Cheapest i've seen this hard drive sell for, normally around the £175-£180 mark. £0.021 per GB.
This is an internal ARCHIVE hard drive. This means it has slow write speeds which is perfect for storing your movies/backups on.
General
Width 101.85mm
Depth 146.99mm
Height 26.11mm
Weight 780g
Compatability PC
Device Type Hard drive - internal
Performance
Cache, Multisegmented (MB) 128
SATA Transfer Rates Supported (Gb/s) 6.0/3.0/1.5
Average Data Rate, Read/Write (MB/s) 150
Max Sustained Data Rate, OD Read (MB/s 190
Voltage
Voltage Tolerance, Inc. Noise (5V) ±5%
Voltage Tolerance, Inc. Noise (12V) ±10%
Reliability/Data Integrity
Load/Unload Cycles 300,000
Nonrecoverable Read Errors per Bits Read, Max 1 per 10E14
Workload Rate Limit (TB/year) 180
Power-On Hours 8760 (24x7)
Mean Time Between Failures (MTBF) (hours) 800K
Limited Warranty (years) 2 3
Power Management
Startup Power (A) 2.0
Operating Mode, Typical (W) 7.5
Idle Average (W) 5.0
Standby Mode (W) <1.0
Sleep Mode (W) <1.0
Environmental
Operating (ambient min °C) 0
Operating (drive case max °C) 60
Nonoperating (ambient °C) -40 to 70
Halogen Free Yes
RoHS Compliance Yes
Top comments
Nexusfifth
22 Mar 164#13
In my case because I have a download speed of at most 250KB/s and there is no optics or anything that I could get (trust me I would if I could) and then it takes 3 days of continuous download to install a GTA V, not to mention it takes up all my bandwidth during that time...
PenguinsForAll
22 Mar 163#39
enjoy your crappy fify '1080p' 1.4gb movies with 2.0 channel sound. streaming is easy to do, but the quality is pure crap compared to a 5-8gb 5.1/7.1 surround. and you never know when streams may become unavailable, some of my favorite tv shows and movies are only available in crappy 480p or worse, where as i have full 720 or 1080 versions safely stored away. the price of storage is verrry cheap these days, especially considering the size of media has remained stagnant for a long time. 4k won't be common until years in the future and by then storage will be even cheaper.
Deal_HUNT3R to metronome
22 Mar 163#26
U WOT M8?
Been using this on Windows 7 at home for almost a year. Media drive.
revolver31
22 Mar 163#20
its always the problem with streaming of any kind, nobody is treated the same, at least with physical media everyone had the same quality and could easily buy it at there local asda/Tesco.
We really need something done with the internet in this country, were behind usa and japan to name only two, bt had to be forced into an upgrade by the government but all it does is extend the exchange out the radius of 1 mile using almost lossless fibre, in essence it puts everyone 1 mile closer to there exchange but the reality is it takes 10 Years+ plus to complete and millions of pounds in cost.
Now try to extend that a further mile and cost and time quadruple that's were most of the homes start to appear, the 1st mile radius is usually around a town so less of those green cabinets but move further out and those boxes grow exponentially.
Thing is it was documented long ago that as soon as point to point fibre lines are down that's it no further upgrades are needed, the fastest speed is by light using fibre the only limitation is the hardware that pushes it out so its just a case of upgrading the exchange equipment.
This is why streaming fails imo the quality of your media service is dependant on where you live, that's just wrong, I'm lucky I'm just outside my local town I will always get the full speed fibre of what's currently available if I wish to buy it (just now 80mb down /20mb up), I sit within 1 mile of my exchange and my phone line is only 5 years old, so my speed is banging, but so many people have little choice and it's unfair that there media experience is dictated by where they live, in there situation its worth downloading overnight on to a hard drive so they can watch/play as it was meant to, the government need to fix this or come up with a new delivery system cause were not using less internet are we? unless this is addressed then streaming is pointless 50gb/100gb game discs try downloading that, then there's movies that get re-encoded and the quality sucked out of them by Netflix and co, now we get 4k discs at 133gb the physical format is ahead of our internet service streaming should be on par with physical media with the potential to overtake it, and it's just not, right now streaming is inferior to physical format for these reasons will they be fixed any time soon ? not likely but it cool as long as Cameron gets to spend 10 billion on his flying bus, boo hoo but he's got one :disappointed: I want one, stomp, stomp.
This is a good price for a drive for htpc/nas best price I saw and I'm waiting for again was 5tb western digital drives at £90 so two of them = 10tb at £180 vs this 8tb at £166 to me the 2x 5tb is better but the deal hasn't been back up also 2 drives vs 1, id like to see these at £150 they'd sell like hot cakes at that price I'd take one even though it's Seagate.
Sorry for the speech but someone had to point out everyone's situation is different.
All comments (65)
oUkTuRkEyIII
22 Mar 16#1
Tempted to get 2 for my steam games :smiley:
paulrwarner to oUkTuRkEyIII
22 Mar 162#11
Why not just delete all the games and let steam hold your account in the cloud then download each game when you want to play it?
Deal_HUNT3R
22 Mar 16#2
I'd hardly call them slow write speeds for a hard drive
gazter to Deal_HUNT3R
22 Mar 16#3
Transfer speeds can drop hugely! Seem to be no issue streaming, but seriously, I saw it drop from 100mbs to 10 to 15mbs
MrPuddington to Deal_HUNT3R
22 Mar 16#16
Obviously the continuous data rate is ok, but random write access will suffer severely because of the shingled recording. Effectively your seek time for writes is increased by at least an order of magnitude, because the disk has to read a whole block of tracks, and then write it again. This takes 10 rotations or more. So if you are writing random 4k blocks, you might get less than 100kb/s write performance.
