Please avoid the 8Gb storage devices. You'll fill that in no time at all, and be struggling to move apps to SD storage forever more! Drives me up the wall

It's not 5th generation either, but please... enlighten everyone as to where we may currently purchase a 4th gen, how much it costs and while you're at it please could you provide the specs. Thank you.

I've used this analogy before to try to explain RAM & memory (ROM):
Think of RAM as the size of your work desk, the paperwork you're working on as the apps/media, & the ROM as a filing cabinet where you fetch/store paperwork (apps, documents, photos & videos) to/from. 2Gb RAM is double the "work desk" of a 1GB RAM phone, & 16Gb ROM is double the "filing" capacity of an 8Gb phone. Bigger RAM/ROM means you can have more apps open at any one time & store more apps/media. Does that help?

great phone but should really be 100 to be competitive.and should have been this version only released.

Good Deal but you can still get it from Motorola for £149, with added benefit of motomaker for the extra £4, and extra shell for £9.99. (£179-£20-£10 using codes EASTER16 AND UKWELCOME10 which are still working as of yesterday).

Heat added

This used to be a problem, but just update to Marshmallow and put in a new UHS-1 64GB SD card. It'll allow you to format the SD card and use the full 64GB as internal storage.

Info:https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/109134/p/1449,9582

For the record I agree that 8GB devices shouldn't be sold anymore, but at least Marshmallow helps to solve storage problems. I also think that it's better to get a device with 2GB of RAM as the minimum.

Heat added. I have the 3rd gen 8gb moto g and paid £110 around Christmas time. I'm perfectly happy with mine at that price... so this is a bargain for sure.
I did run out of storage space on my lesser model 8gb because I put quite a few apps on it, but simply moved some to the SD card, deleted cache etc. and it's fine now. Performance wise it's great for speed, battery life (~23 hours), usability and lack of lag. Camera is fantastic.

Where can you get a 3rd gen 8gb moto g for £70?

how come that's nonsense when even now you can get it for around that?
that phone with that price tag is simply Not a good value for money at all, for £70 with 1gb ram yes it's a good value.

Wow...people don't half spout some nonsense on here. This phone doesn't become "2x higher price" than the 8gb version just because you happened to get one for £70 a few months ago.
What a crank :smirk:

Wayy wayyy overpriced for what it is! I bought mine but 1gb version for 70quid already I think 4months ago!
extra 1gb of ram for 2x higher price? lol how about no...

My father has this phone from Tesco - he's very happy with it . Price for the performance I think is excellent . Not sure if buy an unknown make at anywhere near this price but feel confortable enough with Motorola :smiley:

Bought this phone at this price last month and very happy. It has a quality feel to it. Updated straight away to the latest android and no probs yet.

Ok, fair enough... although a couple of caveats; to quote from your supplied link:

"Please be aware of possible VAT since its shipped from China, Aliexpress does not offer PayPal payment,in case of any warranty issues you would have to send it back to China.

NO 4G with O2, Tesco, Giff Gaff

And the most important these phones comes with some Chinese bloatware since they are sold for Asian market so it is recommended to load customized ROM - which is done at your own risk."

...and given that I'm on GiffGaff, it's not for me thanks.

You've really missed the point, which is that it's more of a premium phone that the Moto G yet at a cheaper price (exchange rates, different country production costs, no big middle men profits, big retailer mark ups etc). As for the Moto G, you do realise that Motorola is a Chinese owned with components and production in China? All you're doing to with the Moto G is paying the retailer's (big, fat) profit margin for a lesser product, and in the case of Amazon, they don't even pay any UK tax on their profits despite them selling products here.

thx just did the same, custom designed!

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Hi, just been looking into this and unless I'm wrong the price you're quoting is for a 2Gb version of the Xiaomi. The 3Gb version - not released just yet - has a price of £214.81 delivered from Gearbest. If you can confirm the price you're quoting please provide supplier details. Thank you.

Might as well see what specs and price the new moto G has as it's released out soon.

Can't believe people buy them but they do. Same with Game. An old moto G selling for similar price to new. Think its the older generation, who don't know prices.

Once facebook app for example is installed on 1gb ram device, one quickly figures out why 2gb is a must. If there are no such badly written RAM hungry apps installed, 1GB could be bearable. Another good example where 2 GB is handy is switching from running google maps while navigating, to say contacts/phone, it could be challenging for one's patience if there are other background apps rinning- fb massenger, viber etc.

