WOW - now even cheaper - Dell Vostro 3900 desktop - i5 4460 3.2GHz, Win7Pro/Win8.1Pro, W10 Pro , 4GB, 500GB HD £250.98 at Ebuyer. This is the lowest price this has even been at.
If you thought my Laptops Direct deal for £279 for this was good, get ready to save even more with Ebuyer... oh lordy!
Comes with Win7 Pro installed, Win8.1Pro DVD with free Win10Pro upgrade.
Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz
4GB RAM + 500GB HDD
DVD Writer
Intel HD Graphics
Windows 7 Pro / 8.1 Pro and free upgrade to Win10 Pro
MOD EDIT - slight price increase from £249.99 to £250.98 (Sunday 29th May)
Top comments
spannerzone
28 May 1610#28
yeah and the dodgy Windows.... if you're comparing like for like it can't conveniently exclude key (expensive/critical) items
A Windows Pro licence, or rather a legitimately purchased licence is £120 and that's for OEM which could be argued is still wrong as retail should be bought by non PC builders, but I'll let that slide, it's still £120 for Windows Pro to compare another deal/parts against this deal which has Win Pro OEM included.
Average prices to build this are:
£140 cpu - i5 4460 incl heatsink/fan
£35 motherboard, your choice of budget mobo
£14 4GB memory, Crucial
£32 500GB hard drive
£25 cheap n' cheerful case
£18 cheap/n' blow PSU
£13 DVD
£120 for Windows Pro OEM
£5 for nasty keyboard
£5 for mouse
That comes to £407, ok so ditch the Windows licence cos you don't mind dodgy, and forget mouse/keyboard, so that's £277 for which you have to build yourself, order all the bits, hope it works and still have spent £27 more than buying this one :smile:
billysablo
28 May 168#26
guys guys go easy. so he missed a motherboard. add one on its not that hard. then move on to the missing PSU :P
moneybag
28 May 166#20
spannerzone
28 May 165#39
sigh.....Of course I know many people don't buy Windows licences, I do my best to avoid paying for them if I can too but when comparing one deal against another it must be comparable in every respect otherwise you might as well say a raspberry pi for £30 does the same as this Dell, they're both computers after all. You could argue that deals posted about food are pointless because you can just go steal it from Tesco rather than pay like other mugs, or a McDonalds is much better value than a £10 steak, again comparisons need to be fair.
All comments (183)
spannerzone
28 May 164#1
Not content with my Dell deal from yesterday, I've scoured the globe and found the Dell i5 Vostro desktop at an even more fabulous price, change your underwear and take a look at this superb deal. Best price ever I think.
spannerzone
28 May 161#2
Lots of discussion on this on the last couple of times it was posted: Link1 Link2
These 2 old deal links talk all about upgrade options etc.... hopefully will help answer some questions. Apologies for those getting sick of these Vostro desktop deals :smile:
Yes it is, I don't need another desktop but at this price....... :smile:
I paid £379 for this back in Feb - arghhh :confused:
pileemhigh
28 May 161#5
Blimey! :confused: .... Grabs credit card and pops underwear into the wash.... Heat!
spannerzone
28 May 16#6
Don't forget 2% quidco and 1.65% TCB
A quick tot up on PC Parts picker and I got to around £400 to buy a similar (basic) motherboard, i5 4460, Win7 Pro licence, 4GB ram, 500GB HD, DVD, case, psu, mouse, keyboard. Then you have to assemble it :smile:
robtallica
28 May 161#7
Yep. Ordered one. Thanks for your comments on the other thread. Remembered to Quidco.
Cos2k3
28 May 161#8
Great deal
chrisredmayne
28 May 16#9
hmm the description...
Put real power behind your everyday tasks
From video conferencing to creating presentations, with up to a 4th Gen Intel® Core™ i7 processor.
ha, I hate ebuyer
algloster
28 May 163#10
Good find spannerzone, was just reading the other post
Regardless of what people say these basic boxes are a bargain. After ram, ssd and gpu upgrade they will be sufficient for 99% of the people 99% of the time for around £400. In regards to homebuild unless you are a hard core gamer running in well excess of 1080P or want a very specific case why bother - the maths doesn't stack up
As you discussed on your other post, I sit in front of a E8400 C2D at work (admittedly with an SSD and 8 gig of ram) but its more than sufficient to run full ACAD and Creative Cloud. The difference between this and newer i5's in the office is a 10 second versus a 6 second boot (after bios) and first time program launch may be marginally quicker. This isn't the 90s anymore where you had to drop £1k and them replace every 2-3 years, Moores law for hardware has far outpaced software requirements.
For people asking should they buy this the answer is yes, for internet surfing and mild office duties it will be more than sufficient for the next 5 years, if in doubt buy the extra ram and fit an SSD and it will be many times more powerful than you phone which you probably spend more time using each day.
spannerzone
28 May 16#11
Good comments, some people seem hell bent on down voting something just because it doesn't meet their own personal requirements. This desktop will meet the typical demands of the majority of computer users out there and if it doesn't then buy something else, that's why we're so lucky to have such a choice. If this was an atom based CPU with 2GB ram and 32GB eSSD soldered to the board then I'd say it had limited capabilities and performance, but this i5 with decent ram and drive isn't at all bad and can have decent upgrades performed while still being a very cheap price for what you're getting.
There is no way on earth that you can buy these parts and build your own for cheaper unless you conveniently forgot to include key parts like the O/S
scousechris
28 May 163#12
Actual Nerd here. Good price, couldn't build it for that.
DatAlbino
28 May 161#13
i5 4460 £140, 4GB ram About 15 quid, 500GB HDD about 30, DVD writer £15 (for a Samsung), 20 quid for Windows 8.1 pro via somewhere like MMOGA or g2a
Added up = around 220, plus case is about 250, 260
but you would be able to custom pick your RAM, HDD, writer, etc... and could more easily upgrade things like a modern/better CPU, GPU, more RAM, SSD, if you built it
good deal if you don't know how to build a pc, but if you do I would suggest building your own with similar specs at a lower price
arsenal79place
28 May 16#14
Can this be plugged into a TV to use as a monitor? What do I need to use to do that?
philb100
28 May 16#15
Had to take the plunge with this. Though I've got a laptop my desktop is out of the ark (an old amd single Core XP 2.4 gig thing would you believe!) I hope this will be a bit faster:) I assume I can upgrade the graphics in the future if needed.
mk-donald
28 May 162#16
Great spot OP!
Had thought I'd missed out on this from last month at c£300. So a great saving!
DatAlbino: Think you've forgotten there's a motherboard in this PC (most self-builders remember to use one!) - about £35; as well as keyboard and mouse; and a warranty and 100% legitimate Windows 7/8.1/10 Pro!
arsenal..: it has both HDMI and VGA connections so depending on what your TV has (spare).
philb100: it has "PCIe x16 (Graphics): 1 Slot". The only significant constraint might be the power requirements of that optional graphics card upgrade as the inbuilt PSU has wattage/connection limitations (based on my past reading of these threads).
Does this have a motherboard? I can't see one, if so I apologise
djb123
28 May 163#19
I don't think they could call it a PC without one.
Have you ever built a PC? :smiley:
moneybag
28 May 166#20
muttyhc
28 May 16#21
No way you can build like-for-like for the same price here, a very good deal overall. Can it manage a GTX 960 or is the 950 the max?
DatAlbino
28 May 16#22
i5 6600k, 120 GB samsung Evo SSD, MSI Z170A pro mboard, gtx 960 4gb, 1TB HDD, CX 600W PSU in a Zalman z11 plus case, yes I have. I just didn't see the mention of a motherboard anywhere.
In fact looking at it again I still can't see the mention of a motherboard included, would you mind giving me the mboard name please?
philb100
28 May 16#23
Cheers, Sounds good. I don't play games so would not need to go for a top end graphics card, just some decent nvidia one I was thinking with 1 or 2 GB memory.
May up the Ram as well and I think it will cover me for what I need to do.
andrewt
28 May 16#24
Any good for a NAS?
spannerzone
28 May 16#25
Some classic examples of cold voting based on assumptions that carry no weight :smile:
billysablo
28 May 168#26
guys guys go easy. so he missed a motherboard. add one on its not that hard. then move on to the missing PSU :P
djb123
28 May 161#27
Just because its not specifically mentioned, it doesn't mean it hasn't got one. Try building a PC without one.
