Says GTX 970 in title?

If someone wants to build their own gaming rig...

(rather than paying over the odds to have a worse system with less support from the people who actually make the parts in their machine)

I offer free impartial advise and will even help you build it yourself remotely via Skype or similar service. Just PM me.

It's the same case, so most likely yes.

Thanks, that is good to know. Will it be the same issues with this system? http://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-enthoo-pro-m-i7-6700k-4.5ghz-z170-gtx-1070-8gb-gaming-pc-corsair-liquid-cooled.html

How much are the replacement fans costing you?

The CPU fan is quiet but the case fans are extremely loud. I have had to order new ones.

Good to know. Just out of interest, how loud is the system, I hear that the corsair h45 can be a bit noisy? Cheers.

​what part of gtx 970 u finding hard to understand?

Just an update. My order of this arrived today but it was fitted with a 550w psu and not the 650 as advertised on the website. There's not a huge amount of difference in it though and the overall power consumption of these parts should mean the corsair can handle them fine. I called sales team who have agreed to rectify their listing and refunded me the difference between the two models.

I can't pm you (says I'm not active enough) but also looking for the same?

Thanks for the informed opinion, I am as you describe a 'unknowledgeable buyer'.

over priced, slow RAM, redundant watercooling as it would either need to be bigger or you wouldn't see an advantage over air cooling but it will be noisier, psu looks generic and is a mere 500w.
number 1 reason not to buy? lack of information on the actual components... generally means cheapest used like the watercooling and the psu. looks flash to catch the unknowledgeable buyer.
You could throw a stone in any direction and hit a better deal.

What do people think of this i7 from ebuyer:
http://m.ebuyer.com/749684

What? CPU, mobo and GPU are £520. You can get ram, psu, case and everything else for £60?

Sorry dude but no. A 1080 isnt enough to give a consistent 4k60 across most titles. The 970 is a 1080/1440p card.

Nice system. If you have 4K 60hz panel then this rig should be able to run games easily at that level. Turn off AA as it not needed at 4K and this releases system resources. This rig should run GTA 5 at 4K with everything just about cranked up to max(AA off of course)

Here's a review of one of their systems with very similar spec to the offer.
Different Case, a specific branded GPU but everything else more or less the same.
AWD-IT Alpha Doom Review

Very similar to the machine I have just built for my son. The price of my machine was very similar to this one and so if you want an easy option rather than spending a lot of time working out what to build, then this may be the option for you.
We currently use the internal graphics on the chip as we run out of money for a graphics card. We will add the card later, but it is perfectly capable of playing CS:GO on max settings and that is all my son is concerned about at the moment.
As others have said, boot from an SSD drive and not a HDD. This will give the biggest performance boost.
The chip itself has an unlocked multiplier and so is geared towards overclocking. Be careful of putting too much weight (air cooler) on the Skylake chip though, if that is the way you decide to go. Google it if you don't know.

Nope. The noisiest fan in my pc is the radiator fan

Great price OP, heat added.

Actually very difficult to build a similar spec computer right now yourself for the same money.

I'd be tempted if it wasn't water cooled. Water cooling is such a gimmick and the only person I know who has had a water cooled PC pre-built went back to air cooled as soon as it leaked inside his case and wrecked his graphics card.

The maintenance required to change the water and keep it clean is time consuming compared to sucking dust out of an air cooled case.

This all in one liquid cooler is very cheap and not a 'performance' or 'enthusiast' part at all. I would not recommend overclocking on it, it will be noisy and hot.

You are much better off with a quality air cooler fitted with one or two 120mm fans. I have a corsair h60 on my i7 4790k and it is nothing special.

What he said, I would agree that 650w gold is average wouldn't use anything less than gold myself. also you tend to find voltage on the rails can be a little off/wonky on the cheaper power supplies, not a big issue on an office pc (admin) but on anything that can and will get maxed like gaming, CAD, Media Production, heavy stuff in other words its a bad thing.

Around this sort of price. I have a i7 4790K and a RX 480. At 1080p am getting 60+ FPS with almost all settings on high.

