The new NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980/970 is powered by the next generation NVIDIA Maxwell Architecture, giving you incredible performance, unmatched power efficiency, and cutting-edge features.
Maxwell is the most advanced GPU architecture ever made, designed to be the engine of next generation gaming. Inspired by light, it was designed to solve some of the most complex lighting and graphics challenges in visual computing. For the first time, gaming GPU's can dynamically render indirect light using the new VXGI (Voxel Global Illumination technology). Scenes are significantly more lifelike as light interacts more realistically in the game environment.
The GTX 980 is the worlds fastest GPU and the GTX 970 offers the most advanced performance in its class. Each delivers 2x the performance of previous-generation card, bringing new gaming experiences to virtual reality, and ultra resolution 4k displays.
Enable the detail of 4k monitors, on a 1080P display. DSR produces smoother images by rendering a game at a high resolution, then downscaling it to the native resolution of the display using advanced filtering.
GeForce GTX 980 and 970 cards support tear-free, super-fast NVIDIA G-Sync monitor display technology including 4k. Together, these technologies provide the most immersive and competitive gaming experiences possible.
Get VR Ready with GeForce® GTX.
GeForce® GTX graphics cards provide a powerful next-generation platform for the ultimate immersive virtual reality experience. Immersive VR requires seven times the graphics processing power of traditional 3D apps and games. NVIDIA's unique set of features-such as multi-res shading-mean you get the right level of performance, image quality, and latency to ensure your VR experience is nothing short of amazing.
Features:-
- Voxel Global Illumination Technology (VXGI)
- NVIDIA® Super Resolution technology
- NVIDIA® GameWorks technology
- NVIDIA® GameStream technology
- NVIDIA® TXAA Technology
- NVIDIA GPU Boost 2.0
- NVIDIA PhysX® Technology
- NVIDIA FXAA Technology
- NVIDIA Adaptive Vertical Sync
- NVIDIA Surround
- Support for four concurrent displays including: Two dual-link DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort 1.2
- Microsoft DirectX 12
- NVIDIA® 3D Vision® Ready
- NVIDIA SLI® Ready Technology
- NVIDIA CUDA® technology
- PCI Express 3.0 support
- OpenGL 4.4 support
- OpenCL support
- NVIDIA SHIELD Ready
- NVIDIA G-Sync Ready
- VR Ready
heat! but the new gpus pascal and polaris BOTH look very promising and so I doubt Nvidia will keep their ridiculous price points. so for now I'm waiting :smile: but plenty of heat for this as this is an awesome card with an awesome price
Paradroid888
11 Apr 164#13
I don't have one but £260ish for a 970 vs £370 for this, that's a 40% increase for what I believe is 5-10% performance.
adderrson
11 Apr 163#32
at this price point the R9 Nano is the better buy. But seeing how close they perform against each other, we just need this to drop below £350 to be a pretty sweet deal :smiley:
All comments (86)
deeplink
11 Apr 161#1
good price! very tempted at this price.
pathetichero83
11 Apr 1614#2
heat! but the new gpus pascal and polaris BOTH look very promising and so I doubt Nvidia will keep their ridiculous price points. so for now I'm waiting :smile: but plenty of heat for this as this is an awesome card with an awesome price
Paradroid888
11 Apr 163#3
That's a really good discount. Trouble is, is it worth it over a 970? From the benchmarks I've seen, the difference is often not enough to justify the extra cost.
New2Deals to Paradroid888
11 Apr 162#4
I wouldn't if you already had a 970
Stim to Paradroid888
11 Apr 16#21
Get another 970 and SLI? Better performance than a single 980..
polarbaba
11 Apr 161#5
whena pascal and polaris likely to get released for actual purchase..
im looking at 980s at the moment and thinking is it worth buying or wait....
i did look at 390x cards and just git confused at wildly differing opinions from crap to 980 equivalent.. so sticking with nvidia so i can stream to a shield console in the future
New2Deals to polarbaba
11 Apr 16#10
The rumors of a consumer release of a Polaris GPU have been ongoing. One theory is they're holding back to bleed AMD dry, as the market for GPUs stagnates while people "wait to see" the impact Polaris will have on the market. It's the same as any tech story, you could wait forever for the next big thing to drop.
Much prefer the 390x over the 980, much cheaper to.
