Let the Bosch WAE24377GB, 7kg washing machine help with the laundry. Its got a fast 1200rpm and uses ActiveWater™ technology where sensors ensure the exact amount of water is used; designed to save water. With an A+++ energy rating will save you money too.
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corgi74
2 Aug 162#1
If I remember correctly the WAE series are the pretend Bosch models. Rebadged Turkish brand. If it's got a curved handle it's not a real Bosch.
Made by Beko then. Beko was actually recommended to me in Currys over any other cheap brand so could be worth a punt.
teerex
3 Aug 161#3
Thought it was cheap for a Bosch, now I know why according to the comments
spannerzone
4 Aug 162#5
so disappointed that Bosch feel they need to try compete with bottom of range market and devalue their good name.
corgi74 to spannerzone
4 Aug 16#6
Bosch and Siemens are the same company and the quality ones are now under the Siemens brand. I think it's a case of using a known brand to sell budget items. Like Polaroid with TVs
paulandpam1
4 Aug 16#7
Take no notice of the brand name because we have a cheap so called Bosch that looks almost identical to this and it's crap.
Even the 1200 spin program needs repeating twice to get the clothes ready for my tumble dryer to dry them.
I'm not voting either way because you get what you pay for and this is a cheap machine but don't expect a quality product.
Besford to paulandpam1
4 Aug 161#8
Whereas my 'cheap' Bosch has been doing a fantastic job for several years now, so there! :smiley:
Seriously, IF it is a BEKO then at least it's the best budget brand out there - not my personal opinion but that of many contributors to Which? reviews, etc.
People get so snobby about the name stuck on their white goods - be more rational and objective. Next you'll be trying to tell us that Audis are better made than Skodas!
paulandpam1
4 Aug 16#9
LOL! I will tell you, Audis are better made than Skodas and people are rightly snobby about brand names and expect the quality from the name. But these big companies seem to be destroying such good names , Panasonic, Blaupunkt, for instance.
How would you feel if you bought a new Mercedes only to find out it was made by in Korea by Ssangyong? Thankfully it hasn't happened yet.
spannerzone to paulandpam1
4 Aug 16#10
Agreed, I'm not a brand snob at all but I detest a quality brand using outsourced products just so they can sell a model in the budget sector as they feel they need to compete with Beko, Indiset etc, I suspect they make little money (that's why they don't make them themselves) so why does Bosch feel the need to supply a machine to a market sector (budget value in this case) when most people associate Bosch with higher priced better built products?
When people find out their Bosch or Panasonic is made by someone else it bugs them and they might feel cheated so it damages their brand name. Still what do we know about business eh!
Besford to paulandpam1
4 Aug 161#16
Well, Audi and Skoda are both VW brands and Skoda achieves much higher customer satisfaction than Audi.
That Merc could have been made in various places, including South Africa and USA (neither of which is noted for high quality vehicles). Plenty of BMWs also made in the USA. How many people realise their cute, trendy little FIAT 500 is made in Poland or that their new Jeep is actually a FIAT? Those criminally expensive iPhones are all made in China. The list is endless. Get over your lazy brand snobbery and use some more objective measures of 'quality'.
naich
4 Aug 16#11
We had a cheap Bosch washing machine and the drum bearings went after about 14 months. It was a sealed unit, so could not be fixed other than by buying a complete drum for 1/2 of the cost of a new machine. I avoid Bosch stuff now. If you are going to buy crap, it might as well be cheap crap rather than expensive crap.
pavel76 to naich
4 Aug 161#12
...so your washing machine was still under warranty, what's the problem ? Bosch gives 2 year warranty - not 1 like cheap brands which people trying referr to...
Hpi_matrix
4 Aug 161#13
Just bought this as our washing machine stopping working yesterday, its the only sub £250 machine I could find with 2 year warranty and a Which? review. Just hope its ok for a few years.
apmirkin
4 Aug 16#14
neff or siemens usually better
pavel76 to apmirkin
4 Aug 161#15
Siemens and Bosch are the same company
paulandpam1
4 Aug 16#17
My 'objective measures of quality' was the reason for my first post.
I bought a well known decent brand named washing machine called Bosch that in previous years were made to a very high standard by German engineers so I wrongly expected it to be a quality item.
When in reality it was a poorly built and badly performing machine made in some budget Asian or Eastern Europe factory and not the quality item I was expecting.
My original comment was to take no notice of the brand name and don't expect it to be of the quality expected from such a brand name.
Many people are now being duped because of brand names from years ago and as you say don't realise they are actually buying rebadged tat and that was exactly the point of my first post.
pavel76 to paulandpam1
4 Aug 16#18
It would be silly to expect hight quality MADE IN GERMANY washing machine for around £200, or not ?... you need to pay at least £500 for proper one - like WAW or WAY series
apmirkin
5 Aug 16#19
Ssangyong is not terrible. It's buying the parts whichmakes them a pain.
