Not a comment on the machine, but I wondered about the "benefits" of higher spin speeds, thinking 1200 was slow these days so I looked it up, stumbled across this :http://www.whitegoodshelp.co.uk/washing-machine-spin-speed-efficiency/, seems as usual there is a con /bs with higher speeds. Worth a quick read.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lg-fh4u2vcn2-washing-machine-white-was-549-99-now-399-99-with-code-instant50-currys-2402409

^^ I bought her a couple of weeks ago. In fairness, she is twice the price @ £399. But she is a 9kg, 1400rpm, A+++ with 5 year warranty. 10 year warranty on her direct drive motor. She is quiet, beautiful and supreme in every way. I love her.

That's a really crap article. It assumes the ONLY reason to buy a higher RPM machine is because it saves you money in the long run. Seriously, I've never known a single person who factors that into the equation.

People buy a higher RPM machine because it's faster to dry things. The faster spin means more water is removed, which means it drys faster. If you have kids running around and need things washing regularly, or you work long hours and only get the weekend to do washing, then over the day, it makes a huge difference.

It also uses the results from a 6kg washer (which is quite small), and is an 8 year old article. This is an issue because since 2014, washing machines must be rated A or above (A+++). Some older models might still be kicking about in shops though, as it wasn't made illegal to sell them.

The article also makes more silly claims to try and bolster their point:

Stable washing machines? LOL. Yes, okay. I guess if you live on a boat or an airplane then how "stable" it is might be important. For the rest of us, adjusting the legs properly and placing it on a flat surface will do.

As for lasting longer because of being slower....Rightttt.....Because the parts wouldn't have been up-rated to handle the load, like every other mechanical device that is built by someone with a brain. It's like claiming a 1 liter Corsa engine will outlive an 1.8 Honda VTEC because 1 liter is less.

Quite simply, people normally buy a higher RPM washer for speed, not for saving money.

Had so many issues with my last beko washing machine. it broke down 7 times in its first year, and finally Beko decided to write it off and i got a replacement, with a different make, from currys. Never again would i buy a Beko washing machine.

Have had a Beko washing machine for 6 years now and for the first year of it's life it was used at least 21 times a week. My mums house was being renovated and they washed their clothes at ours. 7 people 3 of whom were babies plus our 6, of whom 4 were babies. Spectacular washing machine not a glitch ever and we still use it at least 7 times a week.

How do you price match??

Although we now have 2 machines as the Panasonic is fixed we're attracted more to the Beko, as the wash is far superior than the Panasonic, but with 4 children Panasonic will not be made redundant just yet :innocent:

I've been using this Beko washing machine for a week and I must say that so far I am very pleased with the wash results and overall performance. The freedom to adjust the spin speed,temperature settings and delayed time are super additions which were not available on my Bosch washing machine.Also the time remaining display is very handy. I am mainly using the Daily Quick wash programme set at 1200 spin speed/40 degree wash. Takes 50 minutes on a full 9kg load. I have also found that if I select Spin and Drain after the main wash it makes the washing come out of the machine a lot dryer, it just adds an extra 5 minutes to the whole wash, ideal if your drying washing inside on clothes airers. Don't forget to register your new Beko washing machine online.

Googled my U11 error code http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/fault-codes/laundry-fault-codes/3328-panasonic-na-series-washing-machine-fault-codes as it would not drain. Cleaned out the filter etc and still no joy so called Panasonic as I also have the 6 year warranty. Woman asked if I had done a 'Service Wash' on it. The service wash is basically put it on cotton setting and then run with no clothes or detergent at 90 deg C. Told her a little white lie and said of course I had, as I wanted it booked in. Got home tonight and did the service wash and its working again, for now....
Reall like the Beko equipment, was going to buy their Heat Pump Tumble Dryer. Washing machine sounds good too.

Lol. Engineer just left..new pulley fitted, last one was bearing s which right it off..

Same model as ours, did you get the 6yr warranty too?

Engineer said the Beko will outlive the Panasonic even with a 6 year warranty, lol...he doesn't rate the Panasonic at all (vistel, Turkey) was mentioned..

Beko does a far better wash although the Panasonic is very quite on a normal wash beko has a little motor groan...

Shame as he could of told you the code while he was here..he said our code was u13 which was something to do with draining? But could of been the pulley which set it off?...

Lol, that's funny, tbh there all the same..

I have bought this machine because my top of the range Panasonic VX bought from John Lewis with a 6 yr warranty has failed, been waiting 3 weeks for a part we have 4 children and this delay is unacceptable,hence why I bought this machine to tie us over(you soon get sick of washing clothes in a bowl) they rang me the day this was delivered (unbelievable) but cannot come out till next Thursday to fit it...

There all the same mate there not interested whoever you deal with, you don't get a better combo than Panasonic and John Lewis..but there still useless

how do i get JL to price match?

out of stock now..

Btw, this Beko is pretty awesome ok it's not a touch on our £500 pani but at least it's running :smile: Tbh I don't think anyone who bought this will be disappointed for the money.

