Be especially careful that they're advising covering both outcomes on the same bookie; Backing England/Draw Double Chance and Russian (To Win) in play covers all possible outcomes to guarantee a profit, which is against their terms and conditions. They could reasonably void either one of your bets and / or close your account for this. I hit these offers every time and my strategy has always been to back Over 0.5 goals at Bet365 for £50, and then the 0-0 correct score at any other bookies (whoever has the highest odds) for the correct amount to get as close to £50 as possible - usually £4-ish. This gives you a £50 risk free in-play bet to use on the line of your choice, for the cost of your 0-0 correct score bet.

As an example; I think England are priced around 1.9 (9/10) for the win, using the above strategy, and backing England in-play for £50, gives you an effective price of almost 25/1 for the England win.

(£50 on over 0.5 goals at 1.10 at Bet365 pays £55 + free £50 bet
£6 on 0-0 Correct Score at 8.5 at 188Bet pays £51
Total risk = £4 because one of the above outcomes MUST HAPPEN (£55 - £51 = £4)
£50 in-play on England to win on 1.9 pays £95, or refunded as cash if it loses)

You need a total of £106 in liquidity for the above. £50 for your first bet, £50 for the in-play an £6 for the 0-0 correct score bet.

predictions for england wales match,

england to win ?

Thanks for getting back & I think with your explanation and calculations I've now got this straight in my head! I hope!!

Sorry for the late response, been indisposed.

If England win, you win at 365, any other result, and you win at the exchange, effectively transferring your bonus over; provided that the odds are close enough to mitigate your losses. Ideally you want a ratio of 95% lay-to-back, on odds above 3.0 (2/1), in order to maximise the amount you're locking in. Obviously, the higher the odds you're laying, the more money you need in your Betfair account to cover the liability, but if you've backed both possible sides of the outcome and calculated the stakes correctly, your actual risk is minimal - a few quid, because one outcome MUST win. ​

You could attempt to turn the money over at 365 but the turnover requirements are designed to make you risk all that money so that they don't have to pay you anything if and when you lose the lot - it's up to you whether you want to gamble or take the guaranteed profit.

Right OK so looked at 'lay betting' it that the same as 'match betting' If so I have an account at Betfair which has the betting exchange.

And say if I were to place a 'back bet' on 365.com with my bonus winnings on England again, then on betfair.com I do a 'lay bet' on England...that means if Wales win or draw I would then win on betfair & if not I win on England with 365

Therefore its not an issue if all my 365 bonus money cannot be withdraw as yet because I can use that money too increase in my 365 account OR if I lose there I will be winning at Betfair with the lay bet.

*Plus I'm guessing/hopeing that my bonus money at 365 can be used to turn itself over(without depositing more real money) to then meet the required amount of settled bets....to actually withdraw real money

​Matched betting is your friend here. It's specifically designed to convert bookmaker bonuses into money at the exchange (Betfair, Smarkets etc) that you can withdraw as cash profits. Google it, it's not too hard to get your head round.

offer back on for Thursday's game :smile:

With my £180 bonus winnings?

you need qualifying settled bets of £300 to get your money out

Hi there can anyone advise me on theses turnover requirements at bet365 as I've won £180 on my free £50 bonus from the 1-1 England draw but can't get my head round what's needed to gain on this bet is there another method round this?

To sum up I made £180 from the 100% bonus offer which I put on the draw, my actually originally pre-game bet went on the England to win and then placed £25 on Russia via Williamhill (to cover the whole match betting system)

So I've made £105 from £50 BUT this is in bet365's bonus money & I'm unsure how I was going to win actually money to withdraw as everyone was certain on, without anyone explaining this x3 turnover on your deposit & bonus at bet365.

As far as I can tell I have to add another £250 despoit and bet with it to take my settled balance to £300 as it is currently stands at £50, is that what is needed to meet these's turnover requirements...

