DENON PICCOLO N4 Network Music Receiver with Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and Ethernet Connectivity - White (Inc Denon SC-N4 speakers) - £199 @ RicherSounds

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DENON PICCOLO N4 Network Music Receiver with Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and Ethernet Connectivity - White (Inc Denon SC-N4 speakers) £199.00 @ RicherSounds

£199 RicherSounds27 Apr 16

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deeky

27 Apr 16

Hi-Fi Deal of the Week - Ends tomorrow 28/4/2016 (STILL AVAILABLE 29/04)

Available online and instore.

This looks like a bit of a bargain. Retails from around £185+ but speakers are usually an extra £70.

Cute and compact to look at but with a powerful heart, the Denon Piccolo N4 punches hard.

Small box, big sound
Despite its compact size, the Denon Piccolo manages to punch hard. Using a digital amplifier it packs a power output of 40 watts per channel (at 4 ohms) for a sound that's big enough to fill most rooms. Supplied with two-way speakers, the sound is also life-like, detailed and much more spacious than similarly-priced Bluetooth systems with non-detachable speakers.

Support for high resolution music
With support for FLAC HD/WAV/AIFF/ALAC files at up to 192kHz/24 bit resolution (FLAC), the Piccolo offers the potential for sound quality that greatly exceeds CD. With High Resolution music files now widely available, this is a great way of hearing music at its best.

NFC Bluetooth and AirPlay
With Bluetooth connectivity it's easy to connect compatible devices and stream music wirelessly. Connect up your smartphone, tablet, laptop, PC and Mac and stream your music library or favourite music streaming services with ease. Thanks to NFC (Near Field Communication) connecting via Bluetooth is as simple swiping your compatible device next to the Denon. The Piccolo is also compatible with Apple AirPlay, making it ideal for use with your iPhone or iPad.

DLNA and built-in wi-fi for the complete networking experience
The Piccolo also comes with Wi-Fi, Internet radio and DLNA. Simply connect to your home network using an Ethernet connection or Wi-Fi and you can access thousands of Internet radio sites via vTuner as well as subscription services such as Spotify Connect. DLNA 1.5 compatibility lets you stream from other sources such as your laptop or NAS drive.

USB, Optical, and RCA phono inputs
Up front there's a USB socket. Compatible with most iPods/iPhones, it offers a convenient way of listening to music stored on your iPhone, iPod or USB storage device. Other connections include an RCA phono input and an optical digital input - ideal for connecting your TV, Blu-ray player, games console or other compatible source. Finally, there's a subwoofer output, giving you the chance to significantly boost the sound with your own active subwoofer.

For the little system that thinks big, don't overlook the Denon Piccolo N4.

Spec:
Denon Ceol Piccolo N4 Features:

High power output, 40W+40W (1kHz,4ohm)
Integrates Denon hi-fi component sound engineering into compact size
“Simple & straight” circuit design and minimum signal path, to optimize performance in sound quality
Fully digital concept from input signal to output power stage
Optimising Filter, to align the DRA-N4 with SC-N4 speaker system characteristic
Local sound-tuned 2 way speaker system
iPhone / iPod playback via digital connection for high-quality sound
Supports AirPlay® for iDevice and iTunes music streaming
Bluetooth wireless streaming with NFC pairing for instant playback from mobile devices
Supports Wi-Fi Sharing (iOS devices)
Supports WPS (Wi-Fi Protected Setup)
Supports WMM (Wi-Fi Multimedia)
Front panel USB port for connecting iPhone, iPod, iPad, smartphones and USB memory drives
Supports Bluetooth and NFC
Supports Spotify connect
Gapless playback for AIFF/ALAC
Supports 192kHz/24bit AIFF file
Windows 8/RT Compatibility
Wi-Fi 11n support
Support for Wi-Fi Sharing with iOS device
Main Unit - DRA-N4 Dimensions (WxHxD): 200 x 90 x 240 x- 2.3kg

Top comments

maccy1

27 Apr 16 9 #3

That's a weight off of your shoulders deek :man::laughing:

http://i322.photobucket.com/albums/nn407/milkohol/videogifs/house-boombox.gif

very nice for a conservatory as well :smile:

Tomb

27 Apr 16 5 #26

I've just looked and speakers are not included.

Chanchi32

27 Apr 16 5 #14

the conservatory eh - hobgoblin got her way

sradmad

27 Apr 16 5 #2

Quality, nice price, heat added :smiley:

Latest comments (67)

breslau

1 May 16 #67

I bought this this weekend. It's a nice little hi-fi system, and the speakers are basically free. Leaves it open to upgrade / get different speakers later on (the ones you get are pretty good).
I read some non-plussed reviews about the functions on it, but the first thing it did when I plugged it in was upgrade the firmware. Better value for money than a sound bar imo.

