Depending on your view on the value of TC's Division, this could be the first sub-£200 GTX 970 that been put up for sale, certainly from mainstream seller.
Blurb incoming...
•VR READY
•Free Tom Clancy's The Division Download
•NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 GPU
•4GB GDDR5 Memory - or 3.5Gb depending on your viewpoint.
•PCI-Express Interface
NVIDIA GeForce GTX graphics cards provide a powerful next-generation platform for the ultimate immersive virtual reality experience. NVIDIA graphics cards that are marked with "GeForce GTX VR Ready" ensure that your VR games will be optimized with a best-in-class GPU. Immersive VR requires seven times the graphics processing power of traditional 3D apps and games. NVIDIA's unique set of features, such as multi-res shading mean you get the right level of performance, image quality, and latency to ensure your VR experience is nothing short of amazing. Get VR ready with NVIDIA GeForce GTX graphics.
The GeForce® GTX™ 970 is a high-performance graphics card designed for serious gaming. Powered by new NVIDIA® Maxwell™ architecture, it features advanced technologies and class-leading graphics for incredible gaming experiences.
This innovative GPU doubles the performance of previous-generation cards* and provides realistic lighting and support for smooth, tear-free NVIDIA G-SYNC™ technology. Plus, it o‑ers Super Resolution technology for 4K-quality gaming-even on 1080p displays.
I have a Zotac GTX 970 I bought in November 2014 - cost me £245 inc Far Cry 4.
Nearly 18 months later, still nearly the same price...
pbyron1
11 Mar 163#27
Bucket of popcorn in hand, watching silly fanboys slap each other. Hilarious.
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chapchap
11 Mar 16#1
Do these not come with Zotac's extended 5 year warranty (if you register them within 28 days of receipt)? Heat added but wish it was sub-200 quid with no game. I wonder how long it will be until they are?
ukez to chapchap
11 Mar 16#5
3-6 months
Insider9 to chapchap
11 Mar 161#8
I also wish it was sub £200. Unfortunately due to EU referendum we're screwed and the price of most if not all electronic shot up by quite a lot. We should be benefiting as AMD is about to release their new line up but weak pound screws it all up.
The worse part it will only get worse if it is going to get better. Regardless, this is a hot deal.
jamesybhoy1982
11 Mar 16#2
I'm torn between the 970 and 390! Edging towards the extra frames from the 390 but at this price and with the division I might just bite at this
Flynn_Lives to jamesybhoy1982
11 Mar 16#3
I chose the 970 and never looked back! Very happy with it, and The Division is AWESOME!
shaz2sxy
11 Mar 16#4
Very good price as used cards going for around £200+
Ashe
11 Mar 166#6
I have a Zotac GTX 970 I bought in November 2014 - cost me £245 inc Far Cry 4.
Nearly 18 months later, still nearly the same price...
chapchap to Ashe
11 Mar 16#7
Blame AMD for not being up to the task.
chapchap
11 Mar 161#9
Good points about exchange rates but ( presuming we stay in the EU) it will get better from July. Yet still- my recent experience with AMD make me want to wait for Pascals...used to like ATI but wtf happened to them?! Atm trying to see if I can get Amazon to price match eBuyer.
kanjimoore
11 Mar 16#10
amd gpus are actually getting rather significant gains in dx12 with polaris set to bring efficiency right in line with nvidia also they are implimenting a standard for external gpus for laptops
alien7
11 Mar 16#11
Great price, voted HOT!
chapchap
11 Mar 161#12
So will their drivers not be such painful shi te anymore? Hope so...
Ferrari100
11 Mar 16#13
GTX 970 what?
DX12 - The future of high performance PC gaming belongs to AMD hardware
Cheamon to Ferrari100
11 Mar 16#21
Don't delude yourself from benchmarks from a single game. Nvidia is a greedy company who don't share any of their software and work closely with lots of developers, letting them use their gameworks and other software whereas AMD are not allowed access to this which makes optimization very hard for them.
Dont get me wrong AMD is by far the superior and less greedy company, but this won't translate into in game performance.
Nate1492 to Ferrari100
11 Mar 16#24
So, unconfirmed German benchmarks it is today?
What happened to GoW when it was actually released?
How about we wait for a reputable site to publish Hitman FPS charts? I mean, you've been wrong so many times before about pre-release AMD topics, why should we believe you today?
liammiller357 to Ferrari100
12 Mar 16#57
Comment
With the impending release of the GTX1080 rumoured to be launching in May this year? I doubt what you say has any weight.
