A question about CCTV in a deal thread about CCTV is irrelevant is it? Who put you in charge?

The NVR provides power to the cameras. You can only use the cameras provided with this (or another ZMODO) NVR as they appear to be specifically wired to communicate with this NVR.

If one of your cameras breaks, you cannot plug in another brand POE compatible camera - it will not work. This NVR provides sPOE which does not comply with the normal POE standard.

The cameras that are supplied with this have their own proprietary protocol and wiring. If you try and plug one of these in to a switch that provides POE, it will not work.

Normal Ethernet requires a minimum of 4 wires for TX and RX data, these cameras transmit their data over 2 wires so goodness knows what kind of interface or protocol they are using.

So ........ bottom line .......

If the NVR breaks, your cameras are useless.
If a camera breaks, unless you can buy another Zmodo camera, you lose that camera and can't replace it.

Too many uncertainties for me so I've asked eBuyer to cancel my order.

If however you are after a fairly decent standalone system and are willing to take the risk that the whole system could be obsolete if the NVR develops a fault then it is a reasonable buy.

Are you on firmware 40.0.3.0 ?

I can access the cameras on Zviewer and view them but I've lost all access to view live video or new recorded video on Zviewer since the update.

I'm using the latest firmware, Zviewer for PC still works perfectly for me?

For all those who bought this system, think very carefully before using the latest firmware update. What Zmodo don't tell you is that it will stop you using the Zviewer application and prevents IE access to the unit.

This now leaves me with zero ways to view the cameras / recorded video other than signing up for their "Cloud" services ........

http://community.zmodo.com/t/i-cant-access-zmodo-nvr-using-internet-explorer-after-update-software-version-to-v40-0-3-0/3844/5

Things have not progressed well.

Ebuyer say they can't replace a single camera (after apparently speaking to the manufacturer). They say they will do a full RMA, which I don't want to do, or give me a £10 refund for the faulty camera.
Zmodo (via chat) don't really want to know and basically just kept saying ask the seller to replace the camera, even after I referred them to the point above.

So I'm basically stuck with a 3 camera system and I really need that 4th.
So let's try a long shot here.

Has anyone done an install where you've not used all your cameras and would be willing to sell me a spare?

Turn WiFi off on your phone and see how it works.

Have you tried the MeShare app...im finding that the best for remote viewing

Thanks for your help, I had created an account but when I used zsight it didnt require me to login. I have gone onto the zmodo website and logged in then I can see my recorder. Playing with the record settings and getting used to how it works but subject to testing away from home tomorrow I think I am now ok. Thanks very much for your assistance.

I assume you've registered a Zmodo account?

It wouldnt format so I switched the NVR off then on then again tried to format and I think it may be working now. Just have to find out why I cant view the cameras when I am away from home I have checked that Upnp is enabled.

Should record automatically then.

The software on the monitor gives the HDD information and to be sure I have reformated it

Is it detecting the HDD?

I tested my remote viewing this morning and weirdly it just started working. No idea why :/

I can see the live cameras fine but I just decided to have a look back at the DVR and it doesnt seem to be recording, is anyone else having a similar problem? I also have the same problem as JayBird, cant seem the cameras while I am away from home.

Yep. Check upnp on your router.

Finally got this all set up. Just wondering, should the ZSight app allow you to view remotely i.e. when your not on the same network?

I can only view the cameras when i am on the same network :disappointed:

Very few kits record audio.

I've just realised there's no audio on this. It's not a deal breaker as I feel its quite good for the price, but it'll have been great it it recorded both video and audio

Good ol' BT

Yeah, BT had a major outage today. Affected us at work too.

Funny you should mention it...

Couldn't access remotely today at work, seems BT went down and when my router rebooted, it assigned a different IP over DHCP and UPNP didn't work.

Rebooted the NVR, all fine.

Jeez...i thought that sentence was going to end with the word 'died' rather than 'cobwebs'...phew.

Got all my stuff from Screwfix ready for installation on Sunday (hangover permitting, at a stag do on Saturday)

Day after installation, two of my cameras have cobwebs!