That being said, together with an SSD for apps and small files it would make a very good combination.
huangxq2 to Deal_HUNT3R
22 Mar 16#29
Slow write speed, it starts ok, but drop significantly after a short while.
Bad bad seller too. Do not risk it.
Deal_HUNT3R
22 Mar 16#4
I have one and its full. Speeds always seemed ok to me.
rev6
22 Mar 16#5
HDD's can do that when transferring a lot of very small files.
simonprr
22 Mar 16#6
great price and performance is fine
CountFilth
22 Mar 16#7
Yeah, I've wondered why that was a few times, I guess they write to the FAT/TOC after every file meaning the head has to move to the start of the disk and out again all the time. Probably Windows handles it really badly too. I noticed recently that Windows 10 still has the old code from Windows 95 to load a driver from a floppy.
iibdii
22 Mar 162#8
I was over the moon when I upgraded my HDD to 20gb quantam fireball
oldguy to iibdii
22 Mar 163#9
I worked in IT for donkeys years and could never understand the compulsion some individuals seem to have for building vast archives of sh*** . No doubt those same people are on their way out to buy a couple of these.
the drives are intended for archive purposes in that you fill the disc with data infrequently, in order to read back infrequently. the way the discs write don't make it very suitable for normal disc use and frequent file changes
Opening post
This is an internal ARCHIVE hard drive. This means it has slow write speeds which is perfect for storing your movies/backups on.
General
Width 101.85mm
Depth 146.99mm
Height 26.11mm
Weight 780g
Compatability PC
Device Type Hard drive - internal
Performance
Cache, Multisegmented (MB) 128
SATA Transfer Rates Supported (Gb/s) 6.0/3.0/1.5
Average Data Rate, Read/Write (MB/s) 150
Max Sustained Data Rate, OD Read (MB/s 190
Configuration/Organization
Heads/Disks 12/6
Sector (Media/Format) 4096/512E
SMR Technology, Drive-Managed Yes
Voltage
Voltage Tolerance, Inc. Noise (5V) ±5%
Voltage Tolerance, Inc. Noise (12V) ±10%
Reliability/Data Integrity
Load/Unload Cycles 300,000
Nonrecoverable Read Errors per Bits Read, Max 1 per 10E14
Workload Rate Limit (TB/year) 180
Power-On Hours 8760 (24x7)
Mean Time Between Failures (MTBF) (hours) 800K
Limited Warranty (years) 2 3
Power Management
Startup Power (A) 2.0
Operating Mode, Typical (W) 7.5
Idle Average (W) 5.0
Standby Mode (W) <1.0
Sleep Mode (W) <1.0
Environmental
Operating (ambient min °C) 0
Operating (drive case max °C) 60
Nonoperating (ambient °C) -40 to 70
Halogen Free Yes
RoHS Compliance Yes
Top comments
Been using this on Windows 7 at home for almost a year. Media drive.
We really need something done with the internet in this country, were behind usa and japan to name only two, bt had to be forced into an upgrade by the government but all it does is extend the exchange out the radius of 1 mile using almost lossless fibre, in essence it puts everyone 1 mile closer to there exchange but the reality is it takes 10 Years+ plus to complete and millions of pounds in cost.
Now try to extend that a further mile and cost and time quadruple that's were most of the homes start to appear, the 1st mile radius is usually around a town so less of those green cabinets but move further out and those boxes grow exponentially.
Thing is it was documented long ago that as soon as point to point fibre lines are down that's it no further upgrades are needed, the fastest speed is by light using fibre the only limitation is the hardware that pushes it out so its just a case of upgrading the exchange equipment.
This is why streaming fails imo the quality of your media service is dependant on where you live, that's just wrong, I'm lucky I'm just outside my local town I will always get the full speed fibre of what's currently available if I wish to buy it (just now 80mb down /20mb up), I sit within 1 mile of my exchange and my phone line is only 5 years old, so my speed is banging, but so many people have little choice and it's unfair that there media experience is dictated by where they live, in there situation its worth downloading overnight on to a hard drive so they can watch/play as it was meant to, the government need to fix this or come up with a new delivery system cause were not using less internet are we? unless this is addressed then streaming is pointless 50gb/100gb game discs try downloading that, then there's movies that get re-encoded and the quality sucked out of them by Netflix and co, now we get 4k discs at 133gb the physical format is ahead of our internet service streaming should be on par with physical media with the potential to overtake it, and it's just not, right now streaming is inferior to physical format for these reasons will they be fixed any time soon ? not likely but it cool as long as Cameron gets to spend 10 billion on his flying bus, boo hoo but he's got one :disappointed: I want one, stomp, stomp.
This is a good price for a drive for htpc/nas best price I saw and I'm waiting for again was 5tb western digital drives at £90 so two of them = 10tb at £180 vs this 8tb at £166 to me the 2x 5tb is better but the deal hasn't been back up also 2 drives vs 1, id like to see these at £150 they'd sell like hot cakes at that price I'd take one even though it's Seagate.
Sorry for the speech but someone had to point out everyone's situation is different.
All comments (65)
That being said, together with an SSD for apps and small files it would make a very good combination.
Bad bad seller too. Do not risk it.
this is why it's slower than normal - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingled_magnetic_recording
the drives are intended for archive purposes in that you fill the disc with data infrequently, in order to read back infrequently. the way the discs write don't make it very suitable for normal disc use and frequent file changes