no mention of nfc which would be a huge fail given android pay.

If you dont care about NFC or you can live with 3GB RAM instead of 4, i would suggest getting the redmi note 3 over this, its better in every way if your willing to do a bit of work, its almost half price if buying from china, even buying the marked up one in the UK is cheaper.then this by over £50.

The specs comparison between them has the redmi note 3 spanking this all day, benchmarks and even real world performance tests prove this, unless you really want a stockish rom without working for it or 4 vs 3GB RAM get the redmi note.

Motorola messed up putting in a snapdragon 616 in this, its barely a an upgrade from the 615

Not for me, Google Pay is insignificant as it easy enough to use my card as I already do. Or sellotape it to the back if I really want to pay with my phone.
Now to waterproof one of these is going to add considerable bulk and if you are already used to it then it will soon be missed.

*Or look a lot messier sticking waterproof tape all over it ;-)

I would say they are trying to kill the traditional G market off and push them over to the lenovo branding...

Call me an old reactionary if you like but I think I would prefer not to be able to pay for things with my phone - I lose it far more often than I lose my cards!

Features


Operating System
Android™ 6.0.1, Marshmallow
System Architecture/Processor

Motorola Mobile Computing System, including an up to 1.5 GHz Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 617 octa-core processor with 550 MHz Adreno 405 GPU

Memory (RAM)
4 GB

Storage (ROM)
64 GB internal, up to 128 GB microSD Card support³

Dimensions
Height: 153 mm
Width: 76.6 mm
Depth: 7.9 mm to 9.8 mm
Weight: 155g

Display
5.5" FHD
1080p Full HD (1920 x 1080)
401 ppi

Battery
All-day battery (3000 mAh)
TurboPower™ (charger included in box) for up to 6 hours of power in 15 minutes of charging¹

Water Protection
Water repellent nano-coating²

Networks
4G LTE (Cat 4)
UMTS / HSPA+
GSM / EDGE
Bands (by model)

Moto G Plus - XT1644
GSM / GPRS / EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS / HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (B1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 19, 20, 28, 40)
Band coverage varies by model, country, and carrier.

SIM Card
Micro-SIM, nano-SIM with included adaptor
Dual-SIM (Available via Moto Maker)

Rear Camera
16 MP
Laser auto-focus
Phase detect auto-focus (PDAF)
ƒ/2.0 aperture
Colour balancing dual LED flash
Professional Mode
Quick Capture
Best Shot
Tap (anywhere) to capture
4X digital zoom
Burst mode
Auto HDR
Panorama
Drag to focus & exposure
Video Stabilization
1080p HD video (30 fps)
Slow Motion video

Front Camera
5 MP
ƒ/2.2 aperture
Wide-Angle lens
Display flash
Google Photos

Two years of storage at original quality

Connectivity
Micro USB, 3.5 mm headset jack
Bluetooth® Technology

Bluetooth version 4.2 LE
Wi-Fi

802.11 a/b/g/n (2.4 GHz + 5 GHz)

Speakers/Microphones
Front-ported loud speaker
2-Mics

Video Capture
1080p (30 fps)

Location Services
A-GPS
Sensors
Fingerprint reader
Acceleromter
Gyroscope
Ambient Light
Base Colour

Moto Maker
Choose from a variety of materials, colours, accents and more.

I was having a look as interested but cant see the dual sim option.

no mention of nfc which would be a huge fail given android pay.

no option for dual sim on uk moto maker, perhaps this an international only option no available in the uk?

Indeed!

just checked the reviews and it definately has no nfc. Sort of a big omission from a newly released phone.

And that slams the MotoG 150quid over the MotoG budget price target.

No NFC (given they cost nowt and even the original nexus7 tablet had it way back when).
But then how would they sell the MotoX or whatever it'll be called.
And it's lost its waterproof rating ...
And..

no stereo speakers

I think the waterproof rating and stereo speakers are not so much a deal breaker as nfc due to it being a core service android now offers.

15% off with unidays but both codes don't work together. I'm tempted but going to wait for the new Vodafone devices to be announced in the UK first which should be soon as there have released them in turkey.

More likely single sim were in production first.


Not really as this is the Moto G4 Plus which is the most expensive, the Moto G4 starts at £169.00 and G4 Play will be cheaper (not sure if this will be available UK?)