Now thats a beast!

Quick Amazon search has this at £745 for the components, obviously shopping around can get you way cheaper but that's a damn cheap pre-build

It's quieter, more efficient cooling means you can run the radiator fan at a low RPM but it's not a silent solution. Pumps make hardly any noise whatsoever, the people saying they do either own terrible coolers or are talking from their ****.

PM me

How does this compare to the AWD ?

http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/yoyotech-warbird-rs10-gaming-pc-i5-6600k-quad-core-nvidia-gtx960
http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/warbird-rs10-skylake-gaming-desktop-pc

only reason i`m asking is that the Warbird up until last week cost £639 but has now shot up to £729.99 , apparently, i`ve been told because of Brexit and the £ to $ exchange rate

Cracking - tempted!

Kind offer.... I might take you up on that!!! What sort of budget are we talking for a decent rig which will play games like GTAV on decent settings (not 100000FPS at 9K!!). :smiley:

Considering the calibre of the components (which are top of the 'mid range' e.g. i5 6600k, GTX 970) it's surprising to find such a cheap PSU. PSU's are classed by efficiency (plus, bronze, silver, gold, platinum, titanium), where inefficiency is where waste heat is generated and more power wasted (ie less efficient PSUs generate more waste heat). Keep in mind for now that in gaming PCs, you want to minimize heat generation.

By using a low end PSU (the 'average' these days at 650W is gold, there is a measurable difference between the two see here. That 7% will mostly be heat and considering that this isn't a 'value' build, it is fairly surprising to find such an entry level component.

its a good deal because its cheap, but the whole build looks cheap.

clever marketing lol

I've just bought this and just wondering whats wrong with the Corsair VS650?

£120 more expensive than building yourself then have to add a GPU to get the benefit or bottleneck it.

I have to vote hot but...
price to performance I really cant argue with this deal because you get good bang for your buck for one you don't have to build yourself.
however I quite enjoy building, and as someone who does there are just a few parts that make me sad
1) that psu, come on, its just bad.
2) they have an option to buy it with a HDD, no self respecting gamer wants a HDD.
3) they try to sell you wifi with it, no wifi option should be present on a gaming machine. people are being confused into thinking wifi is ok to use in games and its not, those people have high pings and are not welcome on my team in any game.

Just to clarify wifi is for phones, tablets, laptops, fridges, other random IOT, but never ever ever for a gaming desktop.
and why have an option to have a HDD which would be awful but not an option to have a better PSU which would be sensible?

If someone wants to build their own gaming rig...

(rather than paying over the odds to have a worse system with less support from the people who actually make the parts in their machine)

I offer free impartial advise and will even help you build it yourself remotely via Skype or similar service. Just PM me.

Does liquid cooled mean it's silent?

I tell you what, the I7 version with a GTX1070 is a cracking deal for £1,000
Enthoo Pro M I7 6700K 4.5GHz Z170 GTX 1070 8GB Gaming PC Corsair Liquid Cooled

​My bad was checking the description

I've just built a similar 6600k build.
I've got a better psu, double the ram, better cpu cooler and a way better PSU.
(Also have a 1tb hdd and 240 ssd).
All in all £860, so about £90 more expensive for the above, but ofcourse, i have to build mine.
Imo, for someone who doesnt want to put their own pc together, Its a decent deal and you can just add extra ram / change psu at a later date.

I'll add some heat :smiley:

Actually a really good deal, which is surprising for a prebuilt gaming PC.

1tb hdd (7200rpm) is fine can always add an ssd later if you need one, don't need 16g ram for gaming, 8g is plenty. Only thing I would add is the WiFi card, but thats personal preference.

expensive considering the parts used

Gaming pc with no graphics card?

I have an i5 4590 and a zotac gtx 970 in my pc just now and even with that being slightly outdated now it achieves really nice fps on all of today's games on high and sometimes ultra settings. This pc is far more up to date so I can guarantee u will achieve great fps on ultra settings on today's games. It's a nice price for a prebuilt machine.

Swap the hard drive for the 1tb ssd for £27 more.