It will be a Dell motherboard that will only usually be sold as a replacement part.
spannerzone
28 May 1610#28
yeah and the dodgy Windows.... if you're comparing like for like it can't conveniently exclude key (expensive/critical) items
A Windows Pro licence, or rather a legitimately purchased licence is £120 and that's for OEM which could be argued is still wrong as retail should be bought by non PC builders, but I'll let that slide, it's still £120 for Windows Pro to compare another deal/parts against this deal which has Win Pro OEM included.
Average prices to build this are:
£140 cpu - i5 4460 incl heatsink/fan
£35 motherboard, your choice of budget mobo
£14 4GB memory, Crucial
£32 500GB hard drive
£25 cheap n' cheerful case
£18 cheap/n' blow PSU
£13 DVD
£120 for Windows Pro OEM
£5 for nasty keyboard
£5 for mouse
That comes to £407, ok so ditch the Windows licence cos you don't mind dodgy, and forget mouse/keyboard, so that's £277 for which you have to build yourself, order all the bits, hope it works and still have spent £27 more than buying this one :smile:
DatAlbino
28 May 16#29
Well I got royally mugged off ^^
I would personally build one but I spose for those so inclined to buy as prebuild this is good deal yes
that motherboard has got to suck tho, a stock mboard?
DatAlbino
28 May 16#30
You do know that the vast majority of people don't buy the 120 quid licence? no matter what windows say no one can chase it up and no one in their right mind should pay for the licence. Im sure the multi billion £ company will survive without their extra licence money
elbs
28 May 161#31
nice one spanner.
tawse57
28 May 161#32
Does this have a slot for a graphics card?
Divvy
28 May 161#33
Yes, would work as a NAS but
1. A NAS should have a server rated HDD
2. A NAS should have a HDD bigger than 500Gb
3. A NAS should be cheaper than £250
However the bundled power supply wattage and its connectors MAY be a limit on what card you sought to add.
ie "NOTE: Vostro V 3900 :Total power output of +5 V and +3.30 V can not exceed 90 W"
(Dell manual shows Dell themselves offered nvidia GT705 and GTX745 video cards as options)
Some really great deals on refurbished units from eBay at the same price but with more ram and ssd's.
I suggest you check those out if you're not bothered about it being new
JC80
28 May 16#37
If I dont plan on gaming at all do i need to upgrade the graphics card?
Midge
28 May 161#38
Had to buy one at this price, thanks spannerzone.
spannerzone
28 May 165#39
sigh.....Of course I know many people don't buy Windows licences, I do my best to avoid paying for them if I can too but when comparing one deal against another it must be comparable in every respect otherwise you might as well say a raspberry pi for £30 does the same as this Dell, they're both computers after all. You could argue that deals posted about food are pointless because you can just go steal it from Tesco rather than pay like other mugs, or a McDonalds is much better value than a £10 steak, again comparisons need to be fair.
tahir_owen
28 May 161#40
yes, you can use a low powered card like the 750 ti, if you want something a little more powerful you'll need to get two adapters.. a sata to 6 pin adapter... imo, you can use a card upto about 180 watts (TDP). A 750 ti uses less than 75watts https://www.amazon.co.uk/Startech-Power-6-Pin-Express-Adapter/dp/B007Y91B80
pc2009
28 May 16#41
if I buy this pc do they send win7 CD if I wanted to reinstall the windows in the future?
spannerzone
28 May 161#42
No not at all, in fact the inbuilt graphics are fine for most things except mid/high end gaming. You can play full HD videos without a problem, the CPU/graphics is quite decent for built in.
mk-donald
28 May 16#43
No as you get integrated Intel HD Graphics 4600 via HDMI/VGA anyway.
No, they only supply a Win 8.1 DVD for reinstallation. You could image the current Win7 installation using Macrium reflect (free, or use other image software like Acronis)
There is a webpage to request the Win7 DVD but it never worked for me. Some people contact support and managed to get a free install CD supplied, if you can be bothered. I just luckily have various Windows discs around..... it was possible to download Win7 officially but that's stopped, other websites still host it if you search. http://www.dell.com/support/contents/uk/en/ukbsdt1/article/Product-Support/Self-support-Knowledgebase/software-and-downloads/dell-backup-solutions/Media-backup
tawse57
28 May 16#45
I bought a Geforce GT 610 a few years ago for my old desktop when i thought its graphics card was dying. But the desktop has since died so just wondered whether the Geforce would be better than the intel VGA on the chip?
Edit:
Ignore this - Toms Hardware says that the onboard graphics is better than the 610.
pc2009
28 May 16#46
Thank you for your information, by the way the link you sent doesn't work.
tahir_owen
28 May 161#47
no.... the HD4600 is almost twice as fast, which still isn't very fast but still
neilc
28 May 16#48
I'm tempted and wondered about adding a SSD - hukd
I know nothing about these things so please bear with me, is it doable and practical? will I need a windows disc and is it a pretty straightforward operation for a ludite?!
Thanks
spannerzone
28 May 162#49
anyone buying this and wanting to remain using Windows 7 for the time being may want to consider temporarily installing Windows 10 onto another hard drive just so your machine's ID gets validated for the free Windows 10 upgrade offer which expires July 29th this year. After that date Win10 will likely be a chargeable upgrade.
So if you have a spare old hard drive with nothing on it, why not fit it in place of the existing drive (disconnect the drive so you don't install over the Win7). Read this guide (section "Doing a clean installation of Windows 10") - this pretty much covers what needs to be done. This will register your machine's hardware ID (the embedded Windows licence key) with Windows 10 validation server so if you install Win10 in the future, the machine will be recognised and licenced for Win10 Pro in the future if you install it and at no cost to you.
HUKD adds something at the start of that link... paste into a browser, delete the bit that magically appears>>http://hotukdeals.digidip.net/http%253A//
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Rubisco
28 May 16#52
Currently 950 is the max, but rumour has it the GTX 1060 will be 75w, released this autumn and comparable performance to the 970.
Musicrab
28 May 16#53
or add it as an additional drive, install Windows10 and run a dual-boot.
spannerzone
28 May 16#54
I just say disconnect the original drive so you don't accidentally install overtop Win7.... but yes, once installed a dual boot is an option
tahir_owen
28 May 161#55
it's how they make their monies..... :smirk:
Blasphemous
28 May 16#56
Crickey! This is a great price for a really good machine.
mk-donald
28 May 16#57
6:20pm update: The eBuyer basket shows how many left - was around 25 when OP posted, now down to just 8 left, so don't delay too long if you're interested - that's how I missed out on last month's batch (at £300 from Dell, a blessing in disguise lol).
tawse57
28 May 16#58
Thanks OP - I ordered one. My desktop died about 10 days ago so I have been looking for a bargain.
I am not sure if I will get one though as it said there were only 8 left when I ordered and apparently 8 people were about to buy one. No idea how true that is.
Aliboy
28 May 16#59
If I wanted to upgrade the PSU how hard would it be ?
benfin
28 May 16#60
amazing price
tawse57
28 May 16#61
PSUs should be standard size but reading the other deals on this some have commented that it was difficult to get a PSU to fit. I find that a bit hard to believe as the PSU is supposed to be standard size - as I just said. (I am repeating myself.).
I wonder if the Dell is simply just very well designed to use their own PSU and that the cables coming out of third party ones maybe do not have enough space inside the Dell case.
In terms of fitting a new PSU it should be easy enough. If I was getting a replacement I would get a modular one which allowed me to attach the cables I needed only and thus not have loads of unneeded cables talking up space and heating up the case.
neilc
28 May 16#62
Anyone know how accurate ebuyers stock count is? I bought one about an hour ago and it said 6 left in stock - now there still seem to be 6 left!
spannerzone
28 May 16#63
The PSU appears to be standard ATX and the case has space around it at the back, it would look like another PSU should fit ok although I've not tried myself
a little bit, not even sure if the dell's power supply is a standard fitting.
I dont think it's worth it in my opinion. Even if this was my own post, I would still say the same
tahir_owen
28 May 16#65
Not sure why you want to upgrage the power supply... if you were going to use a more power video card, you would want to overclock the CPU to get the most out of it, but you the bios's overclocking features are locked.....
CH405
28 May 16#66
(I think you missed the cost of a motherboard in the above...)
CH405
28 May 16#67
and PSU
DatAlbino
28 May 16#68
yeah I did, I already owned up to that, sorry
I still feel like a pc builder could do a better job with custom stuff, cos the stock PSU and mboard sucks imo, but I guess for an average pc user or for someone who cant build PCs this is a cracker
Im a big pc gamer so I guess my standards of 'not good enough' are niche
Rocketronnie7
28 May 16#69
Good deal.
