Ha ha, in your face Microsoft!


Oh....

Sony are taking the ****. I didn't buy a PS4 to play indie crap. GWG is embarrassing PS+. I'm not renewing my sub. Just give us Killzone and Knack. PS+ is a rip off. I'm selling my PS4. Some people are so entitled. Indie =/= bad. Some people would moan if they gave us The Devision and SF5. It's less than a pint a month.

I think I have covered most comments from both sides.

Happy for Zombi. Overall I'm a tad disappointed if I'm honest. Although, this has been rumoured for May I believe.

Disclaimer:That may, or may not be true.

I HAVE OPINIONS ON THIS

Good line up - am pleased - Zombi was on my wanted list and so was I am Alive which while short is a good game a little like Last of Us.

Ha ha, in your face Microsoft!


Oh....

this might of been OK if not for Microsofts GWG april lineup., but if you dont have zombi i would say its worth it, the rest look pretty poor as usual but you are still get something for next to nothing

Really?

Happy for Zombi. Overall I'm a tad disappointed if I'm honest. Although, this has been rumoured for May I believe.

Disclaimer:That may, or may not be true.

Eh, Zombi is decent and something I've wanted to play.

In before somebody says "sense of entitlement"...

you hold out hope, only to be disappointed...

Knack isn't even that good...GWG wins this month easily and probably next month too.

Oh look another retail title for PS4. People won't care and will still moan.

Zombi not the worst free game, but you just can't help but compare with the GWG lineup, especially considering Xbox owners get the 360 games as well. Mind you, I wouldn't be screaming for those PS3 titles.

I still own and use my 360, I might just have to renew my gold briefly and stack some of these Xbox One titles, y'know, just in case I ever buy a One...

its been rumored more or less every month since it got released at this point i expect a newer AAA title to be on plus before it

PS4 downloads are killing me. Zombi is 20.7GB and I just started a 18gb Witcher3 update.

Delighted with Zombi. The best month in ages for me. If they sorted out the ps3 games working like 360 do on GWG that would be a really good month, I still have a ps3 it would just be nice for instead of churning out remakes we could play the originals but that's another discussion for another time. Keep hoping for WRC 4 on the Vita, I don't know why as it rather random and rather unlikely.

Zombi is repetitive. Bought this game on steam for a few dollars

Bit better than last few months not bothered about Dead Star or Savage Moon but others look fun. I played Zombie on Wii U it's pretty hard

I HAVE OPINIONS ON THIS

Really disappointed with this... PlayStation is really letting us down.

Darn it just bought Zombi, im gonna stop buying games :neutral_face:

Sony are taking the ****. I didn't buy a PS4 to play indie crap. GWG is embarrassing PS+. I'm not renewing my sub. Just give us Killzone and Knack. PS+ is a rip off. I'm selling my PS4. Some people are so entitled. Indie =/= bad. Some people would moan if they gave us The Devision and SF5. It's less than a pint a month.

I think I have covered most comments from both sides.

i knew it... you finally got the AAA game you have so desperately wanted and it still isnt good enough.

people are just hard to please no matter what happens. thats why sony cant take reactions seriously. opinions are all over the place. the line up is good. 1 AAA and 1 BRAND NEW game that releases with ps+. instead of waiting for ps+ to give you a game just buy it and support the developer. if you dont own a game you really wanted then i doubt you wanted it at all.

knack only costs £5 on the store, buy it if you want it so badly people :neutral_face:

Nah, Killzone: Shadowfall and Octodad. My cousins, mums, uncles dog is an admin at Sony :sunglasses:

Dead Star is meh incarnate, but Zombi is nice for a change.

What a load of old shi-ite.

You fail me again, Sony.

Pleased with Zombi, but otherwise Microsoft have smashed it with the April offerings.

Can't believe this... Look at gwg and look at this.

Nice i was gonna buy Zombi once i finish some of my backlog

I Am Alive was included because Sony messed up the NA PS+ release last month so they put it in this month so those people (that got in early to get both IAA and Super Stardust) don't end up with an extra game. :smirk:

Zombi looked good on the WiiU so will play that. Not sure on the rest, better to expect average-to-poor quality PS+ games now so you're not left wanting better.

Same can be said about Microsoft, but they delivered this month.

