I got one recently and am very happy with it, I think a lot of the bad reviews are from when it first came out and had a few problems which have been fixed with updates.
I'd say go for it if you can afford one.

I would recommend you upgrade to a Psion 3.

If you have a child in nursery and get childcare vouchers through Edenred (which I do) you can also purchase Currys vouchers for 6.5% discount from the Edenred website.

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That could take years?

Same here, with cashback paid on full price before student discount, so a combined £140 discount.

7.35% TCB through PC World too!

Deal is back on.

Cashback validated today on top of student discount :-)

No never. I spoke to Microsoft afterwards and they had to manually get one organised. I have since returned the Surface though as it was faulty - I was convinced it was a refurb / return hence the older warranty.

Did you get your issue sorted out? Did you ever get your welcome code yet? Seen comments mentioning 72 hours but mine is beyond that and still never got the email. Checked the junk folder and everything.

Sorry for such a late reply. Never got an notification and only just came across your comment now. I bought mine in store. No it wasn't in stock, they only had that £849 in store. They had to order it for me and which took them 10 days to receive it into their store. Then I had to collect it myself when it was ready for pick up. Sadly they wouldn't do free delivery unless you buy it online.

Expired

I'll second that .. it's a waste of time that, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm (it's a shame really?), lol.

I tend to find that TopCashBack does better in that regard here .....

Price has gone up to £769.00

It may be time to expire the deal :confused:

Hello, can you explain this a bit further? I mean, to get the x4, you need to purchase the restaurant voucher gift cards no? and if so, why would currys accept that? i thought they only accepted currys giftcards. Reply soon if you can, thanks.

Im afraid that you have been misquoted. ​In the terms and conditions it states: 'This offer is open to employees of Dixons Carphone and may be used in conjunction with colleague discount but not with any other offer.'

The CS of Currys is really poor, so I doubt anything they say can be trusted.

I rest my case :wink:

You have been misquoted, I have an email reply and a chat transcript confirming both discounts can be used.

CSUP3426278CR, RE: Enquiry about surface4 pro
Currys Customer Services
Sat 27/08, 12:20You
The service available at Currys and PC World

Dear XXXXXXXXX,

Thank you for your email dated 26th August 2016.

I am happy to advise that you can use the Studentbeans discount in store, whilst still claiming the cashback via claim form.

I trust this information helps.

Kind regards,

Zoe Caulfield
The KNOWHOW™ Team

----- Original Message -----


Hi Currys,


I would like to enquire about the offer on the Microsoft Surface Pro 4.
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/microsoft-surface-pro-4-128-gb-10139733-pdt.html

If I use the studentbeans 10% discount to buy the tablet, can I also still claim the Curry's 10% discount aswell [completed by online form]?

Kind regards,

XXXXXXXXXX

Ah well, even without the extra cashback its a decent deal.

​Spoke to the customer services who stated that cashback cant be used if any other discount is used. Also says this in the terms and conditions Im afraid. That is why I didnt want to buy.

Nice machine. Just a shame that the (necessary) type cover is another £100.....

Purchased with 10% StudentBeans discount and assured by staff that their 10% cashback would go through fine. Also used Quidco (1% or £6.29) and quadrouple Nectar points (around £12). So hopefully around £547 final price :sunglasses:

​yes

I dont need to research, I own them all because I'm crap with money. I use the Note more than the rest because for me the experience is just better.

200GB! How much did you pay for this?

Can anybody tell me if these are good for mid level gaming? Older games i mean

For example: GTA San Andreas, Need For Speed Underground 2, C&C Generals etc

Going on a long haul flight and i'm seriously tempted if it will handle games

Fair enough, but that all sounds a bit superflous? most of that isn't basic note taking really is it?

When i want to make notes, i don't care about any of that. Just want to jot something down and find it again later.

Handwriting is just better, you have to try it and compare it, the zoom function just works so simply. PDF Annotation and integration with Dropbox. The word processing tools are excellent. Synchronised cloud backup, organisation and sharing of material. Linked Audio recording where you can tap a word to hear your linked audio recording. They seem to have thought of everything. The workflow is just brilliant. There's always exceptions but I can't see anything on the Windows platform that is as complete for note taking.

TL;DR

I gave my opinion why the iPad Pro is better for ONE thing which is note taking, the Surface Pro 4 is better at a lot of other things.

Fair enough, but please answer the original question :smiley: - i cannot be bothered to follow links into other threads, particularly when it's just other peoples opinions. we wanted your opinion :P

Btw if its just the pencil, sorry but as already mentioned, great for drawing but no better than the surface pen for notes

Please refer to post #290 where I'd revised the post but not before he replied to me. You'll see I understood this and I'm fully aware of the irony of my original post :smiley:

I'd revised my post but not before you'd replied to it, please refer back to the edited post #290 in this thread.

Well, this is amusing

Clearly you cannot read either then? since the person you replied to and quoted was referring to and listing out just note applications, where did they say you claimed it was better for everything???

Thanks for taking the time to clear the video editing question up for me MA3STRO, I think I may hold fire ss I can only afford this I5 version.

Yes I can read, you said: And I asked how is it better. I never insinuated you claimed the iPad was better at everything, I made a question in direct response to your statement. You've then responded as though I asked a completely different question with your knickers in a twist :smiley:

I'm honestly curious what makes notability a better solution than all the Windows available options especially given how well they integrate within the full productive OS.

I've just been wondering why I still haven't received my welcome email and the code for Adobe and checking on the website for Microsoft it states warranty:

Under warranty until: 08/06/2017

Have I bought a returned product as that warranty is short? - Is it displayed in the American form at 6th of August or is it actually 8th of June?

Either date means it's under 12 months warranty and I'm guessing this is why I haven't received a welcome code as it's already been registered?

I think you're still referring just to notetaking, to make it clear I did NOT say the iPad Pro is better than the Surface 4 for everything. I said it was better for ONE specific thing which is note taking, which I've already given details of and am not going to repeat myself. (Notability http://gingerlabs.com/)

Posts #24 and #25 on this thread explain it better than I can >

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/apple-ipad-pro-9-7-128gb-wi-fi-with-3-year-warranty-579-john-lewis-2499755

I actually think Apple should have put a full OS with a proper file manager on the iPad Pro, the Surface Pro series all have full Windows OS's even the failed Windows RT. It should be obvious that an iPad Pro can't compete on many areas with the Surface Pro 4.

