& HDMI cable! Brilliant!

That 'obsolete' tech you refer to has far more going for it than edge or backlit LCD whether it be a 1080p or 4K panel. LED Edge or backlit LCD still struggles to rival the picture quality that Plasma provides in both SD and HD...hence why the true successor to such 'obsolete' tech is in OLED or to a lesser extent the replacement to crap LED backlit LCDs with nanocrystals.

I am certain my 'obsolete' Plasma only bought last year will quite happily serve me well instead of rushing into buying into tech that is not there or for that matter little in the way of content to afford such panel resolutions.

Terrestrial cannot offer 4K transmissions, Netflix and BT so called 4K transmissions are at too low a bit rate to provide anything other than a marginal improvement over 1080p Blu Ray quality...and as for true 4K transmissions you are stuck with a physical format of a £400 4K Blu Ray Player and expensive and small selection of titles.

Quite happy to let the market mature first and stick to a good quality picture on what I have got.

Yes, thank God! A real deal-breaker.

Speaking of which I have just this second had an email from Richer Sounds telling me 4K Blu Ray has arrived...they are selling a Panasonic DMPUB900 for a whopping £599.

I am amazed how sucked in the general public actually are. First it was 'LED TVs' leading many astray...admittedly it does offer better contrast and if backlit less cloud blooming than CCFL LCD, but a lot of people actually fell for the LED buzzword not realising there was no difference with the panel being still LCD.

Now there are many out there 'upgrading' into cheap 4K without even actually looking out there at what is available for it. Admittedly anyone that has a TV on the way out is just as wise in buying a cheap 4K LED edge/backlit as they were when they bought their existing 1080P sets...but there are many 'upgrading' without good reason or research. And a true 'futureproof' upgrade really would be in either OLED or nanocrystal...both expensive, and once again still little in content above 1080P.

The infrastructure is not there for terrestrial via satellite decoding or DVB-T for 4K transmissions, and the UK lags behind many a European country for broadband particularly in rural/semi-rural areas for streaming such high resolution transmissions even with the improved handling of compression with H.265 codec.

On one hand even with 1080P people are quite dismissive of physical media even though Blu Ray offers better quality in uncompressed audio and better video quality than current Netflix. Yet ironically those happy to sacrifice picture and sound quality want better with 4K and will not be getting it unless they buy into such 4K physical media, as and when as you say the studios actually start knocking out true 4K content.

Consumers are oddly ready for 4K, the manufacturers are laughing all the way to the banks knocking out cheap LED lit 4K TVs whilst investing the money into nanocrystal tech...whilst content providers are simply not ready be it through lack of content and current technological constraints.

I prefer to sit at the sideline right now, laughing at the foolish.

& HDMI cable! Brilliant!

I have the 55 inch version of this. It's a good TV. Although, SD telly looks a bit rubbish.

The quality of SD on most channels is generally rubbish no matter what size tv.Only watch Sky news and the Gadget show in SD now.

Obviously it goes without saying that SD pictures look better on smaller TVs and obsolete Plasmas. Seriously?

SD channels in sky looks fine on this 60 inch, 720 and 1080 looks like HD, Need adjustments to colour, brightness and backlight. Blacks are reasonably good on this.

The five year warranty is only valid if you continue to pay to be a Costco member for the five year spell. Not a biggie for some, but worth bearing in mind.

Plus you have the added bonus of probably not needing your heating on at the same time :P

You're right there it does give off some heat...but as I sit 13 foot back from it I definitely cant feel it...and my solar generation far offsets any extra cost I incur, which is negligible.

Picture quality is amazing and only OLED beats it right now and certainly not a £900 mid range LG 4K TV

not only that but most of the 4K discs being released right now are edited in 2K and then released and not processed in 4K....I think only Sony discs right now offer true 4K content...all 5 of them...how awesome.

Will this sync with my Palm Pre? No? Aww :disappointed:

​Oh wow, didn't realise Plasma screens were still on sale.

That was my only reason for the "obsolete" comment. If that was wrong then fair enough.

I was actually praising Plasma!

I'm with you on that....very happy sitting on the sidelines watching the masses buy into something they really don't need and cant really use

Plasmas are not still on sale, I had one of the last LG ones, manufactured December 2014, bought in March 2015...five years warranty.

Apologies that both others as well as myself got the wrong end of the stick with your comment. :smiley:

With everything there are always the lovers and the haters (apple vs android....speccy vs commodore)...for those people interested in getting a 60 inch 4k tv (and if I am buying such a large screen I personally want it to be 4k compatible)...its a deal.

end.of

I too am not an early adopter. But you forgot to mention 4k HDR (see last week's BBC Click).