BetaRomeo to Ferrari100
13 Mar 16#71
Huh? That's strange. Because in DX12, a cheap 970 outperforms AMD's flagship Fury X in Rise of the Tomb Raider.
Don't buy this card get yourself a 390 best bang for buck card. Go check the dx12 benches as nvidia is getting slaughtered and they are already gimping this card. Kepler or 700 series cards have dropped full support so it won't be long before these cards get dropped.
Nvidia is Shockley bad at dx12 games. Just benched my fury and my m8 did his 980ti and guess what happens ? Lol
chapchap to Smoking173850
11 Mar 16#26
Sniff sniff...dog? Sniff sniff..cat? Sniff sniff... no bullchit!!
Smoking173850
11 Mar 16#19
Nvidia can't fix dx12 with a driver update on the 900 series as its hardware not software. No async compute and 6 months for this async driver and where is it?
Nvidia is getting slaughtered 390x beats Titan X lol
Ferrari100
11 Mar 16#20
well, of course you would expect a £1000 GPU to beat a £400 by at least 100% to get a similar price/performance ratio.
also a Titan X gets beaten by an overclocked 980Ti
what's this?
Smoking173850
11 Mar 161#22
Nvidia power efficiency is a fake anyway. They underclock the card to give it better efficiency so it looks good and then when u overclock the efficiency goes out the window and every one then says it's a great overclocker lol
Anyhow don't buy a 900series now as its pointless buy a 390 and save the cash. Best bang for buck card
Gkains
11 Mar 161#23
Assuming you mean the Titan X not the original Titan or the Titan Black (both of which proved to be have poor longevity)?
Seems that ComputerBase consider the Titan X such a niche product that for new game benchmarks they often leave it out (not in the Hitman benches, nor the The Division, but it is in their buying tips roundup.
Nate1492
11 Mar 16#25
Wow, that's a new one!
Power efficiency is fake? Got any shred of proof there? Sounds like complete hogwash.
pbyron1
11 Mar 163#27
Bucket of popcorn in hand, watching silly fanboys slap each other. Hilarious.
Smoking173850 to pbyron1
11 Mar 16#32
I'm not a fan boy but I don't like the way nvidia has made the PC a closed Eco system and gimping games. They clearly are gimping there cards.
290x was beating the Titian and guess what beats the Titian now a 960 lol
That's disgusting way to treat your customers and the PC community in general. Use to buy nvidia when they weren't [email protected]
Smoking173850
11 Mar 16#28
Oh really lol
I benched marked rise of the tomb raider on dx12 on my fury and my m8 did his 980ti and yeah am I talking bu11sh1t?
Wait for all the dx12 benches as your in for a treat if your a nvidia fan boy which u clearly are as your in denial and damage control.
Seriously amd's gpu kick ass in dx12 as nvidia has no async my m8 lost 2fps in dx12 lmao
I know u bought a amd card and trust me on this one you are going to thank your lucky stars u did.
Go look at the benches and I can confirm its legit as I have ran them.
Nvidia has already dropped full support for 700 series and amd is still fully supporting the 7000 series.
Performance is already being nerfed on the 970 and 980 go look at need for speed dx11.
Any how don't care if u don't believe me as watch all the news and YouTube clips and again I can confirm its real as I have already done them.
If pascal does not have async its dead on arrival.
Deus ex is coming up and again amd is going to smash the 900 series.
Amd cpu are getting a massive boost on the dx12 but I can't confirm that as I have skylake.
Amd is coming back with a bang and I told u this a year ago but you refused to believe and now look, nvidia has no driver or hardware for async and u can't use a driver updat as its hardware so 6 months and we are still waiting for it
chapchap
11 Mar 162#29
I blameTory scum and their cutbacks....people like you used to be protected but not anymore.
Gkains
11 Mar 16#30
ComputerBase are one of the most reputable review sites. Very thorough tests, good methodologies, large range of card tested. Good investigation of clock rates during gaming runs so cards which boost like crazy when cool but then drop back don't fool short benchmark runs.
Far better than most any English language site. In fact, a lot of English language sites are poor at benchmarking and testing, so I am glad to have sites like Computerbase.de. Hardware.fr is another excellent sites with great reviews including excellent infra-red imagery of graphic cards (especially important for determining if for example the VRMs on a given card get properly cooled).
chapchap
11 Mar 16#31
And that is why we are all very proud of you. Please don't go on any rampages now the tories have cut back front line services...
