need to burn your neighbours cataracts out or just light up your whole garden or even bring in aircraft?
super cheap 50w led with PIR
We have fully sold out already, please expire - we wont be getting any more of these in at this price.
We do have a couple of orders for this to cancel (very sorry) - this cleared all the stock in a morning!
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barneyonion
27 Sep 165#5
Very cheap for a 50w, I have installed a 30w version of these and it let water in till it filled up with water and shorted out the LED chip. Had to put in a new chip and then sealed it up with bathroom sealant and it has worked since. Would recommend using a tube of sealant during install between the glass front and the area that reflects out the light to avoid water getting in. Also a lot of these (not sure about the pro elec ones) don't come with an earth so technically they would need a small earth bolt and connection made to meet uk standards.
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stesavingexpert
27 Sep 16#1
Thanks OP worth a punt at that price. Might want to add that there are no additional delivery charges
Inquisitor
27 Sep 16#2
So going to get cancelled.. oh well...
Thanks for heads up anyway OP :smiley:
cruisecars to Inquisitor
27 Sep 161#3
Why will it get cancelled its there normal price...
BigBuds
27 Sep 16#4
Cheers op.
barneyonion
27 Sep 165#5
Very cheap for a 50w, I have installed a 30w version of these and it let water in till it filled up with water and shorted out the LED chip. Had to put in a new chip and then sealed it up with bathroom sealant and it has worked since. Would recommend using a tube of sealant during install between the glass front and the area that reflects out the light to avoid water getting in. Also a lot of these (not sure about the pro elec ones) don't come with an earth so technically they would need a small earth bolt and connection made to meet uk standards.
Publix to barneyonion
27 Sep 161#6
Applying sealant is very good advice; the same thing happened to me. The Motion Sensor became water logged and stopped working.
SouthAfrican to barneyonion
28 Sep 16#50
Any chance you can provide a few pictures or a step by step guide on how to do this? How does one take it apart to apply the sealant? Does one need to put sealant around the area where the cable exists the case or is there a grommet there that provides adequate protection against the elements? Does one need to seal the PIR around the edges to prevent water ingress? Sorry for all the question but I am sure it will help others. Thanks in advance
Sadly many of these Led Floodlights are like this one only rated at IP44 which you could use in a outside building or covered area. In most gardens you would need at least a rating of IP65.
Careful. I have 3 of these, paid around the same. The 50w ones have a bit of a design flaw. The plastic mount for the PIR is the same length on all sizes of lamp, but the 50w has such a big lens, the PIR at best is pointing down 30 degrees. As such, these needed to be mounted very high indeed, minimum 5m I'd say. The first one I mounted at a height of 2.5m, and the PIR had a range of only 4m, as PIR was looking down too much, even when as high as it would go.
MisterSkinflint
27 Sep 161#10
Bought one of these last winter. It's fantastic with a very white light. I'd buy another if I had anywhere to put it.
morrig to MisterSkinflint
27 Sep 162#27
Are you sure you can't find a place,maybe where the sun don't shine?
One rule and one rule only here when buying something of this nature...
Buy cheap, buy twice!
Total false economy. These are not built to last. I have been to a lot of factories in China where these are made and I have also broken down a large number of these from UK suppliers. They are cheap and nasty and generally do not confirm to basic standards required to be sold in the UK.
patrick_000 to billyoftheknight
27 Sep 16#15
So what brands do you recommend? Many companies sell unbranded lights or lights with made up brand names so it's difficult to know what's good.
dach to billyoftheknight
27 Sep 162#19
Followed your advice and got two of them :-)
Joking aside, these are fantastic for the price. Anyone with basic electricity knowledge can add sealant to ensure they last longer and don't short. The height these are installed at means that no kids will get their hands on them. CPC couldn't sell them if they didn't conform to basic standards required to be sold in the UK.
Publix
27 Sep 16#16
Thanks for that very useful link to IPnn.
I replaced my waterlogged PIR motion sensor light with this IP65 80W.