Ego-X

30 Apr 16 #66

Ah ... Sorry I should have expanded the quote instead of jumping to a conclusion.

inertia

30 Apr 16 #65

Add a chromecast to the dm-40, instead of getting this.
You get a CD player, offline use of dab etc etc

deeky

30 Apr 16 #64

That's not what he was saying.

Ego-X

29 Apr 16 #63

That's Danone ya muppet :P

Ego-X

29 Apr 16 #62

Why use a Chromecast with this?

chrisredmayne

29 Apr 16 2 #61

mmmm denon

biddilybah

29 Apr 16 1 #60

We just thought it...

Heat added Deek

https://media2.giphy.com/media/U7IaMMFoVwo7u/200.gif

:laughing:

Jonnyblock

29 Apr 16 #59

£10 off for VIP discount?

qwerta369

29 Apr 16 #58

Seems like a good price to me. Hot.

evilhomeruk

29 Apr 16 #57

The problem, for me, is that, especially for sporting events, that the internet streams are owed by a different rights holder. So if I want to listen to my beloved team on local BBC radio then the internet stream is replaced by an annoying placeholder, and I have to hook my LG G4, and use the FM Radio function, to my hifi.

azocarbo

28 Apr 16 1 #56

Mine is being delivered tomorrow, can't wait! Thanks :innocent:

cicobuff

28 Apr 16 1 #55

That's pretty good service, was not aware that they offered that option...I thought it was within a couple of weeks after purchase, nice one.

Tomb

28 Apr 16 1 #54

Just contacted Richersounds and I can take out the warranty at anytime in the next 12 months.

I'll hold off till I've got the unit & all is good then I'll call up and add the warranty.

Thanks again :-)

Kebabselector

28 Apr 16 1 #53

Just to confirm there is no DAB, or I certainly haven't found it. Internet radio is there and most DAB stations are available online (Probably better quality than DAB's 80k mono stations!). I've not dabbled with the alarm (not looked if there's one) so can comment about that.

My main use for this is Airplay from either my iDevices or iTunes server. Apple did mess up the labelling of tracks in an early iOS 9 update, but track names appear fine now via Airplay.

cicobuff

28 Apr 16 1 #52

DAB never really affords much bitrate, neither does Internet Radio so sound quality wise there is no real advantage with one over the other. As far as choice goes though the world is your oyster with Internet Radio compared to DAB not that I really make use of it myself with either network streaming options I have with my own Denon and Pioneer systems.

As you opted for free delivery it does state 3-5 days so doubtful sadly you would get it before the May Bank Holiday. Only time I had delivery was with my Pioneer Receiver, did not have one instore, it was a warranty replacement for a borked Yamaha. Top notch DPD timed delivery.

fishmaster

27 Apr 16 #51

If you want something that kicks this units ass then get this >

http://www.richersounds.com/product/streaming-hi-fi-and-network-audio-players/cambridge-audio/minx-xi/camb-minx-xi-blk

Obviously it costs more and doesn't come with speakers, so that makes it cost a lot more. It's an option if you're interested in the advantages of streaming. It does what most people require of Hi-Fi sound without getting in to b*ll*cks audiophile territory.

mfactor

27 Apr 16 1 #50

Must resist :confused:................... Have the predecessor of the Denon M40 the good old M38 which has served me well , coupled with the Chromecast Audio it does all I want........ but really want to get into these new fangled streaming internet thingys (Have not played a CD in years) .........Luckily its in white :disappointed: ......... so resisting so far.............

But have heat...............

cicobuff

27 Apr 16 #49

They probably hope that people forget the policy.

Tomb

27 Apr 16 1 #48

Cheers cicobuff, I didn't realise that claiming back the cost was possible.

I'll have to set an alarm to claim it back in 6 years :-)

I didn't add the warranty when ordering but will give them a call in the morning.

I did go for the free delivery but only ordered about 7ish so not sure when it will get here.

Theres no decent radio/dab signal in my house so using a tablet / bluetooth setup with my current stereo. Its ok but my wife & kids cant get to grips with it so hope this simplifies things.

deeky

27 Apr 16 #47

Did you go for the free 5 day delivery? I did, but I ordered it about 15.30 and it's being delivered tomorrow.

cicobuff

27 Apr 16 1 #46

Their Policy...for an extra £19.99 and if you file stuff in a place you know where to find and can remember dates then I would say just go for it.

http://www.richersounds.com/images/6yrsupercare_moneyback.gif

cicobuff

27 Apr 16 1 #45

How many more audio threads are you going to attempt jokes in? None of your Sony jokes are anywhere near as funny as the classic Loughboro Guy Onkyo thread of old.

Tomb

27 Apr 16 1 #44

I've ordered one.

