What an amazing time we live in when we can buy a GPU with a similar performance as a 2 year old GPU (970) for about the same cost!

Good. SLI on mid series cards is just a bad idea.

You can overclock a 970 to match 1060 performance. But it's a piece of cake to overclock 1060 too and there, 970 can't keep up. Plus you get an extra two gigs of RAM.

Oh yeah, and the value of UK money has collapsed in the meantime. The real comparison here is in USD, where GTX 970 launched at $330 and GTX 1060 is $249 with extra performance and more RAM.

Lol i was thinking that...

Also the full point of sli was to sli weaker cards... sli wasnt made for the rich to sli the top tier cards. The top tier doesnt need sli...

So much fail in this thread.

People who think just because the 1070 beats previous gen titan its okay to cost 100 quid more than the 970 release needs to slap themselves...

No its not brexit either, its nvidia being greedier than ever and due to amd failing again.

The 1070 should be 270-300 max.

Vote with your wallet and dont pay it thats the only way to change these stupid prices. Look at all them early titan buyers, they hate themselves now the 780 beat the first titan ffs lol...

Can get better for little or no more hard earned pennies.

Zotac Mini ITX GTX 1060 is 229.99 @ Scan too (preorder)

no SLI

Zotac at ebuyer. £232
​http://m.ebuyer.com/752926

I'm sure there's others else where. But it all depends on what you want/what's important to you. Some buy for looks, some buy for warranty, some buy for clock speeds, others are brand loyal. What's your poison ?

Clock speeds are all the same, its just a silicon lottery, buying a pre 'OC' card this generation over the same version but stock is meh, due to GPU boost and the way the cards clock anyway etc. Even coolers come down to a few degrees difference between coolers (stock fan curves) and fans are pretty much all quiet on the 10 series cards.

1060 its pretty much do you want a small or a big cooler.

Whats the advantage to getting highly binned AIBs with either the rx480 or gtx 1060, will it give you better chance of OCing or not?

Honestly I can't tell you, you would have to find out the specific criteria the companies are binning on and what companies are doing binning. Usually achieving the clock they want, whilst fulfilling the tempature and voltage targets. So you are more likely to get a better OC from a binned chip I suppose in that sense.

You are better looking for first hand experiences with the exact model you want. All i can say is I have a Palit Game Rock 1070 and I have clocked it past the GameRock Premium Edition without effort, Though maybe I am lucky.

Should I buy rx 480 or gtx 1060?

But when I go to ebuyer and search for one even though its made by other companies, it looks just like that.

What an amazing time we live in when we can buy a GPU with a similar performance as a 2 year old GPU (970) for about the same cost!

Here is the one im wanting to buy but would you say this is a reference version? http://www.ebuyer.com/750213-msi-radeon-rx-480-8gb-gddr5-hdmi-3-x-displayport-pci-e-graphics-rx-480-8g

Yes it is

Anything that looks even remotely similar to this is a reference card. :smiley:

Yes, that is a reference board supplied by AMD to MSI. I wouldn't recommend it.

I got my 970 for under £250 new 2 years ago, is it really too much to expect the latest GPU's to be quite a bit faster than a 2 year old GPU? So it's got more ram, big deal, I play Doom @ 1080p and it looks amazing, can't see how a extra 2GB on cards at this level (1080p) will make that much difference.

Personally If I upgrade I wouldn't go lower than a 1070 and wouldn't pay more than £350 and I'd only do that if I could get a 1440p GSync IPS monitor with no quality control issues for under £500 (which I can't!)

Looks like I'll be keeping my 970 and gaming at 1080p for a while longer!

Can't speak for any of the other cards, but the G1 version runs GTA V on max settings @ 1440 no problem. Not even attempted to overclock it yet either, and it's silent. Such a massive upgrade from my overclocked 960 SSC.

What's wrong with a reference RX 480? They fixed the power draw issues didn't they?

They fixed that yes but no dvi, that's a deal breaker for me and it's noisy and runs hot, no over clocking.

for an extra few quids you get a model with a custom cooler. Cold from me.

I know this question has been asked loads of times before but is it better to buy a single GTX 1060 now and add another later when Directx 12 multi GPU games become more of the norm or pay the extra for a GTX 1070 ?

I don't mean SLI as there's no connection for it but Multi-display Adapter or Linked Display Adapter. Pretty sure that will be the way these games will be heading.

99% of people clicking on this dealn won't be interested in that.

For the extra 3fps you squeeze out of it? :smiley:

Great price, it's with the extra money and time to get the 1070 though, it will have serious performance gains over the 1060.

I always found the "60" card in each range was always the bare minimum you'd want for gaming.

