- Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M
- Power Supply: Corsair VS650 650W Bronze Rated PSU
- CPU: Intel Core I5-6600K Overclocked to 4.5Ghz
- Dedicated Graphics: Nvidea GTX 970 4GB GDDR5
- Motherboard: Gigabyte Z170 Gaming K3 Motherboard
- Cooler: Corsair H45 Liquid Cooler Included
- RAM: Corsair Veangeance LPX 3000Mhz DDR4 Dual Channel Kit - Options Available to Upgrade
- Hard Drive: Your Choice of Primary and Solid State Drive
- Sound: Realtek ALC1150 115dB SNR HD Audio
- Network: Killer™ E2200 Gaming Network
It's worth upgrading the primary storage to an SSD, adding a secondary 1tb drive and adding 16GB RAM, comes to £770.
Obviously it's cheaper to build it yourself but for those that are not that confident in doing that this is a really good deal.
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moneybag to rubel101
6 Jul 164#8
Says GTX 970 in title?
ollie87
6 Jul 163#18
If someone wants to build their own gaming rig...
(rather than paying over the odds to have a worse system with less support from the people who actually make the parts in their machine)
I offer free impartial advise and will even help you build it yourself remotely via Skype or similar service. Just PM me.
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misa426
6 Jul 16#1
Does liquid cooled mean it's silent?
Mathaeus to misa426
6 Jul 16#2
No.. Unfortunately :disappointed:
Mathaeus to misa426
6 Jul 16#3
The main advantage is being able to push your cpu a little more before melting point.. Most people won't need 'water cooled systems' unless you 'need' it aesthetically speaking :smiley: as they take up less room that's for sure but in terms of true stealth as in quiet 'and' unseen.. Not so much :s
Syst3mzero to misa426
6 Jul 16#17
quite the opposite, air cooled and water cooled both use air cooling as both use fans, watercooling just moves where the air cooling is being done but that adds the noise of a pump.
the reason why many people believe its quieter is it is more efficient than many air cooling solutions so the fan doesn't need to spin up as fast however when compared to a Hyper Evo 212 smaller watercooling systems like the Corsair H45 don't perform quite as well, cost more, and make more noise.
a Corsair H110 (larger radiator) makes more noise but just slightly outperforms a Hyper Evo 212.
however if you want quiet and budget is no restriction Noctua NH-D15 http://www.ebuyer.com/663815-noctua-nh-d15-dual-radiator-quiet-cpu-cooler-with-two-nh-a15-fans-nh-d15?mkwid=s7L5WYdHi_dc&pcrid=51508048139&pkw=&pmt=&gclid=CPiv__6j380CFeUy0wodvY8CFg
More so a hybrid SSD, so not fully SSD (still a small speed advantage over the conventional hard disks)
Although personally I would go for the 1x 120GB SSD as primary and a 1TB secondary, with the 16GB upgrade for the extra £70 as stated by OP.
I just did a quick calculation of all components with their cheapest prices on Amazon.Since it doesn't state which GTX970, I went with the Zotac at £199, it came to around £695.
For those who don't wanna build their own this is actually a very good price. The GTX970 is still worthy of playing the latest games at respectable performance!
rubel101
6 Jul 16#6
Gaming pc with no graphics card?
moneybag to rubel101
6 Jul 164#8
Says GTX 970 in title?
dave7herave
6 Jul 161#7
I have an i5 4590 and a zotac gtx 970 in my pc just now and even with that being slightly outdated now it achieves really nice fps on all of today's games on high and sometimes ultra settings. This pc is far more up to date so I can guarantee u will achieve great fps on ultra settings on today's games. It's a nice price for a prebuilt machine.
philjstephenson
6 Jul 162#9
expensive considering the parts used
adam0812 to philjstephenson
6 Jul 16#10
GPU, CPU and MOBO are £520. £180 for everything else doesn't seem bad for those not wanting to build.
Zooms
6 Jul 16#11
Actually a really good deal, which is surprising for a prebuilt gaming PC.
1tb hdd (7200rpm) is fine can always add an ssd later if you need one, don't need 16g ram for gaming, 8g is plenty. Only thing I would add is the WiFi card, but thats personal preference.
dave_2245
6 Jul 16#12
I've just built a similar 6600k build.
I've got a better psu, double the ram, better cpu cooler and a way better PSU.
(Also have a 1tb hdd and 240 ssd).