I'm interested to know the facts why the iPad is better rather than just your conjecture.

Windows has Onenote, Plumbago, the Edge browser, Xodo, Sticky Notes, Screen Sketch to name a few. What is it that's available on the iPad that's better and why?

It's not just about the hardware, it's about the software. Do some research on Notability and then come back to me and tell me whose using a Galaxy Note over an iPad Pro for note taking if they have the choice of both platforms. That's what I was specifically talking about. The Surface may be the better platform for drawing on, I don't know as I'm useless at drawing.

Oh don't be so ridiculous, if you'd needed to take notes professionally you'll well know that the iPad Pro is the better option over the Surface.

Sale of goods act applies, fit for purpose.

Sorry, Apple devices are for uninformed fools

Samsung Note 8 or 10.1. Its integrated into the design of the hardware and software, when you unsheath the stylus it can auto open a note app. Also you dont ever have to worry about the pen running out of battery. Ive been real unimpressed with both Apple and MS stylus integration.

I got this deal a week ago, Adobe offer received after 72hours via email as already stated "welcome to surface pro " it's really is a great bit of kit, the screen is amazing. I use it mainly for editing photos and regular stuff like web browsing etc. Already had office 365 which runs perfectly. I did pop in a 200gb micro sd card for added memory and use this for automatically adding new music, photos, videos etc directly onto. I would highly recommend the Surface Pro 4

It doesn't work half the time. Your deals don't get tracked

That was something that was important to me too.

The first thing I did was record a video and then edit it on the Surface Pro 4 to see how it performed. You can see the outcome at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ2GrujK65U

In short, it's ok, but not great. The resolution is great for editing. I have the i7 with the iris graphics card and 16gb of RAM. I assumed it would breeze through video editing, however I found playback is a little jerky at times. I believe this is because Adobe Premiere Pro CC uses the CPU and not the graphics card. The i7 has two cores, which is why the quad core i5 in my 2009 iMac handles editing better.

Mine came in 4 days. Look for an email titled "Welcome to Surface Pro 4".

As someone who has owned both (the 12.9" iPad Pro), I disagree. The Apple Pencil may be better for drawing, but it leaves a lot to be desired for notetaking. The fiddly cap and charging method is ludicrous and Notability lacks a decent desktop app for syncing between devices. As a digital notepad to carry around, there's also nowhere to store the Pencil. The interchangeable tips on the Surface Pen and built-in eraser are great for handwriting and, as an overall package, it offers much more than the iPad Pro which simply can't be anything more than a very expensive companion device to a laptop/desktop.

2 different animals.

The Sony Z-Range is purely firing on the Android OS, whereas this Microsoft Tablet, is yes, firing on the Windows OS instead?.

So both the hardware and/or software configurations will be a little different to reflect such .....

So the choice basically comes down to which OS you'd now refer? (more so than anything ..... ). :-)

Poor soul who paid that much for a Surface 2 lol.

Hi, how long does it take to receive you adobe code? I still haven't received mine...

I got this offer and i have to say one of the best purchases ive had on HUKD
I sold my Surface pro 2 for 400 well worth the upgrade after cashback clears from currys and quidco i would have paid roughly 170 with a type cover
Streamed the xbox one no problem last night and its twice as big as the SP2 with half the weight, fanless option was great as hasn't made noise or over heated even whilst charging streaming the xbox
9/10 from me and thanks to opp for posting

Would this be a suitable device for basic video editing in Premier Pro CS6? Any advice would be most appreciated.

I have one... it is brilliant. especially when using the pen with OneNote... it is mainly an office type laptop but I can play a reasonable game of Supreme Commander on it, edit simple video, runs Adobe CS4 easily, view DVD ISOs movies.. I am very happy with it.

The iPad Pro is better at note taking than the Surface 4, there's no doubt about that.

iPad Pro + Pencil + Notability, nothing is better that I know of.

​Z4 Tablet is fantastic, but that's Android OS. Surface runs fully featured Win10 so different situation.

I disagree with this. I have no need for the pen, however I do like having such a light versatile device that can be used as a tablet or a laptop.

One size does not fit all. What works for me may not work for you and vice-versa.

I love my Surface and I doubt I will ever regularly use the stylus. It still offers a huge amount of functionality regardless of the pen.

​I would say you are better to spend the extra money and get an i5.

How am I supposed to take notes and mark up PDFs with a "light high end laptop"? How am I supposed to quickly sketch a diagram to show to a client? If I'm an artist, how am I supposed to draw or paint digitally without plugging in a Wacom?

How is a laptop "better suited for the job"? What job are you talking about? It's none of the examples above.

People are STILL missing the point of this. It's all about the PEN, people. If you need it, it's unbeatable. From OneNote to full Photoshop and Illustrator CC, NOTHING comes close - including the crippled iPad Pro. The fact that it can be used as a laptop or tablet (or even docked as a desktop) is a huge bonus. But if you don't need the pen, you don't need the Surface. For those of us who do, it's just fantastic and worth every penny.

I haven't decided on whether to go for this or the Pro 3 I7...

I have a surface pro 4. amazing kit. forget the bad reviews near launch. they were just software problems which have all been fixed now.

Have one for work. Great bit of kit but not sure I'd buy one - especially for £700! And Windows store ain't much cop.

thank your deal :")

I wouldn't like this for work.I'd choose a light high end laptop over this any day of the week and yes I have owned one in the past and also seen plenty use them in an office and feel a laptop is better suited for the job. Also I'd say by the time you buy all the accessories for this it will take your spend over 1000 pound

I bought a Surface Pro 3 (brand new) on eBay a few months ago: 256Gb, i7, 8Gb RAM. Paid £850.

I am a power iPad user. My iPad Air 2 is constantly by my side, constantly in use. (I also have iPad Pro). However, I also need a portable Windows machine (for legacy programmes, etc).

The SP3 took a little getting used to. W10 is obviously far more complex than IOS. Windows also requires a fine navigation tool since many of the icons are a little too small to touch with speed and precision. So you will need the support of the pen or a mouse.

That said, as long as you are aware that the SP4 is not a full-blooded tablet (not quite as nimble, not as intuitive, not as intimate), I don't think you'll be disappointed in it. It has certainly revived my faith in Microsoft (not entirely! since I don't like the policy of gathering and selling your data).