Heat for the bravery in posting :stuck_out_tongue:
TBH, I'm not that bothered that the games aren't AAA because I've discovered a few gems through PS Plus that I might not have otherwise tried.
MS do have a good month this April but they need to be better than Sony in many ways to close the console sales gap.
Call Sony lazy if you like but if it bothers you that much, sell your PS4 and get an XB1... Or better still, get both :stuck_out_tongue:

PS+ just seems to have games I have never heard of before these days.

Interesting, but crap.

yes but you only need an xbox one, to get six games for plus you need a ps3,ps4 and a vita which most people don't have, i do but most don't so for most people their post is a bit pointless

Most people are more concerned with comparing the 2 offerings of MS and Sony. Just play the games or don't play the games. Some of the indie titles are really good and I'd much prefer something I don't own already than Killzone, Black Flag or Watch Dogs for example so I can at least make my own mind up about it.

GWG has had a few decent months and in particular April but if you compare the games over a period of time it's pretty similar really. The games people are hoping for don't cost more than a tenner, if you want them that bad it isn't a huge expense

​Four games with GWG /pedant

The Microsoft offering is good this month and has been better but reading some of the comments you would believe Microsoft are giving away actual Gold... the offerings are better than this... agreed but hardly the amazing AAA titles I am being led to believe from comments.

Every month now it's games that were on sale not long ago... I knew ZOMBI would be on plus this month. Black Flag or Rogue next month. Or RIDE or Alien Isolation. It's just obvious now, just look for games that were in sale all time then when they get to the cheapest point that's when they will be on plus soon.

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my mistake, but my point is still valid that most people wont get 6 games

Booooo!!!

Was hoping for the division :laughing:

​don't get my hopes up

Reason 28338839284739384739

Why I cancelled my PS+ since 2015.

Such a bargain, I'd get Zombi for £3 on its own if it was that price.

I'm personally quite happy with the line-up this month.. :smiley:

can we download these now, or only from April 1st?

Bought zombi when it was on sale and it is complete and utter garbage

Both the Vita games look good for the 16 of us that have Vitas

So glad I didnt buy Zombi when it came out, looking forward to this.

I bought I Am Alive in a steam sale quite a while back, not bad that its free but its a pretty dull game. You will get sick of seeing the colour grey. Havnt played the other games Zombi might be fun

Rumoured for May: Dark Souls 3, Mass Effect Andromeda, Bioshock 4 and Pong HD

Deadstar looks good, but otherwise nothing there this month for me or my children, and we've got xbox too. Thanks for share OP.

Littered with triple A titles as ever :smirk:

Would it really hurt them to thrown in an Order 1886 or something similar?

Another month I'm happy not having renewed by PS+ sub yet...

I'm backed up on PSN until 2018 and own all three consoles. Can see myself downloading the PS4 games only this month and even they look average.
Worst timing ever for a poor month with GWG being so strong this month! Xbone it is this month then...

I bought zombi =? Very glitchy game I have to say

I am alive might as well be free for everyone, it's absolutely awful...

Bah, I remember when subscribing to Xbox live only got you purely online play, and PSN was free for inline, none of these free games malarkey. There was never any arguing either which was a better service either... :stuck_out_tongue:

It's 30 odd a year, and at this rate i'm lucky if I download one or two games a year (Not into the indie). I don't buy it for online play, I buy it for the games. Not great value at the moment.

dammit, bought zombi when it went to £7.49, it's not bad, kills a few hours but nothing amazing.

top kek

Finally, decent retail game on PS+. Onwards and upwards eh? :wink:

As for all those praising GWG, remember that Microsoft aren't doing this out of the kindness of their heart, but because they need to right now. And GWG wouldn't even exist if Sony hadn't introduced PS+ in the first place.

Utter Trash!!

GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE'S

SONY , PULL YA SOCKS UP WILL YA.

A total insult , I know the XBONE is lacking compared with a PS4 , But give us a Break with the old TAT

Another month of saved hard drive space for me.

, hey i agree and mentioned elsewhere MS only started GWG becasue of the poor sales for the xbox one, same reason why sony gave us plus to get sales. do think if they had dominated last gen like this we would of seen plus at all?

Good to see a retail game. Still doesn't blow me away though. I know it's popular to rag on Sony for their PS+ offerings but there must be a reason everyone does it each month.

Oh **** I only just paid 6 quid 2 weeks ago for ZOMBI haha that will teach me lol

I don't recall the last time I played a free ps+ game. They've been really disappointing for a long time.