What wattage PSU does this have?
NVM found out myself
Power
Device Type Power supply
Nominal Voltage ( 50/60 Hz )
Power Provided 300 Watt
musical
28 May 16#70
Tahir,
I know you're trying to be helpful but you do write some pretty uninformed stuff. You should never put a 180W TDP graphics card into this. You'd have just the CPU and graphics card with 264W TDP from a 300W PSU and they'd want 12V and from what I remember this alone would be way over spec. On top of that the motherboard, RAM, drives and USB devices will all want power. Sure, a GTX 750Ti or 950 but nothing more unless you want a machine that won't boot or you want to test the quality of your insurance firm's loss adjusters.
Rocketronnie7
28 May 16#71
Did a quick build to see if this could be beaten I could get the same.
Got £284.12 without cheaping out on a Case/PSU if I did that I could get it to around £250 but that's not including windows great this is a great deal tbh.
Only downfall I see is if your wanting to do some serious gaming on this it may need a PSU upgrade although you could get a 750ti / 950 without a 6-pin power plug and should be able to play atleast medium settings or above depending on the game.
muttyhc
28 May 16#72
expire, all gone.
tahir_owen
28 May 16#73
You do realise, Ram, hard drives and the like are very low powered devices? it's only the CPU and GPU which use a lot of power. Please go check out review on computer system power consumption.. Total system consumption while in use is probably somewhere around 20-40 watts minus the CPU and GPU. Please do some research beforehand....
when they have the comparison between the polaris and gtx 950. they had total system wattage at 86 watts, the entire system was using 40 watts with the cpu.- the GPU.
have a nice day :wink:
tawse57
28 May 16#74
This is apparently a very quiet PC. That is worth money IMPO and, having built a lot of my own quiet PCs, it can cost a lot extra to get a PC fairly quiet.
The Dell PSUs are normally very efficient. An efficient Dell 300 PSU will most likely be better than cheaper slightly more powerful PSUs.
If you decide to go down the SSD option and you remove the HDD altogether you would save a bit of power consumption.
If you add in the RAM, the cost of a SSD and even a new PSU and better graphics card you are still below £400 but would have a very good PC for that money.
Seems to me though that most people would be happy with it out of the box. If my order completes I will order the extra RAM and probably a 250GB SSD. I will then use the HHD as a backup device.
I have been looking around in recent weeks for a Dell laptop or desktop deal. On the Dell Outlet it was going to cost me near £400, when VAT and delivery is included, for some of their i3 desktops. Their new i5 desktops are very expensive IMPO and you don't save much on the Outlet if you save at all.
tahir_owen
28 May 163#75
I think spanners deserves 10% off his next dell purchase
tawse57
28 May 16#76
According to the Crucial site the maximum memory is 16GB for this PC.
So, is there any actual performance advantage in having 16GB in this Vostro over having 8GB? Or is it a case of diminishing returns over 8GB?
I found no real benefit in going from 4 to 8GB other than when running virtual machines, I don't game and it was only running a vm did I see the 4GB get used right up and 8gb made it run nicely. Can't see much need at the moment to go for 16GB
tahir_owen
28 May 16#77
No returns.... 8GB is plenty. Even gaming with 16GB is debateble....
You going for computer salesman of the year or something.
tawse57
28 May 16#81
Thanks. I will order the extra 4GB to take it up to 8GB.
The cost for going to 16GB is a bit prohibitive anyhow at the moment.
If anyone can recommend a decent 250GB SSD drive for under £50 I would be grateful. I see that there is a Crucial 250GB BX200 SSD for £50.99 on Amazon UK but some of the reviews say that it only has a small fast cache.
Not having used an SSD before I am unsure how important this is or not?
I have got Crucial BX100, Samsung 830 and 840 and Sandisk Ultra, all been fine. Avoid Kingston V300 at all costs. Not sure about the Crucial BX200, might only be an issue if transferring large sized files, if I recall?
I manage with 120GB SSD drives and use the other 500GB for storage, depends on your budget but I've yet to use more than 60% of the SSD. You can get 120GB SSD's from £25
One thing to note, the Vostro 3900 has a second slot for a second hard drive - the smaller 2.5" SSD will not fit in here easily, even with a 2.5" to 3.5" adaptor you will find the power cable is too short unless your adaptor is designed to mount the SSD offset (most mount them dead centre) - hard to explain but the SATA power plug is shared from the other drive and it's designed for 2 x 3.5" drives exactly. You might need an adaptor like THIS - the simpler alternative is to mount the SSD under the optical drive, you'll need a 12" SATA data cable but there is sufficient slack in the spare SATA power lead in that location.
This pic shows how little slack there is on the 2 SATA HD power plugs
tawse57
28 May 16#83
Didn't you attach the SSD under the optical drive using double-sided sticky tape?
DAMNOME
28 May 16#84
I mount my ssd’s with Velcro...
spannerzone
28 May 161#86
No I mounted mine on its edge under the optical drive using 1 small screw :smile:
Someone else said they velcroed theirs under the optical drive, there's space to do that quite easily.
spannerzone
28 May 162#87
Well I'm deeply concerned that desktop sales are plummeting and am doing my bit to help the industry :smile:
tawse57
28 May 16#88
Out of interest, what is the vibration situation with SSDs? I presume they are not as sensitive to vibration and shock as much as platter HDDs due to no moving parts?
spannerzone
28 May 161#89
They're fairly tough, no moving parts so they can take some knocks. Just a circuit board and components, so unless you smack it hard, drop it etc it can take vibration etc without issue.
philb100
28 May 16#90
Does anyone know what monitor resolution this will support with the built in graphics? assuming my orders Ok and I get this I think a new monitor will be in order soon as well and not sure what would be good.
tawse57
28 May 16#91
According to this review it is capable of driving 2 Full HD monitors out of the box. So a good 1080P FHD monitor should be fine.
Idea: (based on the photo) move the HD to the lower bay on the end of the power cable - ie P5 - and then the upper bay could have the SSD and the P3 connector has more slack & can be in more varied position?
mk-donald. that's genius :smile: why the hell didn't I think of that :smile:
funny how you can miss the blindingly obvious!
I think the spacing between plugs may still be too tight but well worth a try, the problem is that most 2.5" apaptors place the SSD in the middle so you have to stretch the cable across at 45 degrees.
spannerzone
29 May 161#99
It's back in stock at £250.98 now, mods please can you un-expire the Ebuyer deal?
magicjay1986
29 May 162#100
Updated :smiley:
spannerzone
29 May 162#101
Thanks mods, we love you :smile:
oh and thanks to Buzzard for pm'ing me to let me know the deal was back, we love you too :smile:
spannerzone
29 May 162#102
And that's the thing, yes a custom PC builder could build a much better specified machine but not for less, not for this price even, when you take into account comparing like for like.
If you're a gamer then your needs are certainly much different to non gamers, any serious gamer should not considering a low cost home/office computer like this. But for an occasional gamer that isn't into latest games or high resolution gaming then this will be a cheap way to get semi decent performance. The motherboard will be basic but it won't perform badly, the days of cheap motherboards also performing badly have long gone (since the early 2000's) but the younger members here may not have come across nasty PC Chips motherboards :smile:
alexrose16
29 May 16#103
Does this mobo and case have room to put a large graphics card in it? Please get back to me!
spannerzone
29 May 16#104
It can take a medium sized card but remember, the power supply does NOT have any molex aux connectors that many larger graphics cards require.
Newbold
29 May 16#105
Out of stock again?
thebuzzer
29 May 16#106
out of stock
mickjack
29 May 16#107
Was upped to £290ish last night, 11am Sunday 29th showing -as above- 'out of stock' no price showing.
jb66
29 May 16#108
well being oos saved me £250
spannerzone
29 May 16#109
out of stock - again!
shabbird
29 May 16#110
This is scary. Ebuyer is displaying Dell Vostro 3900 MT Desktop' is discontinued;
spannerzone
29 May 161#111
Maybe they don't plan to restock this any more, it is an earlier generation CPU and products move on quite quickly. Hopefully nothing to worry about if you already placed an order.
shabbird
29 May 16#112
saw they have the same dell vostro 3900 MT but its an i3 now. Better check the processor when it comes.