Honestly would buy neither with the new cards coming out, if you've waited this long, just wait a little longer... if you can't wait, just get a 750ti or if you want to play games in FHD at 60fps then get a radeon 380
Ferrari100 to polarbaba
11 Apr 161#58
Lol. You been listening to Nvidia Fanboys.
390x is faster than an Nvidia GTX980
Check these latest games.
Far cry 4.
Hitman.
Ashes of the singularity.
The division.
Quantum Break.
To name but a few.
390x wins in all.
polarbaba
11 Apr 16#6
opinions?
thanks
New2Deals to polarbaba
11 Apr 16#9
95% from Tweak Town (detailed review), with an editors choice award.
Tandom24
11 Apr 16#7
Any game comes with this?
New2Deals to Tandom24
11 Apr 16#8
No free games as far as I can tell
LordAlu to Tandom24
11 Apr 16#15
I'd probably e-mail to be sure. You should get Tom Clancy's The Division with this, Overclockers are participating in the promotion.
I don't have one but £260ish for a 970 vs £370 for this, that's a 40% increase for what I believe is 5-10% performance.
New2Deals
11 Apr 162#14
Keep in mind though, for people wishing to go VR a 970 is the bare minimum you'll get away with.
adam45417
11 Apr 161#16
I have my Gtx 970 overclocked +150 Core, +500mem pretty sure its on-par with a stock 980. But then again you can always overclock the 980...
xela333
11 Apr 161#17
The 980 also has more stream processors so it's not airways clock for clock
Tyranicus66
11 Apr 16#18
Polaris is AMD's offering. I think you mean Pascal. Little Pascal rumoured in May, Little Polaris in July. Big versions by the end of the year. If commentary is to be believed both are significant upgrades over Maxwell with Polaris possibly nudging it! I would 100% WAIT.
Tyranicus66
11 Apr 16#19
If you don't game at 1440p I would just wait for the new card release and then pick up a couple of cheap 970's on fleabay. If your power supply is up to snuff just SLI them up for uber performance on the cheap! I did it with my 780ti's and it allowed me to comfortably skip the 970 / 980.
If you do game at high resolution though you may want to cough up for something with a bit more VRAM from the next gen.
adam45417
11 Apr 16#20
Wasn't really talking about matching the 980 clock speed.. I was talking about matching the performance.
Minstadave
11 Apr 16#22
Way too much with new cards coming out. Nano is faster and cheaper if you must buy now.
Ferrari100
11 Apr 162#23
expect 980's and 390's to drop considerably over the next two months.
BetaRomeo to Ferrari100
11 Apr 161#36
No, expect them to keep their prices over the next two months.
Then expect them to drop as Computex hits. :wink:
AceRimmer15
11 Apr 161#24
Great price, it is tempting but at this point I'm definitely waiting for the next lot of cards.
bradbutcher9
11 Apr 163#25
For those who aren't sure about paying so much with new cards around the corner, there's GTX 970's on eBay for £219.99.
I grabbed one for a stop gap upgrade :smiley:
Paradroid888 to bradbutcher9
11 Apr 16#40
I saw that too. Seller based in Manchester. I suspect they're grey imports, as the only other seller to hit that price point was in somewhere like Lithuania. Either way it's a great deal for a fine card. As soon as funds allow, I'm grabbing one :smiley:
Retro89
11 Apr 163#26
We need one of those Bingo cards creating for GPU deals.
"New GPU's out in X months"
"AMD is better"
"Nvidia is better"
"LOL 3.5GB" (for when it's a 970 deal)
"Why spend this much when you can get a console for the same price"
"I wouldn't feed this to my kids"
Not that much difference between a 970 and a 980. I got a 970 for £224 for a few months ago and I've been loving it! :smiley:
vulcanproject
11 Apr 161#28
You would have to be clinically insane to buy a high end GPU now, at least before we find out what the new cards bring to the table end of next month at Computex.
Umming and ahhh'ing at the moment about what GPU to buy for £250-350... I actually need one too (can't wait).
Smoking173850
11 Apr 161#31
I would rather have a 290x over this.
More vram, faster , better in dx12 which is going to be the norm very soon and it will be better supported over the life time vs a end of life nvidia card as they stop full support when a new card drops.