So, in short, whether your a Windows fan, an Android fanboy, or an Apple fanboy, I would endorse the recommendations.....

I would very much recommend getting the cheaper fanless M3 over an i5. I have an i5 and the fan is annoying as **** and really its still not powerful enough for most things to take advantage of the i5 so M3 is, imo, the way to go.

Still way too overpriced.

They offered a measly £50 for my dellxps centrino laptop tradein. I refused to buy the tablet as a result as 10% student beans 10% currys discount tesco points via giftcard purchase all seem like a good discount but the cost of they keyboard ontop without a tradein of at least £150 is still not tempting enough.

They test Laptop trade in's with some software in store. But the general rule is that an i7 laptop will get you £200, and an i5 will get you £125. Laptops should be less than 5 years old and in good condition. I exchanged an i7 (with had 8gb RAM and a 250ssd) and an i5 Surface Pro 1 laptop and got £325 off for Surface Pro 4. They will test it with software to give you an evaluation. My Laptops were in immaculate condition.
You can exchange up to 3 laptops, I believe. Please confirm by checking instore.
This one only has 4gb RAM and a 128gb ssd. But it is a laptop AND tablet. I have added a 128 micro sd card for disk space while using the main 128 gb ssd for programs. I am very happy with mine. Please bear in mind that Windows apps are not as varied as Android or IOS ones when making your decision.

Do not seem to pop up for me. Tried a few different browsers, but all the same. Oh well !

So, can someone explain to me the cheapest I can get this laptop for? I also have this other lenovo laptop that I bought last year. Can I use the laptop trade in and also get the discounts? I'll probably buy it if after everything, I can get it below £350. Can someone help a brother out? :smile:

I think they just pop up when you're browsing.

Apologies if I'm being dumb, but where on the Currys site can you start a online chat session ?

I cannot seem to see it. The Contact Us page just has phone and email contacts

Brill. Hope it goes well for us!

Done and I have confirmation from Customer Service and chat transcript print-screens etc. Cheers for this.

I think you're better off speaking to them for yourself and having your own record of if you need it?

Please send me a copy of transcript :smiley: greatly appreciated.

Any chance of sending me a copy of this transcript?

Quidco removed the specific Surface 4 rate shortly after this offer started, but you can still get 6.3% cashback via TopCashback if buying through PC World. Maybe another option for those who are not eligible for Studentbeans, or if they are, do not have a local store with stock.

I spoke to customer services to double check you can claim both and they confirmed it. Have a chat transcript to confirm this but if it doesn't work then at least it's a 10% instant discount.

Yep that's what I meant, announcing it in October for next year. All major review companies, along with lots of buyers, are upset that you need to spend over £100 for a keyboard and that it should be standard for this price tag. I agree and with Christmas around the corner, it would be wise for Microsoft to have a good bundle as we all know Apple will do so.

Competition leads to better options for customers like us so ill wait out 1-2 months and save a bit more overall.

Just my £0.02 though so shame on me if I'm wrong and miss out lol

I can't see it. 12 months between refreshes is pretty short. The rumour is a Surface all-in-one (iMac rival) is coming in October, with three new Surface devices in Spring 2017. These are likely to be the Pro 5, non-Pro Surface 4 and Surface Book 2.

Source: http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-product/tablets/surface-pro-5-release-date-new-windows-surface-pro-specs-price-uk-2016-2017-3640545/

Just got my email from Microsoft with my free 12 month Adobe Photoshop CC code. This has been a killer purchase.

Theyre meant to be announcing the pro 5 in October. If not needed right now, might be worth the wait of 2 months to get a better price possibly with a keyboard. Think I'll wait it out til then.

Probably better off with the immediate discount then. You can't claim the cashback until 21 days after purchase then have to wait up to 30 days for it to be paid.

Just been in store to buy. Was told if I take the student beans 10% then I wouldn't get the 10% cash back as it can't be used in conjunction with any other offer

You can only use the discount in store. Its on the StudentBeans app.

I finally bit the bullet and bought one.

StudentBeans have 10% off when you buy a surface at Currys. Cost £629!

I purchase £600 in gift cards from Tesco giving £18 in clubcard. Also reserved through Nectar in the hope that works too with their quadruple point promo! Then the 10% from Currys.

All in all a bargain :smiley:

So very tempting....yet can't budge at that price....But so tempting...

Any idea what this is like vs the surface 3 . I had one and after a week of trying I still couldn't get on with it ...

I doubt I will use the pen much anyways. It will be there mostly for show with me :smiley:

It is. The SP4 Type Cover is significantly nicer to type on with better key spacing - the trackpad is also larger and more responsive in my experience.

There's little reason to use the SP4 pen on the SP3, however. The extra pressure sensitivity won't work (restricted by SP3 screen) and the magnet doesn't attach to the SP3.

I actually considered the opposite from you and considered buying a second hand Surface Pro 3 with i7 matched with a newer Surface Pro 4 type cover and stylus. Most reviews say that the Surface Pro 4 keyboard is much better and worth the upgrade.

Good to hear that Microsoft has a good policy on returns.

I looked at the Spectre X2. It's a stunning piece of tech. I was put off by some of the horror stories regarding customer service, though - HP are notorious for this and you can end up without a device for weeks when it's away for repair. Microsoft appear to have taken a 'no questions asked' approach to customer service like Apple.

The Type Cover is overpriced but I've also used the £139 iPad Pro Smart Keyboard and that thing is an absolute disgrace. Total junk. Makes MS's offering look like a steal.

An alternative is an SP3 cover instead - Argos currently have the black for £59.99 (if you can find one): http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3314621.htm

I would have been happy with a little bit of weight being added to it. I read a review recently about a similar hybrid (can't recall if it was Lenovo) and the keyboard could be used via bluetooth. That shows it can be done. It's a good idea as it would let you place the screen away from you.

To me it looks like a cost saving measure on Microsoft's part. Many other companies are including the keyboard free of charge whilst Microsoft are charging around £100. And rival devices are already cheaper than the Surface Pro range.

There are a few alternatives to the Surface Pro 4. The HP Spectre X2 is probably the one with the best reviews.

At the moment the Surface Pro 4 has been getting the best reviews but in a year I reckon the market is going to be more competitive so Microsoft may have to step up their game a little bit when it comes to pricing.