Ive had dell before. 15+ years still works although not used it for 10 years.
philb100
29 May 16#113
When I log into the site and check my order it says goods allocated and will be delivered by Monday the 6th of June so sounds promising.
tawse57
29 May 16#114
Just got an email saying that my payment has been accepted and the order is processing through their warehouse.
This is a bargain little desktop. No way can I come near it in terms of specs for the price elsewhere.
robtallica
29 May 16#115
Same. Looks alright.
Hi Robert,
Your order is being processed and payment has been taken successfully.
This means your order is moving through our warehouse and will soon be passed over to our couriers for delivery.
tawse57
29 May 16#116
The email also included the specs mentioning an i5 CPU.
I spent the last fortnight on the Dell Outlet hoping to get a used desktop for about £350 but they wanted about £450 to £500 for the refurbished i5s. They have their most basic i5 advertised as £399 on their site for brand new but whenever you click on it or add it to the basket it comes out as £499.
So, chuffed with this.
spannerzone
29 May 161#117
Guys I can't see you having a problem here, Ebuyer just sold out and the model is being discontinued I suspect, at least as far as Ebuyer are concerned (Dell still have it for sale)
I'm fairly sure you'll get the i5 exactly as ordered.
The i3 version was always for sale from Ebuyer and when this i5 was £250 the i3 was £303 (crazy!)
MINHASTARIQ
30 May 16#118
I have missed this deal... where do I get the same price with same specification.
spannerzone
30 May 16#119
You can't right now, the deal is over and at this time the cheapest price is £301 from Ballicom. If you keep checking Google over the next few weeks you might find the price drops again. The price has been going up and down for several months, so it is a case of waiting.
Hi spannerzone - I missed the original deal but I'm interested in this one you have posted with the £100 cashback.
When I click on the cashback it says 'Business' can claim £100 cashback when trading in. Will there be any problem for a private sale? Also, I have an ancient Dell Inspiron I'm replacing so assume this is OK for the trade in?
spannerzone
30 May 16#122
While it's aimed at business there are HUKD members that have done this a few times, they seem to just put their name and address for company info (you could be a sole trader after all) so there shouldn't be any problems.
What can happen is the company that HP use to deal with the trade in computers have been known to, umm, distort the truth about what you sent in, they sometimes say parts are missing or damaged and offer less trade in. It seems very important to read the terms and conditions and make sure your trade in meets the criterior....they usually accept any XP computer that has a legitimate XP sticker on it but if it's not XP then they had a 6 year limit if I recall, but no limit on an XP computer. Make sure you return all accessories like power cables and take photos of all items returned. Having said all that, many people buy a knackered XP laptop that just about works from Ebay for £15 and use that.
Thanks for that. Very helpful spannerzone. I'm running an ancient Dell Inspiron that's 8 years old and came preloaded with Vista as the OS (it's still running Vista).
I notice that XP was a predecessor to Vista, so does that mean any Vista machine will be accepted as it's a newer OS than XP?
These Dell Inspinon cases are pretty generic so not sure if they bother delving deeper for the manufacturer date, or just go by the fact it's running XP or later OS systems?
Thanks again for your help.
spannerzone
30 May 16#124
As I understand it, any XP machine is accepted BUT any other operating system that came with the computer must be no more than 6 years old which really means a Win7 PC.
Now do they check that carefully and can they check the date accurately? I don't know..... I'd be inclined to find an XP sticker and put that on to cover all bases. What they do with the old PC is anyone's guess....surely they don't refurb and send to Africa?!
spannerzone
30 May 16#125
Just noticed the Trade in ends 31st May - but it's likely (but I am guessing) that HP will do another promotion in June
Terms state:
For your Trade-in to qualify for the promotion it must be a working, complete and undamaged, (reasonable wear and tear accepted) Laptop (minimum 10” screen size), Tablet (minimum 9” screen size) or Desktop. Your Trade-in must be no more than 6 years old (age limitations are not applicable to genuine Microsoft XP computers) and complete with all accessories including working battery and power supply where applicable.
CH405
31 May 161#126
I agree with you, but deals won't generally suit everyone.
(the PSU's in Vostro & the enterprise end of OEMs are normally 80 PLUS Bronze - minimum)
mk-donald
1 Jun 161#127
Wow - ours just got delivered by ParcelForce 24hr service!
Had eBuyer email late yesterday that despatched but site said no tracking information just that would be by promised date - ie free ship by 6/6.
Box top had clearly been retaped with Dell security tape once before; brilliantly packaged otherwise - USB keyboard & 'rest' with 2 discs for Windows 8 & Drivers, and a USB mouse hiding UNDERNEATH the system unit.
HOWEVER : just checked the Service Tag # on Dell UK's website and it's showing the Dell 1 year warranty as starting back in end October 2015 (with 2 warranties for 12m and 14m to Dec 16) ! I have opened an eNote with eBuyer on this topic!
Just tried getting technical support on Dell site for the Service Tag # and it says "There’s no match for that Service Tag. Retype the code or allow 48 hours for new devices to register on our site. " so MAYBE only when the system is first connected to the net does it get registered? [not bought a Dell for a LONG time]
sounds good. mine says awaiting dispatch. Strange they put windows 8 in can it not be upgraded straight from widows 7 to 10 which I think is better than 8.
mk-donald
1 Jun 16#129
I think you'd find the original listing showed:
"Operating System / Software
"OS Provided Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit Edition / Windows 7 Professional 64-bit Edition downgrade"
PS
Stand corrected - mine came with Windows 7 Pro SP1 pre-installed rather than 8, and seems initially during setup (ie the defaults offered) to think it belongs in the Netherlands rather than English/UK/GMT so may explain some of system past! Just claiming the Win 10 update.
spannerzone
1 Jun 161#130
I have had similar issues with warranties when buying Dell items from other sources - it seems that when Dell supply these to Ebuyer or Dabs they I think they start the warranty from date of supply from Dell or possibly Dell give the item a 15 month warranty know it'll be in a warehouse for a month or two before being sold. I think these Vostro's were bulk bought last autumn by some mega wholesaler who has been dumping stock of late, hence random deals appearing a lot lately.
A laser printer and the desktop I got from Ebuyer and Dabs both had this issue, I raised it with Dell and they said it was to do with the supplier (Ebuyer/Dabs) - Dabs didn't respond and I didn't bother asking Ebuyer. I figured I'd not lose sleep over it as these things rarely go wrong. Famous last words eh. :smile:
spannerzone
1 Jun 162#131
I would upgrade to Win 10 immedietly to ensure your machine's ID is given a valid authentication for Win10 entitlement.
If you want to keep Win7 for the time being and have a spare hard drive why not temp install spare hard drive, install Win10 from scratch, let it authenticate your machine ID to get Win10 Pro a genuine status then pop the Win7 hard drive back in.
Or just upgrade to 10 and be done with it.
mk-donald
1 Jun 16#132
Well it was advertised as having a Manufacturers 12 month warranty and hence I expect the Dell system to reflect that and not 12/14 months from late Oct 2015 [which tallies with your wholesaler theory]. I shall expect a proper response from eBuyer and until then system's staying in a state to be rejected as not as advertised!
(That said I have in the past found eBuyer really helpful with support of products with their retailer legal liabilities, rather than bonus of manufacturer offered warranty - eg why one buys Dell rather than ANO - even just giving me a 100% refund with a faulty Ethernet switch I reported (albeit only c£15)).
mk-donald
1 Jun 16#133
Got a prompt response from eBuyer to my eNote query, that I'm going to regard as satisfactory, even though would have preferred Dell online system to show correct date:
"This computer does come with a 1 year warranty starting from 31/05/16.
"All you need is the copy of your invoice to prove to Dell when you purchased this."
PS: Actually I'm going to speak to Dell on Thursday and ensure that Dell recognise the warranty commitment (ie that eBuyer are valid reseller of this 7.5month old product).
robtallica
1 Jun 16#134
Received an email saying order flow items out of stock at 4.24pm. Hopefully they'll find some more stock and be able to fulfil. I was pretty quick in getting this deal (I believe) so fairly sure others will be getting this same email.
mk-donald
1 Jun 16#135
From email times:
- Our order (for this Dell 3900 + couple of other items) was placed Sat 28/5 at 16:06
- Payment processed at 16:09
- First (other item) despatch email Tue 31/05 at 13:00 [showed on online order progress, others still 'processing']
- Dell 3900 despatch email 31/05 late evening [deleted it now] and delivered midday'ish Wed 1/6 via 24hr ParcelForce
robtallica
1 Jun 16#136
My order was placed at 14.41pm Saturday afternoon. Hoping it's just an error or something.