Love the light; hope it survives the winter. click here
OperateOnMe
27 Sep 161#17
wow, this is very cheap, saw these a couple of years ago for over £100 !
ellie27
27 Sep 16#18
Looking for quite a few PIR lights, 2 for out front of house, 2 at back. Can anyone recommend anthing? No idea what wattage I would/should use or whether LED or not. Thanks!
chicker
27 Sep 16#20
Good luck with that one Very bad reviews op probably last longer with a bit of sealant
Jaybeam
27 Sep 16#21
Site under maintenance?
tyflux
27 Sep 16#22
I like the Biard LED units. I've got one over 2 years old. zero issues.
shortchanged
27 Sep 161#23
I can't really understand why people are saying these are going to be faulty, if it develops a fault simply return it, CPC are great I have returned things before with no issues with credit given straight away
pibpob to shortchanged
28 Sep 161#48
They don't last, because they have poor weatherproofing, so they will fail pretty quickly. And it's not just a case of returning it, it's a case of getting up a ladder, disconnecting it, removing it from the wall and then doing all of that in reverse again when the new one arrives. I know which I'd rather have: a lamp that cost a bit more and didn't require me to that periodically.
tfish
27 Sep 16#24
LOL some people...
Geokinkladze
27 Sep 16#25
Pro Elec stuff as sold by CPC conforms to Uk standards. I don't know the IP rating on this light (their site is down ATM) but if Pro Elec were shipping CPC lights with metal bodies that were not earthed CPC's engineers would have a fit.
czechoslovakia to Geokinkladze
28 Sep 16#38
I can confirm to all that, unlike many, this model does have an earth wire, and it was actually bolted to the body. Why these all come with just 20cm of flex though is beyond me...
MrFizzy to Geokinkladze
1 Oct 16#55
Nah, doubt they'd have a fit, but they might be shocked :laughing:
happydeals
27 Sep 16#26
Thanks
chickentikkaman
28 Sep 16#28
Did you manage to fix it after water got into the motion sensor? I think I've got the same problem, is it easy to dismantle and then seal up again?
Publix
28 Sep 16#29
I dried it out, but the PIR circuit would not work. The light still worked, but the motion sensor did not.
As it was primarily there to security light the back garden, I had to dump it and have replaced it with this IP65 80Watt
hcc27
28 Sep 16#30
Yeah I know, there vs their.
ribs1
28 Sep 16#31
I had to dump it and have replaced it with thisIP65 80Watt[/quote]
Hardly a decision worth shouting about given the review comments on Amazon for this light. You may as well have hung your £25.73 in cash on a hook and set fire to it.... better value for money!
WheresMeNuts
28 Sep 161#32
Do these lights reflect heat well with tinfoil, as I need my plants to grow quicker.
I'm just asking a question.............
loofer to WheresMeNuts
28 Sep 16#44
for a friend of course
mxer450 to WheresMeNuts
28 Sep 162#49
Very good of you to be a responsible energy green minded grower..:smile:
cbrpaul
28 Sep 16#33
Bloody world gone LED mad,,,, just had had my street lighting changed to LED,LED lamp post right outside my house, my bedroom is now illuminated like a dam football stadium , thanks council to55ers !!
fubar888 to cbrpaul
28 Sep 161#53
Request that they fit a shield to block light towards your house, they replaced all our streetlights with leds and fitted half blacked out glass cowls where the light would shine into properties.
getdave47
28 Sep 16#34
JCC make excellent floodlights, I have installed and supplied nigh on a 100 of them in the last 4 years, no problems so far
carthur
28 Sep 161#35
It is IP44 rated so that's me out.
tazeembi to carthur
28 Sep 16#40
Yup need IP65 for outside, unless it's dry all year round.
kwh
28 Sep 16#36
Roughly - How much would it cost to get an electrician to fit one of these?
joshtbh to kwh
28 Sep 161#39
I had one fitted once up high on my house and was about £60 in the Midlands, but there was already electricity going up there to a previous light.