Yeah, we wanna know, we all just bought one:D

coop customer service has just been pants after breakdown issue.

6 month old fridge freezer broke down. Had to wait over a week for engineer to come out. Engineer advised that fridge freezer had caught fire (protective seal had not been fitted when manufactured so moisture had gotten into the control panel and set it in fire).

Been told its going to at least another 1 to 2 weeks to either get a replacement part or a replacement (what I've argued for).

Coop and Hotpoint arguing amongst themselves on who should do it.

As far as I know under consumer law its up to coop as its under 12 months old.

However they are just stating that they need to wait for each party to do a particular thing.

So been constantly promised by Coop that someone will phone be back at a particular time (never happens). maybe I'm to naive to expect that when someone promises to ring you back they will.

It just become very annoying and expensive to be without a fridge freezer for so long

rant over

I bought this machine through John Lewis after confirming they would price match at £199.99, it's due for delivery on Thursday. The reviews for this machine and other similar Beko machines are positive, although to be expected there aren't as many reviews as you'd find for better known makes. Beko wouldn't have been my brand of choice but the value is amazing so this is a great deal.

I bought this machine through John Lewis after confirming they would price match at £199.99, it's due for delivery on Thursday. The reviews for this machine and other similar Beko machines are positive, although to be expected there aren't as many reviews as you'd find for better known makes. Beko wouldn't have been my brand of choice but the value is amazing so this is a great deal.

not to impressed with co op's customer service.

in fact its been pants.

defo wouldn't recommend.

I would advise getting it elsewhere. (delivery was good but if you have an issue with the appliance the customer service is pants and very very slow)

Hot deal. Purchased. Hope my Mum likes it. our indesit washer/dryer lasted 2.5 years only n spent £400. Wonder what I can do with it as the belt has fallen off. any suggestions anyone?

Does this machine have a dryer too? I'm looking for a washing machine with a dryer

Fantastic combined price and running cost deal
Over 8 years = purchase price plus 8 year running cost at 6 cycle a week, = £488

Or Beko WR852421 8.0kg Capacity @£220
Over 8 years = purchase price plus 8 year running cost at 6 cycle a week, = £504

Or Best Bosh
Bosch WAQ283S1GB 8.0kg Capacity Washing Machine @ £370
Over 8 years = purchase price plus 8 year running cost at 6 cycle a week, = £678

Sorry I'm very sad, currently looking at new utility and kitchen - by carefully selecting the appliances we will save thousands over 8 years

Look here

Cannot advise on the quality of the item :disappointed:

Hot Hot Hot

Good deal if you don't mind a Beko. Just under £270 for 3 years warranty and delivery

High spin speed does have its uses.
I wear 3 layers of thin fleeces at work as its a chilled environment and I change them every day
Old Zanussi washer - (now faulty) had 1600 spin which left them almost dry and you could wear them after an hour outside.
Other half has just bought a Beko washer with 1200 rpm spin to replace the old washer but it only has 1200 spin and my work fleeces come out very damp now

Bought a Beko Dishwasher a couple of years ago, major rust started a few months after the 2 year warranty ran out. Beko were totally uninterested to the point of being rude. They don't agree that a dishwasher should last longer than 2 years! Learnt our lesson, will never buy another Beko product, they are a bit cheaper for a reason!

Spin speed is spin Speed, that doesnt change with age. Don't get sucked in.

not sure why you would spin clothes at more than 800 rpm, they will go out chewed as fark, I don't iron so really 1600rpm is no use for me

John Lewis entry model own brand washing machine has never skipped a beat, in daily use for over 8 years for me, still runs like new. I'll be straight down there to get another one when it fails

Unbelievable that washing machines are almost becoming disposable items!

I've often mused about the usefulness of quoted spin speeds, surely the diameter of the drum should be given as well because surely the actual speed of the drum at its periphery will be greater the larger it is?

Used to had an old Hoover washer until last year. Now have zanussi. was very surprised to see that most of washing modes are 3-4 hours long. The longest mode on the old was about 2-2.5 hours. I use 'quick wash' option so it is about 1h 45min. but it is still too long.

Pretty sure you've been drawn in to an argument with someone who's pretending to be from the article Whitegoodshelp and just created a user of the same name to make up some more rubbish purely for this thread.

I believe they call it trolling. :man:

10% cashback at Quidco at AO

Got this machine from AO a year ago. It's been fantastic so far and no signs of any problems yet...

My 8kg version of this lasted 1year 3 months before the electronic brushless motor died £160 for a new motor.
Took a lot of phone calls to get a part refund back under sale of goods.

HEAT!

Also on AO .com at £1 more for anyone that like shopping there ;-)

http://ao.com/product/wmb91243lw-beko-washing-machine-white-36336-1.aspx

I use a Beko Washer, it's about 3 year old, I won't be buying another one, money was tight at the time so needs must and all that. I would say if there's not many using the washing machine, one of these cheap washers would be fine.

My next washer I'll be investing a good £400+ for an LG direct drive washer.