I am really pleased with my purchase but I have no allegience to any company so in the future we should see prices on these computers coming way down.

That's the either/or scenario though. I'm guessing Microsoft decided against being able to use the Type Cover wirelessly as that would have involved putting a battery in it to power the Bluetooth. That adds both weight and thickness and I'm guessing they wanted to keep it slim and light without sacrificing key travel.

Almost all the third party options for both the Surface and iPad Pro operate over Bluetooth. This was probably to avoid having to pay the licencing fees for the connectors.

What are the chances of getting dell core i5 first generation 15 inch with dedicated graphics card valued at £200?

That is the one feature missing from the official type cover. I would love for it to be able to work via bluetooth while disconnected.

Main downside to this one is that you need to charge it separately whilst the official one draws power from the Surface Pro 4. You're right about the USA reviews being kinder. For the price it could be worth a punt.

There's a half decent looking backlit keyboard cover here for £28:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01AJOX7LU

Some ropey reviews but the Amazon US ones seem a bit more balanced. It's Bluetooth still, but that means you can use it while seperated from the Surface. Given Amazon's 30-day return policy it might be worth a shot.

Many thanks for all the advice.
Will wait for the price of the red one to drop to £70.00 via the 3 camels, hopefully. Using a full keyboard atm.
Cheers, mate and for the through review on youtube too.

Thanks. Ideally, I'd like to get something before then, but I could always order a case and wrap the skin around it as well.


Thanks John.

Yeah that is just a default Windows wallpaper. I haven't changed any theme settings as yet.

I don't mind the lack of protection at the front as I would be using it with the official type cover. Check out the Griffin survivor case for the Surface Pro 4 if you want protection for the screen. That completely wraps around the device and has a plastic screen in front of the screen. It also covers the ports. Perhaps a little overkill however if you are looking for complete protection it might be what you are looking for.

You can see the Griffin case on Amazon at https://www.amazon.co.uk/Griffin-Survivor-Slim-Microsoft-Surface/dp/B0199T2HXA/

I got the red type cover keyboard from Amazon. I picked it up for £69.99 last week from Amazon but it appears to be selling at £89.99 now. The black version has went up from £89.99 to £97.70 too.

Check out CEX if you are looking to pick it up a little cheaper. They sell it second hand for around £70.

Well you receive 150 clubcard points for every £50 giftcard you purchase. 150 points is £1.50 in normal clubcard money but you can x4 for things like restraunt vouchers and days out.

To buy this you could buy £700 worth of £50 vouchers. 14 x 150 points = 2,100 points (£21 or x4 at £84)

You can do this instead of the 6% cashback from Topcashback which is £33.50. I'd personally rather have £84 in clubcard boost as I use them.

Nice, thorough review.
I can see on the video that the top is a bit flimsy.
Also it does not have the front protected.
And the Lexar usb drive just would not connect. Oh well.
where did you purchase and how much did you pay for the red keyboard I saw in the beginning?
The wallpaper on the surface - was that a windows wallpaper?
Cheers, mate.

It was around 3 weeks. I had to chase them up as it was a week before they even dispatched it - might have just been an oversight on their part.

Thinking about picking one of these up today.

To get the best deal is:

Purchase giftcards from Tesco giving £21 worth of points.. x4 = £84 worth of vouchers
10% cashback from PCWorld = £70

Total Cost = £545?

I have just published the review of the Kensington BlackBelt 2nd Degree Rugged Case at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXCJw0u58EM.

Let me know if you have any other questions about it :smiley:

Nice. That looks very good. You mentioned it took a long time to arrive. Are we talking weeks or months?

Do you know if any UK companies stock them?


There's a few.

I don't like the UAG Urban Armor as it apparantly is very tight with the Surface and the kickstand makes a lot of noise. The Griffin survivor covers the ports so I wouldn't use that.

The STM bags Dux looks good. The Targus folio looks ok too.

A lighter alternative to consider is the Incipio Feather Advanced. Doesn't offer much protection but will protect against scratches etc.


You will need to buy the keyboard separately. I recommend buying it elsewhere as you will find it slightly cheaper.

Hi does this come with the keyboard and if yes , what colour is it ?

If it stops access to the USB flash drive then I'd give it a miss too. Many thanks for your advice.
Which one will you go for as an alternative?

I also have the red type cover. This is what I went for:

I went into the store about this yesterday and the price was still £849. I asked them about it and why it was not £700 like this deal and they had to look it up online to see it being £699.

They are the same but the only difference between the two is that the one in store (£849) comes with 3 or 4 years of Microsoft Office 365 and then after that you have to pay £60 each year to keep going. My memory is a bit rusty right now due to being tired but I think he said we only get 1 year of it from this £700. The in store version also comes with the McAfee antivirus but this offer does not.

So was an obvious choice for me. I took this one as I didn't want that Office 365 or McAfee. But that's a choice for anyone that is interested.

Cool.

I might need to revisit the idea of a screen protector. I don't think it would be necessary with a case such as the Kensington, but if I opt for a lighter case it's something I will need to check out.

Some of the skins available at https://dbrand.com/shop/surface-pro-4 look really good. I've got a red type cover so a white and red skin combination could work well.

Really easy to apply once you know how - watch the video here: https://dbrand.com/skins/how-to-apply/surface-pro-4

The key is to secure one small section first. Once that's in place you can pull off the rest of the backing and it falls into place perfectly. (The Skinomi ones are more involved - they require wet application and can be a pain.)

I've put tempered glass and film screen protectors on these devices and a 12.9" iPad Pro numerous times without an issue - use the 'hinge' method and you're set: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/applying-a-glass-screen-protector-like-a-boss.94743/

Forgot to say, the case is being picked up tomorrow. If you want me to take any pictures of the case at a particular angle let me know and I'll upload them :smiley:

I'm not too worried about dropping it as I'd never normally put a laptop in a case while using it. Also, flipping the kickstand out and holding the Surface with your fingers hooked under it when using it as a tablet is a really secure way to hold it.

The bigger issue for me is the magnesium back - it scratches easily. I had a Surface Pro 3 that got scratched up within a couple of days of owning it (grrr) after lightly putting it down on a dining table - a couple of stray salt grains must have caused the damage.

