Alot of people returned this the last time it was posted, blacks being Grey, picture being overall bad etc. Turned me of it.
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Bubuka83
22 Apr 16#1
great find thanks op! heat added!
chrispaps12
22 Apr 16#2
Great find cheapest 55inch 4K tv out there heat added.
morrig
22 Apr 16#3
So cheap if buying now ,but after seeing last weeks Click going on about HDR tvs that seems the way to go if you can wait to buy when prices come down?.
anthony212 to morrig
22 Apr 161#4
doubt people who are paying £400 for a 4k TV are going to wait for HDR
ChriisM
22 Apr 163#5
Alot of people returned this the last time it was posted, blacks being Grey, picture being overall bad etc. Turned me of it.
motionwerk to ChriisM
23 Apr 16#14
I was one of them. Spend all day trying all the settings. Nothing. Greys were very disturbing to watch once noticed - which took less than a minute. And picture quality was worse than my five year old Sony set. Not for the fussy watchers.
almar2012
22 Apr 16#6
I have this - it's superb
CaptainSocks
22 Apr 163#7
I had this.
It's okay.
Went back.
Kept the Hisense 55 4K instead.
About the same price.
Infinitely better picture.
jukes21 to CaptainSocks
23 Apr 16#8
What's the model number of the hisense? Or do you have a link please
adam4007 to CaptainSocks
23 Apr 161#10
I don't blame you. Good move mate.
SkyeVincent
23 Apr 161#9
We got this for £394 after cashback etc a few weeks ago. Black is very grey, HDMI 2 has a tendency to tune out of its own accord and picture quality not that much better than our 10 yr old HD Samsung. Disappointing but keeping it until it really goes wrong by which time hopefully a better one will be on a similar price deal!
adam4007
23 Apr 16#11
Don't buy this. You will be disappointed when you fire it up.
deany76
23 Apr 162#12
IMPORTANT
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LiGhTfasT
23 Apr 16#13
If this is like other philips tvs that have a speaker on the back be prepared to buy a sound bar if you wall mount it. The sound echoes from the rear wall and sounds awful.
bought the 43 inch last week for my bedroom tv. was worried about input lag as also using it for a gaming pc monitor but cant seem to tell the diffrence between my sony w8 in the livingroom ( seemingly good response times) and this......never watched anything standard defenition on it mind so cant comment on that but at least 720 content looks pretty good to me.
Have noticed the greyish blacks as mentoined previously but tweaking the picture settings (all presets are rubbish) has made it infinitely better.
Heat from me.
Foley2001_uk to jamatoke
23 Apr 16#23
Have to agree, I too have the 43 inch version and all he built in presets are terrible, which is a shame because it gives the average user a bad first impression of the tv. If you properly calibrate and use some custom colour settings it's capable of a stunning picture for the price... For some reason all the presets have the sharpness up way way too high and it looks terrible. I can provide my settings for anyone that goes for this, it's made a stunning picture for me on ps4 and PC using both 1080p and 4K content
CaptainSocks
23 Apr 16#17
It's the 55" 391u model.
Cost me £449 from Argos using the eBay 20% off voucher a while back.
Think the cheapest you can get it now is at AO for £499.
Honestly blew this out the water picture wise.
ses6jwg
23 Apr 161#18
rubbish sd picture and unreliable hdmi ports.
bad motion blur on sports
had one and took it back
*Sloman*
23 Apr 161#19
I had the 55" 6400, motion blur and input lag was poor. It was kind of a blessing when it broke Thursday (random crashing and wouldnt turn on)and I returned to Argos and replaced for a Samsung!
shahidali47
23 Apr 16#20
input lag?
getmeone to shahidali47
23 Apr 163#21
Someones b*tch in a prison.
CaptainSocks to shahidali47
23 Apr 16#22
In a word.
"Yes".
fourcough
23 Apr 16#24
No go, you need to be waiting for HDR.
spamcan61 to fourcough
23 Apr 161#25
There's always "better" technology just round the corner, always has been.
Dr_Deranged
23 Apr 16#26
Please do, thanks
nordicgod
23 Apr 16#27
Yes please for me aswell if you can message settings that would be good my 43" is sitting in a box at moment till I move house
petedonoghue
24 Apr 16#28
I done the same. Done the firmware upgrade, spent ages messing with settings. Put it side by side with my 10 year old Sony and put the dark Knight bluray through both. Sony was still miles better! Took it back for a refund
kennycork
24 Apr 16#29
I'd like these also, thanks
Hivanh91
24 Apr 16#30
For a 55inch 4K telly, can't complain - managed to get this for just under £405 with the 10% off offer they had a couple of weeks ago, plus vouchers I had that needed using up - ended up only paying £290 cash. Obviously not as great as Samsung, Sony, LG or other high end brands but for what I paid for it, definitely a bargain! Ultimately, I got a 55inch 4K telly for under £300! Can't complain and haven't experienced any issues with the HDMI as I did the update staright out of the box.
