Better off with a Sony rather than a no name brand...

I agree

​I think he was actually kidding....

Good evening everyone

THX is a matter of taste, however a THX certified receiver usually packs a bit more punch (to pass the THX certifications) and can indicate a better receiver

THX isn't worth it.

Quick one for the "experts" here! I'm returning my Sony BDVN 7200W surround sound system because the blueray player just stopped working and there was too much static in the rear speakers for my liking. I'm stuck between Onkyo and Denon. I'm thinking of getting an AV receiver and then separate speakers as they come on sale rather than purchase an all in one box type of system again. Is it worth getting one of the two here rather than spend the extra money to get THX? Is the sound quality that much more noticeable to warrant the extra cost? Haven't had a really good system yet so I'm looking to build from scratch :smiley:

​demo them in RS shop! before onkyo i wanted to buy denon 2200w model, can't remember exactly but did eventually compared it with onkyo txnr636 and I'm so glad I did it and went for onkyo. I'm using it for stereo CD's and flac files got it connected to Cambridge Audio Aero 6, they shake the flor whilst watching movies. I use 5.0.2 set up (yes no subwoofer, don't need one) . two in ceiling speakers do the Atmos job.

Already own an Onkyo - just came here just for the comments!

troll alert

I've got the same Dilemma and I had decided on the Denon until the price drop of the Onkyo.

Picked one up last night, swapped out as a straight replacement for my older non 4k onkyo no problems. The old one has been an excellent amp for the last 4 years as was the onkyo before it.

It's pretty much exactly the same as the old other than the 4k 60hz support which is perfecto from the brief tests i have done. Sound is identical to old, prolly limited somewhat by my aging speakers/setup. The network services are nice to have but I will probably never use them as you need to go into them before being able to "cast" (spotify et al)

Overall the same great amp i know and love from onkyo with stunning 4k hdr support that my tv demanded. For me, a very worthy upgrade

trying to decide between the Onkyo and the Denon...

DENON AVRX2200W
£329 - Richer Sounds
http://www.richersounds.com/product/av-receivers/denon/avrx2200w/deno-avrx2200-blk

ONKYO TXNR646
£299 - Richer Sounds
http://www.richersounds.com/product/av-receivers/onkyo/txnr646/onky-tx-nr646-blk

I went into the shop aiming to upgrade my Yamaha with an updated Yamaha for the £300 mark and was actually offered this Onkyo for £300 instead of the asking price of £350+ a few months ago.

I can genuinely say this receiver is absolutely beautiful, the sound compared to my old Yamaha RX-V375 is night and day apart (using the same speakers) and has much better features. I've been told that the Atmos update is coming out this summer at some point, but even so, for this price, I don't think it can be beaten in terms of quality.

Ignore the usual moans about unknown brands and temperatures as this is worth every penny of your money.

Yes I've been down that road already, the main thing i prefer about using HDMI straight from device to the TV though is it allows you to use different picture settings on the TV for each device, if everything is connected to the AVR and you then use one HDMI from AVR to the TV this means all devices then have to use the same picture settings on that input on the TV.
I have use different picture settings on the HDMI inputs on my TV.

Cheers, will give that a try

The long winter evenings must just fly by

Classic photo

Good evening how are you ? A lot of bites tonight it's a big pond !

It has hdmi passthrough so you can have the receiver off during the day and still get audio/video...

onkyo deals - great fun on here. always the same

You don't say

some of us do.. so you were a bit late with your "joke" about 16 other people beat you to it

Do people not read the 6 existing pages prior to posting? :smile:

Better to find out the facts before you post Onkyo have made great amps for years!

Obviously you don't know anything about amps then..Onkyo been around for many years

LOL Epic

Unheard of brand!! Get a Matsui!!!

(and I was here for the original - evening LG :smile: )

Obviously scared to leave your comfort zone this "unknown brand" consistently beats the "known" brands in reviews from well respected sources. I own one and it absolutely outshines my old sony amp in every way.

Common issue with a lot of remotes, the conductive contacts wear away over time, take the remote control apart, clean the metal contacts on the circuit board with some cleaning alcohol, then get some baking foil and cut some very tiny pieces and superglue them to the back of the problematic keys replacing the worn conductive rubber

what joke? unknown brand. cold

thinking of upgrading setup to 4k. I currently have a Yamaha 3069. Would this be disappointing after that?

Unknown brand? Are you serious?!

Good machine for a good price!

I've had an Onkyo for years and it's been great - the only minor issue is some of the buttons on the remote have to be pressed REALLY hard to register.