Smoking173850
11 Mar 16#33
You said I was taking bs but clearly I'm not and wouldn't recommend a 979 as its got no legs.
390 is the card to get simple
Smoking173850
11 Mar 16#34
NATE 1492 what was u saying the last few months ?
Get the 970 where is your proof that amd async is better?
I'm trying to save them money you said lol
Well well done as you have made them buy redundant none lasting cards. This is what inexperience brings and you listen to clever marketing.
You have been taken for a complete fool as your not experienced yet.
You will learn the hard way for sure.
Don't have brand loyalty and you will say I'm a amd fan boy but that's simply not true as I have had nvidia cards in the past but the last 4 years nvidia have turned into a greedy bunch of robbing a55 holes.
Your eyes will be opened and you will see.
Then amd will turn into the scum bags of they become to to strong and mop up too much market share
Smoking173850
11 Mar 16#35
NATE 1492 what was u saying the last few months ?
Get the 970 where is your proof that amd async is better?
I'm trying to save them money you said lol
Well well done as you have made them buy redundant none lasting cards. This is what inexperience brings and you listen to clever marketing.
You have been taken for a complete fool as your not experienced yet.
You will learn the hard way for sure.
Don't have brand loyalty and you will say I'm a amd fan boy but that's simply not true as I have had nvidia cards in the past but the last 4 years nvidia have turned into a greedy bunch of robbing g1ts.
Your eyes will be opened and you will see.
Then amd will turn into the scum bags of they become to to strong and mop up too much market share
chapchap
11 Mar 16#36
Is 979 your IQ times 15?
Smoking173850
11 Mar 16#37
This is how I know your butt hurt lol
Picking silly things on a touch screen.
I can taste your salty tears from your eyes lol
chapchap
11 Mar 16#38
I am sad and unhappy you find my "tears" so salty- I have been following the advice in the link just for you my little girly sweetheart.
Nvidia wanna be fan boy why are you so butt hurt? Lol
I don't get why your so angry as you have a amd card because you can't afford a nvidia card and you just got a massive performance boost and extra life for dx12 and your still not happy?
Think about it as that's messed up :smirk:
Smoking173850
11 Mar 16#40
Nate I can confirm the dx12 results are genuine done them on rise of the tomb raider and my m8 980ti just got curb stomped lol
mark6226
11 Mar 16#41
I have the 970'ans it's excellent. It effortlessly maxes most games out at 3840x2160 or 2750 x 2048. I tried the beta of the division and wasn't impressed. It easily maxed out at 3840x2160 and the graphics are some way behind Witcher 3 and metal gear 5. Gameplay was repetitive and boring. But many people these days seem to prefer that kind of shooter to ones with a proper story. Basically this game is bobbing up and down from behind a wall and shooting. AI was awful and NPC would withstand barrages of headshots.
Silly
rev6
11 Mar 16#42
Hitman is an AMD sponsored title. Its expected that AMD GPU's will benefit from it in development.
The 290X 8GB was the best GPU to buy at the time by a long shot seeing how the 390X is doing.
chapchap
11 Mar 16#43
I had to read that twice as I couldn't understand what you were putting across.My second AMD replacement is going back as the drivers are dreadful- hardware is fine but drivers mean you can't put that power down on the road ( so to speak.) AMD have a fraction of the market and are cheap for a reason.
Nate1492
11 Mar 16#44
So, why not link to a legit review? I mean, you just said "lol" and "m8" as part of your defense.
What about GoW? Does that game not exist?
chapchap
11 Mar 16#45
I have learnt my lesson :wink: cheap crap Vs. refined loveliness. AMD are like those cheap V8 yanktanks vs. a European car..something like a Buick vs. A BMW M5. I prefer the refinement and ease of use of properly put together product than the dreadful *current* r9 cards.
Buts that is only based on experience and nothing else.
I am trying to get Amazon to price match the better dual fan version of this card but they are only offering my free next day delivery at the mo.
Smoking173850
11 Mar 16#46
That's your fault for buying a bad aftermarket board same goes with nvidia cards. Go with sapphire tri-X as they have always done alright by me. You say that amd is junk but maxwell cards are really half a gpu with missing features stripped.
That's why it's so much more efficient but they rig that by under clocking it and then makes it look better because it over clocks and then the efficiency has gone out the window anyway. Clever marketing trick.