Great price and heat added but tbh I wouldn't buy a card now as 8 weeks the new cards could be here or maybe less for amd as they look to be first out the gate this time.
adderrson
11 Apr 163#32
at this price point the R9 Nano is the better buy. But seeing how close they perform against each other, we just need this to drop below £350 to be a pretty sweet deal :smiley:
sealthard
11 Apr 16#33
Everything I read says 1 great GPU is better than 2 good ones. 970 is not reasonable to upgrade to 980 really and I'm against SLI/XFIRE
Stim
11 Apr 16#34
If you're buying one from scratch then yes it is better. As you've already got a 970 it makes sense and is a bigger performance boost than replacing for a standard 980. Works perfectly for me and I don't have any issues.
CAL23
11 Apr 16#35
Thanks for this, I might give that a go.
sealthard
11 Apr 16#37
Oh It'll work, sure. I'm thinking of two things: Value to performance and backwards compatibility with older games
tahir_owen
11 Apr 16#39
A little unfair on the 980 as the card they uses is a reference card, plus it hasn't been overclocked. So expect another 20% performance improvement, give or take
bradbutcher9
11 Apr 16#41
so long as it's as described and I don't have import fees to worry about I'm golden :smile:
It should be coming within a week, ordered compressed air and stuff to clean out the ole' rig hehe.
maverikk
11 Apr 16#42
Here we go with the comparisons between Radeon vs NVidia! I would say the big negative for this card is you get just as good performance from a GTX970 (few fps off but not enough as a casual gamer would notice. Good deal for card though.
montblanc
11 Apr 16#43
I've just bought all the parts for a PC except the graphics card cause I couldn't decide. What do I do? Put them in a box for two months waiting for an announcement? It's a shame there's not a mega deal on a 970
adam45417
11 Apr 16#44
True although the price difference is quite big...
Tyranicus66
11 Apr 16#45
Dependent on what you really want it for. Personally I would pick up a cheap second hand mid range offering (GTX 960 or Rad 280) sit with it for a couple of months and then sell it after the new cards come out. Because these cards are already "out of date" so to speak the deprecation bump will be modest and they will still provide respectable performance while you wait for the arrival of the new cards.
hardstylemw
11 Apr 16#46
Will this run Minecraft on ultra?
keebb9 to hardstylemw
11 Apr 161#57
Nope your going to need x2 Titan X
skyda to hardstylemw
12 Apr 161#68
so original :man:
dmcmsn
11 Apr 1618#48
AND HERE WE GO THE HUKD GRAPHICS CARD BINGO!!
karlos1980 to dmcmsn
11 Apr 161#49
I like the middle one - I got a 290X for £175 from the E-2-the-bay and it's a beast :smiley:
Retro89 to dmcmsn
11 Apr 161#53
Give this person a VIP Badge.
jaheermk to dmcmsn
12 Apr 16#61
Lol you must be old asf
Paradroid888
11 Apr 16#50
I know what you mean but the 960 is already struggling with latest titles (as in less than 1080p60). The 970 covers it all pretty well at the same level, and will have a much longer lifespan, for only £100. New cards are coming soon but I still think a 970 is good for the next 18 months at least.
Paradroid888
11 Apr 16#51
Oops £100 extra I mean, not £100 outright
wottodo
11 Apr 161#52
My 290x 8GB for £180 beat yours.:stuck_out_tongue:
stanlenin
11 Apr 162#54
290X for half this price is the same speed.
dmcmsn
11 Apr 16#55
Thanks :smile:
abaxas
11 Apr 16#56
Accepted wisdom is avoid the 980 and just buy a 970.
End of discussion.
BetaRomeo
12 Apr 16#59
The older Hitman: Absolution is the other one, isn't it?
And then every single other game on PC (i.e. over ten thousand titles) will run better on a 980, if memory serves.
Not that I'm recommending a 980, mind you - I'd recommend a 390 or a 970 instead, if for some reason somebody couldn't wait to see what happens in June.
imcconvey
12 Apr 16#60
3.5
guitaristanime
12 Apr 16#62
3.5GB memory addressing problem, is that what you're referring to? The one that only affected a handful of games?
cheesybeanzz74
12 Apr 16#63
is this 6 pin power connection?How many amps on the rail does it need?
cheesybeanzz74
12 Apr 16#64
So true!! :smirk:
Paradroid888
12 Apr 16#65
There's a benchmark video on Youtube showing Rise of the Tombraider at very high settings at 1080p running on a 960/970/980. With the 960 you're pretty-much looking at a 30fps lock because it gets nowhere near 60fps. With the 970 you get 40-50fps. With the 980 you get well north of 60fps.
