Cheapest I could see on other sites was £608.99.
Others mostly £629.99.
Pre-order now before they take it down like the others.
Top comments
mrcyco
4 Jun 1612#3
I'm holding out for my triple RX 480 in CF, will spank the 1080 and save £100! GO TEAM RED :man:
tiptop33
19 Jun 163#465
got my gtx 1080 Flanders edition super happy
skykid3
4 Jun 163#125
100% of console gamers don't care, their parents pay for everything
(No joke..)
C64
4 Jun 163#101
utterly cold £560 is too much for ANY gpu, how did we get to this point where people think nigh on £600 for a gpu is even acceptable is beyond me.Probably costs them £50 to make it's not even a full copper heatsink laughable price.
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Insider9
4 Jun 16#1
If this doesn't get hot nothing else will until these start to sell for sub £500 in a few months time.
If I was in a market for one I'd be all over this one.
Great find OP hot!
thelagmonster
4 Jun 16#2
Amazing price. Just can't justify dropping >£500 on a single component.
mrcyco
4 Jun 1612#3
I'm holding out for my triple RX 480 in CF, will spank the 1080 and save £100! GO TEAM RED :man:
xela333 to mrcyco
4 Jun 163#9
At least you've got terrible AMD crossfire support to look forward to :wink:
fishmaster to mrcyco
4 Jun 161#15
Lol, you're dreaming, what a dream though lol again, 450W! and Crossfire won't be consistent in every game. Good luck though.
nomisco
4 Jun 162#4
I don't think that this would be money well spent for me as I only game at 1440p and my 980Ti seems adequate at the moment. Tempting though if I could get a reasonable return now on the 980?
mamboboy
4 Jun 16#5
Holding out for the Ti myself, the resale value of these will plummet the second those hit.
Just can't see the point of selling my 980 Ti and paying £140 extra just for ~15 more fps
Gkains
4 Jun 16#6
Prices are all over the place. Guess that's not really new for GPUs at launch but the F's Edition has lead to a lot of confusion. The AIBs are probably wondering why they should sell their better and more expensive cards for less than the F's Edition. Guess they are all watching what the other ones do.
Mind you, Gigabyte are quite capable of cheaping out on components: I remember complaints about 7950 and 7970 where after the reviews the went for a cheaper voltage control chip which meant those cards became voltage locked. Not good for extreme overclocking or for those trying to undervolt. While over-volting may damage cards, I cannot see any good reason why an AIB would disable undervolting.
emodan to Gkains
4 Jun 16#10
I had 4 of the borked 7950 windforces which I had got bitcoin mining. Dabs gave me full refunds on all 4 due to massive voltage issues. Got myself a windforce gtx 970 atm and very happy with it.
BetaRomeo
4 Jun 16#7
Usually with the launch of a new graphics card, you should wait until well after launch - a couple of months for the prices to stabilise and the first bargains to hit, or a few months for the first game bundles (my money's on November for the 1070/1080).
With the Founder's Edition ridiculousness, it's overwhelmingly true now. We've waited nearly two years. What's a few more weeks? Sell your current card and travel around Australia for a month.
treb
4 Jun 161#8
I bet your electricity bill will cost 300 pounds extra for the year. thats the problem. :smiley:
Gkains
4 Jun 161#11
Neither of them have good dual GPU support. And it's been getting worse the last 1-2 years by all accounts.
Crossfire scales better than SLI especially in 3 and 4 GPUs setups. DX12 will put a major spanner in Crossfire/SLI as now the game devs are responsible for the work. Can only see that working if the game engine developers do that work, or maybe if a future console gets a multi-GPU setup (and that would only help people running the same card or similar cards in Crossfire).
Gkains
4 Jun 16#12
Ah, ditto. Did some mining but I was able to undervolt them somewhat with the VB7 BIOS editor. Just seemed a lot of trouble compared to Afterburner or similar. But yes, at default AFAIR they ran 1.25V but were fine at 1.05V which saved around 50W or more. Excessively high voltages is something which has given AMD a bad reputation for while. This applies to CPUs and GPUs. Yes, it makes a chip more stable but is usually not required. Irony is, that AMD's CPU division has spend a lot of time trying to make the APUs do dynamic boosting, voltage control and power gating (just look at the Carizo reviews), but so far these improvements have not made it to the GPUs. Guess a limited R&D budget can only do so much. Hopefully Polaris will bring some of that stuff to the GPUs.
powerbrick
4 Jun 16#13
AMD missfire has been a joke recently.
lucyferror
4 Jun 16#14
I understand that your power supply will handle 450w just for 3 cards and you have a decent expensive main board which will handle cards? That all will cost more than your saving of 100.
MikeLondon
4 Jun 16#16
Thanks OP, ordered the Asus strix and this, will keep whichever one comes first.
lucyferror
4 Jun 16#17
Oh and I forgot that not everything will support and benefit from multiple gpu
mattturner756
4 Jun 16#18
GTX970 or GTX1070 for 1080p G-Sync gaming? currently on a GTX670 which still ain't half bad
ollie87 to mattturner756
4 Jun 16#19
Wait. No one has proper benchmarks for the 1070 or then the RX 480 yet.
washer010
4 Jun 16#20
really?
Pneumu
4 Jun 16#21
I was the same for a while, was running a 780 (non TI) when I was building a new rig, and decided to just get a 980TI anyway. Glad I took the gamble, definitely worth the extra money. Not saying you should do the same, but it can be worth it!
Just wish I could've been more patient to wait for these, but I'd still be a few months off finding one I'd go for to match my build!
Ferrari100
4 Jun 16#22
relevant for 1080 potential buyers and because people here stating the AMD 480 will use a lot of power (which is absolutely not the case).
Its really worth a watch, it's from a respected Youtube journalist.
Thanks OP. Got it for £531.99 including the student discount. Still ridiculously expensive, but it is the highest of the high-end, so you always pay a premium for stuff like this.
Spud211
4 Jun 16#24
Good deal, ordered one this morning when I saw they were finally up for pre order :smiley:. This is pretty much RRP, but other the overclockers (who have this for the same price), everyone else is charging a premium of £30-60 at the moment. Taking advantage of the demand I guess.
These cards are supposed to be released for the 10th of June but obviously depends on how much stock Amazon get - should t be a long wait anyway and the advantage of it being Amazon is you can always cancel anytime up until despatch if you do find a better deal in the meantime :smiley:
Spark
4 Jun 16#25
A lot of aftermarket cards have been delayed by one week because of Nvidia failing to supply the boards on time it seems so this may not arrive until 14th-17th.
1nstant
4 Jun 16#26
Well, I wouldnt never touch the 970, especailly when game now demand atleast 4GB VRAM. In theory the 970 does have the 4GB, but 0.5GB is slow (to make it simple). I would rather go for the 1070.
Recently, AMD and other respected journalists have said the 480 is only going to be around $200 and very low power consumption with high GPU power.
martyn_3000
4 Jun 16#27
That means having a heavy reliance on Crossfire support in games, something that's not been great in the past. You also have to hope the card scales well, not something we know yet.
ManiacUK
4 Jun 16#28
I think the power consumption will be roughly the same across the 480 and the 1070. That being said the 480 will likely be about half the price while delivering a performance roughly that of the 970 (currently £260) or maybe even better. Still it's hard to know without having any concrete details yet. All I can say is that reviews have been positive for the new GTX cards although the price point is a turn off.
Midnight Tboy
4 Jun 16#29
triple RX480...you'd have the police knocking on the door wanting to check if growing something you're not meant to be growing :smiley:
sweeten16
4 Jun 16#30
I'm waiting for a single card that can run The Witcher 3 at 60+ fps with Hairworks on at 4K :laughing:
sweeten16
4 Jun 16#31
Only 150 W compared to the usual like 300 for other amd cards so power consumption isn't a problem.
unrealeck
4 Jun 162#32
If you're expecting 3x RX 480s to be £100 less than this £560 card, you'll be expecting to get the RX 480 for £153. You might find them for that price but that would likely be for the 4GB card.
I'll just mention multi-GPU issues (especially going 3-way and 4-way) and performance scaling because I'm sure most of you will know why I mention it.
jwsg
4 Jun 16#33
I must be simple because to me there's either 1080p or 4K - for 1080p I suspect a 480 is enough and for anything more the 1080 is best choice at the mo. If you're upgrading from a 970 the 1080 will give much more improvement than the 1070 will for about £200 more. The 970 was a good option at £270 back in the day but I'm not convinced about the 1070 at £320+.
The 480 does show that a GPU needn't cost so much - even on a new process - so NVidia really are charging top price. They do seem to use less power for a given performance - the AMD design is possible more "raw grunt"
delboyd
4 Jun 162#34
Man I remember my fan boy days.
Then I realised AMD and Nvidia are raping us on price regardless of our loyalty and couldn't give a damn how much we preach our support online...
lucyferror
4 Jun 16#35
You understand that it's 150w PER CARD :man:
sweeten16
4 Jun 16#36
There's people who run triple titans/980 ti and whatnot. :stuck_out_tongue:
lucyferror
4 Jun 16#37
450W in one PC IS a problem :smiley:
BigsyBiggins
4 Jun 161#38
Trouble is crossfire sucks, most AA games these days don't have a working profile on release and some never get a properly working profile.
I run 2x r290x and will be getting a gtx1080 for 4k, about the only semi recent game where it has been flawless is GTAV most of the time I have play on a single card on release (fallout4, tomb raider, witcher 3, dark souls 3 etc etc I could go on)
But this appears moments later, I wonder which will be the better card? Id rather order from Amazon and it comes to £530 with student discount....
xela333
4 Jun 16#40
This one hands down. The cooler on this is another league
rev6
4 Jun 161#41
The 480's 150w is the maximum it can draw from the PCI-E slot and 6-pin, it doesn't mean that's how much power is consumed gaming. AMD are focusing a lot on performance/watt, at 150w it would be almost a 1080, which is much worse efficiency. It's going to be around 90/100w load so 3 of them wouldn't be too bad. No need to talk about multi-GPU support because most know how bad it is at the moment.
Buying multiple GPU's to save money on performance has been around for years. It's not new at all. Support though is getting much worse
MikeLondon
4 Jun 161#42
This one!!!! the KFA2 will be loud and most likely thermal throttle.
Majnu
4 Jun 16#43
Great price compared to the competition and a non reference card too.
davt99
4 Jun 16#44
Anyone reckon the 970 will fall in price when the 1070 becomes available?
Spark
4 Jun 16#45
Probably not. Nvidia stopped manufacturing them a few months ago.
umirza85
4 Jun 16#46
No it wont. Even dual crossfire doesnt work properly. Worst money i ever spent crossfiring my 290x's.
Spark
4 Jun 16#47
Indeed. You would be insane to choose the kfa over this for the sake of a fiver.
rev6
4 Jun 16#48
It's possible that retailers will reduce price short term to clear stock.
davt99
4 Jun 16#49
I was looking to move to the 970 so hoping they will be some stock they want to get rid of!
rev6
4 Jun 16#50
If not the 480 looks like a better card for less.
Spark
4 Jun 16#51
Except it's amd so probably not.
stepp
4 Jun 162#52
One card is always better than a multiple card setup
Lukedotv
4 Jun 16#53
I think they actually consume less power, but i doubt many games will support CF very well.
Optimus_Toaster
4 Jun 162#54
If the crossfire support isn't good then the second card won't be drawing any power at all!
tempt
4 Jun 16#55
It's known as the clown card in the ocuk forums!
jukkie
4 Jun 16#56
SORRY, I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE NOISE OF YOUR FANS!
WHAT DID YOU SAY?
jukkie
4 Jun 16#57
Did you miss the fact he said 'tripe RX 480'?
You'll find that will consume over double the power of a single GTX 1080...
rev6
4 Jun 16#58
To be fair we don't know the power consumption of a single 480 we just know the maximum power draw possible.
dolphy
4 Jun 16#59
i take it this will not work on a PCI 2.0 board a Asus M5A78L-M LE/USB3 with fx8350 to be precise . and if not can anyone suggest the best card for that board or is it simply time to upgrade .
rev6
4 Jun 161#60
It'll work.
Spark
4 Jun 161#61
That CPU would probably be a bottleneck for this card tbh.
seanmorris100
4 Jun 162#62
**** drivers too. Last time i go amd ha... rather let nvidia rip me off for trouble free gaming.
krisosbornenet
4 Jun 16#63
Great except you'll be consuming more power than the "1.2 gigawatts of power necessary for time travel!" :wink: lol
rev6
4 Jun 16#64
The 1080 is less than 200w
Chowchilla
4 Jun 161#65
bit too pricey for me, I'll be selling my 970 for a RX480 I think.
delboyd
4 Jun 16#66
It'll work yes, but will be severely bottlenecked by that 8350. You'd be better off using the money for an i5 and a 980ti.
Midnight Tboy
4 Jun 16#67
You really think that a card not being utilised for a particular game draws zero power? #facepalm
Robiow
4 Jun 16#68
A question for the pc master race
I have an overclocked i5 2500k and 16gb 1600mhz ram
If I buy this card will HTC vive work with respectable settings or do I have to get a whole new rig?
Your answer dictates if I go in for overtime or not next week
LiamSmith78
4 Jun 16#69
dual RX 480 uses less power than a 1080 i believe. a lot less wattage per performance gain
Superiordom1980
4 Jun 16#70
Heat from me but as I game at 1080p I think my gtx970 is more than enough
Spookydarren
4 Jun 16#71
I think I'm going the extra £30 for the Evga FTW due to the extra 6 pin power plug. I did have a 970 G1 card though and it was excellent...... Hmmmmmmmm
paul_merton
4 Jun 16#72
I must be seriously behind the curve - my entire gaming platform cost less than this graphics card!
Hasnaiin
4 Jun 16#73
agreed
chapchap
4 Jun 16#74
Same here but tempting isn't it :wink:
jukkie
4 Jun 16#75
AMD stated a max of 150w, some people are guessing 120-130w (can't see how it could be any less than that if we're going by AMD's performance clams).
Even at 120w, 3 cards will at best be double the power consumption of a GTX 1080, so my previous comment still stands...
seanmorris100
4 Jun 16#76
Lol that makes no sense do you plan on putting it under water? If not the g1 is better all round. So many people buy things they have no clue about.
seanmorris100
4 Jun 16#77
Everyone banging on about amd just look at everything since the 780 its nvidia all the way these days amd are just bad. I had a 7970 which was far superior hardware wise to the 680 yet the 680 was far better in game even with less fps due to the drivers being way better.
I hate nvidia pricing but it has to be paid if you wanna be happy.
rev6
4 Jun 16#78
Not much of an upgrade.
DatAlbino
4 Jun 16#79
Get a 1070, half the price and 70% of the power, looks like you'll be able to pick up 1070s for perhaps 300, 350 quid entry price?
rev6
4 Jun 16#80
The 1080 consumes 190w. Not quite double but I'm thinking more 100w going by their performance/watt statements.
jukkie
4 Jun 16#81
You are the one that clearly has no clue...
Firefly1
4 Jun 161#82
Got a Radeon 5870 series (I owned it when it was the equivalent of the 1080 back in the day - Fastest card in the world at the time :wink: ) - I take it the R480 will be a good upgrade for me :stuck_out_tongue:
rev6
4 Jun 16#83
970 to 480 doesn't look like much of an upgrade.
Ferrari100
4 Jun 16#84
Especially in DX12 games and if that new command processor improves DX11 games too.
rev6
4 Jun 16#85
If they reduced the CPU overhead in the drivers most of their GPU's would benefit
Vegeta
4 Jun 161#86
The Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 should be about £200 cheaper for 20-30% less performance.
Locknloadharry
4 Jun 16#87
I am amusingly surprised that you think you will get 350.00 for your 980 ti? To be honest.
applebyJedi
4 Jun 16#88
Will this be available for an Apple Mac?
rev6
4 Jun 16#89
And why would anyone upgrade like that. If you're running a Ti wait for the next one. Unless of course VR is important to them.
Spark
4 Jun 16#90
That's pretty much a backwards move.
Spark
4 Jun 16#91
So two thirds of the performance at two thirds of the price then. Where's the problem there?
Spark
4 Jun 16#92
This would be more than perfect for that.
Vegeta
4 Jun 161#93
I didn't mention it being a problem. Just speculating on 1070 G1 price.
rev6
4 Jun 16#94
Yep it should be fine.
Rumours of a 490 too in the future considering AMD's past. Around 1070 performance at $300. It could be rubbish though.
Spark
4 Jun 16#95
You don't need this for 1080p. Get the 1070 instead. This is a high end 2k to mid end 4k card.
Spark
4 Jun 16#96
Sorry, my mistake then. The current price estimates for that card are around £380-£400 according to the OCUK forum.
stuellis
4 Jun 16#97
Sorry but that sounds like an awful idea. The thought of crossfire drivers, I just wouldn't go there. Also it sounds like a 1080 will be stronger too but we wont know until the benchmarks are in for the 480
Spark
4 Jun 16#98
And unfortunately it probably will be. I supported amd for a long time but I finally just had to give in and turn to the dark side last year.
michaelharland
4 Jun 16#99
ordered mine, gave heat earlier this morning, great deal
hitman007
4 Jun 16#100
Its unlikely they would release only one variation of this card. I'm hopeful.
C64
4 Jun 163#101
utterly cold £560 is too much for ANY gpu, how did we get to this point where people think nigh on £600 for a gpu is even acceptable is beyond me.Probably costs them £50 to make it's not even a full copper heatsink laughable price.
rev6
4 Jun 16#102
Expensive R&D supposedly :wink:
C64
4 Jun 162#103
A top end gpu should be £300 max
C64
4 Jun 16#104
The r&d is a natural development as they go forward they haven't specifically put in billions to design this card .
This is why the desktop pc is dying out they are overcharging these days.
rev6
4 Jun 161#105
It's not dying out at all.
Plenty of other GPU's at many price ranges to buy. This isn't the only one.
jukkie
4 Jun 161#106
Voting cold on a specific card because you think the new cards in general are overpriced?
Do you actually know how this site works?
skykid3
4 Jun 161#107
Just be thankful it's Nvidia or AMD & not Apple, would be into 4 figures at least, with fanboys commenting how cheap they are
catbeans
4 Jun 16#108
That is not how economics work, they must make the design (this is a new chip set this will be very expensive), tool the factories, train employees, buy patents, spend a tonne on marketing, secure and ship international supply lines, purchase a tonne of stock. That is why anything when it is released is a higher price than down the line. Also inflation.
It is so expensive because it is the best GPU on the market with its only competition being gtx 980 SLI (2 GPUs and only on certain games) and it is better than a Titan X (£~900), so in one sense they are already a saving. Personally I won't be getting one anytime soon, but for people who want it this is beyond "enthusiast" level and is up there with insanely expensive audio equipment, full frame pro SLR/lenses, sports cars and £700 spotting scopes for bird watching.
If you are looking for a card for casual gaming then this isn't it, I don't game enough on my PC to justify the investment and i will be grabbing a single 980ti when the prices drop or maybe even a Titan X.
Gkains
4 Jun 16#109
Funny you should mention Nvidia and Apple in the same sentence...
As Nvidia's CEO keeps saying how much he admires Apple. And the F's Edition thing seems to be something Apple would try.
Actually, ironically enough Apple are avoiding Nvidia for a few years now. Aside from all the solder defects (Apple were about the only OEM who really tried sort out their customers during Nvidia bumbgate but no matter how many times they replaced those chips they would fail again as it was design fault), Apple are also rather keen on pushing OpenCL rather than Cuda. Big company politics I guess, but Nvidia do have a knack of alienating people: chances are neither Microsoft nor Sony are going to come back to them for any console deals.
jaydeeuk1
4 Jun 162#110
That £100 will be spent on the extra electric required in one week :wink:
teefa
4 Jun 161#111
It'll also come in handy if you ever need to smelt any heavy metals.
Dodge62
4 Jun 16#112
This thread clearly shows there are people willing to pay over £500 for a graphics card. Do you think the companies should hold the prices down out of some sense of social duty? Or should they just not sell high end cards at all?
delusion
4 Jun 16#113
90 percent of PC gamers don't care, their parents pay the electricity bill...