Watching your black and white telly?

No, I already said I am quite happy with 1080p Plasma with current 1080p content whilst waiting for the world to catch up.

Jokes aside, I was tempted on a plasma a couple of years ago, but this was when the prices were higher, much like the LED to OLED prices now. And also the power consumption of plasma's wasn't something that really appealed.

Most people, Joe public, whoever, just want something new that someone has told them is great, and they can afford, and doesn't triple in price to the next best thing (LED to OLED).

I have got a Samsung 8500, absolutely cracking picture quality. 4k content is like a trip to Maldives...absolutely bangers!

True, I understand that not everyone (including myself) is about to jump out and buy OLED sets, and that 4K sets are now at the prices existing cheap LED backlit LCDs used to be and in that instance as I said if anyone has a borked set and cannot afford to splash out the extra on such tech as nanocrystal or OLED it makes sense.

I will re-iterate that the point I am making relates to the lack of content and those that are foolishly upgrading to keep 'on trend' without actually researching into what is there for 4K right now.

You are again right there...early adopters when 4K first come out are already out of date as a lot of older sets aren't HDR compatible....amazing that sets that are less than 12 months old are already out of date before they could be used to their fullest.

I know that is technology in general, but in this case it really is a con of the highest order

I don't think that's right either....

here is some interesting reading for the 4K brigade

When is 4K not 4K

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This is actually a very good write up on 4k V other stuff, worth a read if you get a chance..

http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/why-ultra-hd-4k-tvs-are-still-stupid/

It is all horses for courses when it comes to a *tv* as some sets suit some scenarios better
than others and the only way to see, is to visit a Curry's mega store as stupid o'clock in the
morning as they open, so you / anyone can spend a few, uninterrupted hours, trying all the
big sets out as you want ;-)

Netflix

So streamed and heavily compressed 4K...don't get me wrong I've seen it and it does look good...but I doubt its true 4K in real terms

I doubt it too..

This really is a tempting price. I currently have a 60 inch lg plasma and has been great. But I'd love a 4k. Only downside is Lg's atrocious customer service.
However, coming from Costco they'll look after any issues without having to deal with the useless fools at lg.
Great deal.

The Costco guarantee is amazing but do bear in mind that they only replace the set for a set period of time....after that they will repair it. ITs a great guarantee/warranty but its not a replacement set for the full 5 yers...they dumbed this down a while ago.

And WHY do you want a 4K TV...I'm not saying you shouldn't but what are you hoping to gain.

Do you have a super high speed broadband connection? I believe 50+ is advised to stream 4K properly. Are you the sort to buy lots of discs and the newest players? If so you will be OK going forward as more true 4K discs are released...but for now you will be very limited.

I didn't realise that LG customer service wasn't al that. I guess its like anything, if it doesn't go wrong its great, its when it does go wrong you find out how good the company you are dealing with really is.

A friend of mine just bought the top end 65 inch Panasonic 4K HDR set for £3100, I'm sure its a great screen but knowing he hasn't bought any BR discs for a while and that he isn't intending to buy a new 4K player, I'm not sure why he went for that...probably because he could. Again nothing wrong with that at all but he could probably have spent half that for a screen that will display all of his current 1080p content just as well and then in four or 5 years when he upgrades again 4K might be truly THE standard.

As someone mentioned above, if you HAVE to have a new TV right now, it kind of makes sense to get a 4K set which MIGHT future proof you...but as I've already mentioned, 6-12 month old sets are effectively already out of date with a new HDR war being fought, and even the newest sets have their fates to be decided as just like the BluRay HD DVD battle, eventually one format of HDR will reign supreme and then even more sets will be old tech that will lose its value fast. Considering that a lot of 4K buyers are doing so for the extra quality they are getting, most of them aren't getting that because they choose not to buy the best quality, i.e. the new discs, or its not available to them, i.e. some sets cant receive 4K Netflix or similar or worst case, their broadband/fibre speeds don't have the required speed

I'm also on the sidelines waiting for OLED to drop in price but the curved screens have cretated an additional delay as I won't go for them , and the flat OLED still seem quite a way off dropping to anything resembling a reasonable price.... Could be at least another 18 months to 2 years before an OLED drops to this kind of price.

curved screens were a money grabber by the 4K producers in general. I can think of nothing that a 4K set brings to the market.