I've had mine refunded and withdrew it 9am this morning

What and when did you put the risk free bet on?

I'm not refunded, anyone else

Its not normally refunded until the next working day.

Have you tried logging out and then back into your account? Mine wasn't showing up, soon as I did that it did

No not yet. Last checked 00:52

​has yours refunded yet

Normally refunded by now but guess there must be a lot more to process.

how long till they refund you

yea vardy and rashford should have been on

Why did Woy not bring on Vardy ffs.
I'll now be drowning my sorrows with beer from the free cash so not all bad.

£110 up, but still feel down

apart from in-play 0-0

I've never been so bitter sweet about England failing miserably. Should bet against them more often to be honest.

Hey hey! Happy days :smiley:

Still a bit gutted for England, but certainly made me feel a lot better about the equaliser!

Same old England pmsl.

£135 profit thank you russia :smiley: 1-1 as i hoped for

​Just won £60 thanks to this advice. Thanks!

Draw was a good result for most of us I take it lol

england btts with 30 mins to go. Worth punt @29?
close but no cigar!

Another injury time goal! Odds were 15 for that!

Any existing members ever done this offer without getting a email or message on your account n got refunded?

Thanks for the in depth response. Have done exactly this, just waiting for the game to start to go for £50 in play on the draw now.

This is a man who understands.
The returns might be lower but no messing about and a free £25 at least.
I did double chance about 4 or 5 times before but i'm stopping now before they ban me hehe.

Yeah, for that set up it's not guaranteed profit. It's still gambling. With the offer and that set up, you're essentially risking a loss of £1 or £5 in order to order to gain £44 on an outcome that is close to nearly a 50/50 chance. However in a normal bet, a £1 or £5 stake in order to gain £44 it would be 44/1 or 9/1 chance so it would be a lot less likely to happen compared to the chances of England winning.

You can still guarantee profit with a lot of different set ups though.
The simplest would be to do a double chance pre game bet and then the risk free bet on the less likely 3rd outcome. That way all 3 outcomes are covered. Either the double chance wins and you get refund or else the risk free winnings will be enough to still get profit despite the £50 pre game bet loss. However those set ups can get you banned since it's apparently against the terms of this offer.

For a 3 bet set up, you can abide by the terms by doing the 3rd bet on a different betting site. You can adjust your 3rd bet stake in order to end up slightly above what you start with. E.g currently 9/2 for Russia win so £12 = £66 won. £50 for England pre game and £50 draw will end in £50 refund. End with £116 so £4 profit on the least likely outcome but England win = £28 or Draw = £53 profit. A lot of different combinations. If you do it right, the only thing you're gambling on is whether you win little profit or a fair bit more.

Keep it simple for a guaranteed profit :smiley:

Ah, I see. So not quite guaranteed profit then, but potentially a decent returns if England win. Thanks, fairly new to this gambling thing as you can tell :smiley:

Your "Total returned" is incorrect. It should be the same value as your "Win" column but instead you're adding the original stake onto the "Win" when that value already includes the original stake.

So for ">0.5 goals Eng win", you've added £50 original stake twice ending with £100 more profit than the real end profit.

The outcomes would be:
0-0 (+£51 won -£50 lost +£50 refund) = (£101 returned - £106) = £5 lost
>0.5 Eng Not Win (-£6 lost +£55 won +£50 refund ) = (£105 returned - £106) = £1 lost
>0.5 Eng Win (-£6 lost +£55 won +£95 won) = (£150 returned - £106) = £44 profit

Am I misunderstanding something here? Based on my maths (which I'm guessing is very wrong), the potential earnings are as high as £144. See below:

The refund goes on your balance around 30mins after the game has finished

come on 1-1 :smiley:

sorry, should've wrote return and missed out a comma.

That is completely misleading. This deal is not hard to understand :confused:
You win £6 if either team wins - NOT £106!