(I joke)
spark9990
4 Jun 16#114
Nvidia trying to milk this, 10 frames average difference with to 980ti. Once HBM2 (around 6 months) cards comes into effect this card will be forgotten like the 980. Well if you got money to burn, good deal. At least its not founders edition (overpriced reference cards).
Anonknowmouse
4 Jun 16#115
Lol I'll probably get just a weak, single RX480 or 1060 at some point. :smile: Regular 1070 is good value at £300, but the 1080 (especially the founders edition) is over-priced in comparison. It's been the same with every Nvidia generation.
Rambling on:
If they bring out a 1060Ti with slightly less performance than a 1070 for about £220 that would compete nicely with the RX480 (like a re-do of the 660Ti). AMD are going to kill the mid-range until a 1060 launches with the RX480 at £170. It's the same basic GPU they're putting in the PS4 'Neo' so the Morpheus doesn't suck.
mikedigitales
4 Jun 16#116
I'm not normally part of the wait and see what the next gen brings gang - but I've got to agree this time. I think the next gen will be a much, much bigger jump, I'll save my pennies and buy something secondhand or end of line this time round.
Danze1984
4 Jun 16#117
Fully expect the prices to come down once AMD enter the market, but at the minute, it's the best card on the market, and £560 for that privilege is worth it.
LotusJas
4 Jun 16#118
Out of stock :disappointed:
I want the MSI Gaming X Edition of the 1080 though.
Danze1984
4 Jun 16#119
Nope. If I want my graphics to look 10x better than a PS4/XBone, I expect to pay the premium.
Liam2349
4 Jun 16#120
Will spank the 1080... in one game, since AoTS is the only game that supports DX12 multi GPU to my knowledge, which is different to Crossfire. On the topic of Crossfire, barely any games support that either, so one of your 480s will be a paperweight in most games.
Liam2349
4 Jun 16#121
AMD isn't entering this market until Vega, which is planned for around the end of the year.
spark9990
4 Jun 16#122
You can't properly appreciate this card without a minimum 1440p 144hz Gsync monitor, otherwise you can't tell the difference on a 60hz monitor.
Spark
4 Jun 16#123
That's not true at all.
Spark
4 Jun 16#124
Its not OOS. Its been on back order since this deal was posted. The card isn't even out until next Friday.
skykid3
4 Jun 163#125
100% of console gamers don't care, their parents pay for everything
(No joke..)
Lloydinio
4 Jun 161#126
waiting for the third party 1070s
mrcyco
4 Jun 16#127
:smirk: It was tongue in cheek
In fairness tho, I could final explain to my girlfriend "why I needed a 1000w PSU in the first place"... complete with PowerPoint and a look of smugness.
vulcanproject
4 Jun 162#128
People moaning about a £560 GPU are the kind of people that would moan about an Aston Martin costing £200k.
Also you are quite free to spend £600 on a triple crossfire setup, but the difference is this £560 card will perform like a £560 card ALL THE TIME.
Whereas your £600 triple setup will perform as such a fraction of the time, often like a £400 dual setup or less, and rather too much like a single £200 setup but you still paid £600 for it. The number of games that will run like that is rather too long to list here.
spaceinvader
4 Jun 161#129
I'm not a fan of the 1080 but I'd gladly pay and extra £100 and lose a few fps to avoid the plethora awful issues associated with multi-gpu setups.
jeds
4 Jun 16#130
Some hardcore gamers in this thread!
HT UK
4 Jun 16#131
Cheers, had already pre-ordered this elsewhere for £50 more, but will swap to Amazon
Spark
4 Jun 16#132
Two things have amazed me about these cards over the last week.
1. Enough people have surplus income to chuck around that OCUK's 1080 back order list is now over 1000.
2. A deal thread including one of these cards at over £550 has reached the top of the day list on here.
Proof enough I think that discontent with the consoles has possibly never been higher than it is now. Also, the state of the economy probably isn't quite as bad as some of the media and politicians like to say that it is.
Panda221
4 Jun 16#133
Will wait for the ASUS Strix GTX 1070, which will give more bang for the buck !.
Or proof enough that there is still a market for high end GPUs, which has been the case for a long time now...
fishmaster
4 Jun 16#135
The 2008 subprime financial crisis was engineered so that a certain group of people could get very rich and they certainly did at the expense of millions of people. Anyway for some people myself included 8 years on from the crisis we have money to spend again.
The GTX1080 is the best performing GPU out there, the price isn't great for the tier it's in, but people are all too keen to forget that it beats the Titan X which costs £750+ and the memory is also faster performing than the Titan X.
Lastly consoles have some exclusive titles which the PC doesn't. I bought a PS4 just to play Uncharted 4, which is the best game I've ever played, as an experience currently nothing touches it, and somehow they made the graphics better than anything I've seen on PC including Rise of the Tomb Raider. A quite staggering masterpiece of gaming.
Gkains
4 Jun 161#136
Well, or this appeals to 1% who have never had it so good? That or, expensive graphic cards have a certain appeal to people who want to relive their youth a certain mid-life gaming spend. Safer than motorbikes and convertible cars. So despite my dislike of Nvidia, if they keep racers of the roads they are doing something good :stuck_out_tongue:
Spark
4 Jun 16#137
Be careful though, Asus provide appalling warranty services in Europe.
Spark
4 Jun 16#138
Isn't it only a given that it should be spec'd higher than the last generation though? Otherwise what would be the point in releasing a new generation at all?
Spark
4 Jun 16#139
OCUK have said that this generation has attracted more customer attention than any before. When the 1080 sales went live at 2pm last Friday, their website almost buckled under the traffic load.
fishmaster
4 Jun 161#140
Well it performs better than anything in the last generation, the actual complaint and it's a valid one is that it doesn't fit in the price bracket according to it's naming designation, so it's significantly more expensive than the GTX980 although it comfortably beats it on performance. We'll see what AMD comes up with and if this card can dip below £500 this year.
I suspect most people will be buying either the AMD RX480 or GTX1070 this year depending on whether they game at 1080p or 1440p and also for some people that want VR.
fishmaster
5 Jun 162#141
Asus in my experience are a bunch of t*ssers. They have a staggering amount of arrogance when dealing with the people that give them money on which they rely on to survive as a business.
I have experience with RMAs with Asus and how they manage to stay in business is a miracle. I know there will be people that haven't had issues, but I really dislike the arrogance of this company, I refuse to buy anything that has the name Asus on it.
Gkains
5 Jun 161#142
Oh, keep meaning to say this: got to hand it Nvidia's PR as their presentation for the GTX 1080 was really good as so many people are using the Titan X's price to justify this despite that once the aftermarket 980 Ti models came out, the Titan X was pretty much obsolete. Aside from the 12GB of memory (wonder if Nvidia forbade the AIBs or fused something off in GM200 to prevent AIBs from releasing 12GB versions of the 980 Ti), it had nothing going and could not compte with people who overclocked their 980 Ti.
Spark
5 Jun 161#143
You're totally right and considering how the reports of a 1080ti look genuine, I can only guess that will end up being this generation's Titan equivalent and 1080 will actually be the 980ti replacement.
They could of course release some 16GB DDR5X behemoth designed for max 4k on a single card and priced at around 2 grand next year but I don't even nvidia would be hard faced enough to something like that.
Spark
5 Jun 16#144
Fortunately the only GPU RMA service I have had to endure so far was gigabyte's and it was simple enough although they forced me to pay for delivery both ways and took the best part of 3 weeks all in.
To be fair though I only had to go through that because the retailer let me down. With Amazon that shouldn't be a problem. Warranty is something that you really need to consider with PC parts though. I was going to get an inno3D 1080 yesterday and then I read up on their warranty service and thought better of it.
Spark
5 Jun 16#145
Based on this early German presale leak, expect to pay £380 to £400 for a launch 1070.
What are MSI GPU's like quality/reliability wise? As well as KFA2? Overclockers have have a KFA2 Reference version for £525 with 2 year warranty or a MSI Aero (reference) for £534 but with 3 year warranty.
Optimus_Toaster
5 Jun 16#147
Both cards use the PCB in the founders edition. So reliability is the same. Coolers will probably be quite loud and ineffective.
Ricky302
5 Jun 16#148
3 fps difference at 4K between this and my 980ti on Unigine Heaven, not much of an upgrade.
rev6
5 Jun 16#149
It's really not for 980 Ti users.
Spark
5 Jun 16#150
MSI are fine. I wouldn't go for the kfa2 version unless you have plans to cooler mod it yourself. That stock cooler is likely to be completely ineffective for the task. Like putting Ford Focus wheels on a McClaren F1.
vulcanproject
5 Jun 161#151
Luckily trouncing the 980ti roundly by >20 percent @ 4k in actual game benchmarks on launch drivers is a bit more important than some non playable tech demo.
BetaRomeo
5 Jun 16#152
Interesting. Source?
BetaRomeo
5 Jun 16#153
The difference between 1080P and 2K is nearly zero... :confused:
xZEDx
5 Jun 16#154
I love it when these numbnut fan boi's go all out war mode such fun reading for 10 mins LMAO...
RED & GREEN will never care they just want our money.
Why does a GXF card cost more than a hole PC???? just baffles me.
rev6
5 Jun 16#155
Then buy a £560 PC and be happy. There's hardware in all price ranges. Purchase the ones that you want/need.
xZEDx
5 Jun 16#156
only if u knew what i had LMAO...
just saying GFX cards are over priced, thats all :smile:
rev6
5 Jun 16#157
The suspense is killing me. Tell us what you have.
xZEDx
5 Jun 16#158
something thats just perfect for my needs.... i dont advertise my e--------****....
Probably means 1440p, of which the difference is definitely not zero.
Spark
5 Jun 16#161
That's not true at all.
hitman007
5 Jun 16#162
I changed from 1080p to 1440p some time ago and you can see difference straight away. Have you experienced it?
xenole
5 Jun 16#163
Beats me what people actually play games wise.
There seems to be nothing these days that really grabs me and half of what is released, either doesn't require anything that powerful or is so badly written, it's still flaky even with lower settings.
fishmaster
5 Jun 16#164
What a shame it's missing a VGA port :wink:
fishmaster
5 Jun 16#165
You're seriously suggesting there's no decent games out there?
I quit gaming in 2007 and started again occasionally around 2013-2014. I've just played Uncharted 4 on the PS4 which is the best game I've ever played, which I've said so many times on this forum, it must get boring. I've also enjoyed Crysis 3, Dying Light, The Witcher 3 is just absolutely fantastic as well. I tried Elder Scrolls Skyrim and didn't like it and also tried Fallout 4 and didn't like it.
Uncharted 4 was another league of amazing for me, I've never played a game so good, I literally (in the correct sense of the word) was sitting there jaw dropped at many moments in the game.
I want to try Rocket League next, I missed the Humble Monthly bundle that contained it which has enraged me so much, I need to go and shoot things in Doom on the PS4! Why do I have Doom on the PS4, well it cost me £10 when I bought a bundle at GAME otherwise I'd have it on the PC.
GAVINLEWISHUKD
5 Jun 16#166
Well 1440p is regarded as 2.5k. But I would prefer if people use the resolution.
sprite127594
5 Jun 16#167
I agree these new gpu's are priced too high. Its not NV's fault it's the people rushing out to buy them which drives prices high.
I play at 1080 and my 290X lightning pretty much maxes all games and cost me £215 new.
Before anyone says the 290X costs a trillion pounds a day to run I measured the power draw of both the 290X and a 970 I had and it used between 0-80 watts more then the 970 while gaming.
MadonnaProject
5 Jun 16#168
Guys how does this compare to the R9 390 8GB? Is it much more powerful? Which one to get considering the price difference.
krakpot
5 Jun 16#169
I was tempted to pull the trigger on this then noticed the single 8 pin power connector. I want a custom card with 8+6 at least.
08sam1
5 Jun 16#170
Its funny how they first bring out the card at a rip off price then after a few days they change the price to the normal price it should've been, then everyone thinks its hot and theyre getting a really good deal.
jwsg
5 Jun 16#171
Sad when this is pretty much the cheapest decent 1080 around. It is NVs fault that prices are where they are - but limited supply is bound to push prices even higher. If you want to run 4K then you need this much power but I suppose people get caught up in hype and forget that this costs more than twice what a 970 was.
The 480 is OK for 1080p gaming but it does show that it's possible to sell a GPU for a sensible price - rather than nearly £600.
BetaRomeo
5 Jun 161#172
Yes, I certainly have experienced 1440P, and I agree that there's a noticeable difference.
I'm not sure of the relevance, though - what's that got to do with 2048 × 1080 (aka 2K)?
Gold Feet
5 Jun 16#173
Be prepared to pay through the teeth from now on for the latest and greatest and the hobby in itself of keeping spec up to date.
Contrary to PC sales being in decline, the DIY gaming market is growing fast.
Manufacturers have admitted it has much better margins for them and many are moving towards fancy gaming kit. Some of the new cases are obscene.
Also look at the naming conventions of the top gaming products, all aimed at teenagers, how an earth do they afford it.... 'Fury' Samurai' 'Tactical' 'Fatal1ty' 'Pro-Gamer' 'Rampage' 'DeathAdder' They've even brought back Keyboards favoured by programmers in the late 1980s called them 'QuickFire' and charge up to £150!
"With the gaming market growing more popular, monitor brand vendors, which have been seeing declining profits, have also entered into the gaming market."
"PC monitor shipments have been suffering from declines and price competition has also grown fiercer. In addition to large-size and niche products, monitor vendors have found business opportunities in gaming monitors. Despite limited shipments, their high prices and gross margins are expected to benefit vendors' profits."
"Because of the high gross margins offered by gaming PCs, not only brand vendors are competing for the market fiercely, their ODMs are also eagerly looking to benefit from it."
"The gaming market has been growing fast, with China, South Korea and Russia having established e-sport as official sport events. They have been stepping up efforts to boost the market's development."
BetaRomeo
5 Jun 161#174
In the context of required GPU power, there wouldn't be a perceptible difference in performance between running a game at 1920x1080 (1080P) and running a game at 2048×1080 (2K). Recommending someone skip the GTX 1080 for 1080P but then suggest it would be better for 2048x1080 is a bit silly, to say the least! :innocent:
jwsg
5 Jun 16#175
I don't know where this assumption came from that having another connector (on my PSU lead it's just in parallel anyway) was necessary or will make any difference. The reference board was designed by Nvidia so I would trust them over what I read in forums. The efficiency and noise of the fans however is worth waiting for reviews before buying.
noss88
5 Jun 16#176
G1 is no longer top from gigabite only 1x8pin the extreme version got 2x8pin wchich im Gryfino when will be under £500 now 670 lol they kidding with price now
Mabutu
5 Jun 16#177
I have an i7-2700k @ 4.2GHz, Z68 chipset, 16Gb RAM, 2x240Gb SSD, GTX 680. Is it worth buying the GTX 1080 to play @ 1440p, or will my setup bottleneck 1080? TIA.
afroylnt
5 Jun 16#178
Pretty sure it will; like all high end cards....
Majnu
5 Jun 16#179
The muppets at OCUK deleted my post and all I wrote was :
Idiots who love to price gouge! You should have seen the price they released the FuryX at which was £200 more than Scan. Don't know why people are so loyal to them when they shaft you with prices.
shkapars
5 Jun 16#180
it wount bottleneck it but its not worth the money if you game on 60hz 1440p monitor, also looking at your current setup you have already skipped few gens so keep on that track and instead just pick a second hand 980 for around 230£ or 980ti for 300£ and it will keep you happy for another few years without braking your bank.
tempt
5 Jun 16#181
Scan no saints either, they have the G1 listed for £629.39
tempt
5 Jun 16#182
Scan no saints either, they have the G1 listed for £629.39
FRZ
5 Jun 16#183
Hold out for the new GPU they said, it will be cheaper and better than all current cards they said.
Gkains
5 Jun 16#184
To be fair, I think most people meant it will drive down the price of the old stuff. While the GTX 1080 has the usual over-the-top Nvidia price, the $200 of AMD's RX480 should drive prices down at the level of the R9-380/GTX960 and R9-390/GTX970. Even the GTX1070 should do that eventually once F's Edition nonsense is over and the price comes down towards the supposed $379 price.
Spark
5 Jun 16#185
The almost religious-levels of loyalty expressed on that forum never cease to amaze me if I'm honest. Its almost like a lot of them have forgotten that OCUK is a business and instead see OCUK as some sort of charity worthy of their dedication and patronage, even at the expense of their own wallets.
If that's what they want to do though then leave them to it. Means more stock at the likes of Amazon for the rest of us.
MadeInBeats
5 Jun 16#186
Most future game development being based around AMD consoles and opensource Vulkan API... it's more a reality than a dream.
Spark
5 Jun 16#187
What are you talking about? Of course it is.
Spark
5 Jun 16#188
Nope. If that was going to happen then it would have done already since both the Xbox One and PS4 use an AMD APU-based design. Those consoles came out in 2013 and here in June 2016 9/10 new PC games are still booting up with the Nvidia logo at the start and are optimised for Nvidia hardware.
Believe me, I wish that you were right but unfortunately you're not.
Spark
5 Jun 161#189
Ugh. :neutral_face:
MadeInBeats
5 Jun 16#190
Currently, they might. But Vulkan offers massive performance gains over GameWorks (which Nvidia were basically forced to now make opensource because of the threat of Vulkan) & DX12 for both GPU & multi-core CPUs...
Vulkan will soon be the API of choice, Nvidia will now no longer be able to artificially manufacture bottle-necks in non-Nvidia GPUs or cards of Nvidia owners who they want to force into upgrading.
"Vulkan is still a ways off; right it's about what it might be rather than what it is. But with Google adopting Vulkan for Android, and the likes of Unity, Epic (Unreal Engine), Valve (Source 2), and Dice (Frostbite) lending a hand, expect improvements to come thick and fast." ~ Feb. 2016
AndyCooper66
5 Jun 161#191
R&D is not free. I would venture that manufacture is a small price for any tech - why do you think knock-offs are so cheap? And since when does a manufacturer provide a decent heat-sink?
They have got expensive and I can only think, more and more $$$ getting put into R&D, more advanced parts, and well, supply and demand, monopolisation with AMD/Nvidia etc.
I currently use a GTX 980ti I paid £440 for last year, which was a bargain since it was £500-600 everywhere else. Before that I had a GTX 670 which cost £320. Before that I used two GTX 560ti, £200 each, before that GTX 275 which cost £150. I keep paying more and more for these GPUs.
I sold the GTX 275 for £100 (£50 loss). The GTX 560 ti, one I returned and got all my money back, the other I sold for £150 (£50 loss). The GTX 670 I sold for £90 (£230 loss). The GTX 670 is now worth about £60-70 on eBay which is concerning. The GTX 980ti... I really wonder how much it will sell for when I upgrade. I will be disappointed if it is worth less than £250 in a year or so, but I can see that happening. That would make GPU's the worst investment, high purchase price, use it for a year or two and then expect to lose 60-80% what you paid. I'm always going to be tempted to buy the latest and greatest as are others. I don't ever go for the cream of the crop enthusiast parts, I try to buy what I think offers the best price/performance in the current "high end" range.
BluesFanUK
5 Jun 16#195
How much is the 1080ti going to cost then? Maxwell Titan price?
OnlyJoeKing
5 Jun 16#196
Being disappointed if it plummets in price somewhat overlooks that we've seen a big leap, first die shrink in 5 years. I went mid/upper range for my new PC for this reason last year. Went for an R390...
Out of interest how have you sold your cards in the past? I've seen lots of stuff about people getting screwed by ebay recently. Am hesitant to flog an expensive item there like a GPU! Have my sights on the new Vega range next year, with I didn't have to wait but having bought a 3440x1440 freesync monitor these Nvidia cards are sadly out of the question.
danjames922
5 Jun 161#197
You advertised a competitor on their forum, are you really that dense?
Nate1492
5 Jun 16#198
I'm confused as to what you are trying to show here.
It sounds like he's ripping into the bad slide and breaking down the 480 and telling you that it is no where near the performance of a 1080, nor the performance of the 1070.
Forget any ideas of the RX480 of being a competitor to the (1080) and by extension, it is also nowhere near the 1070.
Anyway, he goes into a long winded video after this about assumptions on what AMD are trying to do.