As above - grab some CAT5e cable and run pop some RJ45 plugs on the end - tools can be had for around a tenner to do it. Alternatively if you're feeling lazy, grab some ready make cable around the right length, cut one end off any feed it through the hole - you only have one end to crimp back on :wink:

Don't wire into the camera. Just run another cat5 and plug it in.

Thanks for this, I originally wondered if the cables were special so shouldnt be touched, I now realise that they are not standard cat5 cables but they can be replaced with standard cables so I wouldnt invalidate warantee..... well I would if I feel brave enough to cut the sockets off and hardwire a new piece of cable into the camera. Time will tell lol.

The conduit only feeds straight into behind the fascia boards, then it's bare cable across the loft into the DVR.

Thanks for that. Gonna buy 16mm and 20mm and decide when i come to do it. I have a longish run down the side of the house after coming through the hole, so won't need conduit i don't think, although i do like yours though, a very neat and clean install!

16mm will do it, but I used 20mm because it was the right size for the conduit.

Check out my photo a few posts up.

Haha, Just as I thought!

I almost pulled the trigger on a 16 x 400mm drill bit, but you've thrown a spanner in the works saying you used 20mm.

http://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-masonry-drill-bits-16-x-400mm/72338

Was 20mm plenty big enough?

A bloody big one - I used 20mm with 20mm flexible conduit from Screwfix.

What kinda drill bit do we need to drill a hole big enough to feed cable through brick wall with plugs attached?

Just run new cat5e and pop plugs on both ends.

I kept the cables exactly as they were, probably could cut them and join but why risk invalidating the warranty?

I have set up temp to confirm all working and now just planning on cable routeing. I know that its not difficult to fit new ends onto standard ethernet cables but are these cables different because it would be a lot easier to route the cables if I only drilled small holes to pass the cable through. Any help much appreciated.

I'm using the ZViewer app, it's basic but works.

What's the best app for viewing the streams on an iPhone?

Annoyingly, just checked mine and there's a MASSIVE spider creating a web straight in front of the bloody camera.

Nice one...

Thanks for the suggestions guys, I quite like the idea of mounting the camera to the front cover of the box.

I considered those but they're quite small, and I wanted to mount the camera to the front cover.

Didn't like the fact the covers didn't screw on.

Hi
Best to use junction boxes to secure the connections. Something like this http://www.screwfix.com/p/4-entry-junction-box-with-knockouts-grey-65-x-65-x-45mm/63295?kpid=KINASEKPID&cm_mmc=GoogleLocal-_-Datafeed-_-Electrical%20and%20Lighting&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%20Listing%20Ads-_-Sales%20Tracking-_-sales%20tracking%20url&gclid=CJmJ18uK-80CFbYK0wodx3wFHg

I bought these:

http://www.screwfix.com/p/ip55-enclosure-grey-85-x-75-x-65mm/33991

Cut a slight groove in the bottom to be able to pass the cable through, and used glands/flexible conduit.

See below for a photo of the finished article:

What
's everyone doing about weatherproofing the outside connections? The wife is complaining about the plastic bags I've temporarily used.

It's running nice and cool now I've moved the router off the top of it.

Very happy for the price, can't go wrong.

If you get anywhere with that frontend, stick it on GitHub. Would be useful for myself, and I'll contribute where I can :wink:

Looking good.

My NVR is in the loft and it's been a hot day, router was sat on top of it too.

I'll see how hot it is later, but it's running nicely.

Mine actually seems to be running pretty cool. Certainly no more than 30 degrees C and it has been sitting on the floor all day.

Just trying to combine my three systems now and writing a web front end so I can remote view without having to use any plugins ........

Cheers for that. Spent a couple of hours neatly installing this morning.

Very impressed, but mine seems to run VERY hot. Does yours?

Interestingly, you can get a 640x480 stream from the cameras with the following rtsp address :

UDP rtsp stream is : rtsp://192.168.1.174:10554/udp/av0_1

(replace .174 with your camera IP address).

This also has the time and date removed which is handy for feeding into other recording devices.