Damn just paid £149.99 direct from Motorola, however I was able to customise and select the colour of the front, back, and accent. I also had the back panel engraved and a personalised greeting upon start up. The normal price for all this is £179.99 for the 16gb version, but use the codes SPRING16 and UKWELCOME10 it brings the cost down to £149.99.

​Sorry but you can't tell me cheaply made Chinese phones are caviar.

Because they're a lot better.

It's akin to posting a deal on Aldi fish eggs for £10 when Fortnum & Mason cavier is better quality and at a lower price.

Why do people keep on posting Xiaomi/Doogee/Umi/Huawei phones on Moto G deals?

Loads of phones comes with bloatware. Every Samsung Galaxy has come with bloatware, even worse if you buy it direct from the telco as you get the telco's bloat as well. What problems are there with the software? Repairs? Fair point, but without repeating the huge argument from the other thread, I've never had a modern phone develop a fault over its typical life cycle. At this price, if it malfunctions after 3 years, just buy something else. Probably time to upgrade anyway! If the same thing happened to the Moto G after 3 years, it would cost more to repair than the phone is likely to be worth anyway.

I keep reading about problems with software, bloatware and if anything goes wrong no one knows where to send it for repair so that's put me off. Shame though as looks like a nice phone.

Yes it is: Link Here

Highly illogical!

Who do people keep on posting high priced Moto G deals?

The Xiaomi Redmi 3 Pro is £20 less and a noticeably better phone. Massive battery life, aluminium unibody construction, decent components, 3gb RAM, fingerprint reader etc.



http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/xiaomi-redmi-3-pro-with-3gb-of-ram-fingerprint-sensor-launched-819279

People are mad to pay £140 for the Moto G over one of these. The Moto G was good when it first came out but the competition has overtaken it now in price, performance and design.

​I'm really interested where you got Android 6 for 1st gen Moto G :-)

Is this 3rd generation as well please? I have an £8 off voucher for Argos that's all so would be even cheaper for me.

Talking of CEX I was in there last saturday and saw a StarTrek Blu Ray disk I fancied for £8.00 looked on Amazon while I was in the store and saw it BRAND NEW SEALED for £.6.00 so orderd it there and then and got it sunday evening with prime!

Business model built on the saying 'there's one born every minute'!

I bought this phone on release. Nice phone, does everything more expensive phones do just as well and sometimes even better. I love that you can activate the torch with a couple of shakes and it being water proof is a bonus. Camera is OK, nothing special. Once wet the screen doesn't respond so don't assume you can take pics of the fishies and the plastic hardshell although having a grip like look is really slippery to the touch, I have almost dropped this phone everytime I pick it up but luckily have awesome spiderman reflexes. You may want a case.

Camera on this is better than average phone at this price range, I personally do not like the curved back and prefer a flatter design to fit neatly into pockets. In my view on the large size for a hand held pocket device or maybe I should buy clothes with bigger pockets!

£160 used at CEX!

Thanks for posting. Was a little cheaper earlier in the month, but this is still decent.

A very good explanation of how RAM actually works, well done.

Had this a while now. Bought from Amazon.fr when it was posted on here around £125.
Great phone in UK, works on 4G no problem but recently used in US and it would only connect at Edge speed. Must be a setting wrong somewhere but I couldn't figure it out.

Is there a big difference in performance between the 2? Argos have the other for £119?

no no no, should be so..."It is not an i-phone SE - cold!!!"

I don't see that as explaining the performance aspect of RAM though at all. RAM is temporary storage and very much faster than the ROM storage. The computer wants to cache things in the RAM because it is much faster and I mean much faster than ROM storage, the same is true on a computer system such as a laptop or desktop. The RAM is extremely fast compared to the hard drive and even way beyond the speed of an SSD.

RAM is the fastest temporary storage on any system. You computer wants applications in RAM and will seek to intelligently cache them in RAM. You can experiment yourself and it's easier to see an example on a computer with a slower HDD than a SSD. Boot your computer then open your web browser, note how long it took to load the browser, then immediately close the browser and re-open it, it opens way faster than before, why is that? Because the computer has learnt and cached the browser in RAM, so it's loaded in to RAM space and ready for action, it doesn't have to load from the extremely slow SSD or HDD in comparison to the speed of RAM.