Nate1492
5 Jun 161#199
You should book that OT and get the card. That CPU will not bottleneck the 1080, you have enough RAM.
Spark
5 Jun 16#200
Weren't you also the guy who predicted that the Wii U would take off? :smile:
Spark
5 Jun 16#201
Honestly, I expect so. Budget £800 to a grand for that one.
Gkains
5 Jun 161#202
The only problem with that is that Nvidia's margins have been increasing each year for the last few years. They just seem good at getting people to part with their money. Irony is, lots of people who bought the hype of something like GTX 670 subsequently bought a 780 or a 970. All of these cards are aged very poorly compared to their AMD equivalents. Take a look at these two TPU ratings (but note that many models have disappeared from the second one, so instead pay attention to the GTX 680 which morphed into the GTX 770 (ish) and the 7970 GHz which morphed into the R9-280X):
April 2013:
May 2016:
In 2013 the 7970GHz was just over 4% faster, in 2016 the R9-280X is over 46% faster (41/28). Plus, 3GB is still usable in a lot of modern games while the 2GB versions of the 670 and 680 run out of memory. Other cards are similar (watch the R9 290 overtaking the GTX970 and AFAIK the one the TPU chart is the reference design which throttles!).
But, rather than thinking "that last Nvidia card I bough sure aged poorly, I won't buy one of theirs again", people go and buy a new Nvidia card. The serial Nvidia upgraders (GTX680, GTX780, GTX780Ti, GTX980, GTX980Ti and now GTX1080) have gotten poor longevity with each of those card but coming back for more. Amazing!
Spark
5 Jun 161#203
What they should be doing is looking to price match and thanking him for bringing the discrepancy to their attention.
danjames922
5 Jun 161#204
I just gave you a reason to why they deleted your post. It's pretty obvious. This is OCUK, they only care about lining their pockets. Just like any other business.
Spark
5 Jun 161#205
It wasn't my post but you're right and it's a shame that so many in the OCUK forum don't realise that.
Nate1492
5 Jun 16#206
This is simply wrong.
That's not the model NVIDIA have created at all. Gaming cards, at the high end, haven't actually went up much at all in the past 10 years.
Inflation adjust launch comparisons show that, even JUST looking at AMD's offerings, you can see countless cards that started off at $499, $549, or $599.
$499 for the Radeon 9800 XT. In 2003. That's $648 in today's world.
So, enough with the "it's so much more expensive today!!" It's not. This has always been the market.
Spark
5 Jun 16#207
The 1070 is the new 970 and the RRP is higher than the 970's RRP at launch. The prices are increasing no matter how you look at it.
danjames922
5 Jun 16#208
Inflation..
Nate1492
5 Jun 16#209
The 1070 is a stronger offering compared to the 970. It's aimed at the 980ti performance range.
The price of the 1070 is more expensive than the 970, but that's standard variations in card prices. Take a look at the history of card launch prices, they fluctuate from launch to launch based on the competition and performance slotting.
I'm not going to let you off with simply saying "no matter how you look at it" because I showed you a way to look at it that says exactly the opposite. I gave you an inflation adjusted card that launched at a higher price, in 2003, than the 1080 did today.
You don't get to just say "no, because I said so" when there is evidence you are incorrect readily available.
MadeInBeats
5 Jun 161#210
No, but even if I did make such a statement, or didn't, it doesn't make any of the info I posted any less or more relevant.
BetaRomeo
5 Jun 16#211
Huh? They made the 970 cheaper by using half a gig of slower VRAM. Did you not hear about that one, either?
Looking back, the 970 was "the new 770" (following your reasoning) but, as we all know, the 770 launched at $399.
So that's $399, $329, $379 for the last three x70 cards from Nvidia. (And the 770 does still offer quite good performance at 2K. :wink:)
Sorry, I'm not trying to embarrass you, but if you're not sure about something, you're not required to post a comment anyway.
crackshotkv
5 Jun 162#212
Inflation argument only makes sense in a vaccum. Other indirect factors like wage growth (which has been stagnant) have to be taken in to account.
seanmorris100
5 Jun 16#213
Ofc they will rip your eyes out coz they can...
The 970 is still a perfectly good card. If you have a 980ti i wouldnt bother upgrading.
The 970 has still been the best card price wise for years even with the gibbed memory.
If the 1070 is more than 300 quid they are ripping your eyes out. 300 quid or less then its fine.
The bigger the cards the lazier the devs get its all about optimisation. Look at WTW its the only TW game with 64bit support and it runs flawlessly at 60fps all day on a decent PC. This is before DX12 too.
People banging on about 3x cf setups are just dumb it doesnt scale well and has loads of driver issues. Single card setups always run best and Nvidia always do the best cards.
1080 is the best card youll get until the ti and then theyll milk the idiots that want titans. I mean look at the fools who bought the titans them the 780 spanked it lol..
600 quid for a 1080 is a rip off, if the 1070 is a tiny bit slower and half the price the 1070 is the card to go for.
AMD just fail no matter how good the hardware is, they just cant support it with the software.
We gamers lose either way ha.
rev6
5 Jun 16#214
It is much more powerful.
rev6
5 Jun 16#215
If that was the case, OpenGL would be the most used API on Windows, but it isn't.
MadeInBeats
5 Jun 16#216
Lots of games use OpenGL or have OpenGL option on Windows, don't they? Most just default to DX. Almost any game on Sony and Nintendo are OpenGL currently. Vulkan was going to be named OpenGL 5.0, but apparently Vulkan stuck because it signifies its vast differences from all other OpenGL iterations.
rev6
5 Jun 16#217
Some do sure, some have OpenGL support only for Mac/Linux. It would be great if Vulkan took off as well as you think on Windows. On Linux they don't really have much choice to use OpenGL/Vulkan, but I'm thinking more towards Windows.
MadeInBeats
5 Jun 16#218
I think the main things to remember are that it's much lower level than OpenGL4 offering notable performance gains; it has the backing of Android/Google, ID tech, Epic and Dices' engines... so they must think it has great potential and worth the investment. Hell, even Nvidia can't afford to ignore it and added driver support... that tells me they think they can't afford to be left behind.
All in all, things look good for Vulkan. Very good in fact. Not so good for OpenGL :wink:
rev6
5 Jun 161#219
It makes sense to use Vulkan over DX12. We just need to see it happen :smile:
Robiow
5 Jun 16#220
Thank you!
Majnu
5 Jun 16#221
Are you that dense that I just told a member to Google the card shown in the product listing and price? Never once did I mention Amazon or even hint "rainforest" which everyone else seems to do.
You OCUK fanboys really are some piece of work.
blinx01
5 Jun 16#222
I canceled my order with them as I don't like the fact they take the money before they even have any idea of stock delivery dates or allocated numbers. Helps that Amazon is cheaper of course!
Going to be a lot of disappointed people on OCUK when the initial batch of stock is distributed among other major European sites. People with orders there seem to think they are going to receive the vast amount of stock! LOL.
Gkains
5 Jun 161#223
Their forums are a great place for rumours and there are some very knowledgable people there (plus a lot of PC MasterRace types but they come up anywhere where people with deep pockets think they are special...), but it most certainly is not a great place for free speech.
It's like getting people to hang out in shopping centres and shopping malls as opposed to actual city centres. All looks very nice; kids thinks it's cool, no rain etc. etc. BUT it's all private property so if you have a grievance whether as a customer or someone working there, the management will be quick to tell you leave. Certainly no rights to protest, assembly or similar. Forums on merchants site's are not that different. Another space which is not public.
danjames922
5 Jun 16#224
Such a fanboy that I didn't even buy from them. Jog on.
shkapars
5 Jun 16#225
lol, not for that money when you can pick 980ti nearly half the price and can max out any game at 1440p to runa at 60fps, btw the gap isnt that big as most people imagine, only when compared against stock 980ti seems like masive performance gain over last generations, once you overclock your 980ti to close limits the gap is barely noticable and dont thibk its worst to pay 250-300£ more just for few fps especially if you are limited to 60mhz monitor!
Spark
5 Jun 16#226
Show me a 980Ti for less than £400 please.
rev6
5 Jun 16#227
They'll be talking about second hand... Fair huh.
Spark
5 Jun 16#228
Exactly. A brand new 980Ti costs almost as much as this card does.
Spark
5 Jun 16#229
Inflation my ****, its just American corporate greed, pure and simple.
Spark
5 Jun 16#230
Except it does because you were wrong, but nevermind.
MadeInBeats
5 Jun 16#231
Except I never said that, and the Wii U 'taking off' has no relevance to a discussion about graphics APIs. You're a really childish individual... I feel like people should point that out to you more. Unless you're under 18 years old, it's time to grow up.
shkapars
5 Jun 16#232
Well you must be complete idiot to buy brand new 980ti at this point when gtx1080 comes out, all second hand markets already will be and are fullfiled with barelly used 980ti under 400£ from users who are after new gen tech as soon a it hits the market and most of them will happily trasnfer warranty over to new user for peace of mind. So why pay double for 1080 that offers minimal performance gain over 980ti and will be a half of current value once 1080ti hits market!
MikeLondon
5 Jun 16#233
Has anyone contacted Amazon to see how far back ordered they are now?
rev6
5 Jun 16#234
£800 1080?
Spark
5 Jun 16#235
A more poignant question might be why pay £400 for a pre-owned last generation card with no warranty and no real chance of money recuperation if it fails?
I'm all for grabbing the occasional pre-owned or B-grade deal but surely 400 quid is a little bit too much to gamble on something like that.
Spark
5 Jun 16#236
I am extremely surprised that they're still accepting orders at this point tbh.
Spark
5 Jun 16#237
Point me to some evidence that states that the AAA games industry is suddenly going to jump ship en masse to primarily developing on the AMD platform for the pc and I'll gladly apologise.
tempt
5 Jun 161#238
Must be into thousands. It's their No.1 best seller in graphics cards.
Surprising they've kept this going, but stopped taking orders for the EVGA cards and ASUS Strix.
MikeLondon
5 Jun 16#239
I just chatted to them but they could not tell me where I was in the queue, or how many had been ordered, am also concerned that they have not stopped taking orders, probably meaning no definite amount on order.
Johnsmith12345
5 Jun 16#240
I've contacted Amazon, no ETA, potentially could be several weeks. Worth keeping an eye open for other offers.
Robiow
5 Jun 16#241
I've earned the money for one of these cards, now to earn the £700 for the vive from currys. Will wait and buy the lot in one go, prices may be cheaper then and I could consider swapping my 2500k i5 for an i7
shkapars
5 Jun 16#242
most of gpu warranty works by serial number so all second hand cards will still be under warranty for nearly 2years, and you can have them under 400£ there are few who sell for 400£ with ek waterbloks, and once they cleaned and packed up you will hardly tell any difference between used and brand new one. And if you wait a few weeks when these aftermarket 1080 will be available all over the internet, the price of 980ti will fall even lower.
shkapars
5 Jun 16#243
Where did i say its £800 for gtx1080, nearly half price doest mean half by the way, and if you do some research by yourself, insted of pointing some stipid things out, you would find a deals for £350 on msi 980ti on ebay, and if you aply your 10% off code it comes even cheaper, or you can go for other option and meet the seller and pay in cash if locally, saving on postage and avoiding seller fees to ebay and paypal by noking few pound of price!
Spark
5 Jun 16#244
EVGA have supply problems. They've confirmed that on the OCUK forum.
Spark
5 Jun 16#245
Actually that's not true. Most of them will want an original proof of purchase and their terms can mean that the warranty is non-transferrable if the card is resold. The only manufacturer that offers a 100% transferrable warranty is EVGA.
Spark
5 Jun 16#246
Nice one, giving you absolutely no come back if the card proves to be DoA in that case.
shkapars
5 Jun 16#247
Nice one, some poeple are thick as brick, and cant figure out anything be them selves, not all sellers are dodge as you think and sells dead stuff, you can always look at his feedback also run some stress tests before buying it, and you know where it lives, you can pay a visit afterwards if something happening and sure you both would sort it out! Anything else you want to point out!?
Spark
5 Jun 16#248
Look if you want to risk 400 quid on a cash in hand ebay purchase then go nuts but to recommend that others go out and do the same is just silly.
LotusJas
5 Jun 161#249
Wow, 13 pages of fanboy-ism and pointless arguments, with a few rare useful posts interspersed :confused:
Amazing GPU btw, and I want one :smile:
Spark
5 Jun 16#250
Tbh, it concerns me that they are still accepting orders for this. Even if their due stocks were huge, I doubt that they would be able to fulfil all of the orders that have amassed as a result of this thread.
Wilza
5 Jun 161#251
You have to remember that you're not just paying for the production cost of the item, you're also paying for the massive amounts of R&D these companies do. While I agree they're very expensive, they are enthusiast-level products. They're high-end and currently the most powerful GPUs available today. PC gaming is an undeniable better experience, but that experience comes at a premium price (at least initially). Go and buy a £300 console if you can't afford the cost of high-end PC gaming, or at least go for a mid-level GPU instead of the top-end.
Have a look at the Nvidia GTX 1070 when it's released, it has incredible performance per dollar based on the benchmarks. And AMD recently revealed a $199 GPU that has the performance on AMD's current high-end cards, it's an even better deal than the GTX 1070 (and that's coming from an Nvidia guy).
Spark
5 Jun 16#252
Amazon don't work like the likes of Scan, OCUK, Aria etc. They will divert stocks from the rest of Europe to fulfil UK back orders if they have to. They run a singular operation for Europe.
Nate1492
5 Jun 16#253
Not even close. But you can just say random hate against America in some futile argument.
You don't care for facts, I get it.
Spark
5 Jun 161#254
I don't hate America but it's also no coincidence that their products often tend to be ridiculously overpriced, especially in Europe. Look at Apple for example.
mmacarthur
5 Jun 162#255
Even at this less expensive price your steel begin fleeced by nVidia; I won't pay this sort of price for a GPU anymore, I'm done. :neutral_face:
skykid3
5 Jun 161#256
If anyone feels disgusted by Nvidia and wants to throw out their sli 980ti's can you lob them in my direction
MazingerZ
5 Jun 16#257
Meh, still not liking the improvements, come on 1080ti, I hope AMD get some ground here, I can't wait much longer!
rev6
5 Jun 16#258
Only 6+ months to go :smile:
MazingerZ
5 Jun 16#259
Seeing these benchmarks eases the pain lol
yoyo59
6 Jun 16#260
I would grab the MSI for longer warranty and most defiantly better components used
well that was just another option, if you still on puberty and live with your mum you can use the safe way and once you grow some balls and turn itno man you can use face to face option. Thies and crack addicts normally dont sell that kind of stuffs in original packaging, for that kind of money. Damn, you sound like a paranoid person who some suffered for bad expierence and now thinks that all sellers out there only waits to stab or rip you off! Its clearly not for you due to being paranoid, but there are lot other poeple that will use this kind a way just to save some money!
Robiow
6 Jun 161#262
Spark
6 Jun 161#263
I think you should probably learn how to use English properly before attempting to use it to argue with people on forums.
Your post looks like it was ran through Google Translate.
DragonChris
6 Jun 16#264
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the glorious PC gaming master race.
Spark
6 Jun 161#265
I'm not sure if Gumtree users should be used as examples of glorious anything.
shr1nes
6 Jun 16#266
I only game at 1080p and am tempted to get one as I like using DSR on my 970 to downscale games from 4K, It's better than any anti aliasing.
Nate1492
6 Jun 16#267
Do you actually believe that only American products are 'ridiculously priced' and you use Apple as that example?
Have you ever bought a BMW, Rolls Royce, or any German product?
How about French champagne?
Your statement is patently false, even though is such a generic statement.
Spark
6 Jun 16#268
No, I have never bought any of those things however it wouldn't be fair to compare GPUs to cars as there are countless manufacturers of cars where as GPUs are a 2 horse race.
shkapars
6 Jun 16#269
sorry for my english, not my first language!
shkapars
6 Jun 16#270
well in fact, dont think that anyone is good enough for you execpt yourself and by judging anything that other says is one of common move by internet "trolls" who thinks they own world behind their screens, i might be wrong but lot o thing pointed at it, and if I sell something on gumtree dont meke we worst then others. I think you need to go out in public more
oom
6 Jun 16#271
This is way too much money. £300 or so makes sense.
Nate1492
6 Jun 16#272
Wait for the 1070, it should be in your budget. Looks like it will provide 80% of the performance for about 60% of the cost.
@Spark. There are tons of other examples of non-american, premium, product pricing. I don't agree with your premise at all and think you are being unreasonable.
DragonChris
6 Jun 16#273
To be fair, I've used Gumtree a good few times (mostly to sell, not a fan of buying second hand personally) and it works out well on the whole. Each to their own as they say, I certainly wouldn't snub someone from buying something off Gumtree - you can always ask them to see it working (meeting at their house for example) or recording it working and putting it on YouTube, with sufficient evidence to prove it was a live video. I have done this before to demonstrate a console was working, and another time to show that the game I was selling worked.
Not everyone is selling dodgy/broken goods :smiley: Use your best judgement and do what is comfortable.
ocelot20
6 Jun 16#274
Thanks.
Gkains
6 Jun 16#275
Agree on the warranty length although MSI are in the Netherlands: http://forums.hexus.net/graphics-cards/204247-graphics-card-warranties-lets-see-how-good-they-really-look.html
However, quality of components is not hardly relevant with reference builds, the PCB will have been made for Nvidia (as cheaply as possible judging by the quality of the VRMs).
Anyone else noticed how many of the photos over on OCUK are renders? If the 'manufacturers' don't even have photos of their cards based on the reference PCBs it may be a long wait for those who blew £500+ on these pre-orders.
Spark
6 Jun 16#276
I honestly can't believe they're still taking orders for this thing. It's still at #1 in the PCI-E GPU category and products don't make it to the top of any best seller list on Amazon easily.
yoyo59
6 Jun 16#277
the more orders the more they make?
lol
Spud211
6 Jun 161#278
I guess that as long as they keep seeing demand, they can try and use their purchasing power to get a slightly better deal and secure a bulk load of stock in the next few weeks. They have now at least put up an extra notice to tell people a little bit more
I expect there will be a few cancelled orders - I got my order in a while before this appeared on HUKD and I expect a few hundred others will have done so too, so there is probably a huge wait list/back log too.
tempt
6 Jun 16#279
They have the same limited stock notice on the MSI Gaming X
Doogeh
6 Jun 16#280
Crossfire is out, baby. mgpu is in! ima have one AMD and one NVidia and blaze 4k!
Spark
6 Jun 16#281
Wow, that one is crazily overpriced.
Spark
6 Jun 16#282
It was the same story with my cheap i5-6600 from there last year. It took around 3-4 weeks in the end but it was worth it.
tempt
7 Jun 16#283
Have Amazon started despatching these yet?
OCUK and Novatech had them in stock earlier today!
Johnn123
7 Jun 16#284
I spoke to Amazon earlier, they have no ETA on when it will be in stock. The advisor didn't believe me when I stated that the item was up for general release, and said they would forward this information on
tjc2005
7 Jun 16#285
Just bought a barely used GTX 980 for £220, so i'll just SLi that, gone are the days I spend £500+ on a GPU.
Vegeta
8 Jun 16#286
And arrived have the days that you spend £500+ on 2 GPUs? :wink:
Spark
8 Jun 16#287
Nobody would know. People ordered them days before the URL became widespread and this thread was created. Again will fulfill them in the order of when they were placed.
dezontk
8 Jun 16#288
9800 XT My first and only ATi card. And the thing is, it was an absolutely amazing bit of kit back then and I couldn't find any issues with that nor software/drivers. Overall it's my joint most memorable GPU, alongside Ti4600.
yoyo59
8 Jun 16#289
this is a good price but
I dont see it as a good card though
this is no longer like others G1s its just moved down to the windforce class
the xtreme is now the go to gigabyte card
there's also cheaper 1080s out there
xruiner89
8 Jun 16#290
Which cheaper one would you recommend?
Spark
8 Jun 16#291
Was that meant to be an attempt at a haiku?
John1123
8 Jun 16#292
Currently Unavailable - Looks like they've stopped taking orders for now. Fingers crossed this means they're going to start getting current orders out.
tiptop33
8 Jun 16#293
Lets hope so ..its either good news or bad
with the stopping of orders could mean they may not be able to get them till mid/ end of the month looking at other retailers there stating from the 17th till the end of the month .....