Sorry for the spat earlier as I don't come here to argue so I will apologise :wink:
chapchap
11 Mar 16#47
I bought a Sapphire AMD card- hardware great but drivers are shockingly bad. Spent hours on both cards trying all sorts of things to fix them but had to return them-seemingly AMD software is below par.Look after yourself and hope you success.
OnlyJoeKing
11 Mar 16#48
I've got a Sapphire R390 Nitro and haven't had any driver problems, it's been fantastic. Not sure what it's all supposed to be about tbh. Lovely with a freesync monitor too. Can't comment on this delirious DX12 speculation though.
Smoking173850 to OnlyJoeKing
11 Mar 16#51
Yeah sapphire amd cards are good and freesync is excellent. Wouldn't want to go back to a normal monitor now.
Already benched dx12 and it's true my fury is gaining massively and my m8 had his 980ti lose 2fps.
People on steam are losing 10-20fps on dx12 with 970 but how true that is I don't know as that could be amd fanboys bs.
980ti does lose 2fps and amd gains confirmed :wink:
Smoking173850
11 Mar 16#49
That would lead me to believe that it a fault with the card. Seriously never had a issue with sapphire on a amd board but I do get the tri-X version.
Get the shop to take it back and get a replacement. Which one did u get exactly ?
Billythebubble
11 Mar 16#50
Keep em dropping, nearly time to replace my R9 270x
Smoking173850
12 Mar 16#52
My other mate has just benched his Titian X and gained 0fps on dx12.
Atleast he didn't lose any frames I guess lol
BetaRomeo to Smoking173850
12 Mar 161#55
Well, if ever we're after an unimpeachable, verified source, we clearly have no further to look than Smoking173273 and his m8s.
bluepeter11
12 Mar 16#53
I had this exact card, the blower design was to hot and noisy for my tastes so i had to remove it and use a third party heatsink and fan
BetaRomeo
12 Mar 16#54
Yes, but by your standards, Nvidia were commended for it!
grandadgamer
12 Mar 16#56
Seriously, how many games coming out this year are dx12? Hardly any. Don't get me wrong, the AMD gains are impressive but you are totally cherrry picking. Dx12 is hardly relevant at the moment and there is no such thing as future proofing in it. Learn the lesson yourself if you really need too. In the meantime, enjoy the performance of this card, choose the dx11 render path if you are that bothered.
Buy what you need to run the games you want to play now. Otherwise just wait for next gen.
Also, you are spreading misinformation about power efficiency. Maxwell is more effcient. Virtually every review I think I've ever read will show that under load.
thepope2000
12 Mar 16#58
It is now back up to £249.99
pjlhot
12 Mar 16#59
Now £249.99
chapchap
12 Mar 16#60
Just got Amazon to price match ( for me not everyone when I read their email) so can get this dual fan shorty version of this card for 230 quid. I need a card as I have sent two AMD crap back recently. I need a think if I go for it...
Don't do it, they've been this price for nearly 18 months and we're right on the cusp of all the new tech. Switch to your iGPU and replay some retro classics, or go fishing for a couple of months, or drive around Australia's coast (perfect climate for it right now). Just don't waste £230 on this, or in a few months you'll have a 2-year-old GPU outperformed by new mid-range cards.
chapchap
12 Mar 16#62
You are right- I'll play age of empires for a while until the new cards drop :smiley:
Ferrari100
12 Mar 16#63
I'm pretty sure that Pascal won't have the required hardware either. It will be easy to test that with DX12 games. Nvidia won't be able to hide the fact.
TwentyTwo
12 Mar 161#64
Leaf blower design.
The Division
Over £200 still for the 970, despite new cards in a few months.
Cold for all the above. There was a 970 listed for £200 on black friday 2014 for crying out loud.
grandadgamer
12 Mar 16#65
Haha, seriously? Sorry, but you've based this on what information exactly? Show me the specs for Pascal then. I honestly don't care if you're right or wrong, it's just an amazing thing to say.
BetaRomeo
12 Mar 162#66
Don't make fun. I always find Ferrari100's tech predictions very useful. From his past results, he has about an 8% accuracy rate, so you just take what he says and can be almost certain that the opposite will happen.
