trying to touch out at Kew Gardens - I tried more than 10 times and it kept saying touch failure - had to touch out with my bank card at the end
rapid111111
3 Oct 16#118
Yes, I had a problem with it on TFL's Thames Clipper and had to use the actual card and tap it. Everywhere else worked fine.
Not sure who to call to resolve it, Mastercard told me call bank, bank told me call TFL. Let's see who TFL will tell me to call now...
MR1123
3 Oct 16#119
Cafe Nero.
davening
3 Oct 161#120
LG Leon has NFC on Vodafone at 29 plus 10pound topup. Search for HUKD on this phone.
shonkydonkey
3 Oct 168#121
TFL gates (or my phone) are always temperamental, and clearly governed by the law of Sod.
Android Pay will work perfectly every time, UNTIL you are at a gate with a thousand grumpy commuters behind you... then you present your phone to the reader, it will splutter, maybe vibrate, tease you with the prospect of escape... multiple tenths of a second pass and nothing happens. Time slows to a crawl. A thousand pairs of eyes bear down on you, accusing. You hope, against hope, that the magic is just taking longer than normal.... but no, the gate stands firm, unyielding, unwilling to accept your puny Android offering. You feel a shove in your back as you realise you have destroyed the natural flow of humanity - the river of people is not flowing, the beating heart of the city is having a coronary, and IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT.
You mumble "sorry" and step aside, broken and worthless.
Voodle
3 Oct 16#122
I got my free coffee today, I just set my mastercard as the default, opened the Android pay app so I could see it. Tapped to pay with it and I was not charged the £2 for my espresso :smiley: Usually it would show a charge on the charge instantly if I did that and it cost something, it shows the tick/circle so I'm pretty sure it worked okay.
The guy at the till had no idea about the offer.
Then I bought something else to eat with some change, to avoid breaking the freebie part.
metronome
4 Oct 16#123
yeh i thought that, check it now, you will see the charge come up
Voodle
4 Oct 16#124
Oh okay, now it shows. Then I guess maybe it gets refunded or maybe it doesn't? haha
jowest85
4 Oct 16#125
does this also work on iphones (if so which models) or is it just android?
jackvdbuk
4 Oct 16#126
it's an Android pay promotion with MasterCard..so no iPhone.
philbean
4 Oct 16#127
Well if Caffe Nero thought this promo would gain them more customers then its failed big time.
Not even gonna bother trying next Monday. Back to Costas as usual.
stevesmiff
4 Oct 16#128
I popped in my local Nero today and they have little cardboard templates attached to the side of their card machines saying something along the lines of accepting MasterCard via Android pay and also mentions the free coffee in October. Think they'll be hard pressed to not know anything about it when it is attached to their card machines. May be store specific but I'm certainly more confident about trying this next week!
johnsmith1997
4 Oct 16#129
My experience of using AndroidPay:
I tried at 1st on Aeroplane mode and it said you need a signal for Android Pay to work.
(I'm thinking how are you suppose to pay when there is no/poor signal ie.underground,
inside shopping centre etc.)
On exit at New Malden station,I had to try about 10 times before the damn thing worked.
I was worried if I didn't touch out I would be charged the penalty fare so thankfully it
eventually worked.
I also noticed that there is a slight delay (ie.a bit slower) compared with using my
usual Nationwide contactless card.
And so to answer your question,yes it is a bit rubbish,as on more than one occasion I had to try a few times before the transaction went through,whereas my usual Nationwide contactless does it straight away.
Tip: Bring a contactless card with you in case damn thing no work!!
johnsmith1997
4 Oct 16#130
See wok tfl/Mastercard says,as the promo is for using Mastercard via AndroidPay.
Since you didn't go through AndroidPay,they might charge you for Thames clipper journey.:neutral_face:
MR1123
4 Oct 161#131
i used it on the bus it didnt work and people were queuing behind me so paid by card, on my way back i held it a bit longer and it worked. this was yesterday, so today i thought if i hold it long enough it would work, i waited maybe 1 min holding it like a dummy, then paid by card.
STi_prodrive
4 Oct 16#132
hottt
rapid111111
4 Oct 161#133
Of course they'll charge me. I've put in a refund request.
dealpickle
5 Oct 16#134
That's a real bargain, but it looks like there is no stock anywhere, and HUKDers who have ordered it have found that it never arrives. Great spot though, ta for the reply. I'd buy it if I could find it!
hemp
5 Oct 16#135
Is the journey from Watford junction included? Thanks :smiley:
davening
5 Oct 16#136
Regarding the LG Leon, it was indeed quite a fiasco at that time trying to get hold of it. Wonky Voda website, item on backorder but no communication, enforced 10pound topup unusable as cash depending on how rabid is your local Voda store, hence didnt participate in getting one then but its been a while since then.