All so people that have ordered this
The 1080 G1 card is really a windforce card now .... it seems the G1 as moved to the 1080 extreme shame on gigabyte doing this really...
either way for the price will still be a good 1080
John1223
8 Jun 16#294
I think they'll have them in before, it doesn't appear that they've ever had a batch yet, so hopefully they're close to dispatching.
tiptop33
8 Jun 16#295
Well that should be good news if they have not had sent there 1st batch out yet
as it seems other etailers have so lets hope ..i have noticed some Amazon reviews of the 1080 g1 so maybe it as or i could be very low in the pre order list and missed out on the 1st batch
tiptop33
8 Jun 16#296
Would be nice if any body does get email confirmation of there order dispatch to post here
jeffthealien
8 Jun 16#297
I've watched it quite closely since the g1's went up and there has never been any in srock. The buying team are going to update the Amazon listing with a date in the next 2 days.
tiptop33
8 Jun 16#298
thx for the update :smiley:
jeffthealien
8 Jun 16#299
Do you mind me asking when it was you placed your order, I'm getting so antsy lol.
tiptop33
8 Jun 16#300
Late Sunday night the 5th
OCUK had them in yesterday for about an hour or so but had to resist as the price difference was £50 for the card...
yes they may have so called good customer service ect but not at £50 more value
and to be honest Amazon have all ways been great at there service
jeffthealien
8 Jun 16#301
I ordered mine first thing on the 4th. I saw OC had them, but with discount I only paid £530, so it wasn't worth the near £100 increase.
Amazon customer service are pretty spot on, although the first advisor I spoke to didn't have a clue, just kept telling me to keep an eye on my account.
Tbh it's been pretty crappy of Amazon to keep changing their stance on availability, and it's shocking the lack of communication between the buying team and the customer service team, especially when it's a bestseller.
Spark
8 Jun 16#302
This has finally been taken off sale on Amazon now.
Spark
8 Jun 16#303
Their customer service is OK at best. It's not a patch on Amazon's, not even close.
tiptop33
8 Jun 16#304
yes you are right ...
there are many peeps that praise OCUK and OCUK themselves make such a big thing re how good there customer service is but when you look at the prices for most parts there all ways a little or alot more expensive than elsewhere ..more so the 1080 g1 ...Yes customer service is important but not £50 more important :disappointed: this is why i have gone Amazon on this purchase..
tempt
8 Jun 16#305
Ah off sale at last. I placed my order on 1 June minutes after it was listed. Hope I get it in the first batch.
Spark
8 Jun 16#306
Even if their prices were identical to Amazon's, I would still choose Amazon each and every time.
Amazon's customer service is basically second to none in this country and I don't think a company like OCUK could come anywhere near close to matching it even if they tried.
Spark
8 Jun 16#307
I would have thought you would. I didn't order mine until 4th June when I first saw it listed on here. That was just after it went hot though so hopefully I shouldn't be too far down the line.
tiptop33
8 Jun 16#308
The fact that hey price gouge alot too is not good ...
Here is an real time example of that
The stock for the Founders asus have just come in and should be at £619.99 but no OCUK gouging in at £649.99 what a joke 00
Spark
8 Jun 16#309
Yep. Ask about that on their forums and they will either delete your post or spread some cock and bull sob story about how stocks are in global short supply and they had to do a special deal with Asus just to get those. Of course their legions of devotees will then crawl out of the darkness to scorn, snarl and hiss at you and accuse you of being a troll.
The only Founders Edition really worth buying is the EVGA one anyway and that's resting on the very dangerous assumption that any of them are worth 620 quid. .
tiptop33
8 Jun 16#312
So true ... :smiley:
Funny you say that as its about to happen to me :smiley: in there now re posting let the scorn, snarl and hiss with a possible BAN commence
OCUK are as bad as the sellers on amazon with £800 for FE 1080
the sad thing is i bet they sell once the cheaper gigabyte FE sell
then the next FE say msi ..OCUK will then think hey lets increase more £679.99..... rinse repeat .....its a joke really is
tiptop33
8 Jun 16#313
The FE 1080 are not worth £620
Talk about OCUK gouging the all ready nvidia gouge asus FE card...@£649.99
My concept of the Nvidia FE card was to create a price increase its a dirty selling technique this
you have a card at what £620 the FE then everybody moans at the price then the partners come in at what £530 £599 ect and peeps think eh its a bargain and buy ..well thats if they can get one that is :smiley:
but in reality non the the 1080's should be more than £450 as the 980 was to replace it so in effect nvidia have increased the price and let the partners come in as the so called good guys basically the Nvidia FE is a buffer card for the stealth dirty price increase
Spark
8 Jun 16#314
OCUK essentially just prey on their follower's passion and lack of sensibility when it comes to their own interest and wallets.
tempt
8 Jun 16#315
The listing is back for £608.99 (reduced from £619.99)
tiptop33
8 Jun 16#316
Yes just noticed that not sure if that is a good thing or bad
Spark
8 Jun 16#317
I know that Asus pushed up the RRP of the Strix by 30 quid last week but OCUK said they would honour any pre-orders made before the price hike. This is Gigabyte's answer to the Strix so it is possible that a similar thing has happened.
tjc2005
8 Jun 16#318
I didn't buy my other gpu actually so... And I wouldn't be buying another if I had done. So please don't assume you know.
tiptop33
8 Jun 16#319
I would say the Gigabyte extreme was the strix contender ...
seems the 1080 G1 as become the 1080 windforce its a shame gigabyte have done this re the G1 but i suppose the g1 is better than reference and at the Amazon price we got it ain't a bad deal looking at all the other prices ...
All so it seems having more power connectors does not really help as most ref pcb's are hitting 2100mhz same as the strixx but once the bios as been decrypted then will see if having extra power connectors along with a bios mod does help .....some thing to look forward too i guess ...
Spookydarren
9 Jun 16#320
Any word on the release date for these? On other sites I've seen the 10th and 17th mentioned.
Well lets hope its not the end of the month or beginning of July as that would be a joke....Seems OCuk as had some stock in and all-most gone now ...was very tempted to purchase ...but i am not prepared to be paying there price ..the deal for me is this one so i will hang tight....
GAVINLEWISHUKD
9 Jun 16#326
TSMC not delivery what the promised... who would have thought! :laughing:
Spark
9 Jun 16#327
That didn't even begin to make any sense.
GAVINLEWISHUKD
9 Jun 16#328
It's just the ongoing saga of them not delivering either on time or the quantities promised on anything ever!
It's not the boards or the memory that makes the delay it's the chip supply.
Spark
9 Jun 16#329
OK but what is TSMC?
GAVINLEWISHUKD
9 Jun 16#330
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company. Sorry presumed everybody knew. They make the chips for Nvidia, AMD, Apple. With new stuff they either miss deadlines or just can't deliver as many as promised. I suspect they wanted Nvidia to push back the launch but Nvidia knew AMD were going to announce a new GPU so pushed ahead anyway.
But nobody but TSMC (apart from Intel) can handle a new process on such scale so you have to put up with it! :smiley:
Hope you get your card sooner rather than later. :smiley:
tiptop33
9 Jun 16#331
Well i have just done all three contacts via Amazon bit of a mixed bag and sometimes getting info is like blood from a stone
Live web Chat = "We have been getting a limited amount of stock from the manufacturer. However only in small batches so order will be sent to your asap depending where you are in the pre order queue"
so basically 1st come 1st served is what there saying no info on dates ect just the same spiel re confirmation email
"Unfortunately we can't provide a specific date as to when we expect this item to be in stock but rest assured we’re trying our best to obtain more stock to fulfil your order"
Email = "A definite date update will be sent to you via email by the end of today"
so will see on this and again same as above email spiel re confirmation email
Phone = Same as the live chat one above and confirmation email same spiel
So will see if any date info is sent out today
Spark
9 Jun 16#332
That's interesting. At least if that does happen today then it is way in advance of the 1070 launch so people can decide what to do. The only reason that I went for this is because I was able to get it for £525 from Amazon. I would never consider paying the full price for it.
Spark
9 Jun 16#333
I am inclined to think the Nvidia have done this on purpose as a means to sell as many Founders Editions cards as possible as those are where their biggest profit margins lie.
jeffthealien
9 Jun 16#334
The people I've spoken to on chat haven't been very helpful. When the advisor told me they'd send an email with a specific date, they stated it wouldn't be a generic response.
Spark
9 Jun 16#335
Even so, I doubt that Amazon CS personnel would intentionally tell you an untruth, especially if you were speaking with one of the off-shore contact centres. Amazon take customer service very, very seriously.
tiptop33
9 Jun 16#336
I too got it cheaper with some vouchers i had at £535 with next day deliver
If you got it that price and if you can hang on i would
the 1080 is a stronger card than the 1070 but not in terms of price per performance but it all depends on what price the 1070 comes in at my guess is £400+
After all we got this at a ok deal £560 as now its at £609+ other places more
So its just a matter of having patience if you can get by with what you have its not that bad
With the savings i made from this card instead of paying from else where the £609 i treated my self to a nice fractal case ..and still have some change for a few nice ales so win win really ..
Now where is this damn card :smiley:
tiptop33
9 Jun 16#337
Yes its hit or miss with Amazon CS ..so i will show you may email if you show me yours when they arrive :smiley:
Spark
9 Jun 16#338
Yeah I can wait as long as its not forever. My 970 is mostly doing the job apart from the occasional fps drop in Fallout 4.
The FE 1070's that will be out by this time tomorrow are going to be £400 guaranteed so for me, since the 1080 offers roughly a third more performance plus this card has an infinitely better cooling system than a FE 1070, an extra £125 is probably worth it.
Those who choose to wait for a custom 1070 will probably find themselves waiting even longer than those who want a non-FE 1080 since the demand for the 1070 is likely to be considerably higher than it was for the 1080 (and the demand for the 1080 has been insane).
tiptop33
9 Jun 16#339
It really is sad to see peeps buying the all ready gouge 1080 over at OCuk with there gouge ontop too @ £649.99...
Its just stupid
jeffthealien
9 Jun 16#340
Checking my emails every hour lol. When I email Amazon I normally get a response by early evening so I'll keep an eye out and post mine as soon as see it :smiley:
tiptop33
9 Jun 16#341
Yes its defiantly the best option for sure your fine on a 970 till it arrives yes it frustrating waiting but we have got a great deal and would be a shame to lose out not playing the wait..don't give up
One things for sure that will be a hell of a boost for you from the 970 ...fallout game will not know what's hit it :smiley:
Unfortunately my upgrade is not so good as i am coming from an G1 980 ti with bios mod at 1550 core 8100 mem but for me its all about power and being cooler so i am not expecting too much in terms of gains in fps..yes they will be a little gain but with less power and heat so i am happy with that ...
So once they decrypt the bios for the 1080 i will be all over that to see if it can be pushed a little more over 2100+ on the core will see...
Spark
9 Jun 16#342
Well the thing with FO4 is that it is capped at 60 because removing the limit breaks a lot of in-game components. For sure I plan to ENB the hell out of it though, the wasteland will never have looked so damn pretty. :laughing:
tiptop33
9 Jun 16#343
It now seems other retailers have the g1 now
scan and ebuyer have had them in stock just checking on other now ...so what is going on with Amazon ...
Spark
9 Jun 16#344
Well whenever I get Amazon dispatch notifications it isn't usually until the mid-evening (I have Prime).
I would be surprised if Amazon haven't also received them today if those other suppliers did however they have said first-come, first-served all along and I'm sure that plenty of people ordered them before this thread appeared unfortunately.
Tbh I do have a lot of faith in Amazon. They have only ever screwed me over on one pre-order and that was over 11 years ago now and did seem like an honest admin mistake at the time.
tiptop33
9 Jun 161#345
Had to resist from buying form ebuyer that was a tough one
After doing a little bit more research the cards have gone at ebuyer ...however this is not good news it now states 8 more due in 21 to 23 days :disappointed:
so the redit post about Amazon not being able to supply the cards till end of the month or July could be actually true
Well lets stay strong spark
Will see what the Amazon email brings tonight with the exact supply dates ..just got an horrible feeling its now going to be the end of the month
jeffthealien
9 Jun 16#346
Just checked my emails, no response yet. Anything at your end?
tiptop33
9 Jun 16#347
No Nada here too ...
I do not have faith to be honest and i will be surprised we get anything..but maybe me just being -
A friend of mine today is a little miffed he had made an pre order with OCuk for a evga card was one of the 1st to do so and was below 10th in the q waiting for the cards to arrive....
However He made an order for a g1 on ebuyer they had over 6 in stock at the time so he went ahead and made the purchase all was well re his order so he cancelled is order with OCuk he just been notified from ebuyer that there is a stock issue :disappointed: and that they do not have any G1's coming in till the end of the month ..well you can imagine why he is miffed ....He will now be in the bottom of the q if he reorders with OCuk
Not right is it
This whole 1080 launch is a true mess
Vegeta
9 Jun 16#348
£525 with vouchers or was that the actual price they were selling them at before the £559.99 price?
tiptop33
9 Jun 16#349
Also worth a mention is if the cards are assembled in china then unfortunately china will be on there holidays with the dragon boat festival basically a public holidays of a few days ....
Spark
9 Jun 16#350
NUS discount but they also recently messed me around on something else so they gave me a special price reduction via chat.
jeffthealien
9 Jun 16#351
Mine was £530 with NUS discount :smiley: To be honest I trust Gigabyte when they've said that stock's being sent to Amazon, so I will be really disappointed if it ends up being the end of the month, for whatever reason.
tiptop33
9 Jun 16#352
Still nothing via email how about you ?
Spark
9 Jun 16#353
You're probably right but at the same time its also not in Amazon's interest to mess you around because unlike Scan and OCUK, they won't take a penny from you until the item is dispatched and you can cancel at almost any time with a couple of mouse clicks.
jeffthealien
9 Jun 16#354
**** all, if I don't hear anything tonight, I'll message tomorrow, have a bit of a whinge and see what they'll do.
tiptop33
9 Jun 16#355
Not good just got this from em WTF
Amazon "When an item is listed as "Temporarily out of stock. Order now and we will deliver when available" this indicates that the item ordered is a little more difficult to source from our suppliers, so we can’t predict how long it’ll take to arrive. After you place your order, we'll do everything we can to get the item for you. "
Just same spiel as the other emails :disappointed:
jeffthealien
9 Jun 16#356
I received that email a few days ago. It's generic and not worth paying attention to, in my opinion. Messaged before lunch so it's looking less likely I'll hear back tonight.
tempt
9 Jun 16#357
While smaller retailers have managed to obtain stock and delight their customers, Amazon has been caught napping. Poor show!
tiptop33
9 Jun 16#358
yes it seems so ...but its more likely they have had more orders than any one of the other retails and as soon as they have they go out the door to customers so its a 1st come 1st served ....so will not show up on there site as there as been a few leaving reviews for the g1 on the site
Nvidia are to blame here with there poor chip yield by what i am hearing all in all its one hell of mess of a launch
jeffthealien
9 Jun 16#359
There's a few people on forums who ordered when they first went up (a couple of hours before me) and they have yet to receive theirs yet. I wouldn't be as fussed bit I haven't got a gpu at the moment, so it's a pain in the area this waiting.
tiptop33
9 Jun 16#360
That's no good .....be good for all of us just to have an update something at least so we know just how long ..if its going to be say more than 10 days we can all go elsewhere as we all-ready missed a few G1's from other sellers yes i know it cost more but would be nice to have are cards at least ..
I can see a fair few going for the 1070 at this rate but i suspect that's going to be the same mess around ...
tiptop33
9 Jun 16#361
If your upgrading form a 970 then the 1070 should do you fine thinking about it still a big jump and cheaper too
(Go on get the 1070 as i want your place in the Q :smiley: .. )
jeffthealien
9 Jun 16#362
I imagine the situation might be even worse with the 1070's tbh. Still no reply :disappointed:
tiptop33
9 Jun 16#363
Get onto em tomorrow then cos i think you had better luck then me as it took me 4 attempts to get any kind of unscripted response..
plus the fact you have no card so its Ra ra ra :smiley:
matedodgy
9 Jun 16#364
I can't comment so much on OCUK's customer service. But I agree with you about Amazon. I wouldn't even consider going anywhere else than Amazon for big ticket (more than £200 - £400) purchases. I am stuck in RMA hell at the moment with other suppliers. I have learned my lesson.
jeffthealien
9 Jun 16#365
Can't even use my desktop as my monitor is Display Port. Just been on Amazon chat, got a response of 'someone else is dealing with this, and will get back to you soon with a response'. Unhappy the fact that the word 'promise' was used in regards to emailing me back today, and it hasn't been followed up on.
Spark
9 Jun 16#366
I'd be very surprised if it wasn't.
This whole Pascal launch has been a complete balls up from start to finish so far.
Spark
9 Jun 16#367
I am actually tempted tbh but the problem is that unless you want a FE 1070, you're probably just going to face this same crap all over again.
tiptop33
9 Jun 16#368
Well we can all agree on one thing this is one hell of a nvidia screw up for sure....this is the worse lunch of any nvidia product thus far the 980ti was bad
but this is stupid... why do they not wait till stocks are good everywhere before launching...it would not surprise me the FE as a lot to do with it not just Chip yield ...
If the 1070 is in better stock shape it may prove that there chip yield per wafer is bad for the 1080 so that would mean more 1070 chips will see
tempt
10 Jun 161#369
Mine is on its way!
Hello,
Please be advised that we have a revised delivery date for the items you ordered on June 01 2016 (Order #xyz).
"Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 G1 Gaming Edition Windforce 3x Fan 8 GB GDDR5X PCI-Express 3 Graphics Card - Black"
Estimated arrival date: June 11 2016 - June 12 2016
tiptop33
10 Jun 16#370
thanks for the heads up looks like i am not in this batch then as i ordered on the 5th oh well think i will cancel and look else where.
Enjoy your card
Spark
10 Jun 16#371
Same here, I didn't order it until the 4th. I might just cancel it and not bother now I think.
tiptop33
10 Jun 16#372
Try and grap a 1070 2pm is the time i think so good luck
Spark
10 Jun 16#373
I am slightly tempted but I was trying to avoid Founders cards tbh plus 1070 doesn't look all that impressive to me at all. I might just not bother at all tbh, it's been nothing but hassle so far and I've kind of gone off the idea.
tiptop33
10 Jun 16#374
I know how you feel well good luck which ever option you do ....
also worth a mention
2nd hand 980 ti can be had for between £350+ seen some go less than £300 most all will have warranty too just make sure you get the original proof of purchase so to use the warranty if needed....Price may drop even more with the 1070 here..
And will give you a nice boost over the 970 and if you get a good 980ti that overclooks well then you will not be far off the heels of the 1080
just a thought
jeffthealien
10 Jun 16#375
I'm going to call in a bit an get a definitive answer. I've just been on chat and was told it'll be a minimum 24 hours before I receive any detailed information, tbh the chat service has been awful regarding this, broken promises, misinformation etc.
tiptop33
10 Jun 16#376
Good luck on that tried this morning a few time same spiel as before but go for it more pressure the better
Well i just found out that ebuyer listed over 10 + 1080 g1's yesterday on line so to purchase online was there for a good few hours and they did not have stock as all where used for pre orders yes all
peeps had ordered god knows how many my friend being one and now as had to cancel and will not see is money back to the bank for 5 to 7 days talk about a mess eh ...
They stated next lot of G1's in stock will be the 29th
matedodgy
10 Jun 16#377
That's good news though. It does mean that others further down the queue won't be far behind.
tiptop33
10 Jun 16#378
this is a great tool ...but only if the retailers have real stock and not take the p***
Ordered first thing on the 4th. Finally got a response, it seems that they had 7 in stock for those who pre-ordered back in April, and they've been posted out this week.
Gigabyte's shipment hasn't been received by Amazon yet, so it seems like the champ who posted earlier was one of the 7.