Pasanda
12 Mar 16#67
I had the same experience. Did the polar opposite of what he advised a year ago and made one of the best investments in gaming tech ever.
robertmellink
12 Mar 16#68
price showing as £249.99??? am I missing something.
adamskiidu_44
12 Mar 16#69
Damn, I just bought a windforce 3 one for 226
rev6 to adamskiidu_44
13 Mar 16#70
You bought the better version.
Doogeh to adamskiidu_44
13 Mar 16#73
thank god. this one is a piece of ****. you did well to ft the wind force!
Doogeh
13 Mar 16#72
Ugh. Blower style cooler. I hope you enjoy having a jet engine inside your PC. **** cooler around....
plath
13 Mar 16#74
Price hasn't gone lower than £200 for more than a year and people are still voting GTX 970s at £230 hot. Even when Pascal is only 2 months away.
HUKD at it's finest.
Ferrari100
13 Mar 16#75
Rise of the Tomb raider.
DIfference is AMD will sort through Nvidia hidden **** waorks and fix the issue. WIll most likely perform better.
Nvidia can't fix hardware problems ala Ashes of The Singularity and Hitman as its hardware causing the problem.
I mean come on, Nvidia have full access to all code developed by AMD. Why sooo behind??
Nvidia hide their [email protected] from AMD so some reverse engineering has to happen.
Of course, you are completely blinded by this fact.
BetaRomeo
13 Mar 16#76
Errr... because they don't have async compute in hardware. Didn't you know that?
But AMD have access to all the Linux code that Nvidia do. So why are AMD so utterly behind in over 2,000 games?
Not just a little behind, but with Nvidia's £70 750 beating out AMD's £400 Fury.
So for anyone wanting a Steam Machine, or even just the option of SteamOS in future, AMD is not an option. That's over 2,000 games where Nvidia doesn't just eke ahead (as AMD does in three games), but has double or more of the performance of equivalent AMD hardware.
But why? AMD have had ten years to knock out a decent Linux driver. What is it that evil Nvidia is doing to stop the noble and valiant AMD from supporting fans of open source?
(Can we have some Nvidia fanboys weigh in with some absolutely ludicrous statements, please? It would be nice to correct someone from the other team for once.)
Nate1492
13 Mar 16#77
So, when AMD struggle in a game, it's NVIDIA's fault. But when AMD squeak out one benchmark that shows it even remotely ok light, you post it on every AMD/NVIDIA deal for weeks.
What about all of the issues on Linux for games that don't have Gameworks, like CS:GO?
At some point, you surely have to accept that AMD doesn't have the same driver support as NVIDIA, gameworks or not.
rev6
13 Mar 16#78
ROTTR is an NVIDIA game, as Hitman and Ashes of the Singularity are AMD games. They are developed/optimized more for the sponsored hardware. It does make sense. That's why GameWorks exists. Why else would they pay developers and help them out in development and develop features for their own GPU's? To sell more GPU's.
This is what I keep talking about. If Async Compute is the saving grace, AMD needs to sponsor more games to push it's use. In DX11 titles, GameWorks is dominating the AAA space. If AMD can turn this around in the future for DX12, that's good, but it requires money.
poopscoop
13 Mar 16#79
They're all from the same place. People who were at Fairchild started Intel and AMD, someone left AMD and started Nvidia. It is not like the rest of the world where companies hide their secrets. Employees at all firms used to talk to each other about issues with chips at Walker's Wagon Wheel. I guess they still do nowadays.
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Depending on your view on the value of TC's Division, this could be the first sub-£200 GTX 970 that been put up for sale, certainly from mainstream seller.
Blurb incoming...
•VR READY
•Free Tom Clancy's The Division Download
•NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 GPU
•4GB GDDR5 Memory - or 3.5Gb depending on your viewpoint.
•PCI-Express Interface
NVIDIA GeForce GTX graphics cards provide a powerful next-generation platform for the ultimate immersive virtual reality experience. NVIDIA graphics cards that are marked with "GeForce GTX VR Ready" ensure that your VR games will be optimized with a best-in-class GPU. Immersive VR requires seven times the graphics processing power of traditional 3D apps and games. NVIDIA's unique set of features, such as multi-res shading mean you get the right level of performance, image quality, and latency to ensure your VR experience is nothing short of amazing. Get VR ready with NVIDIA GeForce GTX graphics.
The GeForce® GTX™ 970 is a high-performance graphics card designed for serious gaming. Powered by new NVIDIA® Maxwell™ architecture, it features advanced technologies and class-leading graphics for incredible gaming experiences.
