Lots of people have heard of smartphones.
Lots of people also have different uses and opinions to you.

Wow, thanks, I didn't have any opinions of my own, lol. Personally I don't want to ruin my battery on my phone for the sake of carrying a few grams of MP3 player, which frankly is almost certainly going to have better sound quality. Oh and did I mention an awful lot of phones don't even have a memory socket, like mine, so I'm not going to fill up the internal memory with MP3s just to save a tiny amount of weight.

My phone happily replaces a snap and shoot camera, because the camera is bulky an weighs a tonne, but there's little need to run the battery down listening to music, when for a few quid and 32g of weight I can avoid it. I personally use a Sansa Clip, which is excellent, but would never go back to using the phone.

mike

I like to go out dog walking without my phone, hence I have a sansa clip for that reason, for the walk into work I use my xperia phone. I also have a camera I use for days out with my kids, as it has a proper zoom. There are many of us who like to have a good phone for multifunction use, however separate products to do individual uses.
Your opinion is your own, but perhaps a little more thought?

Don't need one.........but ordered anyway..

Doesn't analyse them very accurately in my opinion; I've just tested it on a digital music album for Ry X called "Dawn". It came out with 25% low quality reviews. No one would fake review an mp3 album would they?! Plus it only had 8 reviews and one of the 8 reviews is mine lol. If you read the reviews, this reckons two of the 8 are 'low quality' but they clearly are all genuine. Nonsense site. I'm not going to bother looking in to what algorithms they have used for their 'analysis' but I'm guessing they arent very scientific! Not having a personal dig at you for questioning the reviews of the mp3 player by the way, I just have a different perspective on expectations I guess.

​Believe me, it's not the Fakespot report that's made up. It's the reviews. Fakespot simply analyses them for authenticity.

oh and 'Grade F ; 100% low quality reviews' ... that sounds 97.3% made up to me lol

It is worth more than £1 to me, or I wouldn't own two! Guess there is no pleasing some people. I'm not going to lose any sleep over a 3rd party website questioning the accuracy of Amazon reviews, when I don't know how accurate THAT website is. I'm all about managed expectations. I'm going on one I own, not one I've 'seen' and for what it cost me it does a great job and chances are I will probably drop it in a puddle or lose it before / if it ever breaks and I probably will think it has paid for itself by that time anyway. It was £11 at the end of the day I've spent more on a round of drinks and had less fun for the money before now :wink:

Hmmmmm........I've seen one of these - they dish them out for a pound or so to Amazon reviewers. It really isn't worth a lot more than that, and if you check out the reviews on http://www.fakespot.com you get this:

Tread lightly, this product may contain a major number of inauthentic or low quality reviews!
Grade F (100.0% low quality reviews detected)

​hence why this (fulfilled by Amazon) is better than buying directly from those sellers, and better than ebay, because if there is a problem you deal with Amazon direct. Amazon are in my
experience, among the best company I've dealt with when it comes to problems, up there with John Lewis etc.

It appears that there are lots of sellers on Amazon Marketplace that are not based in the UK who are evading tax if the following article is anything to go by. Thus I wouldn't expect good customer service from these sellers. In fact I wouldn't expect customer service at all really.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/mar/16/amazon-ebay-liable-vat-sellers-budget-2016

Navigation is simple, the sound is great and the volume is more than sufficient to accommodate the noise in a large pub, or a bus. For just over £11, this was a steal. I can only hope that you never try to operate any electronic device that REALLY is complicated.

Deeply ordinary sound using good quality headphones (the supplied ones are terrible and not worth bothering with). Doesn't go as loud as some in this thread have suggested. Navigation is horrible and deeply uninituitive. Gave up struggling with it. Sent it back.

That's pretty poor customer service, I'd let amazon know. Fulfilled by amazon means they will likely sort you out even if the seller is being a dong.

Not impressed with the seller of this. The included headphones in mine don't work (it's for a child, they would have used them).

Sellers response:

"I check the order, you buy it when it is in promotional.
What is more ,for the headphone, it is the present. Just for experiencing the player. "

Erm, right, okay!