All in all £860, so about £90 more expensive for the above, but ofcourse, i have to build mine.
Imo, for someone who doesnt want to put their own pc together, Its a decent deal and you can just add extra ram / change psu at a later date.
Misread as 6800k, was reaching for my credit card for a minute!
ollie87
6 Jul 163#18
If someone wants to build their own gaming rig...
(rather than paying over the odds to have a worse system with less support from the people who actually make the parts in their machine)
I offer free impartial advise and will even help you build it yourself remotely via Skype or similar service. Just PM me.
Syst3mzero
6 Jul 16#19
I have to vote hot but...
price to performance I really cant argue with this deal because you get good bang for your buck for one you don't have to build yourself.
however I quite enjoy building, and as someone who does there are just a few parts that make me sad
1) that psu, come on, its just bad.
2) they have an option to buy it with a HDD, no self respecting gamer wants a HDD.
3) they try to sell you wifi with it, no wifi option should be present on a gaming machine. people are being confused into thinking wifi is ok to use in games and its not, those people have high pings and are not welcome on my team in any game.
Just to clarify wifi is for phones, tablets, laptops, fridges, other random IOT, but never ever ever for a gaming desktop.
and why have an option to have a HDD which would be awful but not an option to have a better PSU which would be sensible?
DuWolfy
6 Jul 16#20
£120 more expensive than building yourself then have to add a GPU to get the benefit or bottleneck it.
Yat
6 Jul 16#21
I've just bought this and just wondering whats wrong with the Corsair VS650?
yoyo59
6 Jul 161#22
its a good deal because its cheap, but the whole build looks cheap.
clever marketing lol
shopperofwindows
6 Jul 16#23
Considering the calibre of the components (which are top of the 'mid range' e.g. i5 6600k, GTX 970) it's surprising to find such a cheap PSU. PSU's are classed by efficiency (plus, bronze, silver, gold, platinum, titanium), where inefficiency is where waste heat is generated and more power wasted (ie less efficient PSUs generate more waste heat). Keep in mind for now that in gaming PCs, you want to minimize heat generation.
By using a low end PSU (the 'average' these days at 650W is gold, there is a measurable difference between the two see here. That 7% will mostly be heat and considering that this isn't a 'value' build, it is fairly surprising to find such an entry level component.
frakison
6 Jul 16#24
Kind offer.... I might take you up on that!!! What sort of budget are we talking for a decent rig which will play games like GTAV on decent settings (not 100000FPS at 9K!!). :smiley:
only reason i`m asking is that the Warbird up until last week cost £639 but has now shot up to £729.99 , apparently, i`ve been told because of Brexit and the £ to $ exchange rate
ollie87
6 Jul 161#27
PM me
milky228
6 Jul 16#28
Quick Amazon search has this at £745 for the components, obviously shopping around can get you way cheaper but that's a damn cheap pre-build
It's quieter, more efficient cooling means you can run the radiator fan at a low RPM but it's not a silent solution. Pumps make hardly any noise whatsoever, the people saying they do either own terrible coolers or are talking from their ****.
willlucas
6 Jul 16#29
Now thats a beast!
ocelot20
6 Jul 161#30
Around this sort of price. I have a i7 4790K and a RX 480. At 1080p am getting 60+ FPS with almost all settings on high.
Syst3mzero
6 Jul 16#31
What he said, I would agree that 650w gold is average wouldn't use anything less than gold myself. also you tend to find voltage on the rails can be a little off/wonky on the cheaper power supplies, not a big issue on an office pc (admin) but on anything that can and will get maxed like gaming, CAD, Media Production, heavy stuff in other words its a bad thing.
JS94
7 Jul 16#32
This all in one liquid cooler is very cheap and not a 'performance' or 'enthusiast' part at all. I would not recommend overclocking on it, it will be noisy and hot.
You are much better off with a quality air cooler fitted with one or two 120mm fans. I have a corsair h60 on my i7 4790k and it is nothing special.
omgpleasespamme
7 Jul 16#33
I'd be tempted if it wasn't water cooled. Water cooling is such a gimmick and the only person I know who has had a water cooled PC pre-built went back to air cooled as soon as it leaked inside his case and wrecked his graphics card.
The maintenance required to change the water and keep it clean is time consuming compared to sucking dust out of an air cooled case.
JS94
7 Jul 16#34
Great price OP, heat added.