Considering the "Supercare Warranty" for £19.90.

I wouldn't normally buy an extended warranty for something like this but I guess this "may" have more chance of developing a fault than a regular micro hi-fi.

I think it comes with a 2 year Denon Warranty anyway so my question is - is the £19.90 good value for the extra 4 year protection or should I just leave it.

Answers on a postcard - appreciate your opinions.

DudleyGuy

27 Apr 16 #43

Cold. ON is a cheap brand, Asda own make.

For this much, you can get Sony.

Tomb

27 Apr 16 3 #42

Sexist.... that's a bit strong. !!

I agree that if we had said: "this person clearly cant use a computer, insists on being right even when wrong, refuses to apologise for mistakes and is argumentative so it must be a woman" then that would indeed have been sexist.

But we didn't :wink:

cicobuff

27 Apr 16 #41

To err is human, it's a good quality :smile: It makes people seem far more personable :man:

deeky

27 Apr 16 2 #40

So am I then :confused: I was under the impression there was a DAB tuner as well. I'd better edit the OP.

Schoolboy error :laughing: Never noticed the 'X's under tuner :laughing:

http://s32.postimg.org/gukro0apx/screenshot_1120.png

Hope thoughtful isn't still looking :stuck_out_tongue:

aliturner1303

27 Apr 16 #39

Oh ok so i can in theory have the internet radio wake me up? About to pull the trigger, but if this could be confirmed?

Thanks

cicobuff

27 Apr 16 #38

Sorry, are you confusing with the DM40 that has been discussed here? This unit does not have DAB, it has Internet Radio and an alarm clock whereby you can select which input source and volume it comes on at. Manual [here]

deeky

27 Apr 16 #37

I'm pretty sure you can. You can set the alarm to wake you with a track from your ipod so imagine a DAB alarm is a piece of cake.

Here's the manual.

http://manuals.denon.com/DRAN4/EU/EN/index.php

aliturner1303

27 Apr 16 #9

Does the system have a DAB alarm, so can i use it as alarm in the morning with the radio?

aliturner1303 to aliturner1303

27 Apr 16 1 #36

Anyone who already has one can they confirm please?

Thoughtful

27 Apr 16 1 #33

Foir a start why do you sexists automatically assume 'him' ?

Here's the google quote:

Denon Piccolo N4 White Streaming Mini System inc Speakers

So if you have a problem contact google !

deeky to Thoughtful

27 Apr 16 3 #34

Sexists?

You'd have been better just not replying, after all, anyone can make a mistake. Bit rich to come back throwing insults.

cicobuff to Thoughtful

27 Apr 16 1 #35

I think a simple apology and explanation of the error would have sufficed instead of trying to lay blame elsewhere :smiley: To err is human (whether male of female) :wink:

At least you know in future if you ever post any deals to look beyond the shopping results, Peter Tyson would have been even cheaper if they had thrown the speakers into the equation.

deeky

27 Apr 16 1 #32

I'm gonna remember the name for future use :laughing:

deeky

27 Apr 16 #29

I think you meant to quote thoughtful? :smile:

Tomb to deeky

27 Apr 16 2 #31

I really am getting confused.... :-)

Not noticing the speakers aint included is an easy mistake for "Thoughtful" to make but its a bit odd to continue arguing that they are included even after the oversight has been pointed out.

Perhaps he has started on the weekend vino already - I cleary have :wink:

dereklogan7

27 Apr 16 #30

Thought you were kidding with his name. Very appropriate. :smiley:

anishmathw

27 Apr 16 #28

I bought these recently from Amazon at £238 .. Good quality sound

deeky

27 Apr 16 1 #27

This is Superfi, are you gonna make me bring the other 2?

http://s32.postimg.org/m0d2wpf0l/screenshot_1118.png

Tomb

27 Apr 16 5 #26

I've just looked and speakers are not included.

Thoughtful

27 Apr 16 #25

Yes it includes the speakers and I didn't vote at all so retraction isn't an issue !

Tomb

27 Apr 16 1 #24

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aRCTLdu8uiA/U2vCrzNXcLI/AAAAAAAAGtk/nOFMyEB7wPo/s1600/homersimpsondoh.png

deeky

27 Apr 16 4 #1

http://www.richersounds.com/showimage.php?image=316307.jpg&max_width=555px&max_height=545px

summerof76 to deeky

27 Apr 16 3 #23

Its playing No Regrets, heat added :laughing:

cicobuff

27 Apr 16 #22

If same spec at Superfi, Richer Sounds will price beat.

Thoughtful

27 Apr 16 #20

Cheaper at Home AV Direct £199 and Superfi £198 and Nottingham HiFi too !
Not much of a deal tbh.

deeky to Thoughtful

27 Apr 16 #21

Really? You checked that the speakers are included I suppose?