I've decided I'm gonna order a 1070 as an interim card, and keep my Amazon order for the moment.
tiptop33
10 Jun 16#381
7 cards ouch
Thanks for the info and time on this matter ..there is holidays in china at moment so if the cards are produced there expect more delay
By the time we even see are cards we may have to reconsider as the 1180 will be out :smiley:
jeffthealien
10 Jun 16#382
From looking at reviews posted in the last day, if the cards are £350 and under I might endeavour to just get one of them. See what happens come 2pm.
tiptop33
10 Jun 16#383
There was a page leak on OCuk showed up as this
£410+ FE
cheapest blower £369.99+
stix £480
seahawk h2o £550
yes 1070 will see at 2pm nvidia and the retailers are taking the P***
Well you would guess that supply of 1070 would be better as they have more time and all the wafers that didn't hit the specs for a 1080 (usually higher at start of production). But on the flip side demand will be higher as its a lower cost part so could well be difficult to get hold off.
Spark
10 Jun 16#388
Anybody who would even consider spending over £400 on a 1070 needs their damn head examined.
tiptop33
10 Jun 16#389
not good is it
....but do not worry ....nvidia's solution is go low end gtx 1060 for only £349 ouch
Spark
10 Jun 16#390
I wouldn't pay over £300 for any used card tbh since they are always a dice roll in terms of warranty.
I did have a look at second hand Titan X's on eBay but the prices are still ridiculous.
jeffthealien
10 Jun 16#391
I saw that, surely OC will reduce the price, it's absolutely ridiculous.
tiptop33
10 Jun 16#392
Its fine as long as you get the original receipt i have done it for years with my 2nd hand pc builds for sale now
and had about 3 cards i had to RMA all good no issues..
your all so covered via paypal re the purchase off ebay for upto 180 days yes 180 days
A 980 ti for less than £350 is a deal to get G1 i recommend had many with no bios mod or extra volts and most will do 1450+ easy and would be faster than a 1070 by alot so that's not a bad deal but i suspect 2nd price will go up a little with this 1070 wako price
tiptop33
10 Jun 16#393
Will not let me edit my post
the original receipt off the buyer
Spark
10 Jun 16#394
Formally only EVGA allow warranty transfers. The others either need to be worked into doing it (e.g. by you having a copy of the original receipt and pretending to be the original purchaser) or will grant it at their own discretion. I know because I had to deal with it first hand when a card that I bought B-Grade fell over a few months in and the reseller (OCUK) refused to do anything about it.
Considering that a 1070 offers 980Ti level performance only with a much healthier power draw, second hand 980Ti's just aren't worth the hassle for the sake of 50 quid IMHO.
tiptop33
10 Jun 16#395
you do not go to the retailer its rma with the manufacture done it with a fair few cards now gigabyte msi evga no problems ..
but you are right new shiny 1070 after market for less than £420 is the safer bet ...but lets see how stocks are 1st i suspect just as bad as the 1080 its frustrating the hell out of me
either way from your 970 it will be great upgrade
Spark
10 Jun 16#396
That's what I mean. The retailer didn't want to know so I had to go to Gigabyte who accepted it but charged me the best part of £30 quid all-in for RTB delivery both ways and took over 3 weeks to fix it and send it back to me and I considered myself lucky for even getting that since OCUK were such monumental arsehelmets over the entire thing.
If that was a brand new card from Amazon then I would have just had a replacement sent to me in the post or my money back.
tiptop33
10 Jun 16#397
agree Amazon there is no messing at all come to think of it most of my new purchases for the past 2 years are Amazon because of no messing around
2nd hand i go gumtree or fleabay
but 3 weeks RMA is unlucky 7 days my last one and postage sent i pay they pay the return ..the trick is not to tell them that your not the original owner so have to act the person on the receipt .. all these companies try and wiigle out of anything Amazon on the other hand seem to care and just deal with it correctly ...
Spark
10 Jun 16#398
I told Gigabyte that I was the original owner but they said if I wanted to be exempt from delivery costs then I should go through OCUK but OCUK didn't want to know so I was left with no other choice.
Spark
10 Jun 16#399
OCUK is knackered (yet another problem with that website) but the cheapest 1070 on both Amazon and Scan is £400.
Ridiculous, the Gigabyte 1070 G1 is priced at £469.99 at OCuk.
Scalping to the MAX!
tiptop33
10 Jun 16#401
Yep totally taking the **** but its like that from elsewhere .....and to think peeps have sold there 970 on ebay for £150
what makes matter worse some of the review site where saying i quote for Hexus
"Partner-made GeForce GTX 1070 cards are also on the way, said to be coming "very soon". UK residents can expect to pay £329 for such graphics cards "
not good is it
tempt
10 Jun 16#402
The cheapest 1070 is the Galax clown card at OCUK for £364.
tiptop33
10 Jun 16#403
Ocuk website is a joke 30 mins in and still not sorted it
tiptop33
10 Jun 16#404
you must be near them ....here up north the net is running on steam engines
Spark
10 Jun 16#405
So £161 less than the 1080 clown card. I'm not really sure if opting for that is just false economy tbh unless you are sure that you only want 1080p for the next couple of years.
They have the seahawk for £549 while it is £479 on amazon. Typical OCUK pricing!
Spark
10 Jun 16#409
Oh didn't you know though? They're the best. They're like the Mother Theresa of the computing world who give so much and ask so little in return.
That's according to their forums anyway.
tiptop33
10 Jun 16#410
Well if the g1 1070 is @ £469.99 at OCuk and we got this deal at for 1080 g1 £560 not that bad really that's if we get the damn card any time soon....there all still overpriced and at this rate 1080 ti will be £850+ along with there budget card 1060 at £349.99
this whole nvidia 10 launch and founders crap is really starting to wind me up do not know about anybody else
tiptop33
10 Jun 16#411
well i have just had an email from Amazon ...now hold right there its good and bad news
The bad... 1st no change in order just the same spiel re out of stock but there just notifying me that...
The good.... they have given me back the next day delivery charge so basically next day postage for free
As i am not a prime member i opted for next day ..
now i do not know how to take this is it a sign that it mean its going to take ages end of the month or are they just being good at giving me a re fund of next day postage who knows ....either way bring my total cost to under £528 so getting better :smiley:
so if anybody opted for that or wish to try and upgrade to free next day do so as it been given to me
Robiow
10 Jun 16#412
Gives a chance for more companies to get the 1080gtx in stock and squeeze the price further.
Whilst I've got the money for a 1080, I'm a couple of hundred off the vive so I'm in no rush at the moment
Spark
10 Jun 16#413
Wouldn't help me much since I have Prime and get free next day delivery anyway. What would help me though would be them delivering it to a pick up location.
jono8
10 Jun 161#414
Mine has just been dispatched and I don't even want it. Oops!
( I ordered well before this even went on hotukdeals by the way)
tiptop33
10 Jun 16#415
thanks for letting us know
send it back then and tell them i want it instead :smiley:
jono8
10 Jun 161#416
I have requested cancellation so one lucky person has been bumped up and might get one in the next few days!
fifafootball
11 Jun 16#417
shmerman
11 Jun 16#418
Gutted I missed out on this.
tiptop33
11 Jun 16#419
Not really missed owt as most of us are still waiting and by the looks of things maybe some time before all of us get are cards at this price.
More info found ...
It seems the main reason for the delay is that Nvidia are having production issues with Pascal and is looking like mid to end of July before there all stocked up ...
I quote from ICDP @ OCuk
"This adds more evidence to the speculation that Pascal released early with a large production candidate run in order to beat Polaris to the shops. This is why we see the price gouging and very little stock because Nvidia decided not to wait for a production ramp so they could stockpile 1080/1070."
his comment is going to get downvoted to hell but here goes... I tried to tell everyone that the 1070 launch was gonna suck in terms of stock. I work in e commerce and my distributors told me this fact last month.
They were told by their NV rep that NV is having production issues with pascal thus they aren't going to have any kind of meaningful stock until mid to late July. The distributors themselves are the ones bumping up the price of these cards, it isn't the reseller's fault. I was allocated a total of 5 cards at retail price not reseller price... That's why you are seeing the mark up. There just isn't enough GPUs to go around and distributors are price gauging. I just told them to go eat a fat one and will wait for stock to stabilize.
matedodgy
11 Jun 16#420
I am personally happy to wait to receive mine mid to end July. I am saving for it and it buys me a little extra time.
dr104
11 Jun 16#421
I am a bit **** off, sold the 970, got the money burning a hole in my pocket, but damn the OCUK and Scan's of this world, I am not biting until I get an aftermarket 1070 for under £350 from Amazon. It is looking like it will be late July, early August before prices stabilise (wouldn't surprise me if ended up being Sept or Oct). I am tempted to get a PS4 to amuse me until prices get sane.
tiptop33
11 Jun 16#422
Seems more & more peeps are moving over to consoles i know 11 people already that have done so becuase the price of keeping up on tech on a pc ....its seems these companies like intel and nvidia with there insane prices are shooting themselves in the foot as there will be no one left to buy as all will all be on consoles...Amd on the other hand have played it right with having there chips in both consoles ...as more consoles sale's means more Amd chips sold ....
Goldy6660
12 Jun 16#423
Many people got dispatch date yet? I ordered on 4th, have a feeling it's going to be a long wait!
tiptop33
12 Jun 16#424
Nope mine ordered late on the 5th some have been sent out but these where the early birds before us
tiptop33
13 Jun 16#425
sry guys n girls i am giving up on my order so some one can have my slot good luck getting yours....
shmerman
13 Jun 16#426
So what are people doing that are cancelling their order? Have you found an alternative source or you going for a different card/aftermarket make?
tiptop33
13 Jun 16#427
Got sick of waiting and decided to keep going with my 980ti and wait for Vega or1080ti ...i did want the 1080 for lower power and cooler operation but i am not waiting around weeks for it ...
Price drops on all New 900 range incoming in fact its happing now
rev6
13 Jun 16#428
You were going to a 1080 from a 980 Ti? Indeed it's best to wait for something better :wink:
Goldy6660
14 Jun 16#429
10days in to order and still no card this is what I've come to...
Goldy6660
14 Jun 16#430
tiptop33
14 Jun 16#431
:smiley:
Vegeta
14 Jun 16#432
This is what a paper launch is.
tiptop33
15 Jun 16#433
This is what a nvidia **** up launch is
Spud211
15 Jun 16#434
Cancelled mine today too, i'll wait and order one in a months time as it turns out my GTX960 actually does a decent job of VR, enough to tide me over.
Aria have the founders edition of the 1080 in stock btw if anyone really wants a 1080 - not a pre order.
tiptop33
15 Jun 16#435
Well the AMD RX480 is about to land well the 29th and the data thus far is showing it at above 980/ fury speeds for between £200 £230 8gb so AMD could have a winner here price perf & power
tiptop33
15 Jun 16#436
even the Jesus is waiting and hoping
rev6
15 Jun 16#437
Was that in games, or synthetic benchmark?
tiptop33
15 Jun 16#438
Its a rough estimate grain of salt scenario but its looking more and more the fact
now guru 3d is respected so good findings for the rx 470
re the RX 470 should give an idea of the rx 480 performance http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/radeon-rx-470-benchmarks.html
Rang Amazon and they contracted their buyer which took 5 days and was told thios morning Mid July for stock.
MikeLondon
16 Jun 16#441
Ouch when did you order?
tiptop33
16 Jun 16#442
Double ouch Yes I would like to know when he ordered
Its not right all this
Either way this is one hell of an Nvidia mess personally i think they have rushed this launch regardless of it being paper launch ect...
And to say pascal was never going to exist we should be on volta gpu right now but that was delayed hence we have a die shrink of Maxwell on speed with a few tweaks and being charged an arm and a leg for it ....
I think nvidia want out of the consumer market and want to be just in the science sector..
MikeLondon
16 Jun 16#443
I also have the ASUS strix on order as this is my 1st choice of card - but my understanding was that this was delayed due to an issue with the heat sink, so I ordered the G1 in the hope this would come faster, but have both on order.
Amazon however told me they are expecting the next batch of ASUS units in about 1-2 weeks.
tiptop33
16 Jun 16#444
I cancelled my order a few days ago
but a friend as an order for the same card which he ordered on the 2nd ...He too as been told this morning its Middle of July before stock will arrive.... as cancelled is order now....
tiptop33
16 Jun 161#445
Yep I am getting info from others too just now that cards are not available until July
but a few are stating MId to late July ....Crazy
Low Chip yield seems the issue and by the looks of stock nvidia have kept most of them for the founders edition wrong just wrong .....
Personally i think its a rushed launch and the partners just where not ready....Or nvidia have blatantly not given the Gpu dies fast enough to the partners to keep the founders on the shelf who knows...?
Meanwhile AMD could have good stock of the RX 480 in full swing this could also be the delay too as the partners are dealing with large volumes of this too....
yes not as fast as the 1080 1070 but from what i am hearing is the rx 480 is 980 fury speeds posibly faster but i doubt that but for £200 to £240 then if that is true that is a true bargain ...
Its allmost confirmed the RX 470 is 970 speed for £160 wow
MikeLondon
16 Jun 16#446
I have recommended a few friends on lower budgets to wait until the AMD options come out as these appear to be great value - however for me its the 1080 or nothing as I was already running 4K with x2 970s (medium / high settings). however I sold one of my 970s two weeks ago like a fool.
The single 970 powers my new oculus rift so at least with VR I am ok for a little while.
What a gargantuan balls up this has all turned out to be. I don't blame Amazon though. I blame Gigabyte and Nvidia.
moleh
16 Jun 161#450
5th June
tiptop33
16 Jun 16#451
Yep
Goldy6660
17 Jun 16#452
So...on Amazon this card is now £680 and it's expected to ship within 1-3 weeks with an estimate of the first week of July?! thats not that bad really. Seems like they really are hiking the price thought!?! crafty!
Uzion
17 Jun 16#453
£680.00 + FREE UK delivery
Usually dispatched within 1 to 3 weeks. Sold by VisionTech2000-UNITED KINGDOM
Goldy6660
17 Jun 16#454
ahhhh! that's what it is.
MikeLondon
17 Jun 16#455
This visionTech2000 probably just ordered a load from Amazon. To sell back with £100+ margin, you can see they are trying to sell the asus for £700+. Scabby f****r.
Spark
17 Jun 16#456
Let's just hope that nobody buys them then. The sad part is that after your deduct Amazon's sales commission, it would barely be worth doing that anyway. Some people are just greedy idiots these days.
tiptop33
17 Jun 16#457
Stock arrived just now at SCAN so i assume amazon will get some too good luck getting yours
Well it must have not been many as it was only in stock for less than 18 mins
But depending on there pre orders too it could have been a fair few ....
OCuk Have just got over a 1000 cards FE and customs too
tiptop33
18 Jun 16#458
From a friends order Amazon have contacted him....
"As informed in chat, I've contacted the buyer team and asked them to check when the item will be back on stock.
We have an update that we expected to be in stock between 18 June 2016 to 3 July 2016.
I hope that you would understand that being the retailers, we solely depend on our suppliers for the supply."
Spark
18 Jun 16#459
That's a pretty big window and non- committal response from Amazon tbh.
tiptop33
18 Jun 16#460
Yep not a great response from Amazon
not good really Nvidia have clearly rushed this launch to cash in
but it isn't going to work people are going are a little miffed waiting around
and it seems most /all retailers are getting good stock of the Rx 480 470 460's ready for its launch
Yes the RX 480 may not have the speed of a 1080 but with 2x x-fire rx 480's would be faster cheaper but x- fire would have to become better supported ...
Now if the RX480 can get up to fury nano speeds or faster for less £240 and have good stock everywhere its going to sell ... then nvidia would have to drop the price of 1070 in doing so would have to drop the 1080 as there would be a too larger gap between the two....yes they could drop the prices of the 900's more but there will not be good stock of them as it end of production EOL a while back for the 900's so there is only what's left on the shelf's....
I do hope AMD have a winner here i am sure they have the price performance of the these cards should shame nvidia and so they should be the prices there asking for them regardless of there performance...
Spark
18 Jun 16#461
Well it wouldn't be SLI on 480's, it would X-Fire and the problem with that kind of setup is whilst it looks good in theory, it's very seldom supported. X-Fire receives even less support from game publishers than SLI does.
tiptop33
18 Jun 16#462
Corrected ....
rev6
18 Jun 161#463
CFX
*shivers
Vegeta
18 Jun 16#464
Apparently AIB 480's with 8+6 pin power can OC to 1600MHz and above.
tiptop33
19 Jun 163#465
got my gtx 1080 Flanders edition super happy
tiptop33
20 Jun 16#466
Looks like there will be a load of 1080 g'1 incoming this week so looking good for peeps this week
Goldy6660
21 Jun 16#467
just checked with customer services @ amazon, still first come first serve and still waiting on stock, they said "I am sorry, We have not yet received the confirmation from the product team as they still working with the seller to get the item in stock with low price for our customers."
Uzion
21 Jun 16#468
Using the words "low price" is slightly concerning -are they indicating they need to get gigabyte to agree to provide them stock for the time they were selling it for £560 as opposed to the £600+ it goes for now and everywhere else? Unlikely that a customer service rep would have that level of insight but it is just a weird thing to say
tiptop33
21 Jun 16#469
mmm this is very worrying as it could mean even more delay i have seen other retailers get stock of the g1 not many but still...Amazon may not get good stock until 1st gigabyte agree on the Amazon cost buy in price so we get the £560 deal & 2nd gigabyte will send to other retailers if there buying in at a higher cost price ...
hope not other wise its a longer wait that is not just down to demand but rather an issue of the Amazon's buy in price from gigabyte.....
This is not are problem really re the price as they have to honour it ... but the extra delay that may incur is.....Gald i gave up TBH i will stick with what i have until the bigger cards arrive... but this order is for some one else so still annoying for them
tempt
21 Jun 16#470
The flounders edition 1080 already discounted on Amazon.de (€732)
MikeLondon
22 Jun 16#471
I just got an update to say they are expecting some in tomorrow. woop woop.
MikeLondon
22 Jun 16#472
Update: status states preparing for dispatch woop woop
tiptop33
22 Jun 16#473
Good news
What day did you order?
Goldy6660
22 Jun 16#474
I really hope I get the same message soon. I ordered mine on the 4th.
MikeLondon
22 Jun 16#475
also ordered mine on the 4th
Goldy6660
22 Jun 16#476
nothing here :disappointed:
tiptop33
22 Jun 16#477
maybe if peeps placed in there time of order as well as date will give you better idea
tiptop33
22 Jun 16#478
That's you mike if you do not mind... what time did you place order?
MikeLondon
22 Jun 16#479
It was early morning on the 4th (before the deal went hot).
Goldy6660
22 Jun 16#480
my purchase was late on the evening...should have been sooner :disappointed: still no despatch.
MikeLondon
23 Jun 16#481
I have it in my hands! - its been a journey
tiptop33
23 Jun 16#482
Congrats (growling inside).....
:smiley:
Give us your thoughts mini review :smiley:
let us know re if you get an coil whine ect
just been reading a few have been getting it .
Enjoy
Goldy6660
23 Jun 16#483
gratz, I still have no despatch :disappointed: let us know if it was worth the wait.
MikeLondon
23 Jun 16#484
Had a little time to play with it today, I could not hear any coil whine but I am disappointed with how loud the fan is and how quickly it ramps up. It is much louder then my last gen wind force 3 :disappointed: its not the end of he world - just disappointing.
tiptop33
24 Jun 16#485
Thx for the feedback good to hear no coil issue... a little bit concerned re fan noise as increased on the 1080 g1 but i suppose this is what we get now that the G1 is basically the wind-force
MikeLondon
24 Jun 16#486
I have had more time to test the card and I take it back - coil whine is bad - really bad!
Oh no so we all wait pay a shed load of money and we get this that ...
not good my advice is use the card till more stock arrives then swap out but i would notify Amazon re doing this ....
Do you have another PSU to test the card with as some times can be down to the psu but most of the time its the card
Vegeta
25 Jun 16#490
Sounds like an old Commodore C64 when it's loading a game :smile:
MikeLondon
25 Jun 16#491
I have not maxed it out, but I did a quick overclock to 2075 (no messing around with voltages) and it has not broken a sweat - during a fire strike ultra test (result was 5390 with i7 6700K) it does not go above 65 Deg C, so on that end I am happy.
MikeLondon
25 Jun 16#492
Someone has said it needs burn in time so I will run it for a little while and see what happens (I have an antec gold 750W true power PSU + a noise isolating power strip + top end gaming motherboard so I should have no dodgy components.