It makes a mess of the line up.
Play = E
G=G
Plus just shouldn't be there and should all be in the X. Confusion in the range.


Best to wait till Tesco/Vodaphones etc get these in at proper pricing.

But OP, if you lower the internal storage, then you can only have the 2gb RAM version.

I've always been a big fan of the Moto G line - I bought the original one for my MOther as soon as it came out, but these phones are moving well away from what made the Moto G line great - solid, unspectacular specs at a super cheap price. They've gradually got more and more expensive and the 4gb plus model here is firmly in mid range territory and has very little to do with the Moto G's of the past. I guess it's all branding. After all, Motorola seem to be a long way behind Samsung and now, LG and have lots of other manufacturers snapping at their heals.

Not for me, Google Pay is insignificant as it easy enough to use my card as I already do. Or sellotape it to the back if I really want to pay with my phone.
Now to waterproof one of these is going to add considerable bulk and if you are already used to it then it will soon be missed.

*Or look a lot messier sticking waterproof tape all over it ;-)

I would say they are trying to kill the traditional G market off and push them over to the lenovo branding...

The point I was trying to make is that even on a budget device, its inexcusable to omit a component that ultimately costs very little, and is a part of the google ecosystems core functionality.

If they dropped Moto X and Moto G from the model names I might see your point, don't find it in the slightest bit confusing.

hmm IMO this is very overpriced (regardless if whether it has moved away from the originals budget raison d'être)

The spec seen here for £250 is about £50 more than it should be anyway. this or a oneplus 2?

Cold. no NFC.

Now that Moto is owned by Lenovo, I wonder what would be the quality of these phones

They have been for the last two generations as well, just dropping the Motorola branding. Only gen actually under Google was first gen...

I believe it's still the Motorola from before, just owned by a different company. Obviously there's a possibility for quality to be effected but it doesn't look like it.

Big miss by Lenovo not to include NFC in the latest Moto range. Android Pay will be expanding fast.

Everyone I have spoken to doesn't like the idea. Its not a make or break tbh

Call me an old reactionary if you like but I think I would prefer not to be able to pay for things with my phone - I lose it far more often than I lose my cards!

Any other comparable phone with 4+64Gb (or similar) available to buy in the UK at present for similar money?

Oneplus 3 perhaps due out soon? But no MicroSD slot it would appear.

Would prefer not to buy a phone from China/the Far East.

Motorola state that if you buy the 4th generation Moto G plus from their web site, then by default it will be a dual sim phone.
Also I could not get UKWELCOME10 to work for me, but it did track through Quid co instead.
Moto g plus, 32gb 2gb ram, dual sim, own choice of colours £229.

So, after all the cribbing about this phone not having this, that or the other & being supposedly over-priced, no one can suggest a similar-specced phone for the money available to buy in the UK at present?


If that's the one you went for, surely double the internal storage+ram for only ~£35 extra would've definitely been worth it, right?

Difference between this and the Moto x style? Cheers.

No NFC. No Android Pay. No wireless charging. A pointless upgrade.

People mention no NFC for android pay... Personally iv had Apple Pay since it was out, and the number of times iv used it I can count on one hand. It's seems like a good idea at first but it's a gimmick for the best part, and with contactless you can easily live without it imo

looks nice one.. will probably wait till it drops in price to some £100/used for this , until than, 3rd gen moto g what I have will do just fine for me :smiley:

great spec

I've seen alot of reviews and videos about this handset. Early batches have been suffering overheating whilst using the camera and the phone then becomes unresponsive, slow, laggy and even the camera view finder stutters. I'd wait a while till Moto fix it if they ever do

Ive just gone through moto maker and it shows out of stock. So you cant buy one anyway so all the arguing over NFC doesn't mater, ill stick with my SGS6 edge its still a better handset than this and costs more.

It looks like a nice phone.

To join lthe argument about nfc and wireless charging, I have had phones with both and phones with none and I barely ever used either, my current phone has both... I much prefer faster charging over wireless charging tbh and Android pay while it might be interesting I find it hard to imagine many situations where it may be helpful, I mean most people take their card with them, and taking the phone out is about the same effort as taking the card.