I can see Sony adding The Uncharted Collection in May

I do agree that PS Plus doesn't have as much value as it did before PS4 was released and I do think the games should be a little more generous considering we are paying to play online now too! There is another way of looking at it though. The way I see it, indie games and PSN games have way more value than AAA titles.

For example GTA 5 and Fifa 16, got them for £30 and £25 last year brand new and they still sell for that on ebay for used copies so I've made £0 loss, whereas if I just spent say £8 on a PSN game then I'll never be able to recoup that so I'm £8 down which is why it's better to have them thrown into PS Plus.

PS+ sucks... and almost certainly spits.

Quality, very nearly bought zombi good month all round for Sony and Microsoft!

Another month, another reason not to renew my PS+ subscription, kinda happy really as the next few games i plan to buy (Uncharted 4/ No Mans Sky/ Mirrors Edge and Deus Ex MD) are all single player focused games. Its not like i need the MP subscription yet.

Playstation Plus has given us 382 games since it started in 2010. Games with Gold 110 since 2013. That's 74% more games factoring in the time difference. Just saying.

Someone needs to understand what a AAA is, because it ain't Zombi.

Personally I'd take a reduced cost sub with no games, as that side of Plus is getting to be a real waste of time.

bought zombi last month.getting better but no way as good as gwg

I'm a very open minded gamer and have enjoyed some real quirky titles that plus has supplied that not many people will have played but I have to say I'm just massively disappointed in these Vita and PS4 games. complete rubbish. frustrating.

Yawn... some more indie games that no one wants to play!

this is getting very poor now from sony, microsoft upping there game big time. I had I am alive on gold about 2 years ago on xbox 360!

Clever sneeky bar stewards eh must of wasted over £20 now on games I thought hey cheap good game and then boom Hotuk tells me its free :sunglasses:

Good line-up, not played any of these games, so yeah thumbs up!

weird for a business to do this isnt it :man:

The only month i jump ship from ps4 and buy an xbox one after seeing month after month of AAA GAMES ps plus finally puts out a half decent game. Jesus!

I'll judge the month once I play the ps4 games. Last month I enjoyed Broforce and previous month HELLDIVERS, overall it's been ok 2016 on ps plus.

Played all the exclusives on ps4 i wanted. Currently got both. Will get rid of ps4 after uncharted 4.

I can't understand why some people knock PS+. Over the last two years or so, for the cost of two retail games, I have managed to get 75+ superb titles spread across my PS3, PS4 and Vita. For me, PS+ is a no-brainer and a complete bargain. Even if there are a couple of duff months in every yearly subscription, I still have 30 or so titles left to look forward to for the rest of the year.

Just my $0.02. Peace.

Heat!

having both an xbox and ps4 it really bothers me how some people love to take sides' we need competition sony has the upper hand atm hence why they are not trying as hard it's just a natural ebb and flow.

Got 3 months of PS plus when I bought my PS4. The free games like rocket league, Lara croft and Xeodrifter where all worth a play but I still could not be bothered to renew. Just bought PS 20th anniversary steelbook but might wait until next month to renew.

Whether or not a game is 'good' is entirely a matter of opinion. The numbers are not.

​Seriously, jokes about Knack and Killzone coming to PS Plus are so much more tedious than the actual comments from people who want them to be included on PS plus.

​No I didn't, I was just pre-empting some of the comments. I would generally be a PS+ apologist, some of the indie games have been ace imo.

when we leave the EU will the games get any better on ps plus ?

VOTE OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well it is better than the last few offerings.
Thankful for small mercies.

What a load of balls. Bitterly disappointed with the PS+ offerings. Even if at times GWG might be bad if the XBL sub ends you still keep the GWG games unlike PS+... daylight robbery from Sony! Where's the half decent titles, they are pushing too much Indie stuff!

Was in two minds if to continue my subscription. Wish I hadn't...

Only on the Internet do you get a £14.99 title for your monthly fee of £3 or so and people still whine.

That's not counting the other 5 games. Most of the "gamers" these days wouldn't know a good game if it ran them over.

Just because it's Indie, doesn't mean it's bad.

Maybe stating the obvious but it's a joke still.