Android memory system is more complex than I describe here, but simply it seeks to fill up the RAM, so that applications and other system app are ready for action. Task killers on Android free up your RAM working totally against the principles of the modern Android system, to speed up Android you firstly need more RAM and you definitely NEVER want to use task killers.

RAM is good, using RAM effectively and efficiently is good. More RAM up to a certain threshold is good. Therefore 2GB of RAM in a phone is better than 1GB. More RAM becomes a waste of less useful if you can't use it, therefore having 6GB in phone for example would generally be a total waste of RAM. You could argue that on many phones 4GB is a waste currently as the workload to use the RAM effectively exceeds most users requirements.

Summary:

RAM is good, RAM is absolutely needed, too much RAM is definitely a waste, too little RAM hurts performance.

Still got the 1st generation Moto G, great phone, no problems

Just ordered the wife a 3rd Gen moto G direct from Motorola using Moto Maker service so you can pick front colour, rear colour and camera surround colour also have some engraving.
At the checkout i used two discount codes, One for mothers day and one for easter. Brought it down to £119 delivered for the 8gb/1Gb. Pretty sure the codes could have been used non the 16gb/2gb but they couldn't deliver until well into May.

4th gen Moto G rumoured for June release so expect the price of this to fall further in the coming month or two.

great phone but should really be 100 to be competitive.and should have been this version only released.

to download / install update on my phone and reformat sd card took me over 1 hour be warned, remember wont update unless your 50% charged

is 6.0 better than 5.1 or whatever it comes with in the box with this one? i'm always dubious with updates often whatever it's originally on ends up being the most stable etc.

No. I bought it while I was there recently. Also they are dual sim !

Moto G 3 generation 16 GB & 2 GB RAM is much better value for money and it's selling at 9999 Rs at Amazon.in

+heat was waiting for the restock. time to get rid of my razr i, lags massively these days with the latest apps...

https://motorola-mobility-en-in.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/109655

Update here

Selling the moto G 8GB / 2GB in UK was a huge mistake by Motorola

If only that were true!. I read about that and thought wow, all my problems are solved. Reformatted my SD disk to the required format. All was good for a while and then bang, Im hitting the storage error messages again.

It only works apparently if the app itself supports the feature. Legacy apps still see the internal memory as just that and they try to install in that space only, hence the problem re-occurs!. I guess as apps are updated to support the feature it will disappear gradually but for the meantime, I am still receiving that darn error. Seems crazy when I have nearly 30GB free on my SD card.

went for the 16gb version from Argos..with possible cashback via quidco works out a little less..if it tracks ok!

Please avoid the 8Gb storage devices. You'll fill that in no time at all, and be struggling to move apps to SD storage forever more! Drives me up the wall

Multi tasking , speed of running apps.

Moto have always done a really good job in optimising Android to run well on low spec devices like the Moto G's. If you are running a 1GB Ram device, an app that you were running a few minutes ago may have to reload as it could have been kicked out of memory to make way for your current app. On a 2GB device, more of the recent apps will still be in the Ram and not have to reload when you access them later. This is one area where you will see a significant speed difference. For a short term device, the lower spec will be fine. Anything longer than a year, pay the money for the 2GB Ram version.

Great analogy mate. I work with computers at my works and am forever trying to explain how they work to my, less than tech savvy, colleagues. I'll use this analogy the next time I have to explain to them why I'm upgrading their ram/hard drives. Cheers.

I ħave a first gen 1gb and a 3rd gen 2gb both running Android 6 and the difference in speed is tiny.

battery issues unfortunately on both my moto gs

The 8gb storage is not so much a problem as the 1gb of ram which will make it run like a dog ( and not a greyhound )

I've used this analogy before to try to explain RAM & memory (ROM):
Think of RAM as the size of your work desk, the paperwork you're working on as the apps/media, & the ROM as a filing cabinet where you fetch/store paperwork (apps, documents, photos & videos) to/from. 2Gb RAM is double the "work desk" of a 1GB RAM phone, & 16Gb ROM is double the "filing" capacity of an 8Gb phone. Bigger RAM/ROM means you can have more apps open at any one time & store more apps/media. Does that help?

It's not 5th generation either, but please... enlighten everyone as to where we may currently purchase a 4th gen, how much it costs and while you're at it please could you provide the specs. Thank you.

Guess​ storage can be increased...does the ram affect performance much?