On that game the performance difference between the 970 and 980 is more like 25%, more than I thought. It also gives you the headroom to be sure of running 60fps.
Still not sure it's worth the uplift in price, but if you've no tolerance for turning settings down, or living with dropped frames, the 980 could be useful.
verbumSapienti
12 Apr 16#66
your quick product comparison is for the 980Ti, card in deal is 980
Pfffff... whats this?! Lol r9 380 will kill it it 2 secs!
Ferrari100
12 Apr 16#73
I will just leave this here.
I believe it's Volumetric lighting using ASYNC Compute this time (lots of use cases for it btw).
25% faster on a Fury X over a 980Ti. A 390x is 10% than a 980Ti. The one I like the most is the 380x matching the GTX970.
You had an excuse to deny it was beneficial when I was trying to tell everybody what was going to happen. I used logical reasoning and study to realise the truth but you would have called that guess work. (The greatest inventions in the world come from logical reasoning don't you know.)
You no longer can do that. The truth is real.
I too can't wait for the new GPU's to arrive.
The thing I will be most interested is watching both vendors cards be benchmarked on all current and future DX12 ASYNC games (Doom and Deus EX: mankind should take the total to around 8 - 10 titles at that time). Will Pascal perform better with DX12? Marginally, yes, as it has some sort of pre-emption for compute commands meaning it will have a correct order, this will gain 1-2% rather than drop 1-2% as Nvidia GPU's have been doing in most DX12 games until now. There will be no more ASYNC performance boost though. Still no ASYNC compute.
BetaRomeo
12 Apr 162#74
Errr... link? Because that sounds like another lie to me. Are you confusing me with someone else, perhaps?
What you have said is that it will make AMD GPUs outperform similarly-priced Nvidia GPUs in every single DX12 game that ever gets released. (Happy to provide a link, if you'd like?) But something tells me that AMD hasn't done so well in all DX12 games... right?
OK, you've lost me. What are you saying you've just invented?
Yes, that's exactly the problem. Eight games on a platform with 10,000+ games. Thank you for finally admitting it.
It's ironic that all you do is shout about async compute, and you also erroneously capitalise it every time, too. :neutral_face:
I'm not part of your little Nvidia versus AMD spat. I'm an adult with a job and a family - I have stable emotional connections in real life, so I don't need to worship a tech company to fill some void in my life. When we look at the DX12 facts... hey, look, four DX12 games benched. Two wins for AMD, two wins for Nvidia. Shock, horror. It's almost as if you're... wrong. Again. Like you were about the GDC. Like you were about Crimson drivers never killing a card, and you were about AMD being "commended" for it. Like you were about the 300 series being revolutionary, and being Tonga-based, and you were about everyone abandoning Nvidia last year. A mistake now and then is fine. Never-ending mistakes, lies and paranoia about the "Nvidia Mafia" simply highlight the problems with mental healthcare in the NHS.
Oh, and I'll just leave this here:
Refresh my memory - was the Fury X faster than the 980Ti, or was it the other way around? That's the problem with using shoddily-programmed ports as your example cases. Listen to the grown-ups for once. We don't yet have enough information to draw conclusions.
Funnily enough, looking back at your past comments, I've just realised what it is that you "invent". :man:
Oh, something tells me that you have read that already. So why didn't you share this with the rest of us? :smile:
Ferrari100
12 Apr 16#77
ASYNC compute is real, it offers performance far greater than Nvidia can offer on their GPU's, and it makes Nvidia fanboys squirm.
I LOVE IT!
One developer might find 5-10% in one game, other developers find much more in other games. What are you unable to comperehend here?
Hanging on the word of one developer when others have proven more performance boost in their own titles are you?
Hilarious.
Even if were only 5-10% at most in games - Its still beats Nvidia GPUs. Haha
BetaRomeo
12 Apr 161#78
It looks like you're the one not 'comperehending' here. That article was talking about the AotS devs and Hitman - that's two developers, not one. But if you like, we'll disregard both Hitman and AotS for anything A.S.Y.N.C. C.O.M.P.U.T.E.-related in future, shall we? (Seems bizarre to me - you've used them as examples of the amazing, the wonderful, the incredible A.S.Y.N.C. C.O.M.P.U.T.E. in literally dozens of your comments, and now you're saying we should ignore them? That's scarily close to admitting you were wrong!)