Shame you can't retract your cold vote, eh? :wink:

djdope

27 Apr 16 #4

Would this be better than a dm40 in terms of sound quality?

deeky to djdope

27 Apr 16 3 #5

I'm not an expert but I've just looked and the DM40 gets really good reviews so I'd guess not. That wouldn't be to say that this one is bad, it also gets good reviews. Then there's the difference in price suggests that the DM40 would be better. The main feature of this one is the internet and streaming capabilities. The DM40 doesn't have those.

cicobuff to djdope

27 Apr 16 #19

Refer to my #10. Just to add with regards sound quality, I doubt at these sort of price points on mini systems you are going to get much of a difference. Power output wise the N4 has 10W per channel extra at 40W per channel, and bear in mind the DM40 comes without speakers for around £180. They both have one analogue input with the DM40 having an advantage of having 1 extra (2) digital optical inputs on the rear.

Tomb

27 Apr 16 #18

Yep looks like no stock anywhere.

cicobuff

27 Apr 16 1 #17

Oh I see, I didn't read all the posts...well its useful advice then for djdope to mull over.

There was a [problem] with many a Denon/Marantz (same group) Network Receiver last August whereby there was a couple of days outage due to a erroneous response with a server request. After initial vague information from D&M Holdings the issue was rapidly fixed.

Other than that, I have to say I have been impressed with network streaming, gapless FLAC playback etc. I have owned my Denon Network Streamer for around 3 years now. Clearly the interface has not changed, and if not broke it doesn't need fixing.

deeky

27 Apr 16 3 #16

Meh :laughing:

deeky

27 Apr 16 #15

It seems to be although the specification is different, a review suggests the description is of the N5 model.

Even so, I checked stock in about 10 cities around the country and couldn't find any stock anywhere.

Chanchi32

27 Apr 16 5 #14

the conservatory eh - hobgoblin got her way

deeky

27 Apr 16 #13

I've already bought this for the conservatory so as long as you didn't say it's crap, I'm happy. I was just fishing for a bit more advice for djdope further up ^^

Tomb

27 Apr 16 #12

Same price at Argos ?? (If you can find stock).

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/2377212.htm#pdpFullDesc

Cheaper I suppose with a £10 voucher from Argos.....

Zenec

27 Apr 16 2 #11

After a bit of hesitation got these yesterday to replace my broken active speakers (Roth Oli Powa 5 I think). Now, I am quite glad to find out that others seem to agree that it's a good deal.

So far very happy - the set looks really good, the speakers are quite small but sound really well, not quite sure what What-Hifi didn't like about them? (Review here - http://www.whathifi.com/denon/ceol-piccolo-n4/review )

It's also nice to have internet radio and spotify connect in addition to bluetooth. It also has an optical input so will connect my TV to it.

Keep in mind that if you want to connect your own speakers, there's a hidden setting somewhere to switch off speaker optimisation that's meant for the Denon speakers included in the set. Supposedly, it messes up sound a bit when other speakers are used.

Make sure to buy the extended warranty, it's really worth it. Without it I'd still be stuck with my half broken Roth Oli Powa's :wink:

cicobuff

27 Apr 16 #10

I would say weigh up the factors....

Are you likely to listen to CDs at all or stick to FLAC/MP3?
If primarily streaming FLAC/MP3, would you like the convenience of not having to use a tablet/laptop?
How good is your broadband connection?

The DAB is not really an issue as it can be fulfilled by Internet Radio.

For me I have a google chromecast for the kitchen hooked up to the Kitchen DAB for streaming music.

My other two systems are a Pioneer Networked AV Receiver and an older Marantz Receiver (not networked) combined with a Denon Network Audio Player with an identical interface to this N4.

Although I can control both devices with an android tablet for music navigation I find myself with the Denon and the Pioneer, just simply looking at the display, navigating the menus for playing my FLAC. I do like the convenience of an integral display rather than having to rely on another device.

Obviously streaming music in the kitchen however I am dependent on the tablet for selecting from my NAS drive.

Cannot really tell you which is the 'best' option, just giving you some food for thought.

I

008

27 Apr 16 1 #8

>>>>>
Think the dm40 +cca deeks, as at least with the dm40 you can listen to the dab or cd's
if ye olde internet is down ;-) if you have a rock solid set up and no dsl downtime then
the price of this with speakers is amazing!

deeky

27 Apr 16 2 #7

True enough. So which would you say was best? DM40 and CC audio, or this?

inertia

27 Apr 16 1 #6

Just add a chromecast audio... Bobs your uncle.

maccy1

27 Apr 16 9 #3

That's a weight off of your shoulders deek :man::laughing:

very nice for a conservatory as well :smile:

sradmad

27 Apr 16 5 #2