You're talking rubbish mate. The parkside tools at lidl come with lithium ion batteries (as opposed to that crappy ni-cad battery on the one you posted), and are interchangeable across their other range of tools. As posted above, they also have 3year no hassle warranty.
My father in law bought the 18v version and I was very impressed, although it was a bit on the weighty side. Would be perfect for the DIYer as it will remain charged for when you need it, not like the dogpoo black and decker ni-cad that will be knackered in 3-4 months.
eset12345 to smugjojo
12 Mar 168#8
yeah, lidl are well known across the continent for the quality of goods they sell, and military and intelligence? I take it you can fly fighter jets, captain assault or destroyer type ships, captain a nuclear sub, coordinate wars and protection across the globe with tens of thousands of personnel, even an Army chef in Baghdad uses more intelligence than the likes of you in your 9 till 5 office non job
royals
11 Mar 164#1
The words quality tools and LIDL shouldnt be in the same sentence.
Some of their food is good though, just not enough variety
wirdy
12 Mar 163#19
True, Lidl power tools are not industrial quality, but bang for buck the quality is extremely good & I've fixed stuff from aircraft to tiny printed circuit boards and DIY'd for 30 yrs. Anyone who says different has either never used stuff from lidl, a brand snob or is just talking out of their ####.
I must have six or seven parkside power tools and they have taken use & abuse but keep on going. I'd not rate them as high as Makita or Dewalt, of course, but for instance the Parkside SDS drill that I've just used to channel loads of cable conduit into concrete and cinder block performed brilliantly. Yes, a bit heavier than the competition but I'm not doing these jobs every day of the week to reap the benefits of a more expensive item.
Pay your money & take your choice, but for me decent quality and a 3 yr guarantee is unbeatable.
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louiselouise
13 Mar 16#46
@bonzobanana, I won't pretend to be an expert where Lidl is concerned, I was merely quoting what I've read. If I'm misinformed I'm fine with that - I rather like Lidl. My expectations aren't too high with tools as they are only for light DIY use (though I only have a cheapie Duratool SDS drill from CPC).
I thought Karcher were decent, oh well.
andynicol to louiselouise
13 Mar 16#48
bonzobanana rightly stated that the entry level Karcher machines are crap, high failure rate due to poor quality parts.
They do make decent machines, but there mostly out of the range in which your 'once a month user' would pay.
andynicol
13 Mar 16#47
Nice.
Overkill for the average DIYer though.
bonzobanana
13 Mar 16#45
The issue is you are reversing the reality of the situation. It's expensive to manufacture in Europe and many European brands are buying Chinese designed and manufactured goods and having their brand put on them for their entry level models. Karcher are also pretty crap anyway at the entry level. I'm pretty sure they did a range of pressure washers with a huge failure rate due to low quality part plastic motors. I'll see if I can find the evidence.
Anyway the point is Einhell is an importer of low price chinese power tools that are designed and manufactured in China. If another better brand also buys from the same factory that's not really a glowing reputation and its certainly not a rebadge of a Karcher its the same low end product being sold under the Karcher brand.
Both Panasonic and Bush (Argos) put their brand on Vestel televisions and washing machines but does that make the Bush a rebadged Panasonic? No of course it doesn't. Do Vestel make good washing machines and televisions, yes they appear to be reliable according to reliability surveys and sometimes get glowing reviews but there has also been problematic models that you probably wouldn't encounter anywhere near as much with normal Panasonic designed products that are sold at higher prices which aren't available under the Bush brand.
smugjojo
13 Mar 16#44
:innocent:
championadam
13 Mar 16#43
SOME lidl power tools are fine, but I've recently had a lidl oscillating tool on fire and a router which has virtually fallen apart. not sure if I'd buy power tools from them again...
smugjojo
12 Mar 16#9
You put it so well as with 'coordinate wars'. Now get back in your box.
martyn333 to smugjojo
12 Mar 161#11
now now
eset12345 to smugjojo
12 Mar 16#12
I like the way you choose one aspect of my quote to reply to, just because you don't agree with wars, doesn't mean it doesn't take a massive level of intelligence to pull off every single aspect of it.
Would you mind posting your flight credentials? or the 30+ years of experience and countless masters degrees and training needed to captain a ship, or the qualifications to even be a low ranking ships cook, but yeah, it takes no intelligence to be in the military, you really have no idea.
now go back to your non job on minimum wage pushing a few scraps of paper around an office.
The words quality tools and LIDL shouldnt be in the same sentence.
Some of their food is good though, just not enough variety
brooky to royals
12 Mar 16#14
You just put them in the same sentence - shame on you
bengibbo123 to royals
13 Mar 16#37
I'm guessing you've never tried any of them out? I've bought more than a handful over the last few years and have found them to be similar if not better quality to other big name branded diy grade tools, but often at half the price. Heat added
evostick47
12 Mar 161#36
Great power tools, have some heat! :man:
louiselouise
12 Mar 16#35
Only quoting what I've read on other forums, where Bosch is concerned. I do have a Karcher SC1020 steam cleaner - apparently Lidl sold a Silvercrest version which was a rebadge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4z40mqdahk
You stated something as fact, surely you expected a bite?