​Now I feel stupid! I'm going for more than 0.5 goals pre match then 0 - 0 in play. So I win either £5 or £275.

thats an oxymoron isnt it, if its guaranteed profit then its against the t&cs.

edit: just realised ladbrokes are refunding up to £25 if your correct score bet if it loses. works out well if you use that and pick 0-0 correct score, then bet over 0.5 goals on bet 365

No your not as you would win the first bet as "no" then the in play bet that lost you get back as the offer states

​if you place the Russia bet with Ladbrokes, they will refund you your stake if the game ends in a draw. Doesn't change your winnings if Russia or England win but gives you an extra 20 on the draw.

If anyone is looking for a guaranteed profit using bet365 and getting round the T&C's then try :
Pre match over 0.5 goals 1/8
In play Match result DRAW 12/5

Outcomes :
Either team win, £106.25 Return (pre match bet wins, in play refunded)
0-0 Draw £120 Return (pre match bet loses, in play bet wins)
Score Draw £226.25 Return (pre match bet wins, in play bet wins)

Be very careful with your 365 account, I wouldn't advise covering all outcomes on this site alone for the sake of a bigger outcome, you WILL get promotion banned. Just yesterday a friend of mine who I got on this has been banned. He had probably used this offer 3/4 times.

Make sure you are using your account for other betting, even if it means laying on betfair to break even just to show you are betting on non promoted events.

Come on a draw!!

​same as what I have done :smile:

Here's what I think is a good deal for those who don't like to guarantee the outcome with Bet365 (i.e. slightly more risk averse/wimpy)

£50 Pre-match England [win returns £95.45 + £50 free bet refund = £25.45 profit]
£50 In-Play on a Draw [draw returns £170 - £120 stake = £50 profit]
£20 with on Russia (with William Hill) [win returns £96 + £50 free bet refund = £26 profit]

​100% Correct, "guarantee" is the key word. I personally have been stopped by bet365 from doing this, but there are a few ways you can use it, by going for small guaranteed profit or big risk big reward. Just remember don't gamble what you can't afford to lose.

I'm trying to work out the maths on this....Bet365 are @1.083 for >0.5 goals (a profit of £4.15 on a £50 stake).
The best odds I can find for 0-0 are at Betfair - @9 (a profit of £50 on a £6.25 stake)

So the cost of covering the first bet is actually higher than the return from the first bet (hence no guaranteed profit).

What is the plan for guaranteeing a profit?

​no email, just do it in play. Ts and Cs state your FIRST in play bet will be refunded if it loses. Good luck!

I've placed a £50 bet on over 0.5 goals and covered it with a 0-0 bet at a different bookies. Thank you to the contributors that have suggested this idea! Should I expect a confirmation email from bet365 for the £50 refundable in play bet or is it a case of just doing it on the day and hoping for a refund?

Ove 0.5 half time at 1.5 = £75
Free inplay bet 0-0 half time at 2.5 = £125! Up £25 either way

Bloody hell, right you are. You'd think my reading comprehension would be better when I spend so long going over the T'S and Cs. Sorry mate!

What if one team scores? Then you're out of pocket.

E.mail invite received about 1 hour ago

I think you misunderstand me, an own goal does count as a goal, thus the over 0.5 bet would be won, what it doesn't count as is a "goalscorer" so if you bet on no goalscorer instead of correct score 0-0 you have a chance (albeit a small one) of landing both bets.

Thank for posting this I need to have a look at this in more detail

Own goal counts as a goal, so you'd lose the over 0.5 bet. In overs markets, the bet is settled on the final score not the method of goals / goalscorer.

You can back the over 1.0 / 1.5 Asian goal line instead though, which means half of your stake goes on "1 goal", and half on "more than 1 goal". Should there be exactly one goal in the match, you're refunded half your stake + (half of your stake X the odds). More than one goal you're given your stake X the odds. Should the one goal (or both goals, even) be own goal(s), you win both bets.

The price on the 1.0,1.5 goal line will be so low it's barely worth it on a £50 stake though.