Midge
1 Jun 161#137
Called them yesterday to say I was in no hurry as going on holidays, they noted that on the order.
Got a despatch email late last night and pc was delivered this afternoon.
It all looks good, thanks again :sunglasses:spannerzone:sunglasses:
philb100
1 Jun 16#138
Yes I just got an email about the order flow out of stock as well. Rang them and the bloke said they have some in now and he's allocated one for delivery Monday so not sure what's going on we will see.
philb100
1 Jun 16#139
Yes I think the first job will be to get the windows 10 update on:)
spannerzone
1 Jun 16#140
Now back in stock at £314 - they've got some funny stock control mechanisms....this sold out and went to no longer being stocked/discontinued yesterday if I recall.
Hopefully it means they'll honour the purchases at the £250 price.
tawse57
1 Jun 16#141
Frecking typical - I ordered the RAM today for £15 from Crucial and got an email a bit later saying the RAM had been dispatched. I then got an email 10 minutes later from Ebuyer saying that they had no stock of the Vostro.
tawse57
1 Jun 16#142
I am pretty sure that it is illegal to advertise something at price X, accept orders, then claim to be out of stock and miraculously have the same product in stock for a higher price within hours?
That's outrageous especially as some seem to have taken delivery - this looks like some balls up by Ebuyer and made worse by them having the cheek to restock it soon after back at a higher price. Unbelievable.
The other deal I posted from Laptops Direct seems to be troublesome too where they've cancelled orders despite it being at a higher price a couple days ago and then reduce the price and then 4 days later cancel orders going back 4 days.
It makes no sense but the cynical might think they're playing customers for fools
tawse57
1 Jun 161#145
I found this online about misleading prices. I will ring them in the morning and see whether they will honour the sale and send me the PC for the original price. If not, I will make a formal complaint to trading standards.
It's no consultation - but anyone that doesn't get this deal might find the price drops back down again from other sellers, this product has been sold at decent prices from Ballicom, Ebuyer, Dabs (BT now), Laptops Direct and sometimes Dell direct so there's a chance we'll be seeing more deals soon - but am really sorry some of you have got screwed around by hopeless retailers.
tawse57
1 Jun 162#147
I will make the complaint to trading standards - the more people who do it the better as retailers who do this repeatedly can get hefty fines. It won't get us the desktop but it might stop others being mislead.
tawse57
2 Jun 16#148
Well, I contacted them this morning via their chat and explained the situation. The guy asked for the code of the Vostro and said that he could see that the price had shot up. I mentioned the consumer rights act about 'baiting and switching'.
He said that he would have to contact his manager and then email me back. So I will let you know what happens.
fireman1
2 Jun 161#149
Just to add a bit more info to the ebuyer suspect trading debate.
I got the out of stock email even though last night it still said in stock. Called and my first question was can you check stock of an item for me please. Over 400 in stock sir at £409. That's good then because I had an out of stock email yesterday for one I ordered last week. err it went out of stock on the 31st and we have just had over 4 hundred delivered this morning.
popped back onto the site, Discontinued no stock. Suspect to say the least.
More likely, they wanted to cancel orders and used the no stock excuse but then upped the price and carried on selling. Someone realised after a few queries and they have now changed it to say not available to justify all the cancellation emails.
After 48 hours they will chance upon more stock that you can buy at a new higher price?
mariosdeals
2 Jun 16#150
It was back at LaptopsDirect yesterday morning for about four hours at £234 plus free collection or £6 for delivery, but now oos.
Cheapest current offer seems to be at CCL for £300 delivered.
robtallica
2 Jun 16#151
Was told categorically that there is no stock left. Despite being an early orderer at the £249.99 price point right after this deal was posted. And showing as in stock all day yesterday at £314.99.
I would suspect they're just cancelling some orders to make an extra £50-65 a unit. I'm not exactly steaming about it, but annoyingly have already bought RAM and SSD upgrades in preperation. Would of been an amazing price at the £250 but them's the chances you take with picking up deals.
Thanks for posting either way. Glad some got luckier.
fireman1
2 Jun 161#152
well out of that catagorical none they are apparently sending me one.
From over 400 to none in minutes.
I thought they sold computers, not one direction tickets.
fatman83
2 Jun 16#153
i ordered one at 8pm last night after the one id ordered from laptop direct wasnt available due to no stock. the one i ordered last night was delivered 10 mins ago.
fireman1
2 Jun 16#154
Which just goes to prove that they deliberately continued to sell at a higher price whilst telling others that ordered at the lower price that they had no stock left. My original purchase was 5 days ago, the no stock email yesterday midday before you ordered and the phone call where he said over 400 had come in this morning was this morning.
fatman83
2 Jun 16#155
yep, when i ordered it was showing stock of 411.
tawse57
2 Jun 16#156
I just got an email from them saying that they will not honour the sale. It says that they are out of stock and that the other Vostro is a different specification and comes from a different warehouse.
I replied informing them that it is the exact same spec and that I intend to complain to Trading Standards.
pc2009
2 Jun 16#157
I received an email from them that they are out of stock while few days ago they emailed me that they took money from my card. How to complain to Trading Standards? Is this company run by a clown?
tawse57
2 Jun 16#158
You need to contact your local council trading standards, ask them what their process is for making a complaint and then do so. I fully intend to.
tawse57
2 Jun 16#159
I just got another email from ebuyer telling me that the processor in the Vostro 3900 I ordered is different from the one now on sale for a higher price.
I emailed back pointing out that they are both i5s and that I will let trading standards look into it. I also informed them that I am aware that 'baiting and switching' is illegal under the consumer rights act but will let trading standards decide for themselves.
philb100
2 Jun 16#160
They are going to lose a lot of customers like this. If mine doesn't arrive on Monday (as they have a assured me it will over the phone) I for one will not be using them again. We will see.
spannerzone
2 Jun 161#161
wow outrageous....it's the exact same machine, the Dell part no. is the same, they're supplying some customers at this price, they're just lying plain and simple because their pricing system may have automatically gone too low.
However Ebuyer are not known for their generosity and understanding....and playing fsir when it's not going how they want it.
tawse57
2 Jun 16#162
Interesting how Dell is supplying this cheaper to third party sellers than they are selling it for themselves.
spannerzone
2 Jun 161#163
It's odd, this particular model seems to change price almost daily. often little amounts but sometimes £20 to £50 variation, no obvious reason why such variation but I'm sure some algorithm at Ebuyer watches the other sellers and vice versa so if one does go down, another goes down a bit more, almost like stocks and shares. As people probably have guessed, I've been watching this for a few months and notice the price changes almost daily with a number of sellers.
I wonder if some automated system has gone a bit nuts selling products at cost price hence Ebuyer deciding to pull the product rather than make no money and then thinking no one will notice when the restock it at a higher price again, despite saying they have no stock of the previously priced product - ulitimately resulting in them lying to customers.
My other thought is that certain products are sold via sellers like Ebuyer/Laptops Direct etc but they don't actually stock the product and simply get a third party mega wholesaler to deliver the goods.... a bit like dropshipping on certain products. That might explain why they sell stock they don't have as they don't have a totally tight control as other companies could be selling the same product and there might be a stock discrepency when a product gets popular from several suppliers as has happened in this case.
tawse57
3 Jun 16#164
What do you think is a fair 'top' price to pay for this?
tawse57
3 Jun 16#165
I had to contact them this morning to get them to refund my money to my paypal account. Admittedly, they did it within a few minutes but I do wonder how long it would have taken if I had not contacted them.
I won't be buying from EBUYER again.
spannerzone
3 Jun 16#166
ha well I paid around £360 and still think it's worth the price..... I think £300-£330 seems fair
tawse57
3 Jun 16#167
Thanks. I doubt that it is worth waiting for £250.00 or £238 now as they seem to be hit and miss whether you will get one anyway. Well done to those who did get them at those prices but I suspect most new buyers will end up paying nearer £300 now or slightly above.
philb100
3 Jun 16#168
I'm still holding out some hope. I just contacted them as the moneys gone out. They informed me it will dispatch today for delivery on Monday. Hopefully this is correct but will believe it when its in my hands :smiley:
tawse57
3 Jun 16#169
I had the money go from my paypal straight away but maybe that is how paypal works. I gave them plenty of opportunity to change their minds and send one to me but they didn't.