I found that with the monitor. My trusty old £400 Samsung from 2002 doesn't like it :disappointed:

Some observations :
Unit defaults to 1280x1024 resolution - make sure your monitor can handle that.
Software for monitoring via web interface is restricted to Internet Explorer and flaky at best. Sometimes a few refreshes of the page kicks it into action. You need to use their supplied OCX to view it.
RTSP video stream can be viewed by anyone on the network without a password.
TCP rtsp stream is : rtsp://192.168.1.174:10554/tcp/av0_0
UDP rtsp stream is : rtsp://192.168.1.174:10554/udp/av0_0

Doesn't play nicely with Motion or Zoneminder out of the box.

Live555Proxy server helps with above but still experimenting with it - I've got Motion for Linux happily recording the streams from the NVR though through Live555

There is software available from their website at http://surveillance.zmodo.com/4-channel-all-in-one-spoe-nvr-kit-w-1tb-hdd-1.html - this will let you view the cameras live and playback events without having to go through Internet Explorer.

Arrived, can't mess with it until Sunday though :disappointed:

Zmodo do have a customer service presence in the EU and seem to be quite good at swapping stuff out under warranty.

I've just created a eNote with ebuyer so I'll see what they've got to say first.
Thanks.

Best you can do is contact buyer and see what they say. Or try live chat direct with zmodo:

http://www.zmodo.com

They do have a EU RMA system in place, but not sure if it covers this particular system:

http://eu.cctvfocal.com/rma

Again it doesn't work that way with this system. The system isn't using standard PoE connectors, so a normal PoE camera connected directly or via an injector won't work. The wiring is not the same. It's the NVR that makes the propriety signal available to other ONVIF compliant apps. If you can't connect the new camera to it, hows it going to work?

A standard PoE camera should work with an injector if it is ONVIF compliant.

Best you can do is contact buyer and see what they say. Or try live chat direct with zmodo:

http://www.zmodo.com

They do have a EU RMA system in place, but not sure if it covers this particular system:

http://eu.cctvfocal.com/rma

I don't think you can with this system. It's already been discussed earlier on. The system here doesn't use normal PoE, it uses its own version of sPoE and most likely will not work with a standard PoE injector.

It's definitely not the wires as I've attached it directly to the unit in the house with a short cable that I'd used to test it the previous night in my front room. So I know the cable works and the camera doesn't.

In all fairness, the system is ONVIF compliant, although you'd need a POE injector.

If the camera was working prior to installation, you may have damaged one of the wires. This is the disadvantage of these cheap propriety systems - if a camera fails in the future you can't even replace it with a different brand.

As Ebuyer are sold out, I can't see you having any chance of getting one camera swapped out.

But, as you had it all working last night, I'd say it's more likely to be a cable faulty or config error.

I think my nightmare is about to begin. I tested the system out in my front room last night and all was working well.
Today it took me 4 hours to install outside and obviously when I get to the final camera it wasn't working. So I've got a full install done with only 3 working cameras. I'm going to ring ebuyer tomorrow and I bet they say I need to send the whole system back. Obviously I want them to replace the 1 faulty camera so this could get interesting..

Has anyone had a similar situation when you don't want a full system replacing just a single faulty part?

We shall see, it's being delivered to work so hope it's tomorrow as there's no one there on a weekend.

Yep, same here! Hopefully it'll be here tomorrow

Doesn't look like mine has got to Yodel yet so no chance of delivery today. Damn.

Now shipped! :smiley:

Yodel never fail to amuse me, so I get home to find a delivery card saying "we've left your package with a neighbour". When I go round and get the package off my neighbour there is a massive red sticker all over the box stating "Do not deliver to neighbour".
Classic Yodel.

As for the system I'm very impressed, and for the price it's impossibly good value.

No issues at all connecting remotely via DDNS on my Android device using TinyCam (not using the zmodo app or creating an account with them)

Cool, no movement on mine yet. Did you get email confirmation when it was dispatched, save me having to check the website every 5 minutes :smiley:

Mine's just been dispatched!

Glad it's not just me!