Lovely jubbly saving this for later. I've won quite abit from this.

I have calculated this on current odds:

£63 on England (odds 10/11 bet365 before game) - £33.33 profit
£50 on Draw (odds 12/5 bet365 inplay) - £33 profit
£24 on Russia (odds 4/1 betbright before game) - £33 profit

Going for both team to score first half, no pre match, yes in play bet

Just something to add, instead of backing 0-0 at another bookmaker go for "no goalscorer" generally the price is the same, I've even seen it better in some cases. This gives you the chance to win both the "over 0.5 bet" and no goalscorer, should the game only have own goals, I've had it happen once..... you never know.

You don't need a figure in the hundreds to lay at the exchange - you don't need to lay this at all. You can simply dutch it by backing over 0.5 goals at 365 for £50 as your qualifier, backing the correct score of 0-0 at ~ 9/1 at any other bookies for ~£4-£5, and placing a £50 in-play bet safe in the knowledge that the most you can lose is the difference between your profit on the two bets placed before the game kicked off (as your in-play bet will be refunded if it loses).

A lot of people trying to claim this is 'easy' money, which I figured wasn't helpful to those people who hadn't a clue what is being talked about. We are talking about matched betting here, it is not gambling thought as some claim, as you can bet such that you confirm a payout in all outcomes (this only works because of the 'free bet' offer)
It DOES require a fair amount of money to be used in an exchange, such as betfair, so do not think you can just work this with only £50, you will need £50 for your prematch bet, £50 for your in play bet, and some figure in the hundreds (£300-£700) to lay off at the exchange. (you could place smaller bets prematch, but then you reduce the amount of money you can make as your free bet is much smaller)
This website explains it brilliantly and even has tools to help beginners Save the student
From a £50 free bet, you should target about £33 no risk return. The return depends on how bothered you are about searching out the best odds. As a beginner it might take you an extra 20minutes of searching to make £33, when you might be best off just taking £25 easily.

[email protected] =190 +50=240 +40 England 365
[email protected] =173 +50 = 223 +23 draw other
50@ 4.75 = 237.50 +37.50 Russia in-play

What's the best way to maximize on this deal for new sign-ups?

The £50 in-play bet is not a free bet, it's a paid bet which is refunded as withdrawable cash if you lose. You have to have the money in your account and must wager real money. If it's a winner, profit. If not, you are refunded your stake.

And yes I'm sure. It's a "guaranteed loss" (not guaranteed, as if your £50 in-play bet wins, you'll more than cover it) of £4 to bag yourself a 100% risk-free £50 bet. I think that's an acceptable tradeoff.

Instantly withdrawable, well within a few hours!

if you win the free bet, can you withdraw it or is it one of those where you have re-cycle the winnings about 5 times?

It's always been there. They don't seem to care though (yet).
I assume they'll enforce it if too many start covering there bets and Bet365 lose more than they gain from the promotion.

Just read T&C looks like they have add that new bit, never seen it before

My brother in law has done a few of these during the Champions League and won loads!

So pre match he bets £50 on less than 0.5 goals in total game.
As soon as the match kicks off he bets £50 on more than 0.5 goals.

Basically if the game ends 0-0 he won about £500 (the Man City Semi rings a bell on this) if anyone scores he wins a few quid (plus the original stake) and refunded on his 0-0 bet.
Ultimately it is high return if 0-0 or a couple of quid if not.
He had 3 of these come in and just used a couple of quid on bets at the weekend so he was actively using his account and they kept paying out.
He took his family on a holiday to Greece on the winnings alone.

I've held off getting involved as £1 a week on a Saturday is all I have been used to and a bit of fun. This sounds to be a bit more serious but for big gains.

Never had a problem in the past

that bet is not a garuanteed profit so its alright. you could quite easily lose with that bet in fact



bet365 have a "cash out" option that allows you to take your bet money back (at an adjusted price of course) before your bet has actually finished. basically as long as you stick to your bet youre fine. its got nothing to do with withdrawing funds from your account.

