if moths love light so much why don't they come out during the daytime?

Be very careful of Ebay ones, may dont have the earth lead attached to the casing internally so are a risk of electrocution , at least the Screwfix ones will be electrically sound

They also lie about the wattage as well

Saw some 12.5w ones in Lidl today £9.99 with 3yr warranty

Yeah, I had two of them up at a height of around 20 feet (on each gable end of the house) and it wasn't much fun trying to sort that out.

I'd already fitted 3 halogen units (plus bulb changes) over the period of 6 years since the house was built too!
Thought that LED's would be the answer to my problems....

So far, the 10w units I bought from Screwfix appear to be very good and they at least have a 2 year warranty..

Id be pretty annoyed as its at least an hours work to refit one. I guess if it goes ill get one from the shop so can take it back.

I hope for you they keep working of course but the failure rates are very high in general - was really disappointing when both of them failed during the same week...

Ah hope not mate :disappointed:

CPC have that light under two codes differnt prices Search finds the more expensive one!

http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-elec/jf01c-p1w10-f/led-floodlight-10w/dp/LA05792?ost=jf01c-p1w10-f&selectedCategoryId=&categoryNameResp=All%2BCategories&searchView=table&iscrfnonsku=false

The lamps are sold by the 2,3.4.5.6.7,10,20 etc.
Yes the leads are very short (though this seems to be true for a lot of this type of lamp) but they're being used in a workshop, so I just need a regular junction box (<£1) for each lamp.
Delivery took around 1 week.

Am I doing something wrong? That link says they are £17.55 for 4 (plus delivery)

Sold by: Oshide Technology and Trade
FLAT/RM 1502(89) EASEY COMMERCIAL BUILDING
253-261 HENNESSY ROAD WANCHAI
HK
HK
999077
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Hence why they quote up to a month delivery. Hmmm... :man:

Edit: Did you read the reviews? Apparently very short fly leads on those lamps with no easy way to replace them. You probably need a submarine connector (get them from any reliable electrical supplier for about £8 each) so you extend the fly lead safely ... but at £8 each extra per lamp, they don't seem so cheap any longer.

These are very cheap:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00YCDZEXO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I bought 6 of them recently and think they're pretty good value.
2 for £8.81 plus £2 delivery. Larger pack sizes available for even better value.

how easy is it to fit a PIR to these and should there be anything specific should look for?

I use one of these indoors. Put it on the floor facing upwards then go to poundland for an expanding laundry basket, the type which packs into a flat circle but then springs into a sort of barrel shape. Looks quite classy lamp for less than tenner.

Yeah, buy one of these and leave it on all night like my neighbour does - it's like a searchlight onto the front of my house! :confused:

I can confirm the earthing issue with cheap eBay lights. I bought one and it came with a stupidly short cable (about 6 inches) which I had to replace. When I opened it up I found the earth wire was not connected. Seller couldn't give a toss - offered me a £2 refund if I removed my negative feedback.

They do have a earth lead , but they are not connected internally !

http://www.briandorey.com/post/Dangerous-LED-Outdoor-Floodlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbt2ojkXPuo

very nice

Can't find any on ebay 50W with PIR for £14, most are £20-30 - do you have a link to those you bought ?

10W just doesn't cut the mustard

Can I use it in the garden without a shed? Is it waterproof please?

​Just wait a few weeks or a month or two... then it'll stop working... like mine, and my friends... these 10w are so much better made but the light output from the eBay LEDs was amazing.... while they lasted :disappointed:

All are LED's and perfect quality. It does have the proper Earth lead.
My builder was quite impressed with the lights, he ordered a few for himself.

​only 2480 now
witness the power of a HUKD mention

Avail from CPC for £6.50+VAT (£7.80) with free delivery. http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-elec/jf01c-p1w10-f/led-floodlight-10w/dp/LA0579207?ost=LA0579207&selectedCategoryId=&categoryNameResp=All%2BCategories&searchView=table&iscrfnonsku=false

2490 in stock

Bought these for a little more from a previous post a month back! Very good light and easy to fit and set up :laughing:

Not LED though...

Be very careful of Ebay ones, may dont have the earth lead attached to the casing internally so are a risk of electrocution , at least the Screwfix ones will be electrically sound

They also lie about the wattage as well

if moths love light so much why don't they come out during the daytime?

I've got a couple of the 10W pirs and want some more but searched over the weekend and none around Leeds.
Just trying to get last couple of these. Who else sells them?

got excited there ... Just what I was looking for until noted no sensor ... damn3

Sorted last 2 ordered for me now fit pir for control.

You can go back to using candles.

plus one heat for making the moths happy!
cheers.

Yes, I've voted HOT. HOT. HOT too for the moths (as they won't get hot themselves with this cool LED :smiley:)