This innovative GPU doubles the performance of previous-generation cards* and provides realistic lighting and support for smooth, tear-free NVIDIA G-SYNC™ technology. Plus, it o‑ers Super Resolution technology for 4K-quality gaming-even on 1080p displays.
GPU - GeForce GTX 970
Core clock - 1050 MHz (base) 1178 MHz (boost)
Cores - 1,664
Memory Clock - 7010 MHz
Memory Size - 4GB
Memory Interface - 256-bit
Memory Type - GDDR5
DirectX - DirectX 12
OpenGL - OpenGL 4.4
DVI - 2 (2560x1600)
HDMI - 1 (4K @ 60 Hz)
DisplayPort - 1 (4K @ 60 Hz)
RAMDAC - 400 MHz
Max Resolution - 4K
SLI Supported - 3-way
Interface - PCI Express 3.0 x16 (Compatible with 1.1)
Cooler - Blower Fan
Dual-Link DVI Supported - Yes
Supported OS - Certified for Windows 8 / 7 / Vista
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Nearly 18 months later, still nearly the same price...
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The worse part it will only get worse if it is going to get better. Regardless, this is a hot deal.
Nearly 18 months later, still nearly the same price...
DX12 - The future of high performance PC gaming belongs to AMD hardware
Dont get me wrong AMD is by far the superior and less greedy company, but this won't translate into in game performance.
What happened to GoW when it was actually released?
How about we wait for a reputable site to publish Hitman FPS charts? I mean, you've been wrong so many times before about pre-release AMD topics, why should we believe you today?
With the impending release of the GTX1080 rumoured to be launching in May this year? I doubt what you say has any weight.
http://i.imgur.com/6Vdr502.jpg
Now be nice, or I'll link to a 750 Ti outperforming a Fury again. :smirk:
What are you on about?
Also,
Corrupt Nvidia driver released just a few days ago:
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-users-beware-latest-drivers-damage-pc/
Nvidia is Shockley bad at dx12 games. Just benched my fury and my m8 did his 980ti and guess what happens ? Lol
Nvidia is getting slaughtered 390x beats Titan X lol
well, of course you would expect a £1000 GPU to beat a £400 by at least 100% to get a similar price/performance ratio.
also a Titan X gets beaten by an overclocked 980Ti
what's this?
Anyhow don't buy a 900series now as its pointless buy a 390 and save the cash. Best bang for buck card
Seems that ComputerBase consider the Titan X such a niche product that for new game benchmarks they often leave it out (not in the Hitman benches, nor the The Division, but it is in their buying tips roundup.
Power efficiency is fake? Got any shred of proof there? Sounds like complete hogwash.
290x was beating the Titian and guess what beats the Titian now a 960 lol
That's disgusting way to treat your customers and the PC community in general. Use to buy nvidia when they weren't [email protected]
I benched marked rise of the tomb raider on dx12 on my fury and my m8 did his 980ti and yeah am I talking bu11sh1t?
Wait for all the dx12 benches as your in for a treat if your a nvidia fan boy which u clearly are as your in denial and damage control.
Seriously amd's gpu kick ass in dx12 as nvidia has no async my m8 lost 2fps in dx12 lmao
I know u bought a amd card and trust me on this one you are going to thank your lucky stars u did.
Go look at the benches and I can confirm its legit as I have ran them.
Nvidia has already dropped full support for 700 series and amd is still fully supporting the 7000 series.
Performance is already being nerfed on the 970 and 980 go look at need for speed dx11.
Any how don't care if u don't believe me as watch all the news and YouTube clips and again I can confirm its real as I have already done them.
If pascal does not have async its dead on arrival.
Deus ex is coming up and again amd is going to smash the 900 series.
Amd cpu are getting a massive boost on the dx12 but I can't confirm that as I have skylake.
Amd is coming back with a bang and I told u this a year ago but you refused to believe and now look, nvidia has no driver or hardware for async and u can't use a driver updat as its hardware so 6 months and we are still waiting for it
Far better than most any English language site. In fact, a lot of English language sites are poor at benchmarking and testing, so I am glad to have sites like Computerbase.de. Hardware.fr is another excellent sites with great reviews including excellent infra-red imagery of graphic cards (especially important for determining if for example the VRMs on a given card get properly cooled).
390 is the card to get simple
Get the 970 where is your proof that amd async is better?
I'm trying to save them money you said lol
Well well done as you have made them buy redundant none lasting cards. This is what inexperience brings and you listen to clever marketing.