Did you get a cancellation email?
neilc
3 Jun 16#170
Dumb question - does the machine have built in wi-fi and if it does how do I turn it on?!
If it doesn't - what a crock!
philb100
3 Jun 16#171
I had the email about out of stock a few days ago. I rang them to cancel it and they said actually they had some stock and if I wanted I could still have it. Thought I'd give then a chance. juts got in touch again today to see what was happening and they said its due to be dispatched today.Not had another cancellation or anything as yet. will have to see if I'm lucky. As I say I will believe it when it turns up.
spannerzone
3 Jun 161#172
No wifi on this model, a £15 PCI-E wifi card solves that problem.
You did read the specs before buying right? :confused:
philb100
3 Jun 161#173
To be honest a lot of desktops don't come with wifi .
neilc
3 Jun 16#174
Spec are like instructions, only to be read in emergencies!
I thought everything came with wifi built in these days.
Will a dongle do the trick instead of apci card and if so do I need a specific type please?
One thing to check is your warranty - I registered mine on dells website and found it only has 208 days warranty as they sold it to ebuyer way back when. They are updating it now but it's a faff.
philb100
3 Jun 16#175
Yes a dongle should work too I would think. How did you get them to update the warranty? if mine actually arrives I will check that.
neilc
3 Jun 16#176
Registered it at dell.com, then spoke to cs - had to email a copy of the delivery note. Still waiting for updated date on website
tawse57
3 Jun 16#177
On one of the many Vostro 3900 threads someone posted that they could not get a TP-Link card to work - I assumed they meant the internal card??? I have an external USB TP-Link but it is a bit worrying.
tawse57
3 Jun 16#178
Best of luck.
tawse57
3 Jun 16#179
Keep us updated please. If the warranty does not become the full amount then it is almost as if your were sold a second-hand PC. Best of luck.
spannerzone
3 Jun 16#180
Yes a USB wifi dongle will work as should a PCI or PCI-E wifi card (I'd maybe consider a PCI card to use up the 1 PCI slot that is unlikely to be used for much else) however I'd rarely use wifi on a desktop as they're often low on the ground and the antenna behind the PC which can shield signals. Plus I have a thing about desktops should be hard wired :smile:
neilc
10 Jun 16#181
My warranty has now been updated to the purchase date and not when it was shipped to ebuyer so 12 months warranty in place officially now
spannerzone
10 Jun 16#182
nice, how much hassle was that in the end?
neilc
11 Jun 16#183
A phone call from me and emailing them the invoice/ delivery note did the trick. If anything does go wrong with a machine I am sure buyers will be covered if they do this or not but it may prolong the wait if the information is not up to date
Opening post
If you thought my Laptops Direct deal for £279 for this was good, get ready to save even more with Ebuyer... oh lordy!
Comes with Win7 Pro installed, Win8.1Pro DVD with free Win10Pro upgrade.
Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz
4GB RAM + 500GB HDD
DVD Writer
Intel HD Graphics
Windows 7 Pro / 8.1 Pro and free upgrade to Win10 Pro
MOD EDIT - slight price increase from £249.99 to £250.98 (Sunday 29th May)
Top comments
A Windows Pro licence, or rather a legitimately purchased licence is £120 and that's for OEM which could be argued is still wrong as retail should be bought by non PC builders, but I'll let that slide, it's still £120 for Windows Pro to compare another deal/parts against this deal which has Win Pro OEM included.
Average prices to build this are:
£140 cpu - i5 4460 incl heatsink/fan
£35 motherboard, your choice of budget mobo
£14 4GB memory, Crucial
£32 500GB hard drive
£25 cheap n' cheerful case
£18 cheap/n' blow PSU
£13 DVD
£120 for Windows Pro OEM
£5 for nasty keyboard
£5 for mouse
That comes to £407, ok so ditch the Windows licence cos you don't mind dodgy, and forget mouse/keyboard, so that's £277 for which you have to build yourself, order all the bits, hope it works and still have spent £27 more than buying this one :smile:
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Link1 Link2
These 2 old deal links talk all about upgrade options etc.... hopefully will help answer some questions. Apologies for those getting sick of these Vostro desktop deals :smile:
4GB Crucial memory upgrade £14.39
120GB SSD for £25 from MrMemory
Service Manual
Asus GTX950 2GB £124 - works without extra power requirements
I paid £379 for this back in Feb - arghhh :confused:
A quick tot up on PC Parts picker and I got to around £400 to buy a similar (basic) motherboard, i5 4460, Win7 Pro licence, 4GB ram, 500GB HD, DVD, case, psu, mouse, keyboard. Then you have to assemble it :smile:
Put real power behind your everyday tasks
From video conferencing to creating presentations, with up to a 4th Gen Intel® Core™ i7 processor.
ha, I hate ebuyer
Regardless of what people say these basic boxes are a bargain. After ram, ssd and gpu upgrade they will be sufficient for 99% of the people 99% of the time for around £400. In regards to homebuild unless you are a hard core gamer running in well excess of 1080P or want a very specific case why bother - the maths doesn't stack up
As you discussed on your other post, I sit in front of a E8400 C2D at work (admittedly with an SSD and 8 gig of ram) but its more than sufficient to run full ACAD and Creative Cloud. The difference between this and newer i5's in the office is a 10 second versus a 6 second boot (after bios) and first time program launch may be marginally quicker. This isn't the 90s anymore where you had to drop £1k and them replace every 2-3 years, Moores law for hardware has far outpaced software requirements.
For people asking should they buy this the answer is yes, for internet surfing and mild office duties it will be more than sufficient for the next 5 years, if in doubt buy the extra ram and fit an SSD and it will be many times more powerful than you phone which you probably spend more time using each day.
There is no way on earth that you can buy these parts and build your own for cheaper unless you conveniently forgot to include key parts like the O/S
Added up = around 220, plus case is about 250, 260
but you would be able to custom pick your RAM, HDD, writer, etc... and could more easily upgrade things like a modern/better CPU, GPU, more RAM, SSD, if you built it
good deal if you don't know how to build a pc, but if you do I would suggest building your own with similar specs at a lower price
Had thought I'd missed out on this from last month at c£300. So a great saving!
DatAlbino: Think you've forgotten there's a motherboard in this PC (most self-builders remember to use one!) - about £35; as well as keyboard and mouse; and a warranty and 100% legitimate Windows 7/8.1/10 Pro!
arsenal..: it has both HDMI and VGA connections so depending on what your TV has (spare).
philb100: it has "PCIe x16 (Graphics): 1 Slot". The only significant constraint might be the power requirements of that optional graphics card upgrade as the inbuilt PSU has wattage/connection limitations (based on my past reading of these threads).
Dell UK Business site details:
http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/vostro-3900-mini-tower
Have you ever built a PC? :smiley:
In fact looking at it again I still can't see the mention of a motherboard included, would you mind giving me the mboard name please?
May up the Ram as well and I think it will cover me for what I need to do.
It will be a Dell motherboard that will only usually be sold as a replacement part.
A Windows Pro licence, or rather a legitimately purchased licence is £120 and that's for OEM which could be argued is still wrong as retail should be bought by non PC builders, but I'll let that slide, it's still £120 for Windows Pro to compare another deal/parts against this deal which has Win Pro OEM included.
Average prices to build this are:
£140 cpu - i5 4460 incl heatsink/fan
£35 motherboard, your choice of budget mobo
£14 4GB memory, Crucial
£32 500GB hard drive
£25 cheap n' cheerful case
£18 cheap/n' blow PSU
£13 DVD
£120 for Windows Pro OEM
£5 for nasty keyboard
£5 for mouse
That comes to £407, ok so ditch the Windows licence cos you don't mind dodgy, and forget mouse/keyboard, so that's £277 for which you have to build yourself, order all the bits, hope it works and still have spent £27 more than buying this one :smile:
I would personally build one but I spose for those so inclined to buy as prebuild this is good deal yes
that motherboard has got to suck tho, a stock mboard?
1. A NAS should have a server rated HDD
2. A NAS should have a HDD bigger than 500Gb
3. A NAS should be cheaper than £250
http://www.ebuyer.com/713747-buffalo-linkstation-520-4tb-2-bay-2-x-2tb-nas-drive-ls520d0402-eu
(And that's £175 for four times the storage as a mirrored pair and eight times if set as RAID 0 and without shopping around)
I bought a scratch and dent Dell desktop 1 yr 7 months ago 3847 i5-4460 8gb 1TB @ Dell outlet for £282 inc VAT & Del
Wasn't Win pro though.
http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/vostro-3900-mini-tower/pd?oc=bdv306
(Motherboard has bundled HDMI and VGA connectors - fed by motherboard Intel HD 4600 graphics.)