Except when it doesn't, of course. What, you didn't know that Rise of the Tomb Raider uses A.S.Y.N.C. C.O.M.P.U.T.E.? Really? I'm astonished that we've uncovered a gap in your knowledge. Usually you are the very model of meticulousness and professionalism.
Ferrari100
12 Apr 16#79
ROTR does not use ASYNC compute on the PC.
You are so funny.
It did in the consoles for Pure Hair tech but Nvidia had AYSNC removed (although pure hair is still present) when they added GameWorks tyech to the PC version, I wonder why. LOL
Seriously man, I cant help but laugh.
I know you will never accept you were wrong. It is going to be so funny to listen to you deny that ASYNC is superior technology in twelve months time, still in denial, with your GTX950.
I teach children to admit it's OK to be wrong some times . It amazes me that many adults are so incapable of it.
lol
bulletfoss
12 Apr 161#80
Card!
retrend
12 Apr 16#81
lot of money for 4gb
BetaRomeo
12 Apr 16#82
Sounds like you're a little behind the times... here it is, over a month ago.A.S.Y.N.C. C.O.M.P.U.T.E. added to Rise of the Tomb Raider on PC. Didn't you flog copies of RotTR and its season pass recently? Odd that you're not up-to-date on what you're buying and selling. (And even stranger that you're happy to profit from GameWorks titles! Morals of convenience, I suppose.)
"The above advantage we feel is the most important one for Rise of the Tomb Raider, but there are many more advantages that make us excited about DirectX 12. Another big feature, which we are also using on Xbox One, is asynchronous compute. This allows us to re-use GPU power that would otherwise go to waste, and do multiple tasks in parallel."
(Huh. Bizarre how this technical guy says "asynchronous compute" instead of "ASYNC compute". I guess he doesn't know how to say it correctly!)
Michael Gove's legacy continues to haunt us, I see. What do you teach children about being wrong all the time, every day, in every single comment they make? Wouldn't it be more expedient to teach them to check their facts first, to save everybody some time? Anyway, don't admit it just yet - wait a second, let me just grab some popcorn - OK, I'm ready! You may admit being wrong now. :smiley:
jaheermk
13 Apr 16#83
old enough mate, don't you worry about that
wozukSilencer
13 Apr 16#84
He's that old he can't have a VIP badge he gets this.........
poopscoop
13 Apr 16#85
Blue Peter badge. I remember watching that when they were in flares
Ferrari100
13 Apr 16#86
At what point did I say they might be wrong with every comment.
Wow, maybe you should go back to school and learn comprehension.
Tut Tut.
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The new NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980/970 is powered by the next generation NVIDIA Maxwell Architecture, giving you incredible performance, unmatched power efficiency, and cutting-edge features.
Maxwell is the most advanced GPU architecture ever made, designed to be the engine of next generation gaming. Inspired by light, it was designed to solve some of the most complex lighting and graphics challenges in visual computing. For the first time, gaming GPU's can dynamically render indirect light using the new VXGI (Voxel Global Illumination technology). Scenes are significantly more lifelike as light interacts more realistically in the game environment.
The GTX 980 is the worlds fastest GPU and the GTX 970 offers the most advanced performance in its class. Each delivers 2x the performance of previous-generation card, bringing new gaming experiences to virtual reality, and ultra resolution 4k displays.
Enable the detail of 4k monitors, on a 1080P display. DSR produces smoother images by rendering a game at a high resolution, then downscaling it to the native resolution of the display using advanced filtering.
GeForce GTX 980 and 970 cards support tear-free, super-fast NVIDIA G-Sync monitor display technology including 4k. Together, these technologies provide the most immersive and competitive gaming experiences possible.
Get VR Ready with GeForce® GTX.
GeForce® GTX graphics cards provide a powerful next-generation platform for the ultimate immersive virtual reality experience. Immersive VR requires seven times the graphics processing power of traditional 3D apps and games. NVIDIA's unique set of features-such as multi-res shading-mean you get the right level of performance, image quality, and latency to ensure your VR experience is nothing short of amazing.