You have been taken for a complete fool as your not experienced yet.
You will learn the hard way for sure.
Don't have brand loyalty and you will say I'm a amd fan boy but that's simply not true as I have had nvidia cards in the past but the last 4 years nvidia have turned into a greedy bunch of robbing a55 holes.
Your eyes will be opened and you will see.
Then amd will turn into the scum bags of they become to to strong and mop up too much market share
Get the 970 where is your proof that amd async is better?
I'm trying to save them money you said lol
Well well done as you have made them buy redundant none lasting cards. This is what inexperience brings and you listen to clever marketing.
You have been taken for a complete fool as your not experienced yet.
You will learn the hard way for sure.
Don't have brand loyalty and you will say I'm a amd fan boy but that's simply not true as I have had nvidia cards in the past but the last 4 years nvidia have turned into a greedy bunch of robbing g1ts.
Your eyes will be opened and you will see.
Then amd will turn into the scum bags of they become to to strong and mop up too much market share
Picking silly things on a touch screen.
I can taste your salty tears from your eyes lol
http://www.increasespermvolume.com/how-to-make-semen-taste-better/
I don't get why your so angry as you have a amd card because you can't afford a nvidia card and you just got a massive performance boost and extra life for dx12 and your still not happy?
Think about it as that's messed up :smirk:
Silly
The 290X 8GB was the best GPU to buy at the time by a long shot seeing how the 390X is doing.
What about GoW? Does that game not exist?
Buts that is only based on experience and nothing else.
I am trying to get Amazon to price match the better dual fan version of this card but they are only offering my free next day delivery at the mo.
That's why it's so much more efficient but they rig that by under clocking it and then makes it look better because it over clocks and then the efficiency has gone out the window anyway. Clever marketing trick.
Sorry for the spat earlier as I don't come here to argue so I will apologise :wink:
Already benched dx12 and it's true my fury is gaining massively and my m8 had his 980ti lose 2fps.
People on steam are losing 10-20fps on dx12 with 970 but how true that is I don't know as that could be amd fanboys bs.
980ti does lose 2fps and amd gains confirmed :wink:
Get the shop to take it back and get a replacement. Which one did u get exactly ?
Atleast he didn't lose any frames I guess lol
Buy what you need to run the games you want to play now. Otherwise just wait for next gen.
Also, you are spreading misinformation about power efficiency. Maxwell is more effcient. Virtually every review I think I've ever read will show that under load.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00NNXVPS2/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1CEVPBK07DLJ4&coliid=I3A1HPJ08XH2RM
The Division
Over £200 still for the 970, despite new cards in a few months.
Cold for all the above. There was a 970 listed for £200 on black friday 2014 for crying out loud.
HUKD at it's finest.
DIfference is AMD will sort through Nvidia hidden **** waorks and fix the issue. WIll most likely perform better.
Nvidia can't fix hardware problems ala Ashes of The Singularity and Hitman as its hardware causing the problem.
I mean come on, Nvidia have full access to all code developed by AMD. Why sooo behind??
Nvidia hide their [email protected] from AMD so some reverse engineering has to happen.
Of course, you are completely blinded by this fact.
But AMD have access to all the Linux code that Nvidia do. So why are AMD so utterly behind in over 2,000 games?
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=steamos-22-gpus&num=2
Not just a little behind, but with Nvidia's £70 750 beating out AMD's £400 Fury.
So for anyone wanting a Steam Machine, or even just the option of SteamOS in future, AMD is not an option. That's over 2,000 games where Nvidia doesn't just eke ahead (as AMD does in three games), but has double or more of the performance of equivalent AMD hardware.
But why? AMD have had ten years to knock out a decent Linux driver. What is it that evil Nvidia is doing to stop the noble and valiant AMD from supporting fans of open source?
(Can we have some Nvidia fanboys weigh in with some absolutely ludicrous statements, please? It would be nice to correct someone from the other team for once.)
What about all of the issues on Linux for games that don't have Gameworks, like CS:GO?
At some point, you surely have to accept that AMD doesn't have the same driver support as NVIDIA, gameworks or not.
This is what I keep talking about. If Async Compute is the saving grace, AMD needs to sponsor more games to push it's use. In DX11 titles, GameWorks is dominating the AAA space. If AMD can turn this around in the future for DX12, that's good, but it requires money.
BTW the deal is back up to £249