For that reason I now always apply a vinyl skin. DBrand do some nice ones that you can easily customise (including coverage for the metallic logo if you want) but they take an age to arrive from Canada. Skinomi make a decent all-body clear skin if you want to maintain the look of the device. Alternatively, there are some cheap carbon and metallic ones on eBay that work just fine. They also make the device more 'grippy' and less prone to a drop.

I think it gives the screen great protection due to the clasp round the back that holds the keyboard cover in place. Plus there is a fair amount of distance between the case and the surface.

I'm returning the case though as I found that the case stops me from using USB flash drives. Not a deal breaker for some people, but I didn't want any main ports to be blocked in that way; particularly as the surface pro only has one USB port.

The video will be online within an hour or so. I'll share it here. I'm going to order another soon.

Thanks Ma3stro. Protection is necessary but I was also wondering if the most fragile part of the Surface - the screen - that isn't protected, is it?
Looking forward to your review.
Cheers.

​Mmm depends on what you are looking for. It adds a lot of bulk and weight but it does offer a lot of protection.

I've only had it a few days so I'm still on the fence as to whether the added bulk is worth it for the protection. I'm tempted to try a lightweight case to see the difference; but I do feel the Surface is a bit too light and fragile on its own.

I'm published a review of it today on my YouTube channel so I'll share it later.

Hi Ma3stro, I was also considering the Kensington Rugged Case. Would you recommend it? Or would you advise on alternatives? Many thanks.

Has anyone tried this? Comes with a keyboard.

https://uk-store.acer.com/switch-alpha-12-2-in-1-sa5-271-2

I was keen on the Asus transformer when it was first released but opted for an ipad at the time due to pricing. The transformer was certainly one of the best Android tablets when it came out. I was all set to buy it thou in Colombia, where I was living at the time, the transformer was actually the same price as the top of the range iPad 3. Yet in the UK the iPad 3 was hundreds of pounds more expensive. Due to that I got the iPad 3.

I've just purchased the Kensington Rugged Case so my Surface is no longer thin and sexy. :disappointed:

quadruple points nectar? this week

Is there an 8gb version of the 128gb model?

Also any student discount available from Currys?

Well I had one of these for a bit and the thing that annoyed me most was the fact it was such a bad tablet. The app gap is huge, loads of apps just aren't there at all. Also ones that are there are poor imitations of the iOS/Android ones that are available (e.g. eBay, Plex, Amazon etc)

If you need a tablet for only a small proportion of the time and need to use it as a PC mostly then these are great machines. For those thinking to can replace an iPad then it can't.

I am currently using an iPad Pro with mouse and keyboard for work travel and removing into a desktop when I need to as I use tablet functionality quite a bit.

Things like fingerprint reader on the iPad to log into various apps and websites makes workflow a lot slicker for me. Windows Hello on the SP4 is pretty limited which is disappointing as nearly a year later it still can't be integrated into 3rd party apps.

Just be sure you know what you will be using it for, I've tried a Surface 3 and a Surface Pro 4 now but it just isn't there yet for me, don't get me wrong the idea of a single laptop/tablet device is very appealing I just don't it's been cracked yet.

The resale value on these seems quite low too, I bought a pristine 2nd hand i5/4GB with keyboard for 650 and couldn't get rid of it for love nor money. Ended up losing a hundred quid on it. (the good thing is the warranty travels with the device like Apple stuff) The Apple resale value is much higher. Not an issue if you plan on keeping it for quite a long time but something to bear in mind.

Does anyone bother getting the Care Plan or is that just a waste of money? If someone was to get a 2 year plan, does begin from the day you get the Surface Pro or does it begin after a year warranty (so on the second year)?

In a nutshell:
If you want full Adobe CC Suite on a full OS tablet with pressure sensitivity, your only option is the Surface Pro.
If you want a tablet without pressure sensitivity and just a lite version of Photoshop, buy an iPad Pro.
If you don't need a tablet, then why are you looking at a Surface Pro?

You must have a strange definition of new. The 12" Retina Macbook is an all-new design, and it launched just last year (2015).

The Macbook Air and Pro range have not been revised in quite a few years, although it's still a top notch design and the lack of progress from Intel on new CPU's means they aren't as dated as some people like to make out. There will be a new Pro range at some point this year though.

Saw the same deal today in carphone warehouse - canary warf branch.

There has been no "new" MacBooks for quite a few years.

I said Macbook (the new 12" ones)

I tried to get the Quidco cashback pay on line and collect in store(reserve and collect only gives you 1%) but they wouldn't let me do this and trade in my Sony ultrabook. How do you do this? Thanks

I think its better to buy a refurb Apple Macbook from 2015 (£759). Given it doesn't match the processor nor the ports (although a USB adapter is available) - i'd rather have a reliable machine + 8gb ram standard + 256gb hard drive.

For those will say its a different beast to the Surface tablet, by the time you add a keyboard you are in essence trying to make it into a laptop - this is where the Macbook comes in.

What's all this RAM nonsense? Our aging desktop has a Core 2 Duo and 2gb of RAM and has no problem with a dozen or more chrome tabs open, running Skype etc.

Although, agree this should really be coming with more RAM as standard, given the price, whether you personally need it or not.

The iPad Pro is almost certainly the future of the portable Mac. Look at the current Mac lineup; it's completely neglected. When iPad sales drop low enough, they will fuse the 12" Macbook and iPad Pro lines; macOS will basically merge with iOS (although it will probably be more of a dumbing down of the former) and the Mac/iOS hybrid will be born. I can see them dropping the Macbook Air, Mac Mini and Mac Pro. We'll probably end up with a regular iPad, a Macbook/iPad Pro hybrid and the 5k iMacs.

As for this offer...I just pulled the trigger on the i5 version in-store. Managed to nab a mispriced Type Cover for £69 as well (which they reluctantly honoured). That works out as:

Regular price: i5 £849 + Type Cover £109 = £958
Offer price: i5 £699 + Type Cover £69 - Cashback £70 = £698
Saving of £260 - I'll take that.

Also, don't know if this has been mentioned but there is a free 12 month subscription to Adobe Creative Cloud Photography also included, worth around £90 (Photoshop CC & Lightroom CC).