Vegeta
25 Jun 161#493
A good way to burn-in the card would be to leave it on a menu screen that has over 1000 FPS without Vsync like the Witcher 3 menu overnight.
hitman007
25 Jun 16#494
Could that lead to card damage?
Vegeta
25 Jun 16#495
No. You can monitor the temps for the first hour or so to see if they are within satisfactory limits before leaving it on.
tiptop33
25 Jun 16#496
Personally i would advise not doing that while your not around to monitor ...usually once you have coil whine its there to stay ...its usually the card or psu at fault ....i have tested many times changing psu's and it usually solves the issue but most of the time its down to the card...Yes you can burn in and hope to knock the coils back to being stable to stop them resonating vibrating ...
All cards will have coil whine but to hear you would have to place your ear next to the inductors
If its bad meaning you can hear it with being a foot away then the card should be sent back PERIOD there is no excuse for the manufactures to say its passable its not with paying even a £100 never mind over £500
tiptop33
28 Jun 16#497
Anybody got an update yet re there order as it seems all other etailers have the G1 in stock ???
Goldy6660
28 Jun 16#498
nope
MikeLondon
28 Jun 16#499
Update - coil whine has decreased to acceptable levels but is still audible, fan noise has not reduced (even after the bios update). Because of supply issues and price increases rather than return I will most likely put on an aftermarket cooler.
tiptop33
28 Jun 161#500
Well what i would do is report to Amazon you have these issues and that you are not happy then when the cards become more available and the price settles .. swap out to another card of your choice ....
You should not have to go to the trouble placing an after-market cooler on for spending over £550
You may if your lucky get a deal on a card with free games too when the time comes ..
But you must report this so they know what you wish to do .... as they do not have any other cards at this time to sort
MikeLondon
29 Jun 16#501
Will do, thanks for the advise.
Goldy6660
30 Jun 16#502
I wish Amazon would hurry it up and get stock in haha! still waiting!
tiptop33
30 Jun 16#503
I got another email
1st one said 18 June 2016 to 3 July 2016
2nd they'll be back in stock by 1st of July to 4th of July 2016.
love how they place in 2016 :smiley: so not to confuse thinking it could be 2017
Goldy6660
30 Jun 16#504
Ha! I've got nothing so far, I've only spoke to them on the messenger, think I'll wait till tomorrow and try getting in touch with them again :disappointed: at least I've had time to contemplate the 480...decided I still want the 1080, I am still tempted to wait a little longer and get the 1080ti instead just cos it'll only be another few months till that'll be launched now :smile:
Uzion
30 Jun 16#505
The 980 and 980ti were around 9 months apart release wise I believe. You may be waiting a while - especially if a new titan comes out first.
Goldy6660
1 Jul 16#506
update: Amazon are getting stock on 8th July said customer service.
tiptop33
1 Jul 161#507
Thats not good there just saying anything
contacted them again this morning now i am being told between 7th to the 20th
There just pulling these out of there **** now me thinks
Thus far i have had
18 June 2016 to 3 July 2016.
1st of July to 4th of July 2016.
and now
7th to the 20th JULY
Any body on here that as an order needs to contact them and place the pressure on its not right this....
UPDATE
Placed more pressure on as i have had a bit of free time to do so this morning but tbh did not want to be wasting with Amazon ...so after chat and phoning a few times i have spoken to a supervisor UK based and now been told that for my order
item will be back in stock within 2 to 3 business days without any issues.
i all so got a whopping £5 yes 5 British pounds voucher for the trouble.... gee whiz suppose its better than nowt a couple of free ales ..
So if you have an order place the pressure on we have all waited long enough
Goldy6660
4 Jul 16#508
well a month into the order and no despatch, will it come this week....stay tuned!
tiptop33
4 Jul 16#509
I got my card ...however i was that ****** off that i sat in the backgarden with a nice cup of tea and a bag of marshmallows and burned the entire pc with the ******* 1080 inside ....
Spark
4 Jul 16#510
I just got the bog standard "We're still trying to obtain...." email from Amazon this afternoon because I have now been waiting for this thing for over a month. I might try to contact Amazon and see if they will give me any vouchers or anything for the inconvenience.
A total balls up by Nvidia. In the words of the great George Costanza; 'All I want is an apology and for them to be fired'.
tiptop33
4 Jul 16#511
Go for it i got £5 ...so £5 is better than nowt but report if you get more as i will be onto them if you do :smiley:
Spark
4 Jul 16#512
I doubt I would get anything tbh, they already gave me a pretty sizable discount on it as it is. That's the only reason why I haven't already cancelled the order.
Goldy6660
4 Jul 16#513
got same email, they only gave me £3 :disappointed: before their email though. might try again for that cheeky £2 extra!
tiptop33
4 Jul 16#514
:smiley:
szumi1978
4 Jul 16#515
I received response back that "unfortunately they can't provide a specific date as to when they expect the item to be in stock but rest assured they're trying their best to obtain more stock to fulfil your order".
+
"I can see this item is available on our website from a Seller, however because this item is not being sold by Amazon we can't send this item out to fulfil your order. If you’d like to order the item from a Seller, you can do this by visiting the following link: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01GCAW1IA "
So, they sent me to other seller which should dispatch in 3-5 weeks with price £734.18 :smile:
I forgot to add: I didn't receive any voucher 5 or 3 quids! Lol :smile:
Boxrick
4 Jul 16#516
I picked up a "brand new" ( like 1 week old ) founders edition GTX1080 on ebay aftrer they gave me a 10% off voucher randomly. Brought the price down to a reasonable £500, will tide me over till this one arrives then I should be able to sell it on with virtually no loss hopefully.
Goldy6660
4 Jul 16#517
Ha called and got the cheeky £2 extra haha! soo...thats the good news....bad news is that the card gets back in stock 2nd August...:'(
Uzion
5 Jul 16#518
I ordered the 1070 Amp Extreme because I was still a little undecided on 70 or 80. I think this makes up my mind - the 1070 will ship as early as the 12th of this month and could be in my hands next week and the £160 saving might make me not miss the frames so much. I've had a rift sitting here for a few weeks now. No way am I waiting until August.
Spark
5 Jul 16#519
I wouldn't bet on that. This whole thing has been a complete cock up from the start.
tiptop33
5 Jul 16#520
Yep a complete nvidia cock up
However i was told via a UK supervisor that they would be stock 2 to 3 working days which today is the 3rd working day.
I have my doubts will see....
Also to add and this may not help getting are cards
OCuk have had over 200 gigabyte cards that have gone missing or misplaced...So could be the same for Amazon ..or it could be a cock a bull story to bide more time
Uzion
5 Jul 16#521
True but that date is actually in my status order and not something pulled out of thin air from amazon customer service like this card. There is also plenty of stock for this particular card in as ocuk has hundreds of it and has been in stock there for a while. 1070 custom stock has been better in general judging by the last week
Spark
5 Jul 16#522
I wouldn't put it past OCUK to lie through their back teeth tbh. The level of loyalty that some people pay towards that company never fails to astonish me.
tiptop33
5 Jul 16#523
well looks like there 200 Gigabytes turned up @ OCuk so the question is what is Amazon up too?
Are they not getting them selling listing because of the low price we got and they holding off till more peeps cancel would not surprise me more so as the pound is weak now against $ and euro ...
Uzion
5 Jul 16#524
Ocuk probably paying a higher price to nab the stock given what they are selling for there and amazon took a tonne of orders for almost £100 less.
Spark
5 Jul 161#525
Until those 200 have been shipped and are in individual people's houses, I wouldn't believe a damn word that OCUK say.
The £-$ rate is irrelevant with this since the UK pricing is pegged with the European region rather than $ conversion and the rates for GBP - EUR haven't really changed all that much.
OCUK also like to schmooze card manufacturers quite a lot since it is their main source of revenue whereas Amazon couldn't give a toss.
tiptop33
7 Jul 16#526
Got the dispatch email arriving 8th / 9th
Anybody else
Goldy6660
7 Jul 16#527
of August? I've currently got the following:
"Preparing for Dispatch"
tiptop33
7 Jul 16#528
JULY updated
5 June ordered
Got the dispatch email
arriving 8th / 9th JULY
Anybody else
When did you order yours Goldy?
HT UK
7 Jul 16#529
I ordered June 4th and it still says:
Not yet dispatched
Delivery estimate: We need a little more time to provide you with a good estimate. We'll notify you via e-mail as soon as we have an estimated delivery date.
tiptop33
7 Jul 16#530
Well i have just checked on my email order and was done @ 23.57 on the 5th so all-most the 6th i ordered
So unless its an error re my dispatch who knows but if i am getting mine sooner that's a little unfiar on peeps who made the order before me that is surly not right I would ring em and find out ?
Update....
just spoken to them and its confirmed on its way
so not sure why i am getting mine sooner than others that ordered before me?
Goldy6660
7 Jul 16#531
order the 4th, still waiting a dispatch date :disappointed: just rang and they said it's getting shipped today and nothing else they can tell me.
Spark
7 Jul 16#532
My guess is that they just BS'd you.
Spark
7 Jul 16#533
Same here.
Amazon have done this to me before though at the 360 launch. They screwed up then when their pre-order allocation all went to one EU fulfilment centre and they only fulfilled orders that had been sent to that particular depot, regardless of when those orders were placed.
That was over 10 years ago now obviously but it honestly wouldn't surprise me if the same thing was happening again.
Goldy6660
7 Jul 16#534
correct. I'm being bulled. my order now says not yet despatched....great. just had a moan and they asked me for the order number of someone that has had it despatched as they didn't believe me rage!
Spark
7 Jul 16#535
It would be interesting to see if Tiptop's was actually sent or if that was also a mistake.
tiptop33
7 Jul 16#536
Ok update
Just Checked my bank account payment as been taken at the same time as the email order dispatch confirmation ..
Its still showing as Awaiting dispatch arriving 8th / 9th which is a little suspect as it was next day delivery .
They will get my rage if there messing about...
But what i do not like is getting the card sooner before peeps that ordered b 4 me not right (not complaining mind you ) but still not right and needs to be delt with if i do get my card
Spark
7 Jul 16#537
Amazon's systems are fairly robust so it sounds as though you will be getting the card tomorrow.
Don't worry about getting the card before others who ordered before you. That certainly isn't your fault and it would be Amazon that have let people down there, not you.
Goldy6660
7 Jul 16#538
do you fancy posting your order number so I can nag them? don't mind either way it's just cos they didn't believe me.... RAGE!!!
tiptop33
7 Jul 16#539
i understand what your saying re not my fault thx ....But Amazon need to be told get raged by peeps that ordered prior to me as it simply not right if any body needs the info i will help vouch ...This card is not even for me but my buddy will be happy for sure i can now finish his build which he as been waiting for.
tiptop33
7 Jul 16#540
yes would be more than happy to help out but not 100% sure.... is it wise to place an order number on a public thread not sure about that ....can an Amazon order number be used for fraudulent use or is it harmless...anybody
HT UK
7 Jul 162#541
Probably best to just PM it.
Spark
7 Jul 16#542
I agree. Best not to publicly post it here.
Goldy6660
7 Jul 16#543
yeah agreed. PM if you want to (either way I don't mind though, no point in putting details at risk as no idea what you can do with them). :smiley:
tiptop33
7 Jul 161#544
Ok
So let the card arrive if it even does turn up
then i will PM my order number who ever needs it ...
And get that rage onto Amazon...... i would
Spark
7 Jul 16#545
Have you been kicking up a particular fuss over this with Amazon. I'm wondering if they might have secured one from another supplier especially for you.
Spark
7 Jul 16#546
Got a delivery estimate of this weekend. It looks like they're dispatching these tomorrow.
tiptop33
7 Jul 16#547
Not really but i am very firm with my words and did get a UK supervisor last week so maybe and he did state that it would be sorted 2 to 3 days but that was 4 days ago
tiptop33
7 Jul 16#548
yes looks like they have them that's good for all of us
:smiley: at last
Will miss the waiting round getting annoyed ...will have to order something else like this maybe a 1070 this time wait another month :smiley:
Uzion
7 Jul 16#549
I ordered on the 7th June so I have no idea if I'll be in this stock allocation. Unlikely!
Spark
7 Jul 16#550
I would say that if you haven't had the email yet then it's probably best to not get your hopes up too much.
tiptop33
8 Jul 16#551
No dispatch yesterday just states shipping today
so looks like mine its arriving tomorrow now ..
anybody else what's your status
Goldy6660
8 Jul 16#552
mines still got nothing :disappointed: shall update if it changes.
Uzion
8 Jul 161#553
Nothing here. Although on mobile my account order summary says the order has been delivered lol. When you click the order it says not yet dispatched and i haven't been charged afaik so just a weird and cruel bug.
Goldy6660
8 Jul 16#554
I've got exactly the same although I do have an email saying it's been dispatched...
Uzion
8 Jul 16#555
Hopefully yours should be with you soon then.
Mine definitely will not be - just had order status updated:
Arriving 29 Jul - 23 Aug
Lol! Thankfully I have an estimated delivery of 12 July - 17 July for a Zotac Amp Extreme 1070. Just hope I get that and the pain from the above will be minimal
tiptop33
8 Jul 16#556
When did you order the g1?
Uzion
8 Jul 16#557
7th June - so to be fair, probably a good chunk of orders between me and the 4th June guys who had stock shipped. I'm guessing their next stock shipment is a good few weeks away
Spark
8 Jul 16#558
Mine just says this:
I contacted them via chat but they couldn't tell me when it would be dispatched which is a shame because I want to be able to plan my weekend.
HT UK
8 Jul 16#559
Mine now says:
Arriving Monday
Not yet dispatched
Spark
8 Jul 16#560
Mine hasn't changed but I just spoke with them on the phone. They said it's still most likely to be tomorrow or Sunday but they will phone me back if it is going to be early next week.
Do you have Prime or not?
HT UK
8 Jul 16#561
Yeah I have prime. Delivery is listed as 'Expedited' and it looks like it'll be dispatched tomorrow.
Spark
8 Jul 16#562
Where does it say it will be dispatched tomorrow. Usually expedited on prime for something that is sent on Saturday means Sunday delivery (I think).
tiptop33
8 Jul 16#563
On my 1st page
where the price breakdown is i get
Delivery speed
Expedited
then the tracking page this i suspect where on mine it says dispatching soon his maybe saying dispatching tomorrow
Spark
8 Jul 16#564
Well unless I'm mistaken that says that yours should be sent today for delivery tomorrow.
tiptop33
8 Jul 16#565
:smiley:
Yes that's on mine but you where asking "Where does it say it will be dispatched tomorrow" re user HT UK so i was showing where i think it maybe on mine where it say dispatching tomorrow edit dispatching soon
lol
I am confusing myself now :smiley:
HT UK
8 Jul 16#566
I go to my order details page and click the track button:
Then it says shipping tomorrow:
Spark
8 Jul 16#567
Mine is exactly the same only it says delivery between 9th and 11th July.
Maybe it's dependant on courier services in your local area.
tiptop33
8 Jul 16#568
At last it is been updated... in transit arriving tomorrow...
HT UK
9 Jul 16#569
Mine is now
Arriving Monday
Preparing for Dispatch
Spark
9 Jul 16#570
They have charged me for mine but haven't sent it yet. I am going to assume that they will be sending it today for delivery tomorrow though. There will be all hell to pay if they don't.
tiptop33
9 Jul 16#571
They did the same with me
cash came out on Thursday
had a will be delivered 8th 9th update
And is out with carrier now
Spark
9 Jul 16#572
Now they have dispatched it but they are saying that delivery will be Monday despite me having Prime.
This has been by far my worst experience with Amazon for the last 10 years.
Boxrick
9 Jul 16#573
Not sure why everyone is getting so worked up, when we ordered the notice said "Unknown Delivery Date". I was expecting it to take ages, but Amazon always deliver. Here we are finally getting dispatch notices after a decent period of time, but Amazon have ultimately delivered.
I will be "upgrading" from a FE 1080 to my G1 1080 on Monday =D
tiptop33
9 Jul 16#574
Not good whats the point of prime they have let you down there
I bet they will not have it in the warehouse for it to go prime Sunday delivery ..probably coming from abroad ..
Mines arrived however not happy at all having waited over 35 days this is what i have got ...
the gigabyte box is squished in one corner allot does not look good however the Amazon box was in mint condition
upon opening the box the card is in the anti static bag but the seal as been open and resealed by the looks upon further investigation there are finger prints on the back plate..
Looks like i have been given a return not happy
i am about to install it i bet its got coil whine ..we shall see
:disappointed:
tiptop33
9 Jul 16#575
where not getting worked up its just that we got told many time it would be this or that date thats the reason for as you put it worked up :smiley:
Spark
9 Jul 16#576
I'm not worked up, I'm annoyed. There will be someone to receive it here today and tomorrow but not on Monday. I spoke with them on chat anyway and they said it's most likely going to arrive tomorrow.
Goldy6660
10 Jul 16#577
any coil whine?
tiptop33
10 Jul 16#578
Yep coil whine
Not an happy chap
tested in three other pc's now all with different PSU's however its much less with a sea sonic psu and can not hear with the case closed ....Its still there if you place your head next near the pc ...this is when its pushing high FPS
the other problem the fans are loud too from stock bios compared to the gigabyte 980 ti g1 ..the new g1 bios update for the 1080 from gigabyte helps out but still louder than the ti g1....
to me these cards feel look cheaper built than the 980 g1's
I spoken to Amazon and can not give me a date for replacement may just send back and get a full refund
so a little miffed waiting over 35 days for this
MikeLondon
10 Jul 16#579
From what you described, it sounds better than mine, it had loud coil whine easily audible from anywhere in the room on normal FPS. It then went away and I only got it on high FPS, and that's 90% nearly gone as well now.
I suspect the fan is going to be virtually identical on any unit you get - but yes it is disappointing.
tiptop33
10 Jul 16#580
Yes it was very bad on a corsiar psu but on a seasonic not so bad but either way it unacceptable for a £600+ gfx hell even if i had paid £50 and had coil whine would be ****....Its going back more likely get sent out again to some poor soul not good really as it seems i got a return :disappointed:
MikeLondon
10 Jul 16#581
Well 2 for 2 so far with coil whine run it for about 5hr - 10hr and see if it gets any better.
Spark
11 Jul 16#582
Well I decided yesterday that I'd had enough and cancelled mine. I'm going for a 1070 instead and looking at some of the coil whine complaints on here, I may have made the right choice.
MikeLondon
11 Jul 16#583
....but you were so close :disappointed:
Goldy6660
11 Jul 16#584
longest day ever!
Goldy6660
11 Jul 16#585
and again poor show from Amazon...GPU didn't turn up! got a free month of prime for inconvenience. absolutely fed up with this journey.
Spark
12 Jul 16#586
I think I've made the right decision. :laughing:
According to Amazon I will get my new 1070 on Monday.
Spark
12 Jul 16#587
That's how I got with it. It felt like the whole thing was cursed so I just knocked it on the head in the end.
Goldy6660
12 Jul 16#588
its arrived shall fit tonight and report back :smiley: now this is going to be one long afternoon
MikeLondon
12 Jul 16#589
Should be very interesting to see how this goes as most likely this is a new batch - make sure it has not been opened!
MikeLondon
12 Jul 16#590
Should be very interesting to see how this goes as most likely this is a new batch - make sure it has not been opened!
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Others mostly £629.99.
Pre-order now before they take it down like the others.
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(No joke..)
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If I was in a market for one I'd be all over this one.
Great find OP hot!
At least you've got terrible AMD crossfire support to look forward to :wink:
Just can't see the point of selling my 980 Ti and paying £140 extra just for ~15 more fps
Mind you, Gigabyte are quite capable of cheaping out on components: I remember complaints about 7950 and 7970 where after the reviews the went for a cheaper voltage control chip which meant those cards became voltage locked. Not good for extreme overclocking or for those trying to undervolt. While over-volting may damage cards, I cannot see any good reason why an AIB would disable undervolting.
With the Founder's Edition ridiculousness, it's overwhelmingly true now. We've waited nearly two years. What's a few more weeks? Sell your current card and travel around Australia for a month.