Features:-
- Voxel Global Illumination Technology (VXGI)
- NVIDIA® Super Resolution technology
- NVIDIA® GameWorks technology
- NVIDIA® GameStream technology
- NVIDIA® TXAA Technology
- NVIDIA GPU Boost 2.0
- NVIDIA PhysX® Technology
- NVIDIA FXAA Technology
- NVIDIA Adaptive Vertical Sync
- NVIDIA Surround
- Support for four concurrent displays including: Two dual-link DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort 1.2
- Microsoft DirectX 12
- NVIDIA® 3D Vision® Ready
- NVIDIA SLI® Ready Technology
- NVIDIA CUDA® technology
- PCI Express 3.0 support
- OpenGL 4.4 support
- OpenCL support
- NVIDIA SHIELD Ready
- NVIDIA G-Sync Ready
- VR Ready
Specification:-
- GeForce GTX 980
- GPU: GeForce GTX 980 (GM204)
- Core Base Clock: 1152MHz
- Core Boost Clock: 1253MHz
- Memory Clock: 7010MHz
- Memory Size: 4096MB GDDR5
- Bus Type: PCI Express 3.0
- Memory Bus: 256-bit
- CUDA Cores: 2048
- DirectX 12: Yes
- DVI Port: 1x Dual-Link DVI, 3x DisplayPort & 1x HDMI
- DisplayPort: Yes
- HDCP: Yes
- HDMI: Yes
- Power: 2x 8-Pin
- 500W PSU Required
- 200W TDP
- Warranty: 3yr
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im looking at 980s at the moment and thinking is it worth buying or wait....
i did look at 390x cards and just git confused at wildly differing opinions from crap to 980 equivalent.. so sticking with nvidia so i can stream to a shield console in the future
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviewdb/Graphics-Cards/AMD/R9-390X/
Much prefer the 390x over the 980, much cheaper to.
Honestly would buy neither with the new cards coming out, if you've waited this long, just wait a little longer... if you can't wait, just get a 750ti or if you want to play games in FHD at 60fps then get a radeon 380
390x is faster than an Nvidia GTX980
Check these latest games.
Far cry 4.
Hitman.
Ashes of the singularity.
The division.
Quantum Break.
To name but a few.
390x wins in all.
thanks
Although not by a huge amount.
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7110/msi-geforce-gtx-980-gaming-4g-le-video-card-review/index13.html
The 980 also has more stream processors so it's not airways clock for clock
If you do game at high resolution though you may want to cough up for something with a bit more VRAM from the next gen.
Then expect them to drop as Computex hits. :wink:
I grabbed one for a stop gap upgrade :smiley:
"New GPU's out in X months"
"AMD is better"
"Nvidia is better"
"LOL 3.5GB" (for when it's a 970 deal)
"Why spend this much when you can get a console for the same price"
"I wouldn't feed this to my kids"
etc etc.
Not that much difference between a 970 and a 980. I got a 970 for £224 for a few months ago and I've been loving it! :smiley:
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/190652-overclocking-nvidias-gtx-970-gtx-980-performance-for-a-fraction-the-price
More vram, faster , better in dx12 which is going to be the norm very soon and it will be better supported over the life time vs a end of life nvidia card as they stop full support when a new card drops.
Great price and heat added but tbh I wouldn't buy a card now as 8 weeks the new cards could be here or maybe less for amd as they look to be first out the gate this time.
It should be coming within a week, ordered compressed air and stuff to clean out the ole' rig hehe.
Nope your going to need x2 Titan X
End of discussion.
And then every single other game on PC (i.e. over ten thousand titles) will run better on a 980, if memory serves.
Here, quick product comparison - from a respected site.
Not that I'm recommending a 980, mind you - I'd recommend a 390 or a 970 instead, if for some reason somebody couldn't wait to see what happens in June.
On that game the performance difference between the 970 and 980 is more like 25%, more than I thought. It also gives you the headroom to be sure of running 60fps.
Still not sure it's worth the uplift in price, but if you've no tolerance for turning settings down, or living with dropped frames, the 980 could be useful.
I believe it's Volumetric lighting using ASYNC Compute this time (lots of use cases for it btw).
25% faster on a Fury X over a 980Ti. A 390x is 10% than a 980Ti. The one I like the most is the 380x matching the GTX970.
You had an excuse to deny it was beneficial when I was trying to tell everybody what was going to happen. I used logical reasoning and study to realise the truth but you would have called that guess work. (The greatest inventions in the world come from logical reasoning don't you know.)