Thanks for letting us know, we were all concerned

​I'd rather carry around 4 different devices that can do their specific job decently (Music player, camera, phone, portable games console) than have one device (a phone) which does 3 things poorly. There isn't a single game I've played on iOS or Android that was better than a 3DS/Vita game, my phone doesn't sound anywhere near as good as my old iPod which was modified to play lossless FLAC and no camera I've seen on any phone has the shutter speed or low light capabilities or even zoom power with an appropriate lens of even a budget £200 DSLR.

Nice find OP :sunglasses: i ordered one last night and got it this morning very fast delivery from Amazon and i'm well impressed
with the player for that money.

That's on the internal storage i have a 32 gb card in mine with 100s of songs and its working fine
wouldn't like to say how many songs you could have on a 32gb card a lot more that 4000 more like 15000-20000 and if you put a 64gb card in it even more songs.

Cheers OP.

I tried to order one in pink and one in blue. The system indicates I qualify for free delivery however when I went to the check out it added a delivery charge of 3.99 to the order.

Other colours still available. I prefer blue because I already have iPod and phone in black.

I'll stick to my galaxy pocket neo I think.

gone

expire

after a small cheap mp3 player for running. has tobe rain/sweat proof and have a clip. Any ideas?

would get this had not be for my 160gb ipod classic.

High quality real 8GB 80 Hours lossless Music playing MP3 player 1.8" TFT screen MP3 E-book photo Music FM radio Clock Data

£9.67 for the 8GB

Looks the same as the "Ruizu X02" £8.66 delivered if you're happy ordering from China (aliexpress).

EDIT: that's only 4GB, doh!

it would kill the battery

This had been rated 5 stars at over £20 trying to think of a reason to buy it.

I got one awhile ago really good player, but menu navigation is awkward to get used to

It has a DAC, of course, looks like it's limited to 16/44.1, which is CD quality and perfectly fine. I'm not sure what the headphone amp is like though, not sure if it could power say a 150ohm set with ease :wink:

Smartphones have crappy battery lives for one, so you could easily find yourself running out of juice and therefore suddenly making the smart phone completely dumb.

Bear in mind that there is a limit of 4000 songs, so if you are planning to use a large music collection then this won't be able to build a database for them all.

Bought... Nice one op

does anyone know if this player is a high resolution music player(with built in DAC etc.) or just another mp3 player that can playback lossless music.

Why is this hot? ???. Has no one heard of a smartphone & memory card. What next compact cameras. technology is supposed to be moving us forward not backwards. My music's on my smartphone may not be as good sound quality but it's about portability . I don't want to cart around several devices in my pocket. cold for me

Gosh, I bought some cheap tat mp3 player off eBay for the gym. But I'd looked at this before. May still buy this but I need to find something else to bump to £20.

Also wondering if I can download amazon prime music onto this. If so will buy. But having researched I have realised it isn't possible. But thanks for posting.

Does this support Amazon music? If not what standalone devices do (if any)?

cheers, just what I was looking for to save my phone battery.

Cheers OP woth a punt at £11 :smiley:

Thanks OP, ordered a red and a blue. Ideal for me and OH for hols :smiley:

Next day delivery to an Amazon locker is only £1.99

Not all colours available for this price.

Don't need one.........but ordered anyway..

Wow, I actually bought this last week for running. It's working great so far so definitely hot from me. Much lighter than my phone too which makes running a bit less cumbersome! :smile:

Perfect for the beach, thanks! Voted Hot.

Little knowledge is dangerous.Good for music,Hot.

More importantly, it supports OGG which is the best format, both for being free (as in financially and as in freedom - MP3 is NOT) and for quality to filesize ratio - If you have two files at the same bitrate, one in MP3, one in OGG, the OGG will be smaller.

Most manufacturers don't bother supporting OGG so this is good. I'm guessing there's no Rockbox support for this though so you'd be stuck with the manufacturer's OS.

LOssless + MP3 does not compute

Forgetting the cheap as chips price for a moment, what is the sound quality like if playing lossless music through a decent pair of in-ear or headphones?

Thanks.

FM radio via iPhone is not possible so cannot listen to local radio.

Therefore a good deal, cheers.

And this seems a bit wacky:

does this have a clip?

Ordered, why? will plug into my car aux port for those long journeys

Thanks

The Sansa Clip was mentioned - does this have a clip or anything like it?

My hearing is not that good so need something with a decent volume. I wonder if this goes loud?

Purchased one of these months ago for the gym. Really rate it for £15