Crossfire scales better than SLI especially in 3 and 4 GPUs setups. DX12 will put a major spanner in Crossfire/SLI as now the game devs are responsible for the work. Can only see that working if the game engine developers do that work, or maybe if a future console gets a multi-GPU setup (and that would only help people running the same card or similar cards in Crossfire).
Just wish I could've been more patient to wait for these, but I'd still be a few months off finding one I'd go for to match my build!
Its really worth a watch, it's from a respected Youtube journalist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ5wYVu-tM8
These cards are supposed to be released for the 10th of June but obviously depends on how much stock Amazon get - should t be a long wait anyway and the advantage of it being Amazon is you can always cancel anytime up until despatch if you do find a better deal in the meantime :smiley:
Recently, AMD and other respected journalists have said the 480 is only going to be around $200 and very low power consumption with high GPU power.
I'll just mention multi-GPU issues (especially going 3-way and 4-way) and performance scaling because I'm sure most of you will know why I mention it.
The 480 does show that a GPU needn't cost so much - even on a new process - so NVidia really are charging top price. They do seem to use less power for a given performance - the AMD design is possible more "raw grunt"
Then I realised AMD and Nvidia are raping us on price regardless of our loyalty and couldn't give a damn how much we preach our support online...
I run 2x r290x and will be getting a gtx1080 for 4k, about the only semi recent game where it has been flawless is GTAV most of the time I have play on a single card on release (fallout4, tomb raider, witcher 3, dark souls 3 etc etc I could go on)
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kfa2-geforce-gtx-1080-reference-blower-8192mb-gddr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-80nsj6dhk5vk-gx-087-kf.html
But this appears moments later, I wonder which will be the better card? Id rather order from Amazon and it comes to £530 with student discount....
This one hands down. The cooler on this is another league
Buying multiple GPU's to save money on performance has been around for years. It's not new at all. Support though is getting much worse
WHAT DID YOU SAY?
You'll find that will consume over double the power of a single GTX 1080...
I have an overclocked i5 2500k and 16gb 1600mhz ram
If I buy this card will HTC vive work with respectable settings or do I have to get a whole new rig?
Your answer dictates if I go in for overtime or not next week
Even at 120w, 3 cards will at best be double the power consumption of a GTX 1080, so my previous comment still stands...
I hate nvidia pricing but it has to be paid if you wanna be happy.
Rumours of a 490 too in the future considering AMD's past. Around 1070 performance at $300. It could be rubbish though.
This is why the desktop pc is dying out they are overcharging these days.
Plenty of other GPU's at many price ranges to buy. This isn't the only one.
Do you actually know how this site works?
It is so expensive because it is the best GPU on the market with its only competition being gtx 980 SLI (2 GPUs and only on certain games) and it is better than a Titan X (£~900), so in one sense they are already a saving. Personally I won't be getting one anytime soon, but for people who want it this is beyond "enthusiast" level and is up there with insanely expensive audio equipment, full frame pro SLR/lenses, sports cars and £700 spotting scopes for bird watching.
If you are looking for a card for casual gaming then this isn't it, I don't game enough on my PC to justify the investment and i will be grabbing a single 980ti when the prices drop or maybe even a Titan X.
As Nvidia's CEO keeps saying how much he admires Apple. And the F's Edition thing seems to be something Apple would try.
Actually, ironically enough Apple are avoiding Nvidia for a few years now. Aside from all the solder defects (Apple were about the only OEM who really tried sort out their customers during Nvidia bumbgate but no matter how many times they replaced those chips they would fail again as it was design fault), Apple are also rather keen on pushing OpenCL rather than Cuda. Big company politics I guess, but Nvidia do have a knack of alienating people: chances are neither Microsoft nor Sony are going to come back to them for any console deals.
(I joke)
Rambling on:
If they bring out a 1060Ti with slightly less performance than a 1070 for about £220 that would compete nicely with the RX480 (like a re-do of the 660Ti). AMD are going to kill the mid-range until a 1060 launches with the RX480 at £170. It's the same basic GPU they're putting in the PS4 'Neo' so the Morpheus doesn't suck.
I want the MSI Gaming X Edition of the 1080 though.
(No joke..)
In fairness tho, I could final explain to my girlfriend "why I needed a 1000w PSU in the first place"... complete with PowerPoint and a look of smugness.
Also you are quite free to spend £600 on a triple crossfire setup, but the difference is this £560 card will perform like a £560 card ALL THE TIME.
Whereas your £600 triple setup will perform as such a fraction of the time, often like a £400 dual setup or less, and rather too much like a single £200 setup but you still paid £600 for it. The number of games that will run like that is rather too long to list here.
1. Enough people have surplus income to chuck around that OCUK's 1080 back order list is now over 1000.
2. A deal thread including one of these cards at over £550 has reached the top of the day list on here.
Proof enough I think that discontent with the consoles has possibly never been higher than it is now. Also, the state of the economy probably isn't quite as bad as some of the media and politicians like to say that it is.
https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/ROG-STRIX-GTX1070-O8G-GAMING/
Or proof enough that there is still a market for high end GPUs, which has been the case for a long time now...
The GTX1080 is the best performing GPU out there, the price isn't great for the tier it's in, but people are all too keen to forget that it beats the Titan X which costs £750+ and the memory is also faster performing than the Titan X.
Lastly consoles have some exclusive titles which the PC doesn't. I bought a PS4 just to play Uncharted 4, which is the best game I've ever played, as an experience currently nothing touches it, and somehow they made the graphics better than anything I've seen on PC including Rise of the Tomb Raider. A quite staggering masterpiece of gaming.
I suspect most people will be buying either the AMD RX480 or GTX1070 this year depending on whether they game at 1080p or 1440p and also for some people that want VR.
I have experience with RMAs with Asus and how they manage to stay in business is a miracle. I know there will be people that haven't had issues, but I really dislike the arrogance of this company, I refuse to buy anything that has the name Asus on it.
They could of course release some 16GB DDR5X behemoth designed for max 4k on a single card and priced at around 2 grand next year but I don't even nvidia would be hard faced enough to something like that.
To be fair though I only had to go through that because the retailer let me down. With Amazon that shouldn't be a problem. Warranty is something that you really need to consider with PC parts though. I was going to get an inno3D 1080 yesterday and then I read up on their warranty service and thought better of it.
http://m.computeruniverse.net/item/3930363535333338
RED & GREEN will never care they just want our money.
Why does a GXF card cost more than a hole PC???? just baffles me.
just saying GFX cards are over priced, thats all :smile:
sorry to keep u in suspense in limbo.
:stuck_out_tongue:
Brace yourself. https://www.scan.co.uk/products/pny-nvidia-tesla-k80-module-4992-cuda-cores-24gb-pci-e-30-passively-cooled?utm_source=google+shopping&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=CPy4gM_nj80CFaoy0wodEgsK3Q
There seems to be nothing these days that really grabs me and half of what is released, either doesn't require anything that powerful or is so badly written, it's still flaky even with lower settings.
I quit gaming in 2007 and started again occasionally around 2013-2014. I've just played Uncharted 4 on the PS4 which is the best game I've ever played, which I've said so many times on this forum, it must get boring. I've also enjoyed Crysis 3, Dying Light, The Witcher 3 is just absolutely fantastic as well. I tried Elder Scrolls Skyrim and didn't like it and also tried Fallout 4 and didn't like it.
Uncharted 4 was another league of amazing for me, I've never played a game so good, I literally (in the correct sense of the word) was sitting there jaw dropped at many moments in the game.
I want to try Rocket League next, I missed the Humble Monthly bundle that contained it which has enraged me so much, I need to go and shoot things in Doom on the PS4! Why do I have Doom on the PS4, well it cost me £10 when I bought a bundle at GAME otherwise I'd have it on the PC.
I play at 1080 and my 290X lightning pretty much maxes all games and cost me £215 new.
Before anyone says the 290X costs a trillion pounds a day to run I measured the power draw of both the 290X and a 970 I had and it used between 0-80 watts more then the 970 while gaming.
The 480 is OK for 1080p gaming but it does show that it's possible to sell a GPU for a sensible price - rather than nearly £600.
I'm not sure of the relevance, though - what's that got to do with 2048 × 1080 (aka 2K)?
Contrary to PC sales being in decline, the DIY gaming market is growing fast.
Manufacturers have admitted it has much better margins for them and many are moving towards fancy gaming kit. Some of the new cases are obscene.
Also look at the naming conventions of the top gaming products, all aimed at teenagers, how an earth do they afford it.... 'Fury' Samurai' 'Tactical' 'Fatal1ty' 'Pro-Gamer' 'Rampage' 'DeathAdder' They've even brought back Keyboards favoured by programmers in the late 1980s called them 'QuickFire' and charge up to £150!
http://www.pcgamer.com/pc-gamer-buying-guides/
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20160531PD204.html
"With the gaming market growing more popular, monitor brand vendors, which have been seeing declining profits, have also entered into the gaming market."
"PC monitor shipments have been suffering from declines and price competition has also grown fiercer. In addition to large-size and niche products, monitor vendors have found business opportunities in gaming monitors. Despite limited shipments, their high prices and gross margins are expected to benefit vendors' profits."
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20160603PD205.html
"Because of the high gross margins offered by gaming PCs, not only brand vendors are competing for the market fiercely, their ODMs are also eagerly looking to benefit from it."
"The gaming market has been growing fast, with China, South Korea and Russia having established e-sport as official sport events. They have been stepping up efforts to boost the market's development."
Google
Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 G1 Gaming Edition Windforce 3x Fan 8 GB GDDR5X PCI-Express 3 Graphics Card - Black £559.99
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18734041
Idiots who love to price gouge! You should have seen the price they released the FuryX at which was £200 more than Scan. Don't know why people are so loyal to them when they shaft you with prices.
If that's what they want to do though then leave them to it. Means more stock at the likes of Amazon for the rest of us.
Believe me, I wish that you were right but unfortunately you're not.
Vulkan will soon be the API of choice, Nvidia will now no longer be able to artificially manufacture bottle-necks in non-Nvidia GPUs or cards of Nvidia owners who they want to force into upgrading.
"Vulkan is still a ways off; right it's about what it might be rather than what it is. But with Google adopting Vulkan for Android, and the likes of Unity, Epic (Unreal Engine), Valve (Source 2), and Dice (Frostbite) lending a hand, expect improvements to come thick and fast." ~ Feb. 2016
I currently use a GTX 980ti I paid £440 for last year, which was a bargain since it was £500-600 everywhere else. Before that I had a GTX 670 which cost £320. Before that I used two GTX 560ti, £200 each, before that GTX 275 which cost £150. I keep paying more and more for these GPUs.
I sold the GTX 275 for £100 (£50 loss). The GTX 560 ti, one I returned and got all my money back, the other I sold for £150 (£50 loss). The GTX 670 I sold for £90 (£230 loss). The GTX 670 is now worth about £60-70 on eBay which is concerning. The GTX 980ti... I really wonder how much it will sell for when I upgrade. I will be disappointed if it is worth less than £250 in a year or so, but I can see that happening. That would make GPU's the worst investment, high purchase price, use it for a year or two and then expect to lose 60-80% what you paid. I'm always going to be tempted to buy the latest and greatest as are others. I don't ever go for the cream of the crop enthusiast parts, I try to buy what I think offers the best price/performance in the current "high end" range.
Out of interest how have you sold your cards in the past? I've seen lots of stuff about people getting screwed by ebay recently. Am hesitant to flog an expensive item there like a GPU! Have my sights on the new Vega range next year, with I didn't have to wait but having bought a 3440x1440 freesync monitor these Nvidia cards are sadly out of the question.
https://youtu.be/PJ5wYVu-tM8?t=190
It sounds like he's ripping into the bad slide and breaking down the 480 and telling you that it is no where near the performance of a 1080, nor the performance of the 1070.
Forget any ideas of the RX480 of being a competitor to the (1080) and by extension, it is also nowhere near the 1070.
https://youtu.be/PJ5wYVu-tM8?t=275
Anyway, he goes into a long winded video after this about assumptions on what AMD are trying to do.
April 2013:
May 2016:
In 2013 the 7970GHz was just over 4% faster, in 2016 the R9-280X is over 46% faster (41/28). Plus, 3GB is still usable in a lot of modern games while the 2GB versions of the 670 and 680 run out of memory. Other cards are similar (watch the R9 290 overtaking the GTX970 and AFAIK the one the TPU chart is the reference design which throttles!).
But, rather than thinking "that last Nvidia card I bough sure aged poorly, I won't buy one of theirs again", people go and buy a new Nvidia card. The serial Nvidia upgraders (GTX680, GTX780, GTX780Ti, GTX980, GTX980Ti and now GTX1080) have gotten poor longevity with each of those card but coming back for more. Amazing!
That's not the model NVIDIA have created at all. Gaming cards, at the high end, haven't actually went up much at all in the past 10 years.
Inflation adjust launch comparisons show that, even JUST looking at AMD's offerings, you can see countless cards that started off at $499, $549, or $599.
Just look at this.
http://www.cnet.com/products/ati-radeon-9800/
$499 for the Radeon 9800 XT. In 2003. That's $648 in today's world.
So, enough with the "it's so much more expensive today!!" It's not. This has always been the market.
The price of the 1070 is more expensive than the 970, but that's standard variations in card prices. Take a look at the history of card launch prices, they fluctuate from launch to launch based on the competition and performance slotting.
I'm not going to let you off with simply saying "no matter how you look at it" because I showed you a way to look at it that says exactly the opposite. I gave you an inflation adjusted card that launched at a higher price, in 2003, than the 1080 did today.
You don't get to just say "no, because I said so" when there is evidence you are incorrect readily available.
Looking back, the 970 was "the new 770" (following your reasoning) but, as we all know, the 770 launched at $399.
So that's $399, $329, $379 for the last three x70 cards from Nvidia. (And the 770 does still offer quite good performance at 2K. :wink:)
Sorry, I'm not trying to embarrass you, but if you're not sure about something, you're not required to post a comment anyway.
The 970 is still a perfectly good card. If you have a 980ti i wouldnt bother upgrading.
The 970 has still been the best card price wise for years even with the gibbed memory.
If the 1070 is more than 300 quid they are ripping your eyes out. 300 quid or less then its fine.
The bigger the cards the lazier the devs get its all about optimisation. Look at WTW its the only TW game with 64bit support and it runs flawlessly at 60fps all day on a decent PC. This is before DX12 too.
People banging on about 3x cf setups are just dumb it doesnt scale well and has loads of driver issues. Single card setups always run best and Nvidia always do the best cards.
1080 is the best card youll get until the ti and then theyll milk the idiots that want titans. I mean look at the fools who bought the titans them the 780 spanked it lol..
600 quid for a 1080 is a rip off, if the 1070 is a tiny bit slower and half the price the 1070 is the card to go for.
AMD just fail no matter how good the hardware is, they just cant support it with the software.
We gamers lose either way ha.
All in all, things look good for Vulkan. Very good in fact. Not so good for OpenGL :wink:
You OCUK fanboys really are some piece of work.
Going to be a lot of disappointed people on OCUK when the initial batch of stock is distributed among other major European sites. People with orders there seem to think they are going to receive the vast amount of stock! LOL.
It's like getting people to hang out in shopping centres and shopping malls as opposed to actual city centres. All looks very nice; kids thinks it's cool, no rain etc. etc. BUT it's all private property so if you have a grievance whether as a customer or someone working there, the management will be quick to tell you leave. Certainly no rights to protest, assembly or similar. Forums on merchants site's are not that different. Another space which is not public.
I'm all for grabbing the occasional pre-owned or B-grade deal but surely 400 quid is a little bit too much to gamble on something like that.
Surprising they've kept this going, but stopped taking orders for the EVGA cards and ASUS Strix.
Amazing GPU btw, and I want one :smile:
Have a look at the Nvidia GTX 1070 when it's released, it has incredible performance per dollar based on the benchmarks. And AMD recently revealed a $199 GPU that has the performance on AMD's current high-end cards, it's an even better deal than the GTX 1070 (and that's coming from an Nvidia guy).
You don't care for facts, I get it.
Seeing these benchmarks eases the pain lol
you can also check out
http://eu.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6181-KR
Your post looks like it was ran through Google Translate.
Have you ever bought a BMW, Rolls Royce, or any German product?
How about French champagne?
Your statement is patently false, even though is such a generic statement.
@Spark. There are tons of other examples of non-american, premium, product pricing. I don't agree with your premise at all and think you are being unreasonable.
Not everyone is selling dodgy/broken goods :smiley: Use your best judgement and do what is comfortable.
http://forums.hexus.net/graphics-cards/204247-graphics-card-warranties-lets-see-how-good-they-really-look.html
However, quality of components is not hardly relevant with reference builds, the PCB will have been made for Nvidia (as cheaply as possible judging by the quality of the VRMs).
Anyone else noticed how many of the photos over on OCUK are renders? If the 'manufacturers' don't even have photos of their cards based on the reference PCBs it may be a long wait for those who blew £500+ on these pre-orders.
lol
I expect there will be a few cancelled orders - I got my order in a while before this appeared on HUKD and I expect a few hundred others will have done so too, so there is probably a huge wait list/back log too.
OCUK and Novatech had them in stock earlier today!
I dont see it as a good card though
this is no longer like others G1s its just moved down to the windforce class
the xtreme is now the go to gigabyte card
there's also cheaper 1080s out there
with the stopping of orders could mean they may not be able to get them till mid/ end of the month looking at other retailers there stating from the 17th till the end of the month .....
All so people that have ordered this
The 1080 G1 card is really a windforce card now .... it seems the G1 as moved to the 1080 extreme shame on gigabyte doing this really...
either way for the price will still be a good 1080
as it seems other etailers have so lets hope ..i have noticed some Amazon reviews of the 1080 g1 so maybe it as or i could be very low in the pre order list and missed out on the 1st batch
OCUK had them in yesterday for about an hour or so but had to resist as the price difference was £50 for the card...
yes they may have so called good customer service ect but not at £50 more value
and to be honest Amazon have all ways been great at there service
Amazon customer service are pretty spot on, although the first advisor I spoke to didn't have a clue, just kept telling me to keep an eye on my account.
Tbh it's been pretty crappy of Amazon to keep changing their stance on availability, and it's shocking the lack of communication between the buying team and the customer service team, especially when it's a bestseller.
there are many peeps that praise OCUK and OCUK themselves make such a big thing re how good there customer service is but when you look at the prices for most parts there all ways a little or alot more expensive than elsewhere ..more so the 1080 g1 ...Yes customer service is important but not £50 more important :disappointed: this is why i have gone Amazon on this purchase..
Amazon's customer service is basically second to none in this country and I don't think a company like OCUK could come anywhere near close to matching it even if they tried.
Here is an real time example of that
The stock for the Founders asus have just come in and should be at £619.99 but no OCUK gouging in at £649.99 what a joke 00
Funny you say that as its about to happen to me :smiley: in there now re posting let the scorn, snarl and hiss with a possible BAN commence
OCUK are as bad as the sellers on amazon with £800 for FE 1080
the sad thing is i bet they sell once the cheaper gigabyte FE sell
then the next FE say msi ..OCUK will then think hey lets increase more £679.99..... rinse repeat .....its a joke really is
Talk about OCUK gouging the all ready nvidia gouge asus FE card...@£649.99
My concept of the Nvidia FE card was to create a price increase its a dirty selling technique this
you have a card at what £620 the FE then everybody moans at the price then the partners come in at what £530 £599 ect and peeps think eh its a bargain and buy ..well thats if they can get one that is :smiley:
but in reality non the the 1080's should be more than £450 as the 980 was to replace it so in effect nvidia have increased the price and let the partners come in as the so called good guys basically the Nvidia FE is a buffer card for the stealth dirty price increase
seems the 1080 G1 as become the 1080 windforce its a shame gigabyte have done this re the G1 but i suppose the g1 is better than reference and at the Amazon price we got it ain't a bad deal looking at all the other prices ...
All so it seems having more power connectors does not really help as most ref pcb's are hitting 2100mhz same as the strixx but once the bios as been decrypted then will see if having extra power connectors along with a bios mod does help .....some thing to look forward too i guess ...
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4n7pmt/gigabyte_gtx_1080_g1_shipment_update_amazoncouk/
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-g1-gaming-rgb-8192mb-gddr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gv-n1080g1-gaming-8-gx-184-gi.html
It's not the boards or the memory that makes the delay it's the chip supply.