It took Jobs dying to get people a phone and tablet the size they wanted. They have a tendency to stubbornly refuse products that don't fit their current vision. The problem is a touch screen mac, especially done right as a 2-in-1 would destroy the ipad segment completely. They'll be crunching the numbers waiting until it hits the tipping point that enough extra macbook's will sell to make up for the loss of ipad sales.

bought one - have no idea why!? Oh no!

Apple will release a hybrid within the next two years, call it a fancy trademarked name and claim it's an original idea.

Any ideas how long this offer lasts until?

I find it hard to comprehend that Apple still hasn't made a hybrid. They are being completely ignorant to what even a section of their own users are demanding. I have to disagree with the comment about the 12" Macbook keyboard being better, though - I write thousands of words a day and the SP4 type cover is infinitely better. The Macbook keyboard is simply too shallow for me - it's an RSI nightmare waiting to happen.

As for all these "should I get this or a Macbook/laptop" etc comments...if you don't know WHY you want an SP4 then DON'T buy one. The key is the PEN. If you need pen input in a very portable form factor, the SP4 is hard to beat. No normal laptop can allow me to mark up PDFs, for example - the Surface can. There are plenty of laptops and cheaper hybrids out there without the pen support.

It's a good laptop. It's a good tablet. But it's a fantastic pen-enabled hybrid - that's the differentiating factor.

Hot because of price but I recently nearly pulled the trigger on one of these and ended up with a 12" MacBook retina. 512gb m5 version. It's lighter, smaller, and has a much better keyboard. The SP is an excellent concept but they keyboard isn't great, nor is the touchpad which makes it a mediocre laptop. As a tablet it is flawed. Too large and Windows doesn't work as a tablet OS for me.

Apple; give the 12" a detachable touch screen which runs iOS as well as macOS and you'll clean up.

do you John Lewis price match this?

they give extra warranty.. might be something to look at

also i notice Amazon have dropped their price now to match this with out the 10% cash back.

currently working on the boss at work to let me have one as a test machine. Fingers crossed I can persuade him, always wanted one

i have bought this but now thinking maybe a entry level macbook pro retina refurb 13" would be better?? forget about price

I'm surprised you've managed to type so much without losing battery on your SP4. Or was it plugged in all that time?

What are the returns policy for Currys? Can you return it if you do not like it within 2 weeks?

It's called Edenred Advantages. You purchase vouchers from their website with a credit card at a 6.5% discount.

I was only offering my experience of the Surface Pro family - as many others have here - as I think views and experiences on the quality and reliability of predecessor technology is entirely relevant. Many companies have built a reputation on quality and reliability over years and decades through the evolution of their products - German car manufacturers (pre VW scandal) is an obvious example. I therefore think my posts entirely relevant. You may choose to think otherwise but then frankly your thoughts are pretty irrelevant to me.

I think it's great, genuine all day battery life and because MS had a big hand in developing it, it is quick and doesn't come full of crap. I've had a 2 in 1 Asus transformer and a surface pro and this is miles better. Was worried about the hinges becoming weak after daily opening and swiveling but a year on its spot on, feels rock solid, love the chasis, backlit keyboard is a God send, powerful enough for work and it plays elite dangerous in bed for hours even on power saver mode, what else could you want :wink:

great but its still a windows device. windows app store still lacking. I have a windows phone and i get by with it but miss apple a little (dont tell them) They are somewhat overpriced for what they are but then most tech is inc apples stuff. Go linux!

Poor quality post

That's your opinion and your allowed to have it but I really like my purchase and I'm happy with the price I paid for it.

It's only WiFi? Or 4g also

​Thanks - I have a touchscreen desktop and it never gets used so can live without it on a laptop, cheers for the advice, it was my initial thought anyway

You can't buy using pre-tax balance you can only buy at a discount as a benefit using card.

Ignore the troll these never shipped with Windows 7.

Would anyone consider this an upgrade on a pimped out MacBook Pro 2012, 15in, i7 with 16gb RAM and a 1tb SSD?

I know nothing about these things, I currently have a Sony Z4 Tablet, is this better?

I know nothing about the surface pros

How much do you think They will offer for my surface 3?

If you have a child in nursery and get childcare vouchers through Edenred (which I do) you can also purchase Currys vouchers for 6.5% discount from the Edenred website.

Use the Surface Pro 3. Can see its huge potential but can't take advantage because it's locked to Windows 7. They might as well have provided paper and a snapped pencil.

Quidco are offering good cashback on this

Quidco won't pay cashback on the VAT

What a brilliant deal - I've been MacBook Pro daft for years but got one of these (an i7) back in June. Early reviews must be from before the software updates. It's rock solid, they're blazing fast, the handwriting recognition is phenomenal. Would be easy to go on. I use it as a laptop, as a tablet, and I've recently bought a dock and monitor and it's my go-to desktop. I only use my 2015 iMac for music and some games (using Bootcamp Windows 10) for some games that need the dedicated graphics card.

good kit but cannot bring my self to pay 700 ton for 4gigs of ram

The Surface Quidco cashback has been taken off now, which means it's just the standard 1% unfortunately :disappointed:

So that's 808 quid (if you include the 109 quid (!!) type cover that Currys have a bundle for) for a fairly heavy Windows laptop with only 4GB RAM. And that's 150 quid less than the RRP apparently! No idea how this got over 1,000 degrees even at this "reduced" price.

I have the 10 inch Sony Z3 ,when i bought it i thought it would replace my Laptop.After trying for a year,I just cant get used to some websites in the android format like Facebook, Ebay,Amazon etc. Dont get me wrong its great for going on holiday or listening to music.I just prefer the feel of a laptop on my lap to a Tablet.

Haha... Yes I had to google it! >.<

Sounds like a work supplied device.

Anyone know when this deal ends?

Great deal. Was considering getting a new iPad but I reckon putting a little more for this would be well worth it.

​this should be updated in the deal description itself in that case

My apologies. So a £300 item would be £240? I assumed quidco would apply 10% on the final price after the first 10% was applied, e.g. £270, making the total £243. If that's not the case then that's amazing. Never knew quidco was such good value.

Really want a surface pro but my macbook air is still going strong!! Someone give me a reason to buy one!

p.s. I have already ascended so don't give me that crap. Macbook for mobile and PC for work/gaming

FYI all those who are considering a trade in. They run a piece of software on the laptop to diagnose it. I had a good i7 laptop with a relatively new SSD in it and the diagnostic failed on the SSD!? The chap could not elaborate on what criteria it failed the SSD on. Bit like 'computer says no' answer!