You no longer can do that. The truth is real.
I too can't wait for the new GPU's to arrive.
The thing I will be most interested is watching both vendors cards be benchmarked on all current and future DX12 ASYNC games (Doom and Deus EX: mankind should take the total to around 8 - 10 titles at that time). Will Pascal perform better with DX12? Marginally, yes, as it has some sort of pre-emption for compute commands meaning it will have a correct order, this will gain 1-2% rather than drop 1-2% as Nvidia GPU's have been doing in most DX12 games until now. There will be no more ASYNC performance boost though. Still no ASYNC compute.
What you have said is that it will make AMD GPUs outperform similarly-priced Nvidia GPUs in every single DX12 game that ever gets released. (Happy to provide a link, if you'd like?) But something tells me that AMD hasn't done so well in all DX12 games... right?
OK, you've lost me. What are you saying you've just invented?
Yes, that's exactly the problem. Eight games on a platform with 10,000+ games. Thank you for finally admitting it.
It's ironic that all you do is shout about async compute, and you also erroneously capitalise it every time, too. :neutral_face:
I'm not part of your little Nvidia versus AMD spat. I'm an adult with a job and a family - I have stable emotional connections in real life, so I don't need to worship a tech company to fill some void in my life. When we look at the DX12 facts... hey, look, four DX12 games benched. Two wins for AMD, two wins for Nvidia. Shock, horror. It's almost as if you're... wrong. Again. Like you were about the GDC. Like you were about Crimson drivers never killing a card, and you were about AMD being "commended" for it. Like you were about the 300 series being revolutionary, and being Tonga-based, and you were about everyone abandoning Nvidia last year. A mistake now and then is fine. Never-ending mistakes, lies and paranoia about the "Nvidia Mafia" simply highlight the problems with mental healthcare in the NHS.
Oh, and I'll just leave this here:
Refresh my memory - was the Fury X faster than the 980Ti, or was it the other way around? That's the problem with using shoddily-programmed ports as your example cases. Listen to the grown-ups for once. We don't yet have enough information to draw conclusions.
Funnily enough, looking back at your past comments, I've just realised what it is that you "invent". :man:
Async Compute Only Boosted HITMAN’s Performance By 5-10% on AMD cards; Devs Say It’s “Super Hard” to Tune
Oh, something tells me that you have read that already. So why didn't you share this with the rest of us? :smile:
I LOVE IT!
One developer might find 5-10% in one game, other developers find much more in other games. What are you unable to comperehend here?
Hanging on the word of one developer when others have proven more performance boost in their own titles are you?
Hilarious.
Even if were only 5-10% at most in games - Its still beats Nvidia GPUs. Haha
Except when it doesn't, of course. What, you didn't know that Rise of the Tomb Raider uses A.S.Y.N.C. C.O.M.P.U.T.E.? Really? I'm astonished that we've uncovered a gap in your knowledge. Usually you are the very model of meticulousness and professionalism.
You are so funny.
It did in the consoles for Pure Hair tech but Nvidia had AYSNC removed (although pure hair is still present) when they added GameWorks tyech to the PC version, I wonder why. LOL
Seriously man, I cant help but laugh.
I know you will never accept you were wrong. It is going to be so funny to listen to you deny that ASYNC is superior technology in twelve months time, still in denial, with your GTX950.
I teach children to admit it's OK to be wrong some times . It amazes me that many adults are so incapable of it.
lol
"The above advantage we feel is the most important one for Rise of the Tomb Raider, but there are many more advantages that make us excited about DirectX 12. Another big feature, which we are also using on Xbox One, is asynchronous compute. This allows us to re-use GPU power that would otherwise go to waste, and do multiple tasks in parallel."
(Huh. Bizarre how this technical guy says "asynchronous compute" instead of "ASYNC compute". I guess he doesn't know how to say it correctly!)
Michael Gove's legacy continues to haunt us, I see. What do you teach children about being wrong all the time, every day, in every single comment they make? Wouldn't it be more expedient to teach them to check their facts first, to save everybody some time? Anyway, don't admit it just yet - wait a second, let me just grab some popcorn - OK, I'm ready! You may admit being wrong now. :smiley:
Wow, maybe you should go back to school and learn comprehension.
Tut Tut.