Yesterday, found a nicer Voda store and am going to try for the Leon online delivering to that store and get topup as credit instead.
LG Leon has Android 6 update too.
dealpickle
5 Oct 16#137
Good luck, but it seems to list that phone as being on a 1-2 week wait either in-store (wherever you try in London and the South-East, where I am) or for delivery. That sort of time frame sounds to me like the company is out of stock, and there's maybe just a few handsets lying around in the odd store. :disappointed:
dealpickle
5 Oct 16#138
Hey, thanks for getting in touch mate. The site says you don't have private messaging enabled (?), so that's why i'm replying here.To be honest, I just wanted something with NFC as cheap as possible to make use of this free travel offer (and a Clubcard points offer as well). I'm no expert on smartphones (i've just got an old Lumia running Windows, which is fairly useless these days) and had never heard of the LG Leon you mentioned, which is easily the best deal i've seen. The Vodafone Smart phones you mention I have heard of, but they do seem to be reviewed a fair bit better than the Leon. I don't use my mobile much though, so am only really after one to make use of offers like this, so i'll keep an eye out for a Leon somewhere.
Huge thanks for all the info, I really appreciate it. You certainly know a lot more about all this than I do!
Davening - just so you know, I literally can't message you, it says you don't have private messaging enabled whenever I try to send you something. You might need to get in touch with the site admin about this.
davening
6 Oct 16#145
Have sent a mesg to hukd support. Definitely havent seen any pm from yourself and all settings look ok.
Thanks for confirming I have a wonky hukd setup.
johnsmith1997
6 Oct 161#146
Why not try getting a refurbished phone from places like cex?
Will be cheaper and can always re-trade it after the tfl offer has finished.
dealpickle
6 Oct 16#147
I did actually have a look in my (very smelly) branch of CEX the other day, but the cheapest smartphone was a Sony Tipo (never heard of it) and that was £35 even without NFC! I'd only be using the phone for two of the three remaining Mondays in this offer so it will now only save me £12.40, so I really don't want to spend much. But seeing as this kind of offer does seem to come up with some regularity i'm probably going to try and track down the LG Leon that Davening mentioned above, particularly since it can handle a fairly recent version of Android.
drummerdickens
7 Oct 16#148
Wonderful. Well done that man.
johnsmith1997
7 Oct 161#149
ApplePay last year,AndroidPay this year,next year WindowPay?? :neutral_face:
FlashbackUK
7 Oct 16#150
I believe they already have that in Amsterdam.
johnsmith1997
7 Oct 16#151
Better start looking for a NFC Windoze fone.:smile:
dealpickle
8 Oct 161#152
Ha! I'm no prophet, but I can tell you there's NO chance of that!
drummerdickens
10 Oct 16#153
Works every time for me without fail.
jackvdbuk
10 Oct 16#154
anyone using android pay with root? unable to use it this week with magisk and phh superuser which is annoying...
swtchick87
11 Oct 16#155
I called Natwest. They said they will.. in a few weeks. yep after this offer has ended!
vvkzaveri
13 Oct 16#156
Anyone can please help - how and when would the money spent on tfl be refunded? checked my credit card statement, I've being charged for the journey made on Monday..
nathankw
19 Oct 16#157
I've just checked on the T&Cs and it says the refund may take up to 28 days to process.
So yes - it will show as a charge initially (mine did too) but we have to trust that they'll refund.
leo0108uk
20 Oct 16#158
Yes I've got the refund today for the 10/10/16. Took about 7 working days to receive the refund.
I thought I would try Cafe Nero again as I was passing, they seemed to know about it this time.
As mentioned previously, no need to tap your card. They just add a discount on their systems and thus no charge.
dealpickle
7 Nov 16#161
Hey Davening, did you get your O2 Leon in the end? How is it? I've seen a few reviews complaining about the screen quality - what do you reckon?
davening
7 Nov 161#162
Yes, I did get the Leon.
The screen brightness comments I also saw isnt an issue to me, esp for 29pounds. Its possible I cant tell the difference with my DoogeeX5Pro.