Actually very difficult to build a similar spec computer right now yourself for the same money.
quertbarbie62
7 Jul 16#35
Nope. The noisiest fan in my pc is the radiator fan
smallsteve
7 Jul 16#36
Very similar to the machine I have just built for my son. The price of my machine was very similar to this one and so if you want an easy option rather than spending a lot of time working out what to build, then this may be the option for you.
We currently use the internal graphics on the chip as we run out of money for a graphics card. We will add the card later, but it is perfectly capable of playing CS:GO on max settings and that is all my son is concerned about at the moment.
As others have said, boot from an SSD drive and not a HDD. This will give the biggest performance boost.
The chip itself has an unlocked multiplier and so is geared towards overclocking. Be careful of putting too much weight (air cooler) on the Skylake chip though, if that is the way you decide to go. Google it if you don't know.
owens2000
7 Jul 16#37
Here's a review of one of their systems with very similar spec to the offer.
Different Case, a specific branded GPU but everything else more or less the same. AWD-IT Alpha Doom Review
mark6226
7 Jul 16#38
Nice system. If you have 4K 60hz panel then this rig should be able to run games easily at that level. Turn off AA as it not needed at 4K and this releases system resources. This rig should run GTA 5 at 4K with everything just about cranked up to max(AA off of course)
adam0812
7 Jul 16#39
Sorry dude but no. A 1080 isnt enough to give a consistent 4k60 across most titles. The 970 is a 1080/1440p card.
adam0812
7 Jul 16#40
What? CPU, mobo and GPU are £520. You can get ram, psu, case and everything else for £60?
over priced, slow RAM, redundant watercooling as it would either need to be bigger or you wouldn't see an advantage over air cooling but it will be noisier, psu looks generic and is a mere 500w.
number 1 reason not to buy? lack of information on the actual components... generally means cheapest used like the watercooling and the psu. looks flash to catch the unknowledgeable buyer.
You could throw a stone in any direction and hit a better deal.
mundax
8 Jul 16#43
Thanks for the informed opinion, I am as you describe a 'unknowledgeable buyer'.
ant5246
10 Jul 16#44
I can't pm you (says I'm not active enough) but also looking for the same?
hunterchan
12 Jul 16#45
Just an update. My order of this arrived today but it was fitted with a 550w psu and not the 650 as advertised on the website. There's not a huge amount of difference in it though and the overall power consumption of these parts should mean the corsair can handle them fine. I called sales team who have agreed to rectify their listing and refunded me the difference between the two models.
alibokhariabbas
14 Jul 161#46
what part of gtx 970 u finding hard to understand?
Goose74
15 Jul 16#47
Good to know. Just out of interest, how loud is the system, I hear that the corsair h45 can be a bit noisy? Cheers.
Yat
16 Jul 16#48
The CPU fan is quiet but the case fans are extremely loud. I have had to order new ones.
Opening post
- Power Supply: Corsair VS650 650W Bronze Rated PSU
- CPU: Intel Core I5-6600K Overclocked to 4.5Ghz
- Dedicated Graphics: Nvidea GTX 970 4GB GDDR5
- Motherboard: Gigabyte Z170 Gaming K3 Motherboard
- Cooler: Corsair H45 Liquid Cooler Included
- RAM: Corsair Veangeance LPX 3000Mhz DDR4 Dual Channel Kit - Options Available to Upgrade
- Hard Drive: Your Choice of Primary and Solid State Drive
- Sound: Realtek ALC1150 115dB SNR HD Audio
- Network: Killer™ E2200 Gaming Network
It's worth upgrading the primary storage to an SSD, adding a secondary 1tb drive and adding 16GB RAM, comes to £770.
Obviously it's cheaper to build it yourself but for those that are not that confident in doing that this is a really good deal.
Top comments
(rather than paying over the odds to have a worse system with less support from the people who actually make the parts in their machine)
I offer free impartial advise and will even help you build it yourself remotely via Skype or similar service. Just PM me.
