the battery life on these are great, i can really go a few days if i have to
ive read mixed reports about the camera but again i find it amazing
screen is only 720 but for its size i doubt youd notice the difference if it was 1080 or whatever as its bright & good crisp colours, not sure what else youd want on a screen this size :smirk:
also going by the wifes z2 which has had plenty of updates, i expect this to be well supported for a while too, not abandoned like HTC do after 6 months
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Bendown
14 Jan 161#1
How about unlocking this?
j3remy42 to Bendown
14 Jan 16#17
It says on the website you can unlock it at any time for free on pay monthly but you are still obliged to see out the contract even if you don't use your o2 sim.
rogan1791
14 Jan 16#2
12months before they'll unlock it directly through o2
gsusx to rogan1791
14 Jan 16#23
erm, they done mine in about 12 hours
Bendown
14 Jan 16#3
A minimum of £10 on ebay to unlock
slipd
14 Jan 16#4
Are the eBay unlocks reliable? Great prices but I'm in no rush to upgrade from my Z1 Compact though. But I know someone who is...
Heat OP!
Bendown to slipd
14 Jan 16#5
Not sure, took me a week to get my z3 compact unlock off ebay
mattclarkie to slipd
14 Jan 16#14
i just went from Z1C (18 months old) to Z3. The extra 1Gb of RAM seems to make a real difference to using it. The Z5C still only has 2Gb so possibly not worth the upgrade though.
misterleoni
14 Jan 16#6
No way to unlock other than through eBay, add another £10 on top. No fast software updates as they'll have to go through O2 first, and no way to unlock the bootloader (should you ever want to).
DocDock
14 Jan 16#7
will this take a tesco mob sim? Tempted, though it's above my £300 budget.
Smith13 to DocDock
14 Jan 161#10
Tesco uses o2 network so yeah it should do
chrisbenwalker to DocDock
14 Jan 161#12
Yes, I was in the same position last year when I bought my z3 compact. Cheapest deal was o2 and I'm with tesco, and as they use the same network it will be fine.
tranceazure3933
14 Jan 16#8
good phone.i got my z3 off o2 last year when it was on offer for 240 with free chromecast.great little phones.easy equal of iphones.brilliant battery.i imagine this one is even better with having less flaps they are annoying.battery is slightly larger than z3 yet from what i have read online battery life isnt quite as good as the z3 i think the snapdragon 810 may be to blame as the screen is the same.so much for 64 bit octacore little big been more efficient.
HT UK
14 Jan 161#9
I bought a Z3 Compact from O2 last year. Unlocked it via eBay and then flashed the standard firmware onto it, instead of the custom O2 firmware.
Haven't had any issues at all.
dkconor
14 Jan 161#11
Few years ago when I got my Xperia S through O2 the bootloader was locked. So I was stuck with outdated versions of Android and buggy software from Sony (when third party ROMs could do so much better). Have fun with that.
mattclarkie to dkconor
14 Jan 16#15
Sony let you unlock the boot loader now. They also have one of the cleanest Android implementations, practically stock, and I find their tweaks to be an improvement.
OperateOnMe
14 Jan 162#13
Nice phone does everything, only downside is that it is chunky/brick-like, obviously good size screen. I still find it hilarious seeing people put 6" tablets to their ears thinking they have a bigger ***b, lol
lastdino to OperateOnMe
15 Jan 16#46
Are you thinking of the compact version, or the full size? I much prefer phones on the smaller side and this is a great shape.
irradiated
14 Jan 163#16
the battery life on these are great, i can really go a few days if i have to
ive read mixed reports about the camera but again i find it amazing
screen is only 720 but for its size i doubt youd notice the difference if it was 1080 or whatever as its bright & good crisp colours, not sure what else youd want on a screen this size :smirk:
also going by the wifes z2 which has had plenty of updates, i expect this to be well supported for a while too, not abandoned like HTC do after 6 months
celticbull2008
14 Jan 16#18
Got the Z3 Compact, Brilliant Phone.
Looking at the new Z5 Compact, Kinda don't see the point in Upgrading to this yet. very little difference and would ust be doing it for the point of having a newer model. But with not much noticeable difference for it.
SO, will leave will maybe another model appears & maybe one after this.
Happy with the Z3 Compact i have, and still punches above the other phones on the market..
x2srj to celticbull2008
15 Jan 16#36
I swapped the Z3 Compact for the Z5 Compact and apart from the fingerprint sensor I don't really see much difference if I'm honest... I do prefer the open USB charging port but they're the only two aspects that make me happy with the change of phone.
PantieRaider
14 Jan 16#19
Great spot there j3remy42. You should be boss of HUKF.
Chunk266
14 Jan 16#20
Snapdragon 810 for a 720p display! Overkill or not?
iDealYou to Chunk266
15 Jan 16#44
Not!
It's also used to run apps among other things. Image processing, complex maths etc... would be faster with modern SoC.