Still a great price, so heat from me! nice!

I prefer the 1060 to the 480, esp for htpc use. Lower power, less heat and supports moonlight streaming to my android phone / 3d headset via trinus. It's crap on AMD due to lag.

But you are comparing cards from different tiers? And two years ago the great unwashed hadn't voted for Brexit.I can tell you the £ has collapsed since then. After the initial inflated prices( would usually be expected to drop) there is little chance of that now...

There is no real xx70 tier card anymore. The 1070 is that in name only. The price never reflected the xx70 slot in the lineup. Look at the huge price gap between the 1060 and 1070.
Maybe they want to slot a 1060ti in there?

IRONICALLY us PC gamers will quite happily spend 230 quid on a graphics card just to play a small selection of games. I want to upgrade just for BF1, I could get a console for that price and play dozens of games. Damn you PC master race, membership is not cheap.

Edit. Watch the xfiles the other day from mid 1990s and the nerds were freaking out about 64bit encryption being future proof.

SLI on anything is just a bad idea.

There is no real xx70 tier card anymore. The 1070 is that in name only. The price never reflected the xx70 slot in the lineup. Look at the huge price gap between the 1060 and 1070.
Maybe they want to slot a 1060ti in there?[/quote

So this sentence is nonsence then,"The GTX 1070 is the direct replacement for the GTX 970".
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforce-gtx-1070-specifications,news-53001.html

Or this one,"just six weeks ago, the notion that Nvidia's GTX 970 replacemen"?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-review

And the point about the idiots **** up our economy meaning the £ has collapsed stil doesn't register with you? You can't argue with that surely....

Ahh, Ok thanks

my 660 FTW is still doing a great job,

Depends what you consider a direct replacement. Nvidia always said the 1070 would be £50 more than the 970 so there's no direct replacement as far as price point goes but there is in terms of their line up and branding.

I've been using SLI for years, you just need to go into it with your eyes open and don't expect perfect scaling. Scaling is generally better at higher resolutions but if the GPUs are sitting there underutilised it's often because of a CPU bottleneck. In those cases you just need to tweak the settings, like enable a higher level of AA or use supersampling, as that shifts the load back onto the GPU.

Yes, yes, you are smarter than 52% of the population congratulations :confused:, you are a genius play boy millionaire no doubt.

The 1070 is the replacement for the 970, it fits the 70 slot exactly compared to the 80.

The 970 launhed for ~$330, the MSRP of the 1070 is $370, considering inflation and the massive power increase between the 970 and 1070 its perfectly reasonable. Never before has a 70 card come out that has trashed the previous generations flagship.. No I dont mean the 980ti, I'm talking Titan. So actually its amazing value for money.

The super inflated prices at the moment are just that l, super inflated. If people want a 1070 but aren't willing to pay the premium, they need to wait till there is no longer a shortage of chips and everyone who will pay a premium has. That's life.

I'm waiting for a couple of more years and sticking with my 970, it's fine for 1080P gaming.No point in upgrading till the next generation of cards can run 4k smoothly at this price point....oh, and I buy a 4k monitor.

I should imagine this 1060 card will make lots of noise too when you push it,the fan is tiny.

I'd very much like to meet the scrub who watercools a 1060...

Lol i was thinking that...

Also the full point of sli was to sli weaker cards... sli wasnt made for the rich to sli the top tier cards. The top tier doesnt need sli...

So much fail in this thread.

People who think just because the 1070 beats previous gen titan its okay to cost 100 quid more than the 970 release needs to slap themselves...

No its not brexit either, its nvidia being greedier than ever and due to amd failing again.

The 1070 should be 270-300 max.

Vote with your wallet and dont pay it thats the only way to change these stupid prices. Look at all them early titan buyers, they hate themselves now the 780 beat the first titan ffs lol...

I agree with most of that. nVidia are only doing this crap because people allow them to. it's ridiculous releasing a Titan only for it to be trashed by a "mid range" card a year later and losing 80% of its value.

I think AMD did not fail. it's just people look at the benchmarks of now and don't think for the future of dx12 and Vulkan. just look at AMDs past cards. The fact is that AMD cards last a lot longer than nvidia cards. They are built for the future.

Worth upgrading from 280x? I use it for 1080p gaming

Made an account just to let you guys know that I got the palit dual gtx 1060(heard good things about this model, and it is brilliant runs cool and quiet) for £230 pound via flubit elite trial(let's you use ebuyer to get a better price). Dunno what everyone thinks of flubit but worked out well for me fast delivery too. Would recommend doing the same with whatever card your interested in see what price it gives ya, obviously most aftermarket gtx 1060s will be better than refference especially if you pay reference price :smiley:

now £235.99