PS+ did give plenty of quality on PS3 though ...... proper triple A like Far Cry 3 and perhaps 2 and all thinking about it, AC3, Uncharted 3 when it was still newish, Just Cause and Hitman off the top of my nut. Then from when the PS4's launch was announced at 'Mattrick's E3' it became a big steaming log floating in the khazi instantly and has been pants ever since on all three PS platforms.

GWG on the other hand started out a bit monkey but has dished out some pretty decent stuff in more recent times, I suppose people pointing out they've had to because the Xbone has struggled are making a valid point but that can be countered by saying all the more reason Sony should reward their millions more subs with more decent titles.

I still don't get why you'd want to ditch either console when you've got them both, Xbone has more proper games than PS4 at the moment granted but you got Horizon, Last Guardian and Uncharted coming/almost here?

You'll end up regretting getting rid of one and holding on the other whatever way round you do it so easiest thing to do is keep the two

I think games with plus is better than playstation gold but not as good as the PC Mister race because grayficks.

oh and i also dont know why some people want killzone. i had it since launch and never ever touched it again after playing an hour of it. Its the most boring and uninspiring shooter I have ever tried.

the best plus game for me to date has been rocket league. As indie games go it's one of the best.

I don't expect aaa titles from Sony and as for knack and ppl dying to get it for free, it's actually pretty ****. I got it for about £7 on ebay and wished I hadn't bothered so when the time comes that it's free you're all going to moan about it being a crappy month anyway.

you should all be grateful we get free games. at the end of the day you're paying to play online. and ps+ has been handing out these free games way before gwg so I don't know why ppl are hating Sony.

That's part of the beauty of PS+ for me.

Three games that I've recently played and loved from PS+ are Super Stardust Delta, OlliOlli 2 and Flame Over. I would otherwise probably never have heard of these games let alone bought them. And yet having played them and realised they're fantastic games, I would have happily paid for them. And that's irrespective of the aesthetics; I really pity people who just can't look past graphics to what really matters - gameplay, and don't realise that if graphics are so important to them, they probably ought to have bought a PC in the first place instead of a PS4.

It sounds like you're asking Sony to give you games you were planning to buy anyway. If you want a particular game, pay for it!

Oh and for what it's worth, only 1 of the games I mentioned above is indie.

Vita owners unite!

They really need to stop **** on us with these terrible games... getting quite TIRESOME now!

Can we just use this rant thread going forward please, month after month, nothing new is being debated.




Copy.

Paste.

Save your energy?

Cold not a deal

Try playing those XO titles once your Gold expires.
I think you'll be surprised ;-)

,People should do some research into games and how it works. if your already winning the war, there's no point putting more money into the resources. Sony are miles ahead in the sales of playstation compared to xbox, there's no point in spending more money to be even further ahead. Hence why xbox have introduced backwards compatibility and ps haven't.

Another poor month of PS+, the Indie titles are creeping in more and more. I don't mind Indie titles but I already went through all that with the Ouya (Fist of Awesome and It'll Dew are quite amusing/good) ....We all know how well that worked out though. Why don't Sony just offer some freebie PS1 & PS2 games each month as a bonus? I'd prefer that to their latest offerings.

just watched some gameplay trailers on youtube...Zombi looks all right but no idea what was meant to be going on with deadstar and the 2 vita games look terrible...Shutshimi looks like a bad ZS Spectrum game!

I love mine. superb bit of kit.

Me too, there must be at least 20 of us now.

Meh.

Overall PS+ games have been better than GWG during my time with both services imo, tbh this month included but that is because I already owned all the GWG games. Even on a (subjectively) bad month I don't feel ripped off with either service as they cost so little for a year and both of them have given me my monies worth. I find it a little sad that people will automatically write off indie games, thanks to both services I have played indie titles that have put many AAA titles to shame with the amount of enjoyment I have gotten out of them. Try games you wouldn't normally you may be suprised.

Knack still sells quite well. I can't see it coming to PS+

21 I still have mine!!

Wait and see x

Dude, the game just released in October. How many people do you think Sony would p*ss off if they then gave it away?

Well just after seeing this lineup for Xbox this deal is just -33131 cold!

I have decided to make the swap over from PS4 for sure!

Isn't Zombi that god awful one the revealed for the WiiU a few E3s ago?