Which is why I asked you a leading question inviting you to elaborate.
bonzobanana
12 Mar 16#32
No of course they don't. I had no idea anyone would take my comment seriously. I was just taking the mickey with regards people claiming these obviously basic level Chinese tools are sourced through Bosch. The company that sources these for Lidl and Aldi is Einhell, a german importer of chinese power tools. In fact they even offer support to the Lidl and Aldi brands on their site.
These are low end tools and perfectly acceptable quality and both Lidl and Aldi offer generous warranties. However it just gets a bit stupid when people start stating they are german made or sourced through Bosch or other ridiculous quality claims. My experience is they are a bit hit and miss with regard spec and pricing. I have more issues with the food quality than the tools though.
alan mcculloch
12 Mar 16#31
Parkside (Lidl) tools are not intended for trade use.I have a sander and a jigsaw from Lidl bought years ago probably onty had a few hours use each.Why pay more?
andynicol
12 Mar 16#30
I'd be interested on that one too.
Festool manufacture tools for B&Q and disguise them as low price tools?
andynicol
12 Mar 16#29
11.85Nm v 25NM
Ni-Cd v Lithium-Ion
2 yr v 3yrs warranty
Fail.
scoobytawazara
12 Mar 16#28
what specific B&q tools are made by festool and how do you know? thanks
den169
12 Mar 16#27
Lidl tools are excellent quality,Some tools think different of course.
bonzobanana
12 Mar 16#26
As you know they aren't. Just your typical Lidl nutjob poster. The sharpener and bench grinder are pretty generic chinese products that are seen under many other cheap brands. The drill I've not seen before. Nicely styled though but looks to have a low battery capacity probably around 1.2-1.5Ah. No hammer mode and a sort of in-between 16V rating.
Nothing wrong with them I bet though just entry level quality. Sadly many Bosch products are now sourced from fairly low quality chinese factories anyway. I'd recommend B&Q their drills are actually made by Festool but put into new cases to resemble low price Chinese power tools.
spilmilk
12 Mar 16#25
loool quality. compared to rolson yes quality. but it isn't quite snap on haha.
huddsguy
12 Mar 16#24
Quality?? Hmm I beg to differ
smugjojo
12 Mar 161#7
Quality and Lidl do not go together. A bit like Military and Intelligence.
eset12345 to smugjojo
12 Mar 168#8
yeah, lidl are well known across the continent for the quality of goods they sell, and military and intelligence? I take it you can fly fighter jets, captain assault or destroyer type ships, captain a nuclear sub, coordinate wars and protection across the globe with tens of thousands of personnel, even an Army chef in Baghdad uses more intelligence than the likes of you in your 9 till 5 office non job
shamus1975 to smugjojo
12 Mar 16#23
have some respect.
bluenosebignelly
12 Mar 16#22
Any opinions on the batteries? Looks like a pretty good deal to me but do they perform/last?
wardinoh
12 Mar 16#21
Great deal
229mel
12 Mar 16#20
what a load of bull, lidl tools are of decent quality ,obviously I will choose my makita/bosch tools over them but they provide really really good value for money.
wirdy
12 Mar 163#19
True, Lidl power tools are not industrial quality, but bang for buck the quality is extremely good & I've fixed stuff from aircraft to tiny printed circuit boards and DIY'd for 30 yrs. Anyone who says different has either never used stuff from lidl, a brand snob or is just talking out of their ####.
I must have six or seven parkside power tools and they have taken use & abuse but keep on going. I'd not rate them as high as Makita or Dewalt, of course, but for instance the Parkside SDS drill that I've just used to channel loads of cable conduit into concrete and cinder block performed brilliantly. Yes, a bit heavier than the competition but I'm not doing these jobs every day of the week to reap the benefits of a more expensive item.
Pay your money & take your choice, but for me decent quality and a 3 yr guarantee is unbeatable.
RealDash
12 Mar 16#18
Only decent deal there IMO is the drill, but I cant/wont buy a drill with only 10mm chuck...
sam01792
12 Mar 162#16
Most Lidl tools are Bosch parts in a new casing. Very good value for money!
money-talks to sam01792
12 Mar 16#17
Really, and the proof behind that is from where?
echelon_101
12 Mar 161#15
Expensive wall plugs.
kazerland
12 Mar 162#10
Lidl tools are very good build quality tools
CrazyBob
12 Mar 162#6
Fail :confused:
wheelbo
12 Mar 16#5
Just noticed the poor torque on the B+D drill too, only one gear and the 8-10 hour charge time!
wheelbo
12 Mar 1611#4
You're talking rubbish mate. The parkside tools at lidl come with lithium ion batteries (as opposed to that crappy ni-cad battery on the one you posted), and are interchangeable across their other range of tools. As posted above, they also have 3year no hassle warranty.