But, Barclaycard isnt accepted by Android Pay. Ungh!!!
Although it is Android 6, adoptable storage isnt enabled but only portable storage. Nevertheless, you are still allowed to move some apps to sdcard.
However, being used to be able to stuff my mobile with apps and music, the Leon isnt that. Would use it as a glorified credit card.
Once I figure out the Revolut card, might try it with Android Pay but it vorks for some but not others.
For the time being its my new pet white elephant.
Have been looking at Bluboo Picasso nfc 4g at around 60-70pounds presale. But with my hand firmly on my wallet. It could be ideal except no fingerprint sensor otherwise almost like the DoogeeX5Pro but plus nfc.
Hope this helps.
dealpickle
9 Nov 16#163
Cheers for the reply mate, appreciate you taking the time.
Redgie999
18 Nov 16#164
Contacted MasterCard (after originally contacting my card issuer) regarding the Caffe Nero refund not coming through. Was told you only had to show your card, not actually pay with it. Looking at their terms and conditions this is indeed stated there, but I don't feel they made it particularly clear :disappointed:
MasterCard are sending me a free Neros voucher as compensation, which is nice of them, but I still feel the terms could have been a little clearer. Oh well, live and learn!
rapid111111
2 Dec 16#165
How did you contact Mastercard? I have an issue as well. But they've all been passing me back and forth
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The only difference is that they are offering free coffee this time too!
Useful info from Engadget ( https://www.engadget.com/2016/09/28/mastercard-android-pay-coffee-tube-london/ ) copied below:
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In a bid to boost mobile payments, Mastercard kicked-off a series of promotional events last year where it would pay for Londoners' travel if they used its cards to tap in and out of the Tube with Apple Pay. It must have been a success, because today the card giant confirmed that it will do the same for cardholders with Android devices, allowing you to travel on London's travel networks for free every Monday throughout October.
All you need to do is have a Mastercard loaded onto your Android Pay wallet and then use it to touch in and out, like you would an Oyster or contactless card. The offer is available on October 3rd, 10th, 17th and 24th and covers travel up to £30.50 across bus, Tube, tram, DLR, Tfl Rail, London Overground routes and most National Rail services in London. It even covers Emirates Air Line cable car and the MBNA Thames Clippers River Bus service.
If that wasn't enough, Mastercard has also teamed up with Caffè Nero to offer a free coffee or hot drink on those dates. For both offers, you will need to pay for your travel and drinks initially, but Mastercard will refund the fare (which could take up to 28 days).
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Full Terms & Conditions ( https://www.mastercard.co.uk/en-gb/consumers/features-benefits/mobile-payments/android-pay.html ) below:
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Eligibility
This promotion is open to holders of a Mastercard® card issued by a UK financial institution with an Android Pay compatible device (4.4 operating system or above and NFC enabled).
Under 18’s will require guardian/parental consent to take part.
Offer only valid when using a Mastercard card with Android Pay.
The offer will be available during a series of eight Promotional Periods on four consecutive Mondays commencing 03/10/2016:
Promotional Period 1 (“PP1”) – TfL Travel Offer – 04:30 on 03/10/2016 to 01:00 on 04/10/2016
Promotional Period 2 (“PP2”) – TfL Travel Offer – 04:30 on 10/10/2016 to 01:00 on 11/10/2016
Promotional Period 3 (“PP3”) – TfL Travel Offer – 04:30 on 17/10/2016 to 01:00 on 18/10/2016
Promotional Period 4 (“PP4”) – TfL Travel Offer – 04:30 on 24/10/2016 to 01:00 on 25/10/2016
Promotional Period 5 (“PP5”) – Caffè Nero Coffee Offer – 00:00 to 23:59 on 03/10/2016
Promotional Period 6 (“PP6”) – Caffè Nero Coffee Offer – 00:00 to 23:59 on 10/10/2016
Promotional Period 7 (“PP7”) – Caffè Nero Coffee Offer – 00:00 to 23:59 on 17/10/2016
Promotional Period 8 (“PP8”) – Caffè Nero Coffee Offer – 00:00 to 23:59 on 24/10/2016
Transport for London Travel Offer
To redeem the offer, cardholders must use their Mastercard card with Android Pay for pay as you go travel on bus, Tube, tram, DLR, London Overground, TfL Rail, Emirates Air Line, Thames Clippers River Bus, Gatwick Express and most National Rail services in London during PP1, PP2, PP3 and/or PP4.