But do ALL receivers take a couple of seconds to switch source? I know there's a lot of processing and HDMI handshaking going on, but my TV could do it far quicker...

someone should start a petition to get them to change their brand name

great price! paid £500 for txnr636 , still going strong, love Dolby Atmos, havent been to cinema since!

Still using my 15 year old Denon Avr3802, And it's got an internal fan.

I'd still stick to a known brand like Sony rather than Onkyo ;-)

I'm going to ignore all the Onkyo jokes (getting a bit stale after 6 years) but surely I'm not the only one who reads "Atmos" and immediately thinks "Oric" ? Probably showing my age there....

That's good

​Oh dear, it's like taking candy from a baby.

*potentially stupid q incoming*

Is HDR support a consideration for amps or not relevant? ie, just passthrough. I see things like the nvidia shield offering Netflix HDR support which I would obviously want to plug into the amp

EDIT: hokey cokey, I see it is a necessary consideration and this model supports it

http://www.uk.onkyo.com/en/products/tx-nr646-124318.html?tab=Details

+1 for the Denon. Got the package from Richer Sounds with the MA Mass 5.1 speaker pack and it's a massive improvement on my old Sony AVR/Yamaha speaker setup (Agree Sony are better than unknown brand Onkyo btw..!) although probably mostly down to the new speakers and cables I reckon. The Denon is the best featured and vfm AVR around at the moment..imo.

nice find

I love my AVR-X2200W unit, but have never used an Onkyo system to compare tbh. I also have an AVR-X2000 which whilst older is still just as good. The app is nice to use and has some real nice views on how the audio is being processed without having to look on the big screen for it.

I had to put a call into Denon about the Stereo mode on Internet Radio / Airplay making the LFE channel flap badly, and they were very helpful about it - after I re-did the calibration it was fine.

Nothing wrong with using optical for audio out if you want as well though for basic devices like a Tivo/Sky box. Also means you can output audio/video direct to TV via HDMI and use TV audio for day to day viewing and then have the optical out as well for the times you do want to use your surround setup.

sigh

Really, "Unheard of brand".........just because Sony spends BILLIONS on marketing. I have an Onkyo surround sound and is far better than generic Sony tat!

Really, "Unheard of brand".........just because Sony spends BILLIONS on marketing. I have an Onkyo surround sound and is far better than generic Sony tat!

Excellent. I have a small dream. To be able to buy a house, bigger than my current, terraced, cracker box where I can have a room used for cinema and gaming. Aaaaaaaah how the other half live :smiley:

No not overkill at all, i have them setup in a 7.2.4 configuration with Kef R series front and surrounds, they sound great and match the other Kefs tonally

I got mine for a good price new, i can hook you up with a good Kef dealer if you drop me a pm

Hmm, this or the slightly more expensive (and even less well known :wink: ) Denon AVRX2200W?

Thanks.

Thank you.

Arcam :smile: Richer sounds weren't even allowed to post their prices on their website, should it offend people who think it's vulgar to discount.

Lovely gear though! Few reliability issues on their (older at least) AV amps, but not much can beat the musical quality, if you use one for both.

i learnt how good Onkyo products were 20 years ago when i tried to build my own home entertainment system and could afford to buy every brand apart from Onkyo:-)

Get a new joke already

basically many people in the uk dont know how good onkyo is in home entertainment business
first i thought they were joking but i realized they really dont know
the yogurt comparison is a dead joke too
as a matter of fact its good for us as more of their products is left for people who knows the value of onkyo!

My 607 was collected fixed and returned for free. It was 5 years and 11 months old at the time.
Now deciding between this and the slightly more expensive Denon 2200 hmmmmm????

https://www.amazon.fr/Onkyo-SKH410-Haut-parleurs-compatibles-Dolby/dp/B00O8LANJA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464245035&sr=8-1&keywords=atmos+speakers

£30 Cheaper than the UK. Get good reviews. Not bad for £85 odd.

Who the bloody hell is Onkio. Aldi own brand?

Are these not the brand plagued with the HDMI Board issue ?

i get the joke now after making a comment the other week about people saying they have never heard of them.cracking deal.heat.

Hi, I've been considering those Kefs for a while, did you find a good deal on them anywhere and aren't they overkill for Atmos duties?