However the bundled power supply wattage and its connectors MAY be a limit on what card you sought to add.
ie "NOTE: Vostro V 3900 :Total power output of +5 V and +3.30 V can not exceed 90 W"
(Dell manual shows Dell themselves offered nvidia GT705 and GTX745 video cards as options)
In case anyone's after the 3900 Owner's Manual - link goes to Dell "online" manual but also has a blue "PDF" link to downloadable manual
http://www.dell.com/support/manuals/uk/en/ukbsdt1/vostro-3900-mini-tower/Vos3900_3900G_3902MT_OM-v1/Working-on-Your-Computer
I suggest you check those out if you're not bothered about it being new
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Startech-Power-6-Pin-Express-Adapter/dp/B007Y91B80
eg http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/haswells-hd-4600-graphics-tested/
There is a webpage to request the Win7 DVD but it never worked for me. Some people contact support and managed to get a free install CD supplied, if you can be bothered. I just luckily have various Windows discs around..... it was possible to download Win7 officially but that's stopped, other websites still host it if you search.
http://www.dell.com/support/contents/uk/en/ukbsdt1/article/Product-Support/Self-support-Knowledgebase/software-and-downloads/dell-backup-solutions/Media-backup
Edit:
Ignore this - Toms Hardware says that the onboard graphics is better than the 610.
I know nothing about these things so please bear with me, is it doable and practical? will I need a windows disc and is it a pretty straightforward operation for a ludite?!
Thanks
So if you have a spare old hard drive with nothing on it, why not fit it in place of the existing drive (disconnect the drive so you don't install over the Win7). Read this guide (section "Doing a clean installation of Windows 10") - this pretty much covers what needs to be done. This will register your machine's hardware ID (the embedded Windows licence key) with Windows 10 validation server so if you install Win10 in the future, the machine will be recognised and licenced for Win10 Pro in the future if you install it and at no cost to you.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/dell-vostro-3900-desktop-i5-4460-3-2ghz-win7pro-win8-1pro-w10-4gb-500gb-hd-286-50-2421267?p=27713464
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I am not sure if I will get one though as it said there were only 8 left when I ordered and apparently 8 people were about to buy one. No idea how true that is.
I wonder if the Dell is simply just very well designed to use their own PSU and that the cables coming out of third party ones maybe do not have enough space inside the Dell case.
In terms of fitting a new PSU it should be easy enough. If I was getting a replacement I would get a modular one which allowed me to attach the cables I needed only and thus not have loads of unneeded cables talking up space and heating up the case.
Pictures here
http://uk.hardware.info/product/331298/dell-vostro-3900/photos
I dont think it's worth it in my opinion. Even if this was my own post, I would still say the same
I still feel like a pc builder could do a better job with custom stuff, cos the stock PSU and mboard sucks imo, but I guess for an average pc user or for someone who cant build PCs this is a cracker
Im a big pc gamer so I guess my standards of 'not good enough' are niche
What wattage PSU does this have?
NVM found out myself
Power
Device Type Power supply
Nominal Voltage ( 50/60 Hz )
Power Provided 300 Watt
I know you're trying to be helpful but you do write some pretty uninformed stuff. You should never put a 180W TDP graphics card into this. You'd have just the CPU and graphics card with 264W TDP from a 300W PSU and they'd want 12V and from what I remember this alone would be way over spec. On top of that the motherboard, RAM, drives and USB devices will all want power. Sure, a GTX 750Ti or 950 but nothing more unless you want a machine that won't boot or you want to test the quality of your insurance firm's loss adjusters.
Got £284.12 without cheaping out on a Case/PSU if I did that I could get it to around £250 but that's not including windows great this is a great deal tbh.
Only downfall I see is if your wanting to do some serious gaming on this it may need a PSU upgrade although you could get a 750ti / 950 without a 6-pin power plug and should be able to play atleast medium settings or above depending on the game.
when they have the comparison between the polaris and gtx 950. they had total system wattage at 86 watts, the entire system was using 40 watts with the cpu.- the GPU.
have a nice day :wink:
The Dell PSUs are normally very efficient. An efficient Dell 300 PSU will most likely be better than cheaper slightly more powerful PSUs.
If you decide to go down the SSD option and you remove the HDD altogether you would save a bit of power consumption.
If you add in the RAM, the cost of a SSD and even a new PSU and better graphics card you are still below £400 but would have a very good PC for that money.
Seems to me though that most people would be happy with it out of the box. If my order completes I will order the extra RAM and probably a 250GB SSD. I will then use the HHD as a backup device.
I have been looking around in recent weeks for a Dell laptop or desktop deal. On the Dell Outlet it was going to cost me near £400, when VAT and delivery is included, for some of their i3 desktops. Their new i5 desktops are very expensive IMPO and you don't save much on the Outlet if you save at all.
So, is there any actual performance advantage in having 16GB in this Vostro over having 8GB? Or is it a case of diminishing returns over 8GB?
http://uk.crucial.com/gbr/en/compatible-upgrade-for/Dell/vostro-3900-mini-tower
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/dell-vostro-3900-desktop-back-i5-4460-3-2ghz-win7pro-win8-1pro-w10-pro-4gb-500gb-2454982
:smile:
The cost for going to 16GB is a bit prohibitive anyhow at the moment.
If anyone can recommend a decent 250GB SSD drive for under £50 I would be grateful. I see that there is a Crucial 250GB BX200 SSD for £50.99 on Amazon UK but some of the reviews say that it only has a small fast cache.
Not having used an SSD before I am unsure how important this is or not?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-BX200-Solid-State-Drive/dp/B016JREGAC
I manage with 120GB SSD drives and use the other 500GB for storage, depends on your budget but I've yet to use more than 60% of the SSD. You can get 120GB SSD's from £25
One thing to note, the Vostro 3900 has a second slot for a second hard drive - the smaller 2.5" SSD will not fit in here easily, even with a 2.5" to 3.5" adaptor you will find the power cable is too short unless your adaptor is designed to mount the SSD offset (most mount them dead centre) - hard to explain but the SATA power plug is shared from the other drive and it's designed for 2 x 3.5" drives exactly. You might need an adaptor like THIS - the simpler alternative is to mount the SSD under the optical drive, you'll need a 12" SATA data cable but there is sufficient slack in the spare SATA power lead in that location.
This pic shows how little slack there is on the 2 SATA HD power plugs
Someone else said they velcroed theirs under the optical drive, there's space to do that quite easily.
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/pc-mac-desktops/dell-vostro-3900-1317585/review
was a 1080P was thinking of getting so that should be OK then.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/acer-g246hlbbid-24-monitor-fhd-dvi-hdmi-vga-2ms-79-98-ebuyer-2441324
I'll keep an eye out.
http://www.ebuyer.com/700237-acer-v246hqlbbd-23-6-dvi-ips-monitor-um-uv6ee-b01
re Various Q's re HD 4600 (with Core i5 CPU) resolution for driving monitors: Intel quote "DisplayPort*/HDMI- 3840x2160@ 60Hz, [email protected], VGA"
http://www.intel.co.uk/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/guides/performance-xeon-e3-1200-hd-graphics-p4000-guide.pdf
funny how you can miss the blindingly obvious!
I think the spacing between plugs may still be too tight but well worth a try, the problem is that most 2.5" apaptors place the SSD in the middle so you have to stretch the cable across at 45 degrees.
oh and thanks to Buzzard for pm'ing me to let me know the deal was back, we love you too :smile:
If you're a gamer then your needs are certainly much different to non gamers, any serious gamer should not considering a low cost home/office computer like this. But for an occasional gamer that isn't into latest games or high resolution gaming then this will be a cheap way to get semi decent performance. The motherboard will be basic but it won't perform badly, the days of cheap motherboards also performing badly have long gone (since the early 2000's) but the younger members here may not have come across nasty PC Chips motherboards :smile:
Ive had dell before. 15+ years still works although not used it for 10 years.
This is a bargain little desktop. No way can I come near it in terms of specs for the price elsewhere.
Hi Robert,
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I spent the last fortnight on the Dell Outlet hoping to get a used desktop for about £350 but they wanted about £450 to £500 for the refurbished i5s. They have their most basic i5 advertised as £399 on their site for brand new but whenever you click on it or add it to the basket it comes out as £499.