The offer entitles cardholders to receive a refund against their pay as you go travel costs made with a Mastercard card with Android Pay on bus, Tube, tram, DLR, London Overground, TfL Rail, Emirates Air Line, Thames Clippers River Bus, Gatwick Express and most National Rail services in London to a maximum value of £30.50 per cardholder, per PP1, PP2, PP3 and PP4. The offer is as stated and nothing else is included.
The refund will take up to 28 working days from the end of each Promotional Period to appear in the Mastercard cardholder’s account. Please note that the refund will be posted to the cardholder’s account by their issuing bank and will be dependent on Mastercard having processed the relevant transactions. Any queries relating to delayed or missing refunds must be raised within 2 months of the close of Promotional Period 4.
All qualifying journeys must be paid for using a UK Mastercard card with Android Pay.
Cardholders who use Mastercard with Android Pay must have an active account, with the requisite funds to cover their TfL travel costs during PP1, PP2, PP3 and PP4.
To qualify for the offer, you must touch your Android Pay device on a yellow card reader at the start and end of each journey made on Tube, DLR, London Overground, TfL Rail, Gatwick Express, Emirates Air Line, Thames Clippers River Bus and most National Rail services in London (or any combination of these) and at intermediate points where required. On buses and trams you must only touch in at the start of your journey.
Offer is subject to the TfL Contactless Payment Cards Conditions of Use located at http://www.tfl.gov.uk/terms.
Caffè Nero Coffee Offer
This offer entitles Mastercard cardholders to one any-size Espresso, Caffè Latte, Cappuccino, Americano, Caffè Mocha, Flat White, Standard Hot Chocolate or Tea.
Offer excludes additional syrups, extras, speciality drinks, cold drinks and all other food or beverage items.
To redeem the offer, cardholders can visit any Caffè Nero shop or express outlet in England, Wales and Scotland during PP5, PP6, PP7 or PP8:
When ordering the free coffee only, cardholders must present their Mastercard loaded within Android Pay to the Barista when ordering.
When ordering the free coffee with additional items, cardholders must present their Mastercard loaded within Android Pay and then tap to pay for any additional items with their Mastercard with Android Pay.
Maximum 1 coffee per cardholder per PP5, PP6, PP7 and PP8.
Anyone using someone else’s Android Device or attempting to redeem the offer more than once during either PP5, PP6, PP7 and/or PP8 will be refused the free coffee.
Caffè Nero staff reserve the right to ask a customer to show the verifying email address within the Android Pay app, proof of ID and/or the relevant Mastercard card if they have any concerns regarding the authenticity of the customer.
Caffè Nero staff reserve the right to refuse the offer to any customer where there are reasonable grounds to believe there has been a breach of these terms and conditions.
General
Offers subject to normal availability.
Offers cannot be used in conjunction with any other discount, offer or promotion.
To the fullest extent possible in law, neither Mastercard nor agencies involved in this promotion will be liable for any loss or damage whatsoever caused by matters relating to this promotion.
By redeeming these offers, Mastercard cardholders will be deemed to be bound by and have accepted these terms and conditions.
Any question concerning the legal interpretation of the rules will be based on English law and the Courts of England and Wales will have exclusive jurisdiction.
In exceptional circumstances, the Promoter reserves the right to vary these terms and conditions or withdraw the offer at any stage.
Top comments
Android Pay will work perfectly every time, UNTIL you are at a gate with a thousand grumpy commuters behind you... then you present your phone to the reader, it will splutter, maybe vibrate, tease you with the prospect of escape... multiple tenths of a second pass and nothing happens. Time slows to a crawl. A thousand pairs of eyes bear down on you, accusing. You hope, against hope, that the magic is just taking longer than normal.... but no, the gate stands firm, unyielding, unwilling to accept your puny Android offering. You feel a shove in your back as you realise you have destroyed the natural flow of humanity - the river of people is not flowing, the beating heart of the city is having a coronary, and IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT.
You mumble "sorry" and step aside, broken and worthless.
I would never give google a credit card number and so a definite identity to associate with all the other personal information I can't stop them collecting.I don't want to tell google anything about what I buy with credit cards either.
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Ta OP.
Please could someone confirm that Revolut prepaid master cards are eligible to avail this offer.
Extract from master card website"Simple setup
Once you have the Android Pay app you can load your Mastercard credit, debit, small business and reloadable prepaid cards from participating issuers and use them with Android Pay. "
Not in London but What do I need to do to get a free coffee ?