I literally don't understand the hate. PS Plus has allowed me to play indie games that I'd have never considered buying before, some of which have turned out to be gems. Also I have nowhere near enough time to even play through all of my own games as well as PS Plus so I constantly have a backlog of free games to download and play.
I personally think it's great value for money and Zombi looks pretty awesome!

Funny you should mention it because any triple A title I fancy I tend to pre-order, yes I know I shouldn't but because I am rather fond of collector's editions it's just something I have always done. There are times I'll wait for the review embargo and then make a decision but I can assure you any triple A title I've ever wanted I've had a physical copy of in my collection long before it ever reached PS+ or GWG.

I still have a Mega Drive and SNES back in England, if I want the old school/modern indie experience I'll dig one of them out and play Speedball, Streets of Rage, Desert Strike and the like. Sorry but I did not buy a current gen console to play antique looking games regardless how good they are. Off the top of my head the only two indie titles I do play were bought because I missed both of them when they was on PS+ for whatever reason.......Rocket League and Hotline Miami.

As this pic below demonstrates in the four or so years I've been marooned out in Europe I've accumulated just as much as I have always done at home in blighty. Oh and please forgive the mess but I am packing everything up as I am finally moving back home in a fortnight, all the more reason that Mrs Loyal is having proper palpitations about all this extra clutter that is returning to Essexshire with me.



So I would appreciate it if you were to take your slanderous accusation back my ickle flower because all I expect from Sony is a good online service which they continue to fail on and the same standard of games they used to put in the IGC before the launch of PS4 which again they've also failed on persistently month after month after month.

Perhaps others want 'free' games because they are too tight or unable to put their hands in their pockets but not me, hello if I want something I do "pay for it" #justsaying

Absolutely spot on, well said

22, mine is still going strong.

But we get games like MGS: Ground Zeroes, Rocket League, Hardware Rivals and Styx which offer a reasonable amount of bulk in my opinion. I think for how little it costs per month we get a pretty good deal. Each to their own though.

Before writing Dead Star off as Indie Trash consider its made by a studio consisting of ex Retro Studios staff. They're best known for making the Metroid Prime games on the Gamecube.

At least give it a chance.

*ponders* Am I too old for games.. or are they just no fun anymore?

​You're not looking for the right games if you think Indie games can't do story. Firewatch and Layers of Fear literally came out in the last couple of weeks.

​it was a general comment. how many indie games do you think have proper story and progression? most are arcady shooters and platformers.

Make that 23 :smiley:

Sweet Jesus, this post is so misguided. How many of the PS+ games most would think of as 'indie' have you actually played? Branding a game as lacking story, depth and progression just because it has the 'indie' label attached to it is wholly unfair and wildly ignorant. Tell me in all honesty that Destiny has more of a story than To The Moon, or Knack has more of a sense of progression than Shovel Knight, or Call of Duty Ghosts has more depth than Undertale or Papers Please, and I will promptly implode.

You can't really assume all indie games don't, I have played many with plenty of depth story and progression, Rogue Legacy, Bastion, Transistor, New n' Tasty (not really indie but classed as such) of the top of my head that have way more depth, story and progression than games like The Order.

So you are trying to prove your point by comparing against games like Destiny which we all know has limited plot due to Bungie screwing up? I don't think it helps your case. How about I name non-indie examples such as Witcher 3, Fallout 4, GTA V, Wolfenstein New Order, Telltale series of games, Life is strange to counter your indie examples? How do they compare to current indie offerings on PS Plus - Bro Force and Galak Z - in terms of story and depth?

I don't waste my time playing most of the indie games anymore. Why would I play indie games when I have a backlog of proper AAA titles to play? I have tried games such as Shove Knight, Rogue Legacy and Transistor but I find that I never go back to playing them because they don't offer anything that pulls me back into it.
I have enjoyed playing Rocket League for a bit but it got repetitive as well.

No, you are just naming a few exceptions, which is pointless, Out of all the indie games that were offered on PS plus there would be way more indie games that are just your run of the mill shooter, platformer/puzzle games than those with proper story and progression. If you think otherwise, you are deluded.
By who's definition is Witcher 3 an indie game? Yours? LOL It's hard to call a massive RPG in its third instalment an 'indie' game.

Not quite sure you hurt my feelings would be how I'd describe it cannibalwombat, if anything I welcome all abuse n hate aimed at me with open arms.......if I considered life to be some form of bizarre popularity contest ritual I'd support Orient and have tried my hand at being a lying politician.