Is there one available with 8gb but still keeping the price low similar to this?

PC World 'is' Curry's to most people, seeing as virtually every one of its High Street stores trades as Curry's/PC World.
And to soon be 3 in 1 - Currys/PC World/Carphone Warehouse.
I could be wrong though. :wink:

It wasn't obvious to the individual my response was for, apparently.

Hi there thanks,

I checked the Terms and Conditions and saw that my laptop would not qualify due to its age.

I also checked O2 Priority to see if there were any deals on there also for Currys but sadly nothing there.

Hi there guys,

Can somebody please explain, how would I be able to benefit from the -

1) Upto £200 Tradein for an old Laptop

2) The 10% Quidco if I place the order instore making total saving of 20% Plus however much can get for a 7 year old Intel Core2Duo Sony Vaio Laptop?

I'm gonna lose out somewhere I feel.

Got my wife the surface 3 with keyboard last year for Christmas and she loves it... this is very tempting but might go for a better spec one

Nice, got one for the darling daughter. She starts primary school in a few weeks!

Poor value for money.

you can also buy this from pc world business for £628.99 + 5% quidco if you don't want to wait for cash back. net of quidco it work out just over £600. you won't be able to trade in, though

I don't know what more you wanted, I said that it wasn't for my type of usage so I didn't vote, I could have just done like many other do with Apple products for example and vote cold :smiley:

Like this?

256Gb micro SD card for £13.79 prime / £18.54 non prime pre-order @ Amazon
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/256gb-micro-sd-card-for-13-79-prime-18-54-non-prime-pre-order-amazon-2498039

This is a thread about a Surface Pro.......

That applies to every manufacturer. Microsoft are a software company so it's pretty obvious.

It's nearly £15 cheaper at microsoft.com:
https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msuk/en_GB/pdp/productID.328194200?gclid=CKrB8qv9zM4CFRcTGwodyewOQw&VID=328194300&s_kwcid=AL!4249!3!87389473442!!!g!66568334325!&WT.mc_id=uk_datafeed_pla_google&WT.mc_id=pointitsem&WT.mc_id=Surface&ef_id=VlJdlQAAAJi9l3t8:20160819074201:s

Hi

Anyone know what you need to qualify for the £200 off this price in regards to trade in?

Ignore reviews, I have the M3 version it's outstanding

This is the only Lynx I want :smiley:

It's okay. If you want something for actual work, a Linx 10 is about as much use as a monkey anyway.

cold overpriced can get a Linx 10 for a monkey

​I can vouch for this. Touchscreens were really poor in the beginning. I had an Acer convertible about 8+ years ago and the touchscreen was pretty poor. It was the older resistive screen that you had to press down really hard.

​Sorry. Meant to say mSata slot (typing from my phone). It's a tiny slot under the Lenovo X220 that can be used to install a sim card. Instead, you can put in a hard drive. I installed an mSata SSD in the slot and installed Windows there. Then I sold the sim card module on eBay.

Superb bit of kit. User bargain at this price!!!

I received an MS Surface Pro 3 from my employer about 9 months ago, along with five of my colleagues. They have been nothing but trouble and totally temperamental - real problems when you dock / un-dock them, freeze constantly and simply switch themselves off for no apparent reason. All have been returned to IT and have come back pretty much the same. All have had a major update about six weeks ago and were returned in equally a remperamental state. Three have been subject to complete rebuild but to no avail and with an almighty cheer I celebrated the death of mine a fornight ago - complete failure of the battery. I requested my old Lenovo Thinkpad back but alas my good friends at Microsoft will be supplying me with a new Surface Pro - I really wish they wouldn't. Someone said earlier that these devices are the future of PC/Laptop/Tablet - if you want you to use your Device as Frisbee then that is certainly the case, however, if you actually want something that is in any way functional and reliable, look elsewhere.

Microsoft has this tech back in 2005 when they were looking at using MS surface as a industry application. Like paying for meals and drinks.

Microsoft has a habit of storing fantastic products and milking its existing ones. They don't want to see mankind improve with technology. The just want our ££££
And they pay big ££ for reviews.

Look at their new advert the guy says "I can't use a pen on a Mac"
Lie - you can but its more intuitive to use a finger.

Microsoft could have made the iPhone the iPad, something similar to a galaxy note / edge or any of these sleek products but they choose to make rubbish that falls apart with no servicing options.

i dont know whether to get this or hold out for the new one or get a mac pro...so hard to decide and the fact that im going to have to fork out about £100 for the type cover is putting me off too

The first mod I did when I bought it was remove the mobile sim slot and replace it with an M4 data drive. Windows is installed on that so it runs fairly quickly. :smiley:

Ebay says the surface 3 keyboard works with the surface 4???? Any one verify that?

they're nice bits of kit, but you want to get an extended warranty and/or insurance, in case it breaks when out of warranty as they're expensive to repair.

Hot, but I wish some deals would come up on the 16GB flavour :/

You might want to read this first.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/spark/5cb33edf-9e51-4a12-9375-5a45fade1477?page=1

Are the specs good enough for a student?

"Gaming PCs are expensive" - buys a console and a Surface Pro 4. lol

But you didn't quote what you did with it, just implied that if you want a desktop experience, you'd need 8GB of RAM, that's the problem probably more than 75% of people, including quite heavy users, would happily live in 4GB of RAM, but posts like yours which don't differentiate between your workload and the norm. Thankfully you did qualify it later, but it doesn't change your first post.

I rarely use more than 4GB on my tablets (just checked neither my desktop replacement laptop nor my tablet is using more than half the available 8GB), despite having SQL, Visual Studio and Office running. Frankly if I struggled to live within 4GB of RAM just browsing, I'd be looking to change either the browser, my working practices or simply close a few more tabs a bit more frequently.

mike

I have 23 of this exact model out in the field.
Early sleep/wake issues have been resolved, I still recommend shutting them down if your not going to use them for a while. (common sense really)
Fantastic piece of kit with no complaints from the users, the majority of their issues relate to user error or elsewhere.
I had the SSD fail in one from a release batch and they do all seem to have a little backlight bleed at the bottom of the screen (only noticeable during the dark boot screens)

I don't know what that guy talking about his surface pro 3 being locked to Windows 7...
AFAIK the SP3 came with Windows 8 and there is no driver support for Windows 7 or earlier? (Not possible to my knowledge)


I can highly recommend these devices.