Mine is still processing, paid via PayPal, free delivery

Mine turned up today too :smiley:

I used a debit card and chose free supersaver delivery :smiley:

Mine is still processing!

How did you pay and what shipping method?

:disappointed:

Mines arrived today :smiley:

Disappointingly mine was paid by PayPal and I didn't get a "Payment processed" email until Monday.

Still shows as processing order. :disappointed:

Standard 5 day free supersaver.

Yodel now have my system according to their site and they are just giving it a good kicking before delivering it on or before the 14th :wink:

What shipping method did you choose?

Same here......

Which shipping method did you choose and when was it shipped?

Mine has been shipped by Yodel .......

*edit - although the Yodel says it is still waiting to receive them.

Mine still says processing order too, payment has been taken

For the people that grabbed one of these, what's your order status?

I chose the 5 day shipping, but thought Ebuyer normally shipped the same or next day anyway?

Mine's on "Processing Order".

An official comment from Zmodo about sPOE cameras on POE switches ......



I've decided to keep this system if delivered - handy as a backup to my main system.

You are the Willy Wonka of home networks..carry on

I'm after some CCTV, no idea how to set it up though

Just got a y-cam, but this looks great for the price, shame it's OOS

Willy waving aside, it appears that once you have these hooked up to the supplied NVR, it is possible to use third party software running on your PC (i.e. Blue Iris) to enhance the system - there are some interesting reviews on Amazon which support this.

And replying directly to that ...... I help maintain a network which has hundreds of devices on including a number of POE switches hooked up to various CCTV kit. I also spent 4 years as an IT manager then worked as a contractor for 12 years maintaining various networks, servers and IT infrastructure. I'm experienced in Novell, Microsoft and Linux networks and run my own Linux email and web servers from home for fun. These also run software called "motion" which capture and analyse video from my four current analogue CCTV cameras which go through Linux machines via capture USB sticks streaming through mjpeg-streamer as well as a couple of webcams which are a little easier as they directly support the mjpeg protocol.

I'd say I have more than a basic knowledge of how this kind of kit works :wink:

Dam. Watching YouTube about setup and missed it. Doh!

I have a fair knowledge if networks and network cameras - I ran my own IT company for a number of years and I'm a Senior Electronics Engineer.

The supply to these cameras is 19v straight from the NVR according to the manufacturer replying to posts on the forums on the zmodo site (see my post on Page 1). Genuine POE runs at >44v.



Also by Googling the actual part number of this kit (ZP-KE1H04-S-1TB) you can get more information ........

http://surveillance.zmodo.com/4-channel-all-in-one-spoe-nvr-kit-w-1tb-hdd-1.html

The cameras used are : ZP-IBH15-S1

Some interesting conversation on this thread :

http://community.zmodo.com/t/question-about-zp-ke1h04-s-zmodoe-spoe-simplified-poe-system/62/3

A Zmodo representative says :



This is what I based my comments above on and also the fact that the RJ45 plug has a total non standard wiring scheme to a normal 10/100 schema

I managed to get one as my first CCTV! I hope the order isn't cancelled as this seems very reasonably priced from what I gather from most posts. I'm fairly new to this so hopefully this will be an easy set up and starting point despite the fact that the cables and whole unit are proprietary to ZMODO only as others have flagged up.

Quick question to the experts. If I don't connect the PVR to my router or internet at all, will the cameras still still record and store data? Or am I right in assuming that the internet bit is for cloud storage, viewing away from home etc if I want those functions?

I don't think these cameras can actually do what you're suggesting.

They use sPoE, NOT standard PoE. According to a Zmodo support forum, they will only work if connected directly to the supplied NVR.

http://kb.zmodo.com/index.php?solution_id=1333


You can assign each camera an ip address to access it via other apps, but it still has to physically connect via the supplied NVR.

OOS...