Edit: Aah bugger. My phone to old to be compatible with Android Pay app.
So no free coffee :disappointed:
I've never had one before. Always had visa cards.
I would never give google a credit card number and so a definite identity to associate with all the other personal information I can't stop them collecting.I don't want to tell google anything about what I buy with credit cards either.
At the end of the day all Google can do it target adverts etc at you, they can't tip off the coffee police your drinking too many cappuccinos!
No need to tell Nero because it will be recorded by Mastercard that you have made a transaction with Caffe Nero for X amount.
so it is funny and it has absolutely nothing to do with race .... you both win, not a prize, just put your fist in the air and go yeah...!
Still haven't been on the White Elephant yet.:smile:
Is racist against Apples.
Saying that the only way I managed to get space on the phone to install Android Pay was by using Link2SD, so even if my phone was not rooted I would not be able to use it.
Europol warns of Android tap-and-go thefts
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37495102
So what's the worse that can happen?
Theft? Fraud? No problem I get the money back
Someone knows my address? No problem, they can send me gift or spam (I get enough from local pizza and agents- more free scrap for kids)
Someone uses my identity? No problem.. Could be an alibi when I need it ;-) I'll get money back anyway
Get caught on dating site? Teaches us a lesson not to cheat.
I upgraded to google 100mg per month about £3 per month with my credit card - I had so much spam over 15gig... I'm I bothered ? Not really... I have filter set so only ever look into one folder...
You can't beat it in this day and age, if on my death bed I'm worried which company's going to know I'm dying and what spam or fraud someone going to do... Only then id be worried
ie - they could steal your details by an existing method, then load them onto their own android pay app
...anyway, shame on TfL for making deals with Nero, notorious tax evader: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-3478241/Caff-Nero-paid-no-corporation-tax-financial-year-despite-profit-23-6m.html
Made use of it 1st time round when it was for Contactless cards.
No good last year cause don't have rubbish Apple.
Will be going again this year.:smiley:
Peeps,make sure your battery is in good condition and topped up before setting off.:smiley:
The update to KitKat was designed to deliver HCE capability to devices in order to integrate with closed-loop payment systems and offer contactless solution. IIRC the twist with your device is that it either contains a NFC controller which is incompatible or an older version that is not supported.
Does that mean using the MasterCard rather than Android Pay when ordering the free coffee?
Thanks :smiley:
I know I'm going to tweet them, and say I'm cancelling until they get with the 21st century.
If ordering anything else, "tap to pay for any additional items with their Mastercard with Android Pay"
SD
general terms and condition number 21 from MasterCard, I'm afraid.
Anyone presented their phone to the barista yet to see what they did with it?
Ahhh I see, 28 day rebate.
It seems if you need Mastercard, you need apply for Credit Cards.
TFL one is straight forward... use MasterCard on Android Pay to tap in/out and within 28 days you get a refund to your account for the journey cost.
Caffè Nero seems to be a case of show your Android Pay app to the Barista with a Mastercard loaded on the screen and they give you a free coffee. It only says to pay for "additional items" with Android Pay and doesn't mention anything about a refund to your MasterCard account. This suggests that it is a case of show the app on your screen to get the coffee but not to pay for it with the app! An earlier comment and my hunch is that this will be difficult due to staff not being made aware of the offer.
Anyone managed to show the app and staff knew about it?
In the end they gave up, and stamped up a new loyalty card to make the 'payment'.
Poor management/comms from Caffe Nero IMO
No free coffee. :disappointed:
They will ask for a code to pay for the coffee like the O2 code offers. Show them the info online if necessary but they should have an internal memo from a head office. There is an internal new code for MasterCard they can use on their till. Make sure you show the MasterCard Car in the Android app to qualify.
Just be friendly and show them the site if necessary and this should be all you need for your free coffee. Enjoy!
http://newsroom.mastercard.com/eu/press-releases/free-coffee-and-travel-on-mondays-in-october-with-mastercard/
I can confirm this works, just got a large cappuccino in Edinburgh without saying a word to the staff. Tapped my phone as I usually do, it accepted it but doesn't register a charge (you can see this on the mini-statement, there's no item for the transaction).
any questions, feel free to ask ill try and help.
awesome idea, really like the system and possibilities.
Can I use the Android Pay with the same card on 2 devices? Maybe I am going to try another phone.