I own a Kia and thats Korean. I own the 2014 Rio and it scored well for reliability.
Somehow, they did a face update for 2015 and updated some interiors parts and the 2015 version onwards is not good....
However, over in the Philippines, they are super reliable still... depends on the factory.
You are right, Skoda topped Honda this year. Yet Honda had a solid 7 or 8 year run for reliability...
However, I read into the ratings and they reckon that warranties were used against batteries repairs too! However, car batteries are not made by manufacturers. So I dunno why they marked Honda on battery issues when the alternators charger just fine. Thats down to stupid owners not owning trickle chargers and leaving the batteries flat for months...
Worst was Land Rover! Yet the Range Rover costs as much as £72,000 to buy and upwards..
apmirkin
5 Aug 16#20
I know, but they are not built in the same factory! Which gives a variation on quality.
Neff is part of them too
Besford
5 Aug 16#21
I have a new Neff gas hob - it was made in Spain - presumably the only 'Neff' part is the badge? Works just fine though. I would have had a near identical BEKO one but it was out of stock; price difference was only around £20.
Lots of opinions in this thread, usually based on samples of one. Meaningless!
Like most consumer goods you can get a bad one from a good company or a good one from a bad company. Some people seem to lack any sort of mechanical sympathy and can break most things but they think the goods are poor. Bosch and BEKO are mid table in most meaningful surveys. You could go for a Miele (better reliability but NOT perfect) but at four times the price I doubt that it's a rational purchase for most.
I suggest that Bosch (and BEKO) are at the 'sweet spot' in the market in terms of value.
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No idea which one it is personally, by the way, was just trying to find out in Google and your quote came up first!
Even the 1200 spin program needs repeating twice to get the clothes ready for my tumble dryer to dry them.
I'm not voting either way because you get what you pay for and this is a cheap machine but don't expect a quality product.
Seriously, IF it is a BEKO then at least it's the best budget brand out there - not my personal opinion but that of many contributors to Which? reviews, etc.
People get so snobby about the name stuck on their white goods - be more rational and objective. Next you'll be trying to tell us that Audis are better made than Skodas!
How would you feel if you bought a new Mercedes only to find out it was made by in Korea by Ssangyong? Thankfully it hasn't happened yet.
When people find out their Bosch or Panasonic is made by someone else it bugs them and they might feel cheated so it damages their brand name. Still what do we know about business eh!
That Merc could have been made in various places, including South Africa and USA (neither of which is noted for high quality vehicles). Plenty of BMWs also made in the USA. How many people realise their cute, trendy little FIAT 500 is made in Poland or that their new Jeep is actually a FIAT? Those criminally expensive iPhones are all made in China. The list is endless. Get over your lazy brand snobbery and use some more objective measures of 'quality'.
I bought a well known decent brand named washing machine called Bosch that in previous years were made to a very high standard by German engineers so I wrongly expected it to be a quality item.
When in reality it was a poorly built and badly performing machine made in some budget Asian or Eastern Europe factory and not the quality item I was expecting.
My original comment was to take no notice of the brand name and don't expect it to be of the quality expected from such a brand name.
Many people are now being duped because of brand names from years ago and as you say don't realise they are actually buying rebadged tat and that was exactly the point of my first post.
I own a Kia and thats Korean. I own the 2014 Rio and it scored well for reliability.
Somehow, they did a face update for 2015 and updated some interiors parts and the 2015 version onwards is not good....
However, over in the Philippines, they are super reliable still... depends on the factory.
You are right, Skoda topped Honda this year. Yet Honda had a solid 7 or 8 year run for reliability...
However, I read into the ratings and they reckon that warranties were used against batteries repairs too! However, car batteries are not made by manufacturers. So I dunno why they marked Honda on battery issues when the alternators charger just fine. Thats down to stupid owners not owning trickle chargers and leaving the batteries flat for months...
Worst was Land Rover! Yet the Range Rover costs as much as £72,000 to buy and upwards..
Neff is part of them too
Lots of opinions in this thread, usually based on samples of one. Meaningless!
Like most consumer goods you can get a bad one from a good company or a good one from a bad company. Some people seem to lack any sort of mechanical sympathy and can break most things but they think the goods are poor. Bosch and BEKO are mid table in most meaningful surveys. You could go for a Miele (better reliability but NOT perfect) but at four times the price I doubt that it's a rational purchase for most.
I suggest that Bosch (and BEKO) are at the 'sweet spot' in the market in terms of value.