Hivanh91
24 Apr 16#31
I'm interested in hearing about your settings too! Please could you update me as well?
CaptainSocks
24 Apr 16#32
The settings that worked best for me were:
Box it back up. Send it back.
I'd also be really interested to see how anybody got a decent picture out of this.
Spent ages fiddling with the settings!
Managed to get them much improved from "out the box", but the picture was still really poor compared to me old 1080 Samsung set, and they were still worse than the Hisense I ended up keeping was "out the box".
Presume this is a rebadged cheap set or something, because I was a bit shocked given I've always associated Phillips with making decent quality stuff.
Foley2001_uk
24 Apr 161#33
Picture style - movie
Colour - 70
Contrast 72
Sharpness - 2
Advanced:
Activity style - game
Colour - colour enhancement - minimum
Colour - colour temperature - normal
Contrast - contrast modes off
Contrast -Dynamic contrast - minimum
Contrast - Brightness - 60
Contrast - Video contrast - 80
Contrast - Gamma - minus 1
Sharpness - ultra res - on
Sharpness - noise reduc - off
Sharpness - MPEG reduc - off
beljim7419
25 Apr 16#34
The blacks really are grey on this. I've tried multiple configs. looks great during the day and Black's look dark but in dark lighting and at night a grey sheen seems to eminate unfortunately.
wadz
26 Apr 16#35
I have the 40" version (40put6400). I am finding the colours are a bit washed out compared to my old Samsung smart TV. Anyone know what settings would give me the best picture?
V6ALFISTI
26 Apr 16#36
Philips stuff is generally good, but they just don't seem to make great TV's.
However cracking value.
A review for the 6xxx model suggests the following:
They recommend... For the record, the areas I'd recommend you spend the most time playing with are noise reduction (I'd suggest switching this off for all UHD and most HD content); the Natural Motion system (which should never be set higher than its lowest power setting, or else turned off entirely); the Contrast mode (which should be set to Standard rather than Best For Picture or Best For Power); the Ultra Resolution system (which I would recommend turning off for most content); and the Dynamic Contrast feature (which I would suggest you only use on its Minimum level).
CaptainSocks to V6ALFISTI
26 Apr 16#37
TP Vision own and license out the manufacturer of all Phillips TVs now, and have for a while.
Which is confusing for us consumers because it makes it incredibly difficult to work out who actually makes the panels in each of their sets.
Having played around with mine, I suspect this is a Vestel or equivalent.
Very low quality panel IMHO.
TheDon31
28 Apr 16#38
If it's like the 43" (which I suspect it is), the SD picture is woeful. Took my 43" back. Dont know how Philips are still in the game!
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It's okay.
Went back.
Kept the Hisense 55 4K instead.
About the same price.
Infinitely better picture.
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It's okay.
Went back.
Kept the Hisense 55 4K instead.
About the same price.
Infinitely better picture.
*****Don't buy instore pay the extra approx 4 quid and benefit from "The Consumer Contracts Regulations" formally distance selling regs, otherwise you cant take it back due to box being opened = possible BUYERS REMORSE*****
BUY ONLINE
Have noticed the greyish blacks as mentoined previously but tweaking the picture settings (all presets are rubbish) has made it infinitely better.
Heat from me.
Cost me £449 from Argos using the eBay 20% off voucher a while back.
Think the cheapest you can get it now is at AO for £499.
Honestly blew this out the water picture wise.
bad motion blur on sports
had one and took it back
"Yes".
Box it back up. Send it back.
I'd also be really interested to see how anybody got a decent picture out of this.
Spent ages fiddling with the settings!
Managed to get them much improved from "out the box", but the picture was still really poor compared to me old 1080 Samsung set, and they were still worse than the Hisense I ended up keeping was "out the box".
Presume this is a rebadged cheap set or something, because I was a bit shocked given I've always associated Phillips with making decent quality stuff.
Colour - 70
Contrast 72
Sharpness - 2
Advanced:
Activity style - game
Colour - colour enhancement - minimum
Colour - colour temperature - normal
Contrast - contrast modes off
Contrast -Dynamic contrast - minimum
Contrast - Brightness - 60
Contrast - Video contrast - 80
Contrast - Gamma - minus 1
Sharpness - ultra res - on
Sharpness - noise reduc - off
Sharpness - MPEG reduc - off
However cracking value.
A review for the 6xxx model suggests the following:
They recommend... For the record, the areas I'd recommend you spend the most time playing with are noise reduction (I'd suggest switching this off for all UHD and most HD content); the Natural Motion system (which should never be set higher than its lowest power setting, or else turned off entirely); the Contrast mode (which should be set to Standard rather than Best For Picture or Best For Power); the Ultra Resolution system (which I would recommend turning off for most content); and the Dynamic Contrast feature (which I would suggest you only use on its Minimum level).
Which is confusing for us consumers because it makes it incredibly difficult to work out who actually makes the panels in each of their sets.
Having played around with mine, I suspect this is a Vestel or equivalent.
Very low quality panel IMHO.
Display lag Test video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_0uI2VKEj8