This unit won't do 5.1.4, that's equivalent to 9.1, it only has 7 amps, so 5.1.2

and upward firing speakers are a waste of time, furthermore other than the angle of the speaker there is nothing else special about them, they are just standard speakers, ceiling mount or don't bother

i have 4 x KEF CI200RR-THX in my ceiling, pricey but worth it

Dolby Atmos 5.1.4, the 4 is the speakers in the ceiling

​Whatever you do don't search "Onkyo" on HUKD! You'll see this comment or similar every time. :-)

oh will need 2 atmos speakers upward firing ones to go with my original Kef's

any recommendations don't think I will go ceiling based

He's from planet Loughboro?

eh? why optical? it will hook up via HDMI, optical for legacy devices

Yes, via digital optical out...

Can this be used (connected) with a Virgin Media Tivo box please?

This would be a massive upgrade from my Budget TX SR 308 , but do I need it

interesting, tempted

It has a 7.1 set up or a 5.1.2 set up with atmos speakers. Well worth £299 it has 4k passthrough and sound as well as 3d. Streams music vis the net and through bluetooth on your pc/laptop. Only thing is I do have one of these but now want a 9.1 system however twice the price of a 7.1 system just to add two speakers

Better off with a no name rather than any old brand!

happy with mine. Only use it for Sonos and Vinyl and multi zone speakers. Does a good job. no issues

Most 4k devices will have dual HDMI outputs, you can also get a HDMI 2.0 splitter, admittedly they aren't cheap at the moment, but will be eventually, there isn't really much need for HDMI 2 on your av receiver, you end up either paying extra for the privilege or the unit ends up with cut down power or cheaper components, such as this unit, it has lost a lot of weight and power compared to previous models in this range in favour of things like atmos,dts-x, bluetooth and wifi

What planet are you from?

Does anyone know if it passes HDR? It's HDMI 2.0a but doesn't mention anywhere about HDR signal. Also it says 100w x7. So does that mean it is a 7.1 setup or a 5.1 setup with 2 atmos ceiling speakers? Or neither?

Lidl actually.

I like the look of this set
http://m.richersounds.com/#!/product/PAH012777

Quite a saving on the speakers.

It's on on going joke on here, which you were oblivious to.

Walk away mate

It's a side project to their yogurt division.

Ah ok, then if you have good airflow, then thats a little different, same for dedicated ventilated av units

Good evening everyone

They do on the 608, they are always on, but not on the 609 and onwards,

im guessing you have a 608 then, or another model ending in '08

605. And it's not a sealed unit. Has good airflow :smiley:.

Agree I've seen some silly people put things on top.

The fans kick in regardless of ventilation. If they need fans it's due to design not stupid people.

Which unit is it? Onkyo started putting fans in these for stupid people, fans inside an av unit is generally a no no, but they made the fans kick in when the unit hits a certain temperature to keep everyone happy, and stupid people safe from overheating their units

4 inches above mine and been fine for 5 years :smiley:

On that note, i see people put receivers into their AV units with inadequate ventilation and then wonder why they fail
This unit has a few hundred vents on the top for a reason and needs at least 8 inches clear space above

Personally, i wouldn't go for this unit, Atmos on such a low spec receiver is pretty pointless, you need 9.2 or ideally 11.2 and more for a decent Atmos setup

Good deal, own one of these, found the best place to get the Atmos speakers was Amazon France

.. here we go!

And here he is!

I agree

Onkyo, unheard of brand but you can't go wrong with a Sony.

He is, don't bite.....

never heard of this brand, get Sony Yamaha or denon

I thought they made yogurt?

Please tell me you are joking ??????????

Great amp, I love mine.

And so it starts...... again :smile:

It's a blast from every Onkyo thread in the last six years.

Who??

CAST & REEL......there is a big un out there...........

That's a blast from the past.

Better deals around boxing day.

What other flavours do they do?

There's a slimline on here somewhere, I think that's the feed where that person has made himself famous. Cheddar cheese? Never heard of it! I much prefer cheese strings!

absolute bargain, unfortunately it's too high to fit my recently purchased AV unit....!

Better off with an Onkyo than a Sony.
Heat added.

Onkyo Corporation is a Japanese consumer electronics manufacturer, specializing in premiumhome cinema and audio equipment, including receivers, surround sound speakers and other portable devices. 
just because you've never heard of them doesn't make it rubbish.
good product, good price

Great amp heat on the price
Paid £519 for mine
Did get 6 years warranty so of it does turn Into a sofa which is very very unlikely as I have never had any issues with onkyo
Will just by other one ☺

Sony don't do sofas like Onkyo do sofas.

Agree

Better off with a Sony rather than a no name brand...