So, chuffed with this.
I'm fairly sure you'll get the i5 exactly as ordered.
The i3 version was always for sale from Ebuyer and when this i5 was £250 the i3 was £303 (crazy!)
http://www.ebuyer.com/719945-hp-280-g1-mt-desktop-n9e78ea-abu
When I click on the cashback it says 'Business' can claim £100 cashback when trading in. Will there be any problem for a private sale? Also, I have an ancient Dell Inspiron I'm replacing so assume this is OK for the trade in?
What can happen is the company that HP use to deal with the trade in computers have been known to, umm, distort the truth about what you sent in, they sometimes say parts are missing or damaged and offer less trade in. It seems very important to read the terms and conditions and make sure your trade in meets the criterior....they usually accept any XP computer that has a legitimate XP sticker on it but if it's not XP then they had a 6 year limit if I recall, but no limit on an XP computer. Make sure you return all accessories like power cables and take photos of all items returned. Having said all that, many people buy a knackered XP laptop that just about works from Ebay for £15 and use that.
This deal posted by Jiffy some time back might help and he might be able to offer further insight
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-280-g1-mt-intel-i5-desktop-pc-for-350-40-less-175-trade-for-business-customers-2307063?page=2#comments
I notice that XP was a predecessor to Vista, so does that mean any Vista machine will be accepted as it's a newer OS than XP?
These Dell Inspinon cases are pretty generic so not sure if they bother delving deeper for the manufacturer date, or just go by the fact it's running XP or later OS systems?
Thanks again for your help.
Now do they check that carefully and can they check the date accurately? I don't know..... I'd be inclined to find an XP sticker and put that on to cover all bases. What they do with the old PC is anyone's guess....surely they don't refurb and send to Africa?!
Terms state:
For your Trade-in to qualify for the promotion it must be a working, complete and undamaged, (reasonable wear and tear accepted) Laptop (minimum 10” screen size), Tablet (minimum 9” screen size) or Desktop. Your Trade-in must be no more than 6 years old (age limitations are not applicable to genuine Microsoft XP computers) and complete with all accessories including working battery and power supply where applicable.
(the PSU's in Vostro & the enterprise end of OEMs are normally 80 PLUS Bronze - minimum)
Had eBuyer email late yesterday that despatched but site said no tracking information just that would be by promised date - ie free ship by 6/6.
Box top had clearly been retaped with Dell security tape once before; brilliantly packaged otherwise - USB keyboard & 'rest' with 2 discs for Windows 8 & Drivers, and a USB mouse hiding UNDERNEATH the system unit.
HOWEVER : just checked the Service Tag # on Dell UK's website and it's showing the Dell 1 year warranty as starting back in end October 2015 (with 2 warranties for 12m and 14m to Dec 16) ! I have opened an eNote with eBuyer on this topic!
Just tried getting technical support on Dell site for the Service Tag # and it says "There’s no match for that Service Tag. Retype the code or allow 48 hours for new devices to register on our site. " so MAYBE only when the system is first connected to the net does it get registered? [not bought a Dell for a LONG time]
PS
Got a prompt response from eBuyer - see below
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/dell-vostro-3900-even-cheaper-desktop-pc-i5-4460-3-2ghz-win7pro-win8-1pro-w10pro-2455242?p=28124948
"Operating System / Software
"OS Provided Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit Edition / Windows 7 Professional 64-bit Edition downgrade"
As you say - best to just blag your free Windows 10 upgrade ASAP as it's only free until 29/7, ie only 8 weeks to go!
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/upgrade-to-windows-10-faq
PS
Stand corrected - mine came with Windows 7 Pro SP1 pre-installed rather than 8, and seems initially during setup (ie the defaults offered) to think it belongs in the Netherlands rather than English/UK/GMT so may explain some of system past! Just claiming the Win 10 update.
A laser printer and the desktop I got from Ebuyer and Dabs both had this issue, I raised it with Dell and they said it was to do with the supplier (Ebuyer/Dabs) - Dabs didn't respond and I didn't bother asking Ebuyer. I figured I'd not lose sleep over it as these things rarely go wrong. Famous last words eh. :smile:
If you want to keep Win7 for the time being and have a spare hard drive why not temp install spare hard drive, install Win10 from scratch, let it authenticate your machine ID to get Win10 Pro a genuine status then pop the Win7 hard drive back in.
Or just upgrade to 10 and be done with it.
(That said I have in the past found eBuyer really helpful with support of products with their retailer legal liabilities, rather than bonus of manufacturer offered warranty - eg why one buys Dell rather than ANO - even just giving me a 100% refund with a faulty Ethernet switch I reported (albeit only c£15)).
"This computer does come with a 1 year warranty starting from 31/05/16.
"All you need is the copy of your invoice to prove to Dell when you purchased this."
PS: Actually I'm going to speak to Dell on Thursday and ensure that Dell recognise the warranty commitment (ie that eBuyer are valid reseller of this 7.5month old product).
- Our order (for this Dell 3900 + couple of other items) was placed Sat 28/5 at 16:06
- Payment processed at 16:09
- First (other item) despatch email Tue 31/05 at 13:00 [showed on online order progress, others still 'processing']
- Dell 3900 despatch email 31/05 late evening [deleted it now] and delivered midday'ish Wed 1/6 via 24hr ParcelForce
Got a despatch email late last night and pc was delivered this afternoon.
It all looks good, thanks again :sunglasses:spannerzone:sunglasses:
Hopefully it means they'll honour the purchases at the £250 price.
What do they want now - £66 more?
The other deal I posted from Laptops Direct seems to be troublesome too where they've cancelled orders despite it being at a higher price a couple days ago and then reduce the price and then 4 days later cancel orders going back 4 days.
It makes no sense but the cynical might think they're playing customers for fools
http://www3.hants.gov.uk/tradingstandards/tradingstandards-consumer/goodsandservices-consumers/tsguide-pricing.htm
He said that he would have to contact his manager and then email me back. So I will let you know what happens.
I got the out of stock email even though last night it still said in stock. Called and my first question was can you check stock of an item for me please. Over 400 in stock sir at £409. That's good then because I had an out of stock email yesterday for one I ordered last week. err it went out of stock on the 31st and we have just had over 4 hundred delivered this morning.
popped back onto the site, Discontinued no stock. Suspect to say the least.
More likely, they wanted to cancel orders and used the no stock excuse but then upped the price and carried on selling. Someone realised after a few queries and they have now changed it to say not available to justify all the cancellation emails.
After 48 hours they will chance upon more stock that you can buy at a new higher price?
Cheapest current offer seems to be at CCL for £300 delivered.
I would suspect they're just cancelling some orders to make an extra £50-65 a unit. I'm not exactly steaming about it, but annoyingly have already bought RAM and SSD upgrades in preperation. Would of been an amazing price at the £250 but them's the chances you take with picking up deals.
Thanks for posting either way. Glad some got luckier.
From over 400 to none in minutes.
I thought they sold computers, not one direction tickets.
I replied informing them that it is the exact same spec and that I intend to complain to Trading Standards.
I emailed back pointing out that they are both i5s and that I will let trading standards look into it. I also informed them that I am aware that 'baiting and switching' is illegal under the consumer rights act but will let trading standards decide for themselves.
However Ebuyer are not known for their generosity and understanding....and playing fsir when it's not going how they want it.
I wonder if some automated system has gone a bit nuts selling products at cost price hence Ebuyer deciding to pull the product rather than make no money and then thinking no one will notice when the restock it at a higher price again, despite saying they have no stock of the previously priced product - ulitimately resulting in them lying to customers.
My other thought is that certain products are sold via sellers like Ebuyer/Laptops Direct etc but they don't actually stock the product and simply get a third party mega wholesaler to deliver the goods.... a bit like dropshipping on certain products. That might explain why they sell stock they don't have as they don't have a totally tight control as other companies could be selling the same product and there might be a stock discrepency when a product gets popular from several suppliers as has happened in this case.
I won't be buying from EBUYER again.
Did you get a cancellation email?
If it doesn't - what a crock!
You did read the specs before buying right? :confused:
I thought everything came with wifi built in these days.
Will a dongle do the trick instead of apci card and if so do I need a specific type please?
One thing to check is your warranty - I registered mine on dells website and found it only has 208 days warranty as they sold it to ebuyer way back when. They are updating it now but it's a faff.