I also take your rather catty "impressive collection of admittedly mediocre AAA games" comment as grudging acknowledgement that you did in fact slander me with your rather ill thought out assumption that I'm some kind of scratcher who expects everything for nothing.

Without wandering down Freud Street, which of course a working class nomark like me who has no GCSE's would never do, it's crystal clear you formed some prejudiced opinion of me being someone that does not buy anything.

I'm glad I reminded you to keep that 'never judge a book by it's cover' policy in mind for the next time you decide to go on some socially, intellectually or financially superior trip on someone you perceive lower than you, though I'm sure you won't want to thank me for it in public :man:

As for the pros n cons of indie v AAA bla bla bla I'd like to leave you with a simple observation. Why would someone so obviously infatuated with games developed by smaller devs with no corporate backing have a console anyway, never mind start suggesting those of us who prefer big budget titles should game on PC?

Last time I looked at the same old tired slurs n insults that my fellow console peasants lob at the PC master race and vice versa it's actually always the PC posse who claim console gamers are corporate slaves to the same few genres whilst PC gaming is all about hundreds of different genres developed by thousands of various indie devs dotted around the planet?

Just please don't play the graphics card again, no pun intended, every single console owner knows PC's blow our wee boxes away in that dept. Truth is the vast majority of us though bought those wee boxes because they can still handle the big pretty games we like to play, not a load of titles that wouldn't look out of place on the original NES.

No doubt you'll come back at me with something or other trying to mug me off once more and good luck with that. Just bear in mind though that by your own logic in your previous post you totally contradicted everything you've just said in this one by telling us we "ought to have bought a PC" :smirk:

Blimey this is getting a bit heated, the way I look at it is there are games with the depth of a puddle produced by AAA and indie devs and there are the opposite on both sides too. I tend to judge a game for it's content rather than how many people and how much money was spent making it. I think there is room in gaming for both and frankly if you are willing to wait over a year for a AAA game to be given free on +/GWG you weren't really that interested in it anyway imo.

OK. I'm clearly not getting through to people and now my comments are being deleted for some reason and there's no 'reply' button on comments any more. That's me done.

I use PS+ so that me and my son can share the games over 2 consoles and users and he can use online but I don't do multiplayer games, sadly had to miss both recent Tom Clancy games and Star Wars Battlefront because of it. I have had some absolutely fantastic games through PS+ and if I counted the games that I and my son have enjoyed and still do, it would have cost me stupid amounts of money. I think Sony could drop titles like basic Destiny, Order 1886, Knack, NFS Rivals, Battlefront 4 even but I doubt they will. I am happy to get the free games but this months isn't exactly one I am excited about.

Chasloyal I have nothing against Millwall and I have to be careful what I say, for risk of being accused of slander. JOKES.

By the way, why did you edit your comment omiting my quote and replacing it with my username?

PS plus has turned into a joke.. Basically giving us 2 mobile app games on the PS4 every month.

Chasloyal I did indeed think it was you because if it were the mods, I assumed they would have just deleted it like they did my comments. Very odd. Three lengthy replies of mine have now vanished. My comments sometimes get lost in the posting process too but not this time, and often I forget to copy first (as with these).

So they deleted your posts too? I would post mine again but they'd probably just get deleted too (as this post may, who knows). Sometimes the mods here seem to employ a very strange system of deciding what is and isn't reasonable discussion/banter.

In summary: 1) I wasn't suggesting you are a scrounger, I don't know you, I think my meaning didn't come across properly, 2) I wish people would give all kinds of games a chance, 3) I often take opportunities to counter those suggesting that indie games are automatically bad for whatever reason (some may object to the tone/words I use), 4) I have a PC and consoles all co-existing in perfect harmony, 5) good luck with your move and 6) vintage cheddar is probably the best cheese.

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Eating babies since 1885 :sunglasses: Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiil

​Totally agree with everything you've said there. I have always bought FIFA but this year I have missed out. Mainly because the game is just a rehash of every other year and doesn't seem to add anything new but I agree with your reasons for EA. I've had a problem with them for years and the games they have produced lately are just reskins.

As for PS+. I am a fan of Sony and have owned every Playstation device there has ever been but yes, I can't defend them when you put it up against the competition. They are outselling the competition and seem to think that they have a free rule over how much they charge and what they give away. I really can't see myself stepping over to XBOX but Sony could well lose allot of users if they don't open their eyes soon.