My father in law bought the 18v version and I was very impressed, although it was a bit on the weighty side. Would be perfect for the DIYer as it will remain charged for when you need it, not like the dogpoo black and decker ni-cad that will be knackered in 3-4 months.
rudey
12 Mar 162#3
the great think with lidl products... the 3 YEAR guarantee (which they honor very well)
an extra tenner gets you an 18v, better quality drill. I suppose though you could wait a couple of weeks and they'll drop the price of these "quality tools"
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My father in law bought the 18v version and I was very impressed, although it was a bit on the weighty side. Would be perfect for the DIYer as it will remain charged for when you need it, not like the dogpoo black and decker ni-cad that will be knackered in 3-4 months.
Some of their food is good though, just not enough variety
I must have six or seven parkside power tools and they have taken use & abuse but keep on going. I'd not rate them as high as Makita or Dewalt, of course, but for instance the Parkside SDS drill that I've just used to channel loads of cable conduit into concrete and cinder block performed brilliantly. Yes, a bit heavier than the competition but I'm not doing these jobs every day of the week to reap the benefits of a more expensive item.
Pay your money & take your choice, but for me decent quality and a 3 yr guarantee is unbeatable.
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I thought Karcher were decent, oh well.
They do make decent machines, but there mostly out of the range in which your 'once a month user' would pay.
Overkill for the average DIYer though.
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/archive/index.php/t-178883.html
Anyway the point is Einhell is an importer of low price chinese power tools that are designed and manufactured in China. If another better brand also buys from the same factory that's not really a glowing reputation and its certainly not a rebadge of a Karcher its the same low end product being sold under the Karcher brand.
Both Panasonic and Bush (Argos) put their brand on Vestel televisions and washing machines but does that make the Bush a rebadged Panasonic? No of course it doesn't. Do Vestel make good washing machines and televisions, yes they appear to be reliable according to reliability surveys and sometimes get glowing reviews but there has also been problematic models that you probably wouldn't encounter anywhere near as much with normal Panasonic designed products that are sold at higher prices which aren't available under the Bush brand.
Would you mind posting your flight credentials? or the 30+ years of experience and countless masters degrees and training needed to captain a ship, or the qualifications to even be a low ranking ships cook, but yeah, it takes no intelligence to be in the military, you really have no idea.
now go back to your non job on minimum wage pushing a few scraps of paper around an office.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/quality-tools-lidl-2411591?p=27558601
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/quality-tools-lidl-2411591?p=27560209
http://www.tradecounterdirect.com/product/milwaukee-m18fpd-502x-fuel-2-percussion-drill-m18-2-x-50ah_m18fpd-502x.html?gclid=CIXjlJyXvcsCFckV0wod_tAFSg
Some of their food is good though, just not enough variety
Mentioned here as well http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/karcher-sc1020-steam-cleaner-was-130-now-65-tesco-857264?p=10433408
You stated something as fact, surely you expected a bite?
Which is why I asked you a leading question inviting you to elaborate.
http://www.einhelltools.co.uk/cmspage.php?page_id=65
These are low end tools and perfectly acceptable quality and both Lidl and Aldi offer generous warranties. However it just gets a bit stupid when people start stating they are german made or sourced through Bosch or other ridiculous quality claims. My experience is they are a bit hit and miss with regard spec and pricing. I have more issues with the food quality than the tools though.
Festool manufacture tools for B&Q and disguise them as low price tools?
Ni-Cd v Lithium-Ion
2 yr v 3yrs warranty
Fail.
Nothing wrong with them I bet though just entry level quality. Sadly many Bosch products are now sourced from fairly low quality chinese factories anyway. I'd recommend B&Q their drills are actually made by Festool but put into new cases to resemble low price Chinese power tools.
I must have six or seven parkside power tools and they have taken use & abuse but keep on going. I'd not rate them as high as Makita or Dewalt, of course, but for instance the Parkside SDS drill that I've just used to channel loads of cable conduit into concrete and cinder block performed brilliantly. Yes, a bit heavier than the competition but I'm not doing these jobs every day of the week to reap the benefits of a more expensive item.
Pay your money & take your choice, but for me decent quality and a 3 yr guarantee is unbeatable.
My father in law bought the 18v version and I was very impressed, although it was a bit on the weighty side. Would be perfect for the DIYer as it will remain charged for when you need it, not like the dogpoo black and decker ni-cad that will be knackered in 3-4 months.
an extra tenner gets you an 18v, better quality drill. I suppose though you could wait a couple of weeks and they'll drop the price of these "quality tools"