TFL works as expected. Use it on just about any form of London transport. End of the day. TFL will tot it all up like they always do for contactless. A couple of weeks later it will all be refunded to your MasterCard. Result!!! as a normal working day costs me more than a tenner and this offer allows me to use various modes of transport to get around. No more walking when I can take a free bus.
The Cafe Nero deal is unclear. I got caught. as others say. You do not tap your phone. You just wave your phone at the staff muttering "MasterCard offer". They will press a button on the till and it will be free. most staff won't have a clue but someone will eventually. Will obviously sort itself next week when all the staff read the memo and manager take notice of all be people using android pay today.
But why is an android pay promotion not actually using android pay? Sounds like a badly prepared IT department at Nero or MasterCard. Tut tut.
I wonder how much money they made by people buying coffee at £2.70 and zapping their phones.
The advert in the metro makes out like you have to tap. Which you do on tFL.
Shame also on MasterCard on not having proper feedback mechanism advertised. O2 at least have a Twitter feed which they do respond to about the 02 priority offers which screw up like the M&S cake offer. And Amex offers have a hotline which quickly processes refund on their offers if they go wrong. Customer service makes happy punters.
Not sure who to call to resolve it, Mastercard told me call bank, bank told me call TFL. Let's see who TFL will tell me to call now...
Android Pay will work perfectly every time, UNTIL you are at a gate with a thousand grumpy commuters behind you... then you present your phone to the reader, it will splutter, maybe vibrate, tease you with the prospect of escape... multiple tenths of a second pass and nothing happens. Time slows to a crawl. A thousand pairs of eyes bear down on you, accusing. You hope, against hope, that the magic is just taking longer than normal.... but no, the gate stands firm, unyielding, unwilling to accept your puny Android offering. You feel a shove in your back as you realise you have destroyed the natural flow of humanity - the river of people is not flowing, the beating heart of the city is having a coronary, and IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT.
You mumble "sorry" and step aside, broken and worthless.
The guy at the till had no idea about the offer.
Then I bought something else to eat with some change, to avoid breaking the freebie part.
Not even gonna bother trying next Monday. Back to Costas as usual.
My experience of using AndroidPay:
I tried at 1st on Aeroplane mode and it said you need a signal for Android Pay to work.
(I'm thinking how are you suppose to pay when there is no/poor signal ie.underground,
inside shopping centre etc.)
On exit at New Malden station,I had to try about 10 times before the damn thing worked.
I was worried if I didn't touch out I would be charged the penalty fare so thankfully it
eventually worked.
I also noticed that there is a slight delay (ie.a bit slower) compared with using my
usual Nationwide contactless card.
And so to answer your question,yes it is a bit rubbish,as on more than one occasion I had to try a few times before the transaction went through,whereas my usual Nationwide contactless does it straight away.
Tip: Bring a contactless card with you in case damn thing no work!!
Since you didn't go through AndroidPay,they might charge you for Thames clipper journey.:neutral_face:
Yesterday, found a nicer Voda store and am going to try for the Leon online delivering to that store and get topup as credit instead.
LG Leon has Android 6 update too.
Huge thanks for all the info, I really appreciate it. You certainly know a lot more about all this than I do!
Thanks for confirming I have a wonky hukd setup.
Will be cheaper and can always re-trade it after the tfl offer has finished.
So yes - it will show as a charge initially (mine did too) but we have to trust that they'll refund.
As mentioned previously, no need to tap your card. They just add a discount on their systems and thus no charge.
The screen brightness comments I also saw isnt an issue to me, esp for 29pounds. Its possible I cant tell the difference with my DoogeeX5Pro.
But, Barclaycard isnt accepted by Android Pay. Ungh!!!
Although it is Android 6, adoptable storage isnt enabled but only portable storage. Nevertheless, you are still allowed to move some apps to sdcard.
However, being used to be able to stuff my mobile with apps and music, the Leon isnt that. Would use it as a glorified credit card.
Once I figure out the Revolut card, might try it with Android Pay but it vorks for some but not others.
For the time being its my new pet white elephant.
Have been looking at Bluboo Picasso nfc 4g at around 60-70pounds presale. But with my hand firmly on my wallet. It could be ideal except no fingerprint sensor otherwise almost like the DoogeeX5Pro but plus nfc.
Hope this helps.
MasterCard are sending me a free Neros voucher as compensation, which is nice of them, but I still feel the terms could have been a little clearer. Oh well, live and learn!