Once phones can be used everywhere normal cards can then I would agree but that does not seem to be that close in my experience... (very few smaller shops accept nfc)

Few quid more (or less if your lucky) gets you a G4.

Hmmm is it also missing a mag sensor (compass)? I'm looking for a phone around this spec and price but needs to have a mag sensor as I do alot of Geocaching.

I would of bought this if it had NFC ...Google pay is a must for me .

​.... to be AFFECTED ....
NOT effected!
Totally different words.

And NFC is not just for Google Pay - I use it with inexpensive NFC tags around my house and car to automate certain tasks. Deal breaker these days.

So take Moto X Style, remove NFC, change to a new look case and call it a new model?

Battery is rubbish. I have the X Style.

Believe me, you're just in your honeymoon period like I was 6 months ago. I made excuses for the terrible battery life.

But the simple answer is, 3000mah is terrible for this spec of a phone. Size of the screen doesn't help either. The only way I can cope now is to buy another turbocharger so I can charge at work during mid afternoon when I know the battery won't last me the way home.

Totally different phones with different specs the style for one has a bigger screen the battery life on this is great.

Snapdragon 617 - too weak a processor for the money

If this had NFC, it''d be an insta-buy. I've already got used to paying with my phone, and the bluetooth speakers aroun my house are all NFC enabled for pairing. It's a pretty stupid omission.

the vodaphone smart ultra platinum 7 is out and its about the same price but better. so get that.

Any better option in the price of Moto G4? NFC is not a must have thingy for me...

Really expensive phone for what you're getting.

You can get a Xiaomi Redmi 3 Note Pro for half the price of this.

Any best seller for Xiaomi Redmi 3 Note Pro? I don't want to order it from China...

If this had NFC I might have jumped for 1.

Price seems to be £130. Nearly £30 cheaper as compared to Moto G4 and more options too.. How are you liking it in terms of performance and battery life?

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-3-Pro-Prime-32GB-ROM-Metal-Body-Fingerprint-Mobile-Phone-Snapdragon-650/32598227866.html?

​Phone is good. All depends what you're comparing it to obviously but for £130 or whatever its an amazing phone for the money. Fast and snappy, excellent screen, good build quality etc. The only thing that's lacking IMO is the camera/video but then I'm used to the S5/S7 camera and you're not going to get that in a sub £200 phone. The main thing to avoid is the China ROM as it comes with alot of Chinese regional apps installed whereas the Global ROM has replaced it with the Google apps and is clean as a whistle.

^ Battery life is also excellent as it's 4,000 mAh. You also have power scheduling so you can set it to switch into different power profiles at different times of day. You can also schedule the phone to automatically turn itself off and then back on again at a later time to save on battery life. There's also Doze.

Defin*I*tely.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/definately-the-most-misspelled-word-in-the-english-1027403#ZqT3SaXP5kwPovTg.97

at least it isn't just me :wink:

This compared to the one plus 3 is pretty rubbish

Battery life is amazing... needed a dual sim so switched over from LG G4 which wouldn't make a day on a light use. Still got 50% life at the end of the day. Runs fine at 16gb and 2gb too.

Bargain at the price point...

If you dont care about NFC or you can live with 3GB RAM instead of 4, i would suggest getting the redmi note 3 over this, its better in every way if your willing to do a bit of work, its almost half price if buying from china, even buying the marked up one in the UK is cheaper.then this by over £50.

The specs comparison between them has the redmi note 3 spanking this all day, benchmarks and even real world performance tests prove this, unless you really want a stockish rom without working for it or 4 vs 3GB RAM get the redmi note.

Motorola messed up putting in a snapdragon 616 in this, its barely a an upgrade from the 615

oneplus 3 all the way. Had motos for ages but now you can get a bit of wizardry for 309 pounds. Really need 3 or 4ram and storage much more than 16gs these days as performance on cards is rubbish. If you upgrade the G4 plus it will cost you close to 275. Just pay a bit more and you have flagship Oneplus 3.

The Redmi Note 3 Pro has a worse camera, smaller screen, less ram and a much lower screen resolution.

But I was actually looking at incorrect specs. I think I will go for Redmi Note 3 Pro

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I will wait until they release the next version with NFC then move from my nexus 5

No interest at all in NFC, in fact I find it a pain that I cannot remove it or other bloatware from my (crap) LG G3.