I'm glad you do agree thank you.

I'm not sitting on a pro Microsoft propaganda lecture, in fact I only bought an Xbone in the run up to Christmas a few months ago but facts are facts.

Sony are taking the pxxx out of their subs because they're so far ahead this generation, there can not be any other explanation for it.

As for EA, well I still would put Road Rash, Desert Strike and EA Hockey on the Mega Drive in my all time favourite top ten games so it don't give me any pleasure to dig them out. Alas I hate the FA, never mind the premier league, UEFA and FIFA so that's all I'm saying on that front.

I understand it's money but if others are happy to buy in to something endorsed by such a corrupt dreggy organisation as them well that's up to them but I'm not so EA Access actually gave me a pass there and I have to admit I am well grateful it did.

Back to the consoles in general, perhaps the NX will give PS4 the competition Xbone clearly hasn't but who knows....I hope so but ain't holding my breath.

​Hit the nail on the head! You have to remember though that PS plus is a subscription to pay for online gaming. There is also alot of game discounts to be had exclusive to PS plus. Worth the price of a game for a year of the ability to laugh at 7 year olds trying to play COD.

It isn't advertise as such, that was Xbox Live. It has slowly become Xbox Live (without the great servers) and GWG is going in the other direction. Hopefully it comes circle soon.

You people make me laugh, if you're bitching about having to pay £30 (which is less than a single game) for getting a minimum of 24 games over the course of a year you probably shouldn't be spending £300 plus on a games console. Some of the lesser known games are far better than some of the AAA titles everyone craves. Just don't subscribe to PS+ and go and buy Knack and Killzone for a tenner and save your time/energy playing them rather than moaning

I recently bought 12 months PS+ for about £20. I am sure there will be enough enjoyable games to justify that small outlay. In the past I really enjoyed Limbo and Rocket League. If I get a few games like those over the year I will not complain.

This is my regular username...duh

zombi on the Wii u is better! ps4 port is good but the game just don't give u the same feeling without the gamepad idea.

I think everyone prefers quality over quantity, but here's the lists for comparison:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Instant_Game_Collection_games_(PAL_region)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Games_with_Gold_games


What Sony really should do is allow loyal PS+ customers who subscribe for over 12 months access to the entire catalogue, but these kinds of deals between game studios and content providers are one off endeavours - otherwise no one will make money... the industry is already set back through piracy / 2nd hand games market, so DLC and subscription based business models are the only things keeping game developers and hardware makers alive and investors happy.

Great

​Is a potato still a potato if it labeled as a parsnip? (Irish saying or did I just make that up?). I've never really had a problem with the PS servers. PS Plus was great when I still had my PS3 as I got some great games like: Borderlands 2, Tomb Raider, Far Cry 3, BioShock infinite, etc. I miss my ps3!

Less than one comment every five months in over two years and then two in an hour?

Yeah course it's your regular username duh dinlow

Don't know much about Irish potato sayings but where were you when the PSN servers were down for months and the subsequent downtime every other night? Things are much better now but servers do go down every now and again without any compensation. I think they did compenstate once in the last year actually when PSN went randomly down on xmas or something.

​Yeah that sucked! (forgot about that dark period of my life) pretty sure the same thing happened to Xbox near the same time though?

Well actually it is, as I don't normally comment and just look at stuff on here. I won't bother in future as you seem to be some sort of HUKD commenting police. Why would I use my actual name if it was not my regular username??

Blimey and I thought my mob had an unusual surname, you must be the only family G80 in the entire country

Sorry that I brought it up. :disappointed:

I can't really comment on Xbox happenings but you're probably right.

A pedantic comedian as well, aren't you a catch

How awfully flattering of you to say but sorry mate, you're just not my type

​Shame, if only I was a real person with a real username

PS+ games are up now!

https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-gb/monthly-games/cid=STORE-MSF75508-PLUSINSTANTGAME

Damn.Bought Zombi a few weeks ago in the sale.Not a bad game.

And we're supposed to believe this is the primary username of somebody as argumentative as you who clearly has to have the last word?

You have doubled your previous two years' worth of comments in two days sniping at me, wow I feel epic :man:

Ok mate

THERE ARE BETTER GAMES ON THE ZX81 THAN PONYSTATIONS RIGHT NOW