Modern SoCs are also more power efficient.
misterleoni
14 Jan 16#21
Let me guess...Simply Electronics (loud lol)
Bl00dlegend
14 Jan 16#22
you can get unlocked version of this phone at very for £319 with 20% code on first credit order (and pay within 12 months) and includes free Sony headphones worth £30 too
kevintoffer to Bl00dlegend
15 Jan 16#41
Looked good but you can't use the 20% code on SALE Items. The £399 starting price is a sale price on the CORAL version. Correcting myself: £399 is the normal price on the BLACK
gsusx
14 Jan 16#24
Heard some real horror stories about this turning into a mobile radiator in your pocket ....
eloo to gsusx
14 Jan 161#25
I have this and this does not have overheating issues like other phones with snapdragon 810. Maybe the less intensive 720p screen helps
popcorn786
14 Jan 16#26
This or the Samsung s6?
gsusx
14 Jan 16#27
hows the battery life and volume from headphones ????
sofiasar
14 Jan 16#28
this it LG g4 which voda don't have in stock
coolcat21
14 Jan 16#29
good find op, think I might finally have found one at a reasonable price, thank you :smile:
reesycer
15 Jan 161#30
battery is decent but not as impressive as it's older brother the z3c.
speakers are really good and volume is fine through headphones.
Camera is slow but takes some great pictures.
Android 6 update is around the corner.
my only complaint is the RAM they really shouldn't have cut corners there. but then that's why it's not 600 quid
Maximusaurelias
15 Jan 16#31
I understand that unlocking is quite straight forward, but does this phone come with o2 branding that is easy to remove?
jayjay266
15 Jan 16#32
Does the z5 compact still have overheating issues?
donnamaca to jayjay266
15 Jan 16#33
unfortunately yes
rogan1791
15 Jan 16#34
Contract? Pay as you go needs to be with them for 12months as far as I've been told
rogan1791
15 Jan 16#35
On their website it says the handset must remain on pay as you go for 12 months before they'll unlock it
echothree
15 Jan 16#37
Slightly off the z5c topic, but I've got a z3c and love it. As for the flaps, I got a magnet charger dock to save using the flaps, which didn't stop the USB from breaking with little use (connecting to pc for photos ((I hate google backup photos)), but I found a replacement for about £6 on Amazon and it fits even better than the original. I wouldn't go for the z5c based on what you're all saying about it.
SayAnything
15 Jan 16#38
^ pretty much my experience.
If you have, or know someone that has, an o2 contract use the details for that on the unlock request form online. I did it this way for both my Z3C (on o2 contract) and a family members iPhone (o2 payg) when we landed in Hong Kong and found both handsets were network locked. I used the account details for my Z3, which I'd had for about 4 months and the iPhone was less than a year old.
Can't remember exact time frame, but was absolutely less than 24 hours when the unlock was processed.
razzmataz1478
15 Jan 16#39
Sony do. O2 don't.
kevintoffer
15 Jan 16#40
Despite the price drop on the phone itself the contract deals still work out cheaper through third parties, such as mobiles, etc if you trust autocashback. (redemption deal is even better if it works).
Even the 4GB/1000-mins giffgaff combination is cheaper over 24months even though the phone is now £38 cheaper on o2 since they charge £6pm more for their 3Gb/unlimited-calls tariff (£21pm vs £15pm). Though you could maybe buy the o2 phone and use the giffgaff sim as its the same carrier. I guess you'd need to add the cost of the cheapest o2 PAYG sim, as I doubt they'd sell it simfree. There's possible £30 quidco on the giffgaff phone+sim package versus 2% = £6 on the o2. Which closes the upfront cost.
Oddly the o2 website makes you pick a PAYG bundle tariff (cheapest = £10) but then doesn't charge you anything for it.... As others have noted the o2 phone may well have a locked bootloader and rely on o2 software updates.
FoxRaynard
15 Jan 16#42
I got the full sized Z5 for the same price and it's very nice. My colleague sat next to me has the compact, and the full sized is much thinner with a better screen
Tejstar
15 Jan 16#43
The bootloader is very likely to be locked (so no custom ROMs), but you can easily install generic UK software on this. Search google for "XperiFirm and Flashtool guide". This means you can get the same updates as those on SIM free handsets.
Krizzo3
15 Jan 16#45
Id say stay away from sony, had tablet that broke (6 weeks in for repair), uncle had smartphone, broke in first month (took 7 weeks to fix)
Soonest I got tablet back sold it
Never buying sony again, got an iPad now, should have straight away
(Unless I ever want console, the only thing I would ever consider)
smellyonion to Krizzo3
15 Jan 16#48
Which phone do you have?
smellyonion
15 Jan 161#47
2gb is plenty. This has a 720p screen and snapdragon 810 making it the fastest phone out there. Itll blitz through games.
esskay92
15 Jan 16#49
That's not true. Sony only lets you unlock your bootloader if it's allowed on the device. Phones from networks (not just o2) prevent the bootloader from being unlocked.