I agree 18-24 months until OELD prices become more sensible but they will always be high, much like Pioneer Kuro screens were in their heyday. Mine 60 incher cost me £4000 in August and that price was only superseded when Panasonic released their top of the range plasma a few years later...albeit a great set. In truth 4k OLEN may NEVER be cheap...but it will hopefully be less eye watering than it is right now

​Can of worms - opened...

The exact response I was going to write. For all us peasants using Youview or other Freeview sources most content is SD so this kind of thing matters.

​4k for my home movies :wink::wink:

although going against my argument you would be unlikely to use an external box with a newer TV

Ive taken some 4K content with my quad and that did look amazing on my FILs 4K set

Looking at your username, and now that comment...you are not Ron Jeremy are you lol.

I really like this quote from the website quoted earlier

55-inch 4K or 55-inch OLED? Duh, OLED. 4K is just better tires on an old car. OLED is a whole new car.

I also have 55" version and sky sd channels are not brilliant but hd is fantastic and then anything on the lg apps is brilliant better than sky hd so just depends on broadcaster as sky is poor sd obvs trying to get you to buy hd packs

true that....

Even some of the upscaled HD channels are garbage.....

And to top it off...all monthly packages are going up £2.50 a month in just a few weeks...Why???to pay the footballers hahahaha

Well thank you sir for the well balanced and logical comments as opposed to the irrational ones. My very good Samsung 1080p playing full size HD files will last another 5, thanks TV manufacturers for the 4K, but you have no base yet.

Was going to get this but looking at the LG 55EG910V oled but its not 4k so not sure.

I completely agree with all the comments on there being a lack of 4k content to justify buying a 4k tv, and as the tv in this offer isnt 3d it lacks the only real benefit of buying a 4K tv now rather than waiting for more content (the benefit being that with a 4k passive 3d tv you can actually watch HD 3d without losing half the vertical definition)

O yes! I love my OLED sooooo much. Some advice guys save up your money and buy OLED it's truly amazing. Viewing angles are amazing and the curve gives it that premium look but the curve is no where near as aggressive as the Samsung curved. The OLED is also 25% power hungry.

25% less power hungry sorry.

Only a porno master would know of old Ron lol

These bargain 4K TVs will be redundant by next year due to HDCP 2.2

Last March I bought one of the last Panny zt65's an awesome TV. However plasmas are still available, I bought a Samsung 42" from tesco outlet and recently bought a Panny 50" from them too. It is the X60, 720p screen but with a HD freeview tuner, you wouldn't know it wasnt 1080, the picture is fantastic(almost reference quality according to avforums) ...all for £283. Keep an eye out on tesco outlet.

Wow! 4,000 TV's for £829.99! Count me in!

(jk don't kill me)

It inj

​you must have a very limited viewing :confused: experience

​I believe the term is "planned obsolescence" and it has been done in the technology sector for years both in hardware and software. That's why I cherry pick my purchases and laugh at the trend setters who waste their money for little of any improvement.

That said though this is actually a good price for the size irrespective of the 4k debate and hence hot :sunglasses:

for people who have a large media collection stored on a server a lot of 4K TVs use the new h265 codec...meaning that if I want to play this type of file it will play natively rather than needing to transcode. This then allows me to rip my blurays at super high quality at a fraction of the drive space.

Home movies are a good plus for having 4K set now. Most of the latest phones will record in 4K and its nice to see all those pixels. Similarly almost any half decent digital camera or smartphone has plenty enough pixels for for 4k. So rather than viewing your pics on a rubbish resolution small screen laptop, seeing those pics in their full glory on big 4K set is the way to go, rather than seeing them being compressed/downscaled. Have to agree though with the general negativity re lack of full 4K contract and standards re HDR which is why I'm happy to stay with my obsolete but actually rather good, Plasma.

Curved screens add NOTHING to the experience

but they'll also look just as good on a 1080p screen definitely not THE reason to buy a 4K set right now, especially knowing how many home movies are actually worth watching before they are edited

My main tv is a Samsung 55" and the picture quality in SD is rubbish and have a plasma Panasonic 50" in bedroom and no doubt the the plasma has a better SD quality on the plasma but as the most people have a LCD tv they will have seen this.A 15 year old Sony 32" reproduced good quality when supplied with a quality channel like the BBC,but still dispute wether a a low quality channel can reproduce quality to plasma or lcd upscaling magic or not.

A pretty dumb comment from an inexperienced ball bag.

Plasma 4 life!!