What is the 14min quick wash like? Most of my stuff is just T-shirts / shorts with little wear, and the shortest cycle we have on ours is the best part of an hour, which seems excessive.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lg-fh4u2vcn2-washing-machine-white-was-549-99-now-399-99-with-code-instant50-currys-2402409

^^ I bought her a couple of weeks ago. In fairness, she is twice the price @ £399. But she is a 9kg, 1400rpm, A+++ with 5 year warranty. 10 year warranty on her direct drive motor. She is quiet, beautiful and supreme in every way. I love her.

don't get hung up on brand names, cost, warranty and performance are what you should think about. If it performs great then it's always a gamble on how long machines last so warranty is your next consideration.

Had my Beko washing machine for nearly 2 years and haven't had any bother with it. Nor my Beko oven, tumble drier or dishwasher. Maybe just been lucky but so far they've been brilliant. My washing machine looks almost identical to this except it goes to 1400rpm. I usually leave it at the default 1200 anyway so not a deal breaker.

I have a very similar machine, 7kg 1500 rpm from AO.com. Great machine, the 28mim daily wash is a life saver

I was the under the impression that Beko washing machines came with 2 years warranty as standard? Ours certainly did.

Edit: just checked and it's the built in ones that come with 2 years warranty. Thought I wasn't going mad lol.

No, I haven't just skimmed it. It's incredibly poor and offers very little real world applicable advice. The article even says that the stats are directly lifted out of a manual:


There is nothing to verify this against. It doesn't even say which manual it's from.

That to one side, you're not even addressing a single one of my points. Not only that, the claims you're making are simply nonsense. For example:

This just isn't true. I've replaced several machine drums over the years. The part numbers between different RPM drums are different, along with the suspension and bearings. Go and read the service manuals for a Bosch washing machine: The bearings are rated for different RPM drums, along with many of the other parts. The quality of these items is normally related to the brand and which parts they have used.
To claim that there is "no difference whatsoever in quality" is nonsense.


ALL washing machines can fail, like any mechanical device. If higher RPM ones were "EXPLODING" regularly when spinning, do you really think they would be sold?
You provide no evidence at all about higher RPM machines lasting less time. Some of the best selling machines on the market are higher RPM ones and have a low failure rate as can be seen on online reviews.

Present some evidence to these claims.


"May not" is a great cop out to something that provides little more than ramblings without any evidence. It also works with the opposite to though:

A higher RPM washing machine may last longer. It may also be more reliable.

We're not living in the 80's. All the information and ratings for things like bearings are available online. Stop lying and telling people that there is "no difference whatsoever in quality" and other such unproven claims.

If the article simply stated the costs of a higher RPM, against the electricity saving - awesome. That's fine. But it's not. It's trying to claim people buy higher RPM because of saving money (most don't - it's a time thing), with all sorts of other nonsense thrown in there with no evidence.

Is it better than the Samsung ecobubble machine which was posted a few days ago?

Sadly it seems you've only scanned the article before dismissing it. The article doesn't assume anything, it's very balanced and only trying to give useful information. There is no difference whatsoever in quality between a washing machine spinning at 1200 and one spinning at 1600 or 1800, that's one of the problems. The extra fast spinning ones just aren't up to it and don't last very long at all - some are even exploding on spin. The only point of the article is to say - hey, don't get obsessed with spin speeds and get sucked into paying a lot more for one that may not be as reliable, is nosier and may not last as long.

I have had mine for 3 year but it has different spin speeds up to 1600 best machine I have had do recommend it

John Lewis sell this model with a 2 year warranty for £249 so a possible price match?

Not a comment on the machine, but I wondered about the "benefits" of higher spin speeds, thinking 1200 was slow these days so I looked it up, stumbled across this :http://www.whitegoodshelp.co.uk/washing-machine-spin-speed-efficiency/, seems as usual there is a con /bs with higher speeds. Worth a quick read.

Cracking price.I have had Beko for 5 years no problem at all.
Would definetaly recommend to those who need
Heath added

Had so many issues with my last beko washing machine. it broke down 7 times in its first year, and finally Beko decided to write it off and i got a replacement, with a different make, from currys. Never again would i buy a Beko washing machine.

Cracking price. Even if it only lasts two to three years. Just chuck it away at the price

shame its only got a 1200 spin function. was looking for something with 1400 or ideally 1600.

They also Connect your new washing machine for £19.99 and Removal of your old disconnected appliance for £14.99! I also read the 'delivery and service' what relevance does that have to my point?

Flaviafishcake:

Co op Electrical sell this model with an Optional 3 Year Washing Machine Warranty for £258.44 or for £297.19 with a five year one as well as the £199.99 with the standard guarentee,

Their free delivery service is good as well, you book a day which suits you online and you are told whether you'll get morning or afternoon delivery, I bought a fridge freezer from them recently; excellent service - would definitely recommend

2.1% TCB

interesting, thanks

Good price for 9 kg.

Should have gone for this one instead of the Sammy Ecobubble for £400+ quid. I dont see much difference except for the high speed of 1600 rpm which takes water off the clothes well.

Any working Voucher Codes?

good find op, heat added

that's true and energy rating a+++