But nobody but TSMC (apart from Intel) can handle a new process on such scale so you have to put up with it! :smiley:
Hope you get your card sooner rather than later. :smiley:
Live web Chat = "We have been getting a limited amount of stock from the manufacturer. However only in small batches so order will be sent to your asap depending where you are in the pre order queue"
so basically 1st come 1st served is what there saying no info on dates ect just the same spiel re confirmation email
"Unfortunately we can't provide a specific date as to when we expect this item to be in stock but rest assured we’re trying our best to obtain more stock to fulfil your order"
Email = "A definite date update will be sent to you via email by the end of today"
so will see on this and again same as above email spiel re confirmation email
Phone = Same as the live chat one above and confirmation email same spiel
So will see if any date info is sent out today
If you got it that price and if you can hang on i would
the 1080 is a stronger card than the 1070 but not in terms of price per performance but it all depends on what price the 1070 comes in at my guess is £400+
After all we got this at a ok deal £560 as now its at £609+ other places more
So its just a matter of having patience if you can get by with what you have its not that bad
With the savings i made from this card instead of paying from else where the £609 i treated my self to a nice fractal case ..and still have some change for a few nice ales so win win really ..
Now where is this damn card :smiley:
The FE 1070's that will be out by this time tomorrow are going to be £400 guaranteed so for me, since the 1080 offers roughly a third more performance plus this card has an infinitely better cooling system than a FE 1070, an extra £125 is probably worth it.
Those who choose to wait for a custom 1070 will probably find themselves waiting even longer than those who want a non-FE 1080 since the demand for the 1070 is likely to be considerably higher than it was for the 1080 (and the demand for the 1080 has been insane).
Its just stupid
One things for sure that will be a hell of a boost for you from the 970 ...fallout game will not know what's hit it :smiley:
Unfortunately my upgrade is not so good as i am coming from an G1 980 ti with bios mod at 1550 core 8100 mem but for me its all about power and being cooler so i am not expecting too much in terms of gains in fps..yes they will be a little gain but with less power and heat so i am happy with that ...
So once they decrypt the bios for the 1080 i will be all over that to see if it can be pushed a little more over 2100+ on the core will see...
scan and ebuyer have had them in stock just checking on other now ...so what is going on with Amazon ...
I would be surprised if Amazon haven't also received them today if those other suppliers did however they have said first-come, first-served all along and I'm sure that plenty of people ordered them before this thread appeared unfortunately.
Tbh I do have a lot of faith in Amazon. They have only ever screwed me over on one pre-order and that was over 11 years ago now and did seem like an honest admin mistake at the time.
After doing a little bit more research the cards have gone at ebuyer ...however this is not good news it now states 8 more due in 21 to 23 days :disappointed:
so the redit post about Amazon not being able to supply the cards till end of the month or July could be actually true
Well lets stay strong spark
Will see what the Amazon email brings tonight with the exact supply dates ..just got an horrible feeling its now going to be the end of the month
I do not have faith to be honest and i will be surprised we get anything..but maybe me just being -
A friend of mine today is a little miffed he had made an pre order with OCuk for a evga card was one of the 1st to do so and was below 10th in the q waiting for the cards to arrive....
However He made an order for a g1 on ebuyer they had over 6 in stock at the time so he went ahead and made the purchase all was well re his order so he cancelled is order with OCuk he just been notified from ebuyer that there is a stock issue :disappointed: and that they do not have any G1's coming in till the end of the month ..well you can imagine why he is miffed ....He will now be in the bottom of the q if he reorders with OCuk
Not right is it
This whole 1080 launch is a true mess
Amazon "When an item is listed as "Temporarily out of stock. Order now and we will deliver when available" this indicates that the item ordered is a little more difficult to source from our suppliers, so we can’t predict how long it’ll take to arrive. After you place your order, we'll do everything we can to get the item for you. "
Just same spiel as the other emails :disappointed:
Nvidia are to blame here with there poor chip yield by what i am hearing all in all its one hell of mess of a launch
I can see a fair few going for the 1070 at this rate but i suspect that's going to be the same mess around ...
(Go on get the 1070 as i want your place in the Q :smiley: .. )
plus the fact you have no card so its Ra ra ra :smiley:
This whole Pascal launch has been a complete balls up from start to finish so far.
but this is stupid... why do they not wait till stocks are good everywhere before launching...it would not surprise me the FE as a lot to do with it not just Chip yield ...
If the 1070 is in better stock shape it may prove that there chip yield per wafer is bad for the 1080 so that would mean more 1070 chips will see
Hello,
Please be advised that we have a revised delivery date for the items you ordered on June 01 2016 (Order #xyz).
"Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 G1 Gaming Edition Windforce 3x Fan 8 GB GDDR5X PCI-Express 3 Graphics Card - Black"
Estimated arrival date: June 11 2016 - June 12 2016
Enjoy your card
also worth a mention
2nd hand 980 ti can be had for between £350+ seen some go less than £300 most all will have warranty too just make sure you get the original proof of purchase so to use the warranty if needed....Price may drop even more with the 1070 here..
And will give you a nice boost over the 970 and if you get a good 980ti that overclooks well then you will not be far off the heels of the 1080
just a thought
Well i just found out that ebuyer listed over 10 + 1080 g1's yesterday on line so to purchase online was there for a good few hours and they did not have stock as all where used for pre orders yes all
peeps had ordered god knows how many my friend being one and now as had to cancel and will not see is money back to the bank for 5 to 7 days talk about a mess eh ...
They stated next lot of G1's in stock will be the 29th
updates well
https://www.nowinstock.net/uk/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1080/
Gigabyte's shipment hasn't been received by Amazon yet, so it seems like the champ who posted earlier was one of the 7.
I've decided I'm gonna order a 1070 as an interim card, and keep my Amazon order for the moment.
Thanks for the info and time on this matter ..there is holidays in china at moment so if the cards are produced there expect more delay
By the time we even see are cards we may have to reconsider as the 1180 will be out :smiley:
£410+ FE
cheapest blower £369.99+
stix £480
seahawk h2o £550
yes 1070 will see at 2pm nvidia and the retailers are taking the P***
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/detail/index/sArticle/61606
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-geforce-gtx-1070-gaming-x-8g-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-32a-ms.html
....but do not worry ....nvidia's solution is go low end gtx 1060 for only £349 ouch
I did have a look at second hand Titan X's on eBay but the prices are still ridiculous.
and had about 3 cards i had to RMA all good no issues..
your all so covered via paypal re the purchase off ebay for upto 180 days yes 180 days
A 980 ti for less than £350 is a deal to get G1 i recommend had many with no bios mod or extra volts and most will do 1450+ easy and would be faster than a 1070 by alot so that's not a bad deal but i suspect 2nd price will go up a little with this 1070 wako price
the original receipt off the buyer
Considering that a 1070 offers 980Ti level performance only with a much healthier power draw, second hand 980Ti's just aren't worth the hassle for the sake of 50 quid IMHO.
but you are right new shiny 1070 after market for less than £420 is the safer bet ...but lets see how stocks are 1st i suspect just as bad as the 1080 its frustrating the hell out of me
either way from your 970 it will be great upgrade
If that was a brand new card from Amazon then I would have just had a replacement sent to me in the post or my money back.
2nd hand i go gumtree or fleabay
but 3 weeks RMA is unlucky 7 days my last one and postage sent i pay they pay the return ..the trick is not to tell them that your not the original owner so have to act the person on the receipt .. all these companies try and wiigle out of anything Amazon on the other hand seem to care and just deal with it correctly ...
https://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/all/gpu-nvidia/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070
It's just insane.
Scalping to the MAX!
what makes matter worse some of the review site where saying i quote for Hexus
"Partner-made GeForce GTX 1070 cards are also on the way, said to be coming "very soon". UK residents can expect to pay £329 for such graphics cards "
not good is it
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/graphics-cards/nvidia/geforce-gtx-1070?sPage=1&sSort=3
That's according to their forums anyway.
this whole nvidia 10 launch and founders crap is really starting to wind me up do not know about anybody else
The bad... 1st no change in order just the same spiel re out of stock but there just notifying me that...
The good.... they have given me back the next day delivery charge so basically next day postage for free
As i am not a prime member i opted for next day ..
now i do not know how to take this is it a sign that it mean its going to take ages end of the month or are they just being good at giving me a re fund of next day postage who knows ....either way bring my total cost to under £528 so getting better :smiley:
so if anybody opted for that or wish to try and upgrade to free next day do so as it been given to me
Whilst I've got the money for a 1080, I'm a couple of hundred off the vive so I'm in no rush at the moment
( I ordered well before this even went on hotukdeals by the way)
send it back then and tell them i want it instead :smiley:
More info found ...
It seems the main reason for the delay is that Nvidia are having production issues with Pascal and is looking like mid to end of July before there all stocked up ...
I quote from ICDP @ OCuk
"This adds more evidence to the speculation that Pascal released early with a large production candidate run in order to beat Polaris to the shops. This is why we see the price gouging and very little stock because Nvidia decided not to wait for a production ramp so they could stockpile 1080/1070."
From a redit user who works in e commerce
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comm..._price/d43ume7
his comment is going to get downvoted to hell but here goes... I tried to tell everyone that the 1070 launch was gonna suck in terms of stock. I work in e commerce and my distributors told me this fact last month.
They were told by their NV rep that NV is having production issues with pascal thus they aren't going to have any kind of meaningful stock until mid to late July. The distributors themselves are the ones bumping up the price of these cards, it isn't the reseller's fault. I was allocated a total of 5 cards at retail price not reseller price... That's why you are seeing the mark up. There just isn't enough GPUs to go around and distributors are price gauging. I just told them to go eat a fat one and will wait for stock to stabilize.
Price drops on all New 900 range incoming in fact its happing now
Aria have the founders edition of the 1080 in stock btw if anyone really wants a 1080 - not a pre order.
now guru 3d is respected so good findings for the rx 470
re the RX 470 should give an idea of the rx 480 performance
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/radeon-rx-470-benchmarks.html
Wccf tech not so respected but still
http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-faster-than-nano-980/
Its not right all this
Either way this is one hell of an Nvidia mess personally i think they have rushed this launch regardless of it being paper launch ect...
And to say pascal was never going to exist we should be on volta gpu right now but that was delayed hence we have a die shrink of Maxwell on speed with a few tweaks and being charged an arm and a leg for it ....
I think nvidia want out of the consumer market and want to be just in the science sector..
Amazon however told me they are expecting the next batch of ASUS units in about 1-2 weeks.
but a friend as an order for the same card which he ordered on the 2nd ...He too as been told this morning its Middle of July before stock will arrive.... as cancelled is order now....
but a few are stating MId to late July ....Crazy
Low Chip yield seems the issue and by the looks of stock nvidia have kept most of them for the founders edition wrong just wrong .....
Personally i think its a rushed launch and the partners just where not ready....Or nvidia have blatantly not given the Gpu dies fast enough to the partners to keep the founders on the shelf who knows...?
Meanwhile AMD could have good stock of the RX 480 in full swing this could also be the delay too as the partners are dealing with large volumes of this too....
yes not as fast as the 1080 1070 but from what i am hearing is the rx 480 is 980 fury speeds posibly faster but i doubt that but for £200 to £240 then if that is true that is a true bargain ...
Its allmost confirmed the RX 470 is 970 speed for £160 wow
The single 970 powers my new oculus rift so at least with VR I am ok for a little while.
Usually dispatched within 1 to 3 weeks. Sold by VisionTech2000-UNITED KINGDOM
Well it must have not been many as it was only in stock for less than 18 mins
But depending on there pre orders too it could have been a fair few ....
OCuk Have just got over a 1000 cards FE and customs too
"As informed in chat, I've contacted the buyer team and asked them to check when the item will be back on stock.
We have an update that we expected to be in stock between 18 June 2016 to 3 July 2016.
I hope that you would understand that being the retailers, we solely depend on our suppliers for the supply."
not good really Nvidia have clearly rushed this launch to cash in
but it isn't going to work people are going are a little miffed waiting around
and it seems most /all retailers are getting good stock of the Rx 480 470 460's ready for its launch
Yes the RX 480 may not have the speed of a 1080 but with 2x x-fire rx 480's would be faster cheaper but x- fire would have to become better supported ...
Now if the RX480 can get up to fury nano speeds or faster for less £240 and have good stock everywhere its going to sell ... then nvidia would have to drop the price of 1070 in doing so would have to drop the 1080 as there would be a too larger gap between the two....yes they could drop the prices of the 900's more but there will not be good stock of them as it end of production EOL a while back for the 900's so there is only what's left on the shelf's....
I do hope AMD have a winner here i am sure they have the price performance of the these cards should shame nvidia and so they should be the prices there asking for them regardless of there performance...
*shivers
mmm this is very worrying as it could mean even more delay i have seen other retailers get stock of the g1 not many but still...Amazon may not get good stock until 1st gigabyte agree on the Amazon cost buy in price so we get the £560 deal & 2nd gigabyte will send to other retailers if there buying in at a higher cost price ...
hope not other wise its a longer wait that is not just down to demand but rather an issue of the Amazon's buy in price from gigabyte.....
This is not are problem really re the price as they have to honour it ... but the extra delay that may incur is.....Gald i gave up TBH i will stick with what i have until the bigger cards arrive... but this order is for some one else so still annoying for them
What day did you order?
I really hope I get the same message soon. I ordered mine on the 4th.
:smiley:
Give us your thoughts mini review :smiley:
let us know re if you get an coil whine ect
just been reading a few have been getting it .
Enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq_nJoVpon8
not good my advice is use the card till more stock arrives then swap out but i would notify Amazon re doing this ....
Do you have another PSU to test the card with as some times can be down to the psu but most of the time its the card
All cards will have coil whine but to hear you would have to place your ear next to the inductors
If its bad meaning you can hear it with being a foot away then the card should be sent back PERIOD there is no excuse for the manufactures to say its passable its not with paying even a £100 never mind over £500
You should not have to go to the trouble placing an after-market cooler on for spending over £550
You may if your lucky get a deal on a card with free games too when the time comes ..
But you must report this so they know what you wish to do .... as they do not have any other cards at this time to sort
1st one said 18 June 2016 to 3 July 2016
2nd they'll be back in stock by 1st of July to 4th of July 2016.
love how they place in 2016 :smiley: so not to confuse thinking it could be 2017
contacted them again this morning now i am being told between 7th to the 20th
There just pulling these out of there **** now me thinks
Thus far i have had
18 June 2016 to 3 July 2016.
1st of July to 4th of July 2016.
and now
7th to the 20th JULY
Any body on here that as an order needs to contact them and place the pressure on its not right this....
UPDATE
Placed more pressure on as i have had a bit of free time to do so this morning but tbh did not want to be wasting with Amazon ...so after chat and phoning a few times i have spoken to a supervisor UK based and now been told that for my order
item will be back in stock within 2 to 3 business days without any issues.
i all so got a whopping £5 yes 5 British pounds voucher for the trouble.... gee whiz suppose its better than nowt a couple of free ales ..
So if you have an order place the pressure on we have all waited long enough
A total balls up by Nvidia. In the words of the great George Costanza; 'All I want is an apology and for them to be fired'.
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"I can see this item is available on our website from a Seller, however because this item is not being sold by Amazon we can't send this item out to fulfil your order. If you’d like to order the item from a Seller, you can do this by visiting the following link:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01GCAW1IA "
So, they sent me to other seller which should dispatch in 3-5 weeks with price £734.18 :smile:
I forgot to add: I didn't receive any voucher 5 or 3 quids! Lol :smile:
However i was told via a UK supervisor that they would be stock 2 to 3 working days which today is the 3rd working day.
I have my doubts will see....
Also to add and this may not help getting are cards
OCuk have had over 200 gigabyte cards that have gone missing or misplaced...So could be the same for Amazon ..or it could be a cock a bull story to bide more time
Are they not getting them selling listing because of the low price we got and they holding off till more peeps cancel would not surprise me more so as the pound is weak now against $ and euro ...
The £-$ rate is irrelevant with this since the UK pricing is pegged with the European region rather than $ conversion and the rates for GBP - EUR haven't really changed all that much.
OCUK also like to schmooze card manufacturers quite a lot since it is their main source of revenue whereas Amazon couldn't give a toss.
Anybody else
"Preparing for Dispatch"
5 June ordered
Got the dispatch email
arriving 8th / 9th JULY
Anybody else
When did you order yours Goldy?
Not yet dispatched
Delivery estimate: We need a little more time to provide you with a good estimate. We'll notify you via e-mail as soon as we have an estimated delivery date.
So unless its an error re my dispatch who knows but if i am getting mine sooner that's a little unfiar on peeps who made the order before me that is surly not right I would ring em and find out ?
Update....
just spoken to them and its confirmed on its way
so not sure why i am getting mine sooner than others that ordered before me?
Amazon have done this to me before though at the 360 launch. They screwed up then when their pre-order allocation all went to one EU fulfilment centre and they only fulfilled orders that had been sent to that particular depot, regardless of when those orders were placed.
That was over 10 years ago now obviously but it honestly wouldn't surprise me if the same thing was happening again.
Just Checked my bank account payment as been taken at the same time as the email order dispatch confirmation ..
Its still showing as Awaiting dispatch arriving 8th / 9th which is a little suspect as it was next day delivery .
They will get my rage if there messing about...
But what i do not like is getting the card sooner before peeps that ordered b 4 me not right (not complaining mind you ) but still not right and needs to be delt with if i do get my card
Don't worry about getting the card before others who ordered before you. That certainly isn't your fault and it would be Amazon that have let people down there, not you.
So let the card arrive if it even does turn up
then i will PM my order number who ever needs it ...
And get that rage onto Amazon...... i would
:smiley: at last
Will miss the waiting round getting annoyed ...will have to order something else like this maybe a 1070 this time wait another month :smiley:
so looks like mine its arriving tomorrow now ..
anybody else what's your status
Mine definitely will not be - just had order status updated:
Arriving 29 Jul - 23 Aug
Lol! Thankfully I have an estimated delivery of 12 July - 17 July for a Zotac Amp Extreme 1070. Just hope I get that and the pain from the above will be minimal
I contacted them via chat but they couldn't tell me when it would be dispatched which is a shame because I want to be able to plan my weekend.
Arriving Monday
Not yet dispatched
Do you have Prime or not?
where the price breakdown is i get
Delivery speed
Expedited
then the tracking page this i suspect where on mine it says dispatching soon his maybe saying dispatching tomorrow
Yes that's on mine but you where asking "Where does it say it will be dispatched tomorrow" re user HT UK so i was showing where i think it maybe on mine where it say dispatching tomorrow edit dispatching soon
lol
I am confusing myself now :smiley:
Then it says shipping tomorrow:
Maybe it's dependant on courier services in your local area.
Arriving Monday
Preparing for Dispatch
cash came out on Thursday
had a will be delivered 8th 9th update
And is out with carrier now
This has been by far my worst experience with Amazon for the last 10 years.
I will be "upgrading" from a FE 1080 to my G1 1080 on Monday =D
I bet they will not have it in the warehouse for it to go prime Sunday delivery ..probably coming from abroad ..
Mines arrived however not happy at all having waited over 35 days this is what i have got ...
the gigabyte box is squished in one corner allot does not look good however the Amazon box was in mint condition
upon opening the box the card is in the anti static bag but the seal as been open and resealed by the looks upon further investigation there are finger prints on the back plate..
Looks like i have been given a return not happy
i am about to install it i bet its got coil whine ..we shall see
:disappointed:
Not an happy chap
tested in three other pc's now all with different PSU's however its much less with a sea sonic psu and can not hear with the case closed ....Its still there if you place your head next near the pc ...this is when its pushing high FPS
the other problem the fans are loud too from stock bios compared to the gigabyte 980 ti g1 ..the new g1 bios update for the 1080 from gigabyte helps out but still louder than the ti g1....
to me these cards feel look cheaper built than the 980 g1's
I spoken to Amazon and can not give me a date for replacement may just send back and get a full refund
so a little miffed waiting over 35 days for this
I suspect the fan is going to be virtually identical on any unit you get - but yes it is disappointing.
According to Amazon I will get my new 1070 on Monday.