I bought the 30W one from LED Hut and was amazed at the brightness and thought pretty highly of the quality of the build, can't speak for the ones listed.
davej1710
28 Sep 16#37
Great, thanks op
fuiseog
28 Sep 16#41
Really useful guide to outdoor electrics, thank you.
cpctweet
28 Sep 16#42
We have fully sold out already, please expire - we wont be getting any more of these in at this price.
We do have a couple of orders for this to cancel (very sorry) - this cleared all the stock in a morning!
bobby-gg
28 Sep 16#43
Well mine have just been delivered, so certainly cannot complain about cpc service!
As for the build quality, I've just stripped it down and found a nice silicone gasket between the body and the glass, and a rubber gasket to the electrical enclosure, the led has plenty of heatsink compound and is well bolted down to the body and the led driver is of a suitable size, yes, the pir looks poor in comparison with the rest of the light but IP44 is perfectly adequate for fitting outside, which I'll be doing, but converting mine into switch controlled as I don't need mine on a pir
For £15.55 each I'm certainly not complaining
pibpob
28 Sep 16#45
Not if they're double insulated.
dad460
28 Sep 16#46
Mine came today, I didn't realise how large they are, I think that they would look a bit out of place over my patio doors!
I am very impressed by the quick delivery, especially as it was free..
pibpob
28 Sep 162#47
Well done - you've fallen for CPC's marketing tactics :wink:
MisterSkinflint
28 Sep 16#51
Or in your life....
barneyonion
28 Sep 16#52
Its simple enough really. There are four screws on the front which when removed allow you to remove the face of the light including the glass bit, a rubber seal and a metal frame. Mine leaked past this part so i put sealant around the edge of that part then put it back together with the 4 screws and then applied more sealant to the outside edge.
I didnt seal the pir personally but it would also be a good idea to do this.
chickentikkaman
29 Sep 16#54
Gentlemen! Please!..........
Here, look at these, should help....
pibpob
1 Oct 161#56
Because copper is expensive and you want to buy cheap things.
Opening post
super cheap 50w led with PIR
We have fully sold out already, please expire - we wont be getting any more of these in at this price.
We do have a couple of orders for this to cancel (very sorry) - this cleared all the stock in a morning!
- cpctweet
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Thanks for heads up anyway OP :smiley:
Gone for it though :smiley:
This site is quit helpful. https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technical/DataSheets/IPNumbers.htm
http://www.homebase.co.uk/en/static/how-to-install-outdoor-lighting-and-security-lights
Buy cheap, buy twice!
Total false economy. These are not built to last. I have been to a lot of factories in China where these are made and I have also broken down a large number of these from UK suppliers. They are cheap and nasty and generally do not confirm to basic standards required to be sold in the UK.
Joking aside, these are fantastic for the price. Anyone with basic electricity knowledge can add sealant to ensure they last longer and don't short. The height these are installed at means that no kids will get their hands on them. CPC couldn't sell them if they didn't conform to basic standards required to be sold in the UK.
I replaced my waterlogged PIR motion sensor light with this IP65 80W.
Love the light; hope it survives the winter.
click here
As it was primarily there to security light the back garden, I had to dump it and have replaced it with this
IP65 80Watt
Hardly a decision worth shouting about given the review comments on Amazon for this light. You may as well have hung your £25.73 in cash on a hook and set fire to it.... better value for money!
I'm just asking a question.............
I bought the 30W one from LED Hut and was amazed at the brightness and thought pretty highly of the quality of the build, can't speak for the ones listed.
We do have a couple of orders for this to cancel (very sorry) - this cleared all the stock in a morning!
As for the build quality, I've just stripped it down and found a nice silicone gasket between the body and the glass, and a rubber gasket to the electrical enclosure, the led has plenty of heatsink compound and is well bolted down to the body and the led driver is of a suitable size, yes, the pir looks poor in comparison with the rest of the light but IP44 is perfectly adequate for fitting outside, which I'll be doing, but converting mine into switch controlled as I don't need mine on a pir
For £15.55 each I'm certainly not complaining
I am very impressed by the quick delivery, especially as it was free..
I didnt seal the pir personally but it would also be a good idea to do this.
Here, look at these, should help....