The two cashback aren't dependent on each other so it would be 10%+10% =20%???

So is it 20% in total (10% cashback from currys + 10% from quidco)?

​Ma3stro - If you haven't already, update to an ssd drive and you will see a great improvement in performance, even with Sata ii, but massive increase if your laptop is Sata iii.

Should have been not much higher than this price at launch.

​i have the m3 fanless and you do get a lot more battery life and it's silent of course - BUT the SSD is much slower and there are no upgrade options.

I'm looking at this deal thinking I may switch up to the i5 for drive speed.

Seems like a good deal.

Quidco is 1% for reserve and collect orders

Again, your usage not mine, I do virtual machines, docker and kubernetes, hence the emphasis on "for me" in my comment

New MacBooks are coming soon too.

I've always wanted a surface pro but Windows is just a pain to use as a tablet. In fact in any format.

What's the real life battery life like on these?

I got a Surface Book on launch which was even further plagued with issues but now the device is amazing. I highly suggest a Surface to anyone who wants an ultra portable but do it all laptop. These things can even play games on lower settings like LOL when you have off time.

so this would become 630 after cashback?

We’re making better for you.

We’ll be back soon.



That could take years?

Wanted a Surface Pro 3 since they came out and thereafter one of these - then work gave me an HP EliteBook 840 (whereas another member of staff has a SP4) and it seems better (I have an iPad Air and would not use the tablet features on this). Now for my personal business use I'm thinking an HP Envy 13 may be a better bet/better value that the Surface Pro 4 with keyboard? What do you think?

I do like the idea of the pen though! :stuck_out_tongue:

Damn looks like the Quidco has been reduced from 10% to 6%.

The issue was actually Intel's new processors which effected many other high end laptops. The few software based gripes have been corrected too. Also goes for the Surface Book.

Appears to be 6 percent cashback via quidco.

how to do trade in please

Does if matter if the laptop is slightly damaged? Mine has a broken usb port.

To be honest, for £125 I'd probably keep a hold of it as a backup. Still probably a better route to go down than ebay etc

Is this written down somewhere? I have an i7 lying around

4gb is fine, I run SQL server 2014, IIS, Dreamweaver and Photoshop with 2 monitors on my HP spectre x360, runs spot on. Too many people assume you 32gb of ram to run chrome and edit pictures of your cat. 4gb is enough, unless you're editing 4k videos or running multiple vms.

Emphasis on the for me, I agree with myself :smiley:

Same experience here. Surface is in a class of its own. Kinda wish the price wasn't so expensive.

​I reckon 4GB should be sufficient. You might even want to consider the M3 version. It's less powerful but it's fanless and should give better battery life.

​Yeh my son will just be using for downloading pdf, editing pdf, word, powerpoint and general other stuff.

cracking deal. i have one for work and would happily have another for personal use

i have one of these from work (can't remember mine is 4gb or 8gb). It's really good. i have an old Dell i7 laptop. The fan drives me crazy

I had a psion 3c when it came out at school, I was 20 years ahead of my time. Remember doing an English essay on it before realising I had no way of printing it, so had to lend it my teacher to take home and mark!

Wow... I forgot about Psion.... I loved my Psion 3!

Additionally, this is an amazing price. This model was around £850 most places just a week or so ago.

Heat added.

I got the i7 256gb SSD with 16gb RAM last week.

All in all I'm really happy with it, though playing back clips through Premiere Pro CC is not as good as I had hoped for an i7. For general usage and most non-intensive tasks the i5 will be fine.

It's a great little device and the sleep of death issue that plagued the Surface Pro 4 when it was first launched does not appear to be there. Battery life is pretty decent when the battery saver mode is activated.

I published my first impressions of it on YouTube at https://youtu.be/RrybM_1pMD8

I wouldn't recommend the 4GB version though unless you are only going to be using this for basic tasks such as Facebook, YouTube and emailing etc.

If anyone has any questions about it, please let me know :smiley:

4gb of ram, what year is this? 2005?, they really need to make 8gb minimum for this kind of money.

Oh and people need to stop defending the amount, sure... it runs fine, I've used one... But you know it and I know it, 4gb is stingy as hell for this price.

Would be hot with 8GB of RAM, the only point of buying a Surface for me is the desktop experience, with 4GB it's simply not possible. I'll abstain on voting :smiley:

This is a great price. The student discount from MS is normally pretty good on these, and even that is £764

So with this being ~£630 after cashback....really good. I've wanted a surface for a while after using one at work. I just wish the type covers were a more reasonable price.

Does anyone know whether you can trade in a decent tablet instead of a laptop?

Heard it's awful not nearly as good as the surface pro 3

Does this have a use port?

i love my surface 3 but this will be a huge upgrade. Thanks

Great deal but unless you need the cpu power of the Pro4 the Surface 3 4Gb RAM may be a better alternative. The Pro4 is heavy and I found it uncomfortable to use for prolonged periods as a tablet. The 3 however I find just as comfortable as a full size iPad. Would pick the 3 over the Pro4 or iPad for general home use, I find it so convenient having a USB port and being able to run full Windows apps. I do have the keyboard which really opens up its functionality when you need it.

Ok, most of my comment vanished after I hit send. Oh well!

Got a second hand pro 3 just after Christmas for around 500 with the keyboard etc. Good device! Very handy. I rarely use it as a tablet tbh

Only thing that has gone wrong is the power brick. Microsoft swapped it no questions asked.

The fanless m3 version is only £629 (plus cashback) as well:

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/microsoft-surface-pro-4-128-gb-10139732-pdt.html

Having thought about this, just the fact that I need to buy a keyboard for it adds another £100 on top which puts me off. Keyboard is literally essential for this one, otherwise it kind of loses its point really and half of the functionality. Voting hot though because it's a good price for the tablet itself.

I have a lenovo laptop, is there any way of knowing what they would offer apart from going in to store, cant be arsed going in there and get offered a stupid ammount

Any with 8gb or 16gb options?

Would love one of these but put off by the reviews, hmmmmmm

Fantastic price, especially with 10% cash back. Hot from me.

V good price