That reply was to 'bbdom'

What a nonsense statement, You have little knowledge of networks or network cameras, those cameras can be connected to any pc via router and poe injector without the dvr

Additionally, you could log into each camera individually and change the ip

Just vga no hdmi or am I missing it . Great deal op

bargain voted hot

nice

10 Base T (10Mb) and 100 Base TX (100Mb) require 2 pairs (4 wires) - 1000 Base T (gigabit) require 4 pairs (8 wires)

i've read a few user forums where they report the email alerts don't work since Zmodo is pushing their app and online storage.
Not much use having a security camera that doesn't report movement properly.

looks like a good deal.....nope to late...ive hit the buy button. :smiley: also 6% quidco too . I wanted to update my old 60gb system

I have one of these and the software is pretty poor, the web interface requires activex and doesn't work at all on any of the boxes i've tried...
You can view live video using a mobile app or vlc.
You can also use their cloud app, but that requires opening up your video feeds to their server in china which i'm not sure i would trust.
Personally i keep this isolated from the internet on its own non routed vlan, to which i can vpn and view the streams using a mobile app. Not ideal, but workable given how cheap these are.

Only 2 wires is standard for 10mbit ethernet, 4 wires for 100mbit and 8 wires for gigabit. The device itself has a built in switch, and 10mbit is more than adequate for a 720p stream.

Great
Is some guy asking about a 4 m poo n this deal

Given that the going rate for 1TB SATA drives seems to be around £40, you're effectively getting a network-accessible NVR, 4x 720p cameras and cabling for £60 - seems a deal to me :smirk:

Ordered and heated

Great deal, ordered, i'm moving house soon and wanted to add CCTV to the alarm system i'm taking with me for a little added peace of mind, this seems like a great way to do it, have some heat

Can i put the box up in the attic and run one cable from my router up to it in the attic?

I've recently been looking to upgrade my 5 year old 600tvl system but had decided not to as I'm tight. But at this price for 720p poe, with 1tb hd thrown in, I couldn't help myself.

Hopefully it will be worth it.

that's basically half price. I bought this for £200 from zmodo ebay last year.

sPoE is not the same as PoE. There is a significant difference.

A question about CCTV in a deal thread about CCTV is irrelevant is it? Who put you in charge?

Set one of these up a while ago, fantastic bit of kit.

Seem to remember it was around £249 then.

The NVR provides power to the cameras. You can only use the cameras provided with this (or another ZMODO) NVR as they appear to be specifically wired to communicate with this NVR.

If one of your cameras breaks, you cannot plug in another brand POE compatible camera - it will not work. This NVR provides sPOE which does not comply with the normal POE standard.

The cameras that are supplied with this have their own proprietary protocol and wiring. If you try and plug one of these in to a switch that provides POE, it will not work.

Normal Ethernet requires a minimum of 4 wires for TX and RX data, these cameras transmit their data over 2 wires so goodness knows what kind of interface or protocol they are using.

So ........ bottom line .......

If the NVR breaks, your cameras are useless.
If a camera breaks, unless you can buy another Zmodo camera, you lose that camera and can't replace it.

Too many uncertainties for me so I've asked eBuyer to cancel my order.

If however you are after a fairly decent standalone system and are willing to take the risk that the whole system could be obsolete if the NVR develops a fault then it is a reasonable buy.

looks decent

Hi, Thanks for the info, much appreciated :-)

so does the switch provide the power to the camera as i thought most routers/switches do not support PoE devices? CCTV system are new to me so unsure about their setup. appreciate any knowledge on this

anyone recommend an poe cam need to be 4mp minimum setup 2 cams mim cheers

http://kb.zmodo.com/index.php?solution_id=1333

Looks like a pretty non standard system set up. The cameras use sPOE and only two lines in the CAT5 for "data transmission"

http://community.zmodo.com/t/question-about-zp-ke1h04-s-zmodoe-spoe-simplified-poe-system/62

Don't expect this to work with any other cameras or the cameras to work with any other NVRs without the supplied NVR being involved .......

Still a good price for a standalone system for most people.

Great price - ordered (although I have 4 DVRs and 20 cameras now .....)

Maybe time for multiple redundant CCTV networks ........

good deal have some heat

That's a bargain for Poe

that is a pretty good price for a complete poe setup, shame its not 1080p but still good.