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the reason why many people believe its quieter is it is more efficient than many air cooling solutions so the fan doesn't need to spin up as fast however when compared to a Hyper Evo 212 smaller watercooling systems like the Corsair H45 don't perform quite as well, cost more, and make more noise.
a Corsair H110 (larger radiator) makes more noise but just slightly outperforms a Hyper Evo 212.
however if you want quiet and budget is no restriction Noctua NH-D15
http://www.ebuyer.com/663815-noctua-nh-d15-dual-radiator-quiet-cpu-cooler-with-two-nh-a15-fans-nh-d15?mkwid=s7L5WYdHi_dc&pcrid=51508048139&pkw=&pmt=&gclid=CPiv__6j380CFeUy0wodvY8CFg
I got a COOLERMASTER Hyper 212 Evo and then added noctua fans after a few months to make it quieter (ends up almost costing as much)
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/components-upgrades/pc-fans-and-coolers/coolermaster-hyper-212-evo-rr-212e-16pk-r1-120-mm-cpu-cooler-10118422-pdt.html
Although personally I would go for the 1x 120GB SSD as primary and a 1TB secondary, with the 16GB upgrade for the extra £70 as stated by OP.
I just did a quick calculation of all components with their cheapest prices on Amazon.Since it doesn't state which GTX970, I went with the Zotac at £199, it came to around £695.
For those who don't wanna build their own this is actually a very good price. The GTX970 is still worthy of playing the latest games at respectable performance!
1tb hdd (7200rpm) is fine can always add an ssd later if you need one, don't need 16g ram for gaming, 8g is plenty. Only thing I would add is the WiFi card, but thats personal preference.
I've got a better psu, double the ram, better cpu cooler and a way better PSU.
(Also have a 1tb hdd and 240 ssd).
All in all £860, so about £90 more expensive for the above, but ofcourse, i have to build mine.
Imo, for someone who doesnt want to put their own pc together, Its a decent deal and you can just add extra ram / change psu at a later date.
I'll add some heat :smiley:
Enthoo Pro M I7 6700K 4.5GHz Z170 GTX 1070 8GB Gaming PC Corsair Liquid Cooled
(rather than paying over the odds to have a worse system with less support from the people who actually make the parts in their machine)
I offer free impartial advise and will even help you build it yourself remotely via Skype or similar service. Just PM me.
price to performance I really cant argue with this deal because you get good bang for your buck for one you don't have to build yourself.
however I quite enjoy building, and as someone who does there are just a few parts that make me sad
1) that psu, come on, its just bad.
2) they have an option to buy it with a HDD, no self respecting gamer wants a HDD.
3) they try to sell you wifi with it, no wifi option should be present on a gaming machine. people are being confused into thinking wifi is ok to use in games and its not, those people have high pings and are not welcome on my team in any game.
Just to clarify wifi is for phones, tablets, laptops, fridges, other random IOT, but never ever ever for a gaming desktop.
and why have an option to have a HDD which would be awful but not an option to have a better PSU which would be sensible?
clever marketing lol
By using a low end PSU (the 'average' these days at 650W is gold, there is a measurable difference between the two see here. That 7% will mostly be heat and considering that this isn't a 'value' build, it is fairly surprising to find such an entry level component.
http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/yoyotech-warbird-rs10-gaming-pc-i5-6600k-quad-core-nvidia-gtx960
http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/warbird-rs10-skylake-gaming-desktop-pc
only reason i`m asking is that the Warbird up until last week cost £639 but has now shot up to £729.99 , apparently, i`ve been told because of Brexit and the £ to $ exchange rate
It's quieter, more efficient cooling means you can run the radiator fan at a low RPM but it's not a silent solution. Pumps make hardly any noise whatsoever, the people saying they do either own terrible coolers or are talking from their ****.
You are much better off with a quality air cooler fitted with one or two 120mm fans. I have a corsair h60 on my i7 4790k and it is nothing special.
The maintenance required to change the water and keep it clean is time consuming compared to sucking dust out of an air cooled case.
Actually very difficult to build a similar spec computer right now yourself for the same money.
We currently use the internal graphics on the chip as we run out of money for a graphics card. We will add the card later, but it is perfectly capable of playing CS:GO on max settings and that is all my son is concerned about at the moment.
As others have said, boot from an SSD drive and not a HDD. This will give the biggest performance boost.
The chip itself has an unlocked multiplier and so is geared towards overclocking. Be careful of putting too much weight (air cooler) on the Skylake chip though, if that is the way you decide to go. Google it if you don't know.
Different Case, a specific branded GPU but everything else more or less the same.
AWD-IT Alpha Doom Review
http://m.ebuyer.com/749684
number 1 reason not to buy? lack of information on the actual components... generally means cheapest used like the watercooling and the psu. looks flash to catch the unknowledgeable buyer.
You could throw a stone in any direction and hit a better deal.
How much are the replacement fans costing you?