Can someone explain this:

If you place the £50 on over 0.5 goals at 1.10 at Bet365, then for the free £50 bet, what's the best one to go for without breaking any of their T&Cs? I understand you couldn't do the opposite of the initial bet, i.e. do a Under 0.5 goals... Can someone make that clear?

Also, what does this mean in bold "All bets must be paid for and placed in the usual way and any bets that are fully or partly Cashed Out are excluded from this offer"...
Does that mean you can't withdraw any winnings from the free bet or something?

This would break their T&C's and would probably void your bet.

Looking now and will got for Over 1.5 goals in first half In-play (12/5) and pre match under 1.5 goals (3/10)

Are you sure on this?
You don't need £106 as £50 is a free bet.
Also if you bet
£50 on over 0.5 goals at 1.10 at Bet365 pays £55
£6 on 0-0 Correct Score at 8.5 at 188Bet pays £51
Total risk = £4 because one of the above outcomes MUST HAPPEN (£55 - £51 = £4)
I think Risk is GUARENTTED LOSS £1 or £5
You pay out £50 plus £6 So spend £56
The Return is either £55 or £51
You can only win using free Bet

Waiting for the e-mail as not had it yet. Made £55 on the Champions League final so defo getting on this if I get the offer.

C'mon Russia :smiley:

Easy, nice one
Back and Lay (Betfair,smarkets etc) before kick off - something with odds above 2.0 but not too high, something to give closest match
Back and Lay something with highish odds (underlay) at half time, need a few hundred pounds in exchange account to cover liabilities
Done, usually makes around £35
Shame my account is limited now though, so can't do it

Every offer in this thread is risky - except the Bet365 offer. Do that and stop. If you don't think you can stop, then just don't start at all. Hardly complicated.

I doubt he was banned for posting a deal.

PS Every deal on this site is essentially bad. I didnt need that teapot, but I have a shopping problem - so I bought the teapot.

HUKD is essentially a faciliator to addiction.

And I love it.

Like someone said before, it isnt gambling when you're guaranteeing a return.

PS Yes, always lay your other bets elsewhere. Dont cover 100%

What a jobsworth! Hardly forcing anyone to gamble are they. Everyone can make their own mind up.


Slippery slope my friend.

What a jobsworth! Hardly forcing anyone to gamble are they. Everyone can make their own mind up.

I don't think posting offers like this is wise as you are encouraging people to gamble glad to see the poster has been banned.

For example - and I stress it is an example as you need to check the odds.

Bet £50 for England to win pre-game @ Bet365: Win £120 - £50 stake - £40 Russia stake = £30 Profit
Bet £50 for a draw IN-GAME @ Bet365: Win £170 - £50 stake - £50 England stake - £40 Russia stake = £30 profit
Bet £40 for Russia to win @ Sky Bet pre-game: Win £120 - £40 stake - £50 England Bet = £30 profit


Those odds are completely fictitious, hope you understand the principle. Will take you 5 to 10 minutes to work out best odds.

can you explain this with the numbers please?

Careful on the T&Cs with this. They can refuse to pay out if they spot patterns of you doing this in your account. But heat for the shout out! Friends of mine made a killing this year with this one.

Ha, its not gambling when you know you're going to win.

As others have said I've been using this deal for last few years, it's unbelievably good.

I keep it simple and back team 1 before game on 365, draw inplay and team 2 with another bookie. Has guaranteed just over £30 everytime

No - existing customers too.
No promo code needed.

I would NOT accept any "New customer" bonus because it can lead to difficulties withdrawing all your winnings.

Is this new customers Only, Any promo code needed?

Exactly :wink: They have seemed to restrict each of my accounts (Albeit they are family accounts) in terms of this offer - after only 2 to 4 uses since the first got restricted after about 5 uses. But it's still good money whilst it lasts. Never had an account "banned" with all of us using the same address.

