I don't think Vodafone put any bloat in there at all. The more I use it the more I like it. Compares well with my wife's 2nd gen moto g. The lower screen resolution is hardly noticeable (to my eyes anyway). Camera isn't as good, but that's about it.

Are u sure it takes away the bloat? I thought the code only unlocks the phone (eg so any sim works)

Just picked one up at Sainsburys for £60 on Vodafone. Plus £1.65 and ten minutes to unlock (ebay). Seems to be running pure Android with no Vodafone bloatware. Nice phone.

Aha that fixed it, amazing that they require an update to receive an update! Cheers!

Have you tried updating Motorola update services in Google play store first then check for an update.

No idea, even to this day when I tell it to look for updates it says there are none and I cba doing an update over USB.

Bear in mind the weakest part of this phone is the 1GB of RAM. Which is equal to the amount in the moto e released 2 years ago.

Don't blame you there. Once you know how to do it however, always nice to be able to flash back and forth to not get stuck on something as horrible as 5.0.2.

if camera was better I'd have got this over the g

Ive just been upgraded to 5.1 this morning on 1st gen with Three

Yeah I know it can be done, just can't be bothered to waste several evenings trying to do it!

Not sure why you have not got it? my old 3G 1st gen got it along with my 1st gen 4g model.

Yes, I don't like 5.0.1 or 5.0.2. Why don't you head down to XDA? I'm sure those guys have figured out a way of manually installing 5.1 or at least a way to get back to Kit Kat. Its the first gen that I've seen 5.1 on so it makes sense that the second gen should have 5.1.

My 2nd gen moto g is still on 5.0.2, should I have had another update. Wasn't too keen on the lollipop update over KitKat to be honest, phone seemed more laggy after, but no simple way to roll it back so I've stuck with it.

Biggest issue with this phone is they still only have the 1gb ram from the original moto e.
We really need a 4.5" 2gb ram phone at budget price, preferably with microsd support like this.

That's strange, all my friends with G's are on 5.1 and lovin' it. Maybe you are rooted or on an obscure carrier that are slow with the updates.

The phone is famous for the wrong reasons. Its the phone that Motorola, (when owned by Google,) said would receive lots of updates and then only gave it something like 265 days until they dropped support, (as Moto was sold to Lenovo.)

Do not buy this phone if you ever want updates. Just pay the £20 more for the Moto G.

Depends if its important to you but Motg E does not have a flash facility on the camera apart from that looks OK

This will get Marshmallow - Motorola did say it wouldn't but have now announced that in selected markets, it will. Although by the time they actually push it out we'll all be on 7.0. The phone itself is a nice device but the camera is poor. It struggles a bit multitasking - but it's a good budget phone.

Just to add on the moto g 3rd gen v this.
The moto g 3rd gen has a slightly higher clocked cpu 1.4 v this 1.2 which might cancel out the pixel difference strain on the cpu. This is still a decent deal though and is due for marshmallow.

Am I silly waiting for the doogee x5 pro to come back in?

Its a handy size. think the 3rd Gen G is too big.
PLUS- bundle deal £10 loaded sim for the same price!!
Buy any SIM free phone over £75 and get a free Lebara SIM and £10 credit
Read more at http://www.tesco.com/direct/motorola-moto-e-2nd-generation-white/472-6874.prd#2pZdAgrfgu5jVikD.99

The Moto E is smaller in the hand, and probably runs a bit faster owing to the fact that it has fewer pixels to push around. It's quite a nice little device.

If I'm wrong then it not such a bad deal. I'd still pay the extra £20 for the G though.

good basic phone with great battery life but your be lucky to get 5.1.1 let alone 6.0 the eu models seem to have been abandoned :disappointed:

it has got lolipop.. like majority of all androids in the wild :/

of course, MOTO G is a better phone. but it is more expensive + locked.

Yeah deffo unlocked as they sell pay and go one for £79.

Good value for sure and the cheapest anywhere.

Bigger higher res screen, much better camera make it worth the extra £20 imo. Only £1.69 to unlock too. Last moto g I got from tesco was locked too, not sure about this one though.

This is good value if your happy with smaller screen though.

Spend £20 more and get moto g 3rd gen from vodafone

just wonder, are they unlocked?