Hmmm, no harm in trying eh :smile:

I think you can have more than one account (wife and I have one), you can't have more than one signup offer now (used to be able to). And you can only do one of these offers per address. But if one a/c gets gubbed anyway...

One account per address is their T&Cs. I assure you that you can still take advantage of the offers regardless. Once you get up to four accounts per address, I still haven't found any problems. (Except the fact that they restrict the offer after a few goes). The banking card needs to be in the name of the account holder (So if you have a joint account, the Mrs may have a bank card in her name even though it's the same account - this will work).

No i didn't, I'm guessing that's why then...

You need more than 1 account. ie, gf, parents, friends etc
£50 per account is achievable, some delayed laying on a CS score to take advantage of bore draw offers can increase this, but CS odds usually aren't b365 best. I prefer a fire and forget bet on the 1x2 markets, and then an in play CS as can spread liability on betfair over 5 or 6 bets.

Did you do other bets as well as the promotion?.

One account per address/banking details so the Mrs is out

betting is for mugs.
Christ on a bike - this has gone hot!

Got a girlfriend/wife/brother/sister who would like to sign up with their consent of course? :wink:

I've done this the last three times it's been on and they've banned me yesterday, gutted. Stayed within T&Cs too :disappointed:

What are your bets for a £150 profit?

Love taking advantage of these offers. Made close to £1000 profit over the past 6 months just doing these

These are great, hopefully they do them quite a bit during the Euros, I use two accounts and just do over 0.5 with the 1st bets and then stick to trying to predict the score and first goalscorer.. Had some massive wins during the Champions League games they done them for.

Be especially careful that they're advising covering both outcomes on the same bookie; Backing England/Draw Double Chance and Russian (To Win) in play covers all possible outcomes to guarantee a profit, which is against their terms and conditions. They could reasonably void either one of your bets and / or close your account for this. I hit these offers every time and my strategy has always been to back Over 0.5 goals at Bet365 for £50, and then the 0-0 correct score at any other bookies (whoever has the highest odds) for the correct amount to get as close to £50 as possible - usually £4-ish. This gives you a £50 risk free in-play bet to use on the line of your choice, for the cost of your 0-0 correct score bet.

As an example; I think England are priced around 1.9 (9/10) for the win, using the above strategy, and backing England in-play for £50, gives you an effective price of almost 25/1 for the England win.

(£50 on over 0.5 goals at 1.10 at Bet365 pays £55 + free £50 bet
£6 on 0-0 Correct Score at 8.5 at 188Bet pays £51
Total risk = £4 because one of the above outcomes MUST HAPPEN (£55 - £51 = £4)
£50 in-play on England to win on 1.9 pays £95, or refunded as cash if it loses)

You need a total of £106 in liquidity for the above. £50 for your first bet, £50 for the in-play an £6 for the 0-0 correct score bet.

You can't guarantee £150 plus at all, that's a load of coblers!!!! Yes you can win that amount but that's only if the result of you bet comes in!! You can guarantee yourself £15 but not £150!!! I've done these offers plenty of times and used matched betting and there is no way you can guarantee £150!!!

I'll still be doing this though :-)

The InPlay is the refundable/long shot, so I could even see myself cashing out on this at 60/70 minutes for healthy profit. Then the prematch bet wins too.

(You just cant cashout the prematch bet or the 'risk free' bet is no longer risk free)

So im seeing either 0-0 to pay £275 (£5 if not)

Or Both Teams To Score First Half for £250 (or £6.25 if not).

It'll be boring as fudge... or a quick start game. Im leaning towards boring as fudge.

Lovin' it....

Nice

thanks

What are you going for before and in play?.

Hope so as these offers can be used to guarantee a nice profit every time! I have made a nice profit by using these offers over the last few months! Should make £150 on this game!

Hopefully this offer is on for the other 2 group games aswell