cowtc
15 Jan 16#50
My z3c is on ebay at the moment, but I can say hand on heart, it has been the best smartphone I've ever owned. Worked flawlessly, ran really fast and smooth, camera and video is top notch. If you have z3c just get magnetic dock charger that will save you opening the flaps, that's what I used. I think the z5c battery is not quite as good as z3c due to the fingerprint reader constantly on, that's a feature I'd happily sacrifice a tiny bit of battery usage for.
intranix to cowtc
15 Jan 16#52
Just remember the z5 doesnt have the magnetic charging port. That's the only reason I'm not "upgrading" my z2. (I'd like a new warranty). I will wait for the next z6, hopefully that'll have wireless charging at least.
irradiated
15 Jan 16#51
not really, all phones get hot, although its not any hotter than plenty of other phones ive tried
i mean its not like they can have a giant fan on em to cool down is it
even with some pretty intense gaming its still ok to hold so dont panic and under normal use, like making a phone call, its as cool as a cucumber
thinking about this phone, my only issue so far is its a little bit slippy to hold, glass like back etc so im thinking of a rubber case before the inevitable happens
Krizzo3
15 Jan 16#53
Uncle has the Z3, the tablet was Z2 10.1inch. I personally have an iP6 after having iP5 and iP4 in the past.
tehriddler
15 Jan 16#54
HOT! Just bought for £ 340 a week ago! Gonna return it/ask for a price difference.
You can unlock immediately as it's a pay monthly. Just go through My O2 or use the online form. Then you can pay for your device in full and cancel the contract.
gsusx
15 Jan 16#55
thanks mate ... such a shame, the battery life has actually got worse throughout the compact series, the z1c was unreal !!!
jayjay266
15 Jan 16#56
Glad I got the z3c on the cheap six months ago then. :smiley:
bankerscum
18 Jan 16#57
this is against ofcom rules....
tranceazure3933
18 Jan 16#58
if modern soc,s are more power efficient then it makes no sense that the z5c has worse battery life than the z3c yet runs same screen and same software and is thicker and has larger battery.i doubt very much modern octacore soc,s are more power efficient than krait soc,s
tranceazure3933
18 Jan 16#59
if modern soc,s are more power efficient then it makes no sense that the z5c has worse battery life than the z3c yet runs same screen and same software and is thicker and has larger battery.i doubt very much modern octacore soc,s are more power efficient than krait soc,s
Coney
10 Feb 16#60
I have a Z2. Minor issues, like flap seals, but thats all
I also own a Z2 10" tablet, worked flawless
Same with my Z3 tablet
Couple of minor issues with the wifes Z1compact, camera freeze until reset, occasionally.
I won't even tell you how great my TV, DVD, Video recorder, surround sound, headphones, wired and Bluetooth have been.
Or how my sister was given a straight replacement for her old TV because it failed 1 month out of warranty
I won't even go there with the issues my daughters have with their iphones on and off ( 4s/5/6s). I will never buy another HTC ever.
Every product has a horror story. Your experience isn't widespread, and shouldn't put anyone of any of the above products
Krizzo3
10 Feb 16#61
On Z2 10 inch facebook messenger app wont record audio or take photos, and sony dont seem to give a toss about this either, dont mind there tv's but look what happened to vaio...
Opening post
Big features in a compact design, etc etc.
Full size Z5 for £407.99 also
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/sony/xperia-z5/#contractType=payasyougo
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ive read mixed reports about the camera but again i find it amazing
screen is only 720 but for its size i doubt youd notice the difference if it was 1080 or whatever as its bright & good crisp colours, not sure what else youd want on a screen this size :smirk:
also going by the wifes z2 which has had plenty of updates, i expect this to be well supported for a while too, not abandoned like HTC do after 6 months
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Heat OP!
Haven't had any issues at all.
ive read mixed reports about the camera but again i find it amazing
screen is only 720 but for its size i doubt youd notice the difference if it was 1080 or whatever as its bright & good crisp colours, not sure what else youd want on a screen this size :smirk:
also going by the wifes z2 which has had plenty of updates, i expect this to be well supported for a while too, not abandoned like HTC do after 6 months
Looking at the new Z5 Compact, Kinda don't see the point in Upgrading to this yet. very little difference and would ust be doing it for the point of having a newer model. But with not much noticeable difference for it.
SO, will leave will maybe another model appears & maybe one after this.
Happy with the Z3 Compact i have, and still punches above the other phones on the market..
It's also used to run apps among other things. Image processing, complex maths etc... would be faster with modern SoC.
Modern SoCs are also more power efficient.
speakers are really good and volume is fine through headphones.
Camera is slow but takes some great pictures.
Android 6 update is around the corner.
my only complaint is the RAM they really shouldn't have cut corners there. but then that's why it's not 600 quid
If you have, or know someone that has, an o2 contract use the details for that on the unlock request form online. I did it this way for both my Z3C (on o2 contract) and a family members iPhone (o2 payg) when we landed in Hong Kong and found both handsets were network locked. I used the account details for my Z3, which I'd had for about 4 months and the iPhone was less than a year old.
Can't remember exact time frame, but was absolutely less than 24 hours when the unlock was processed.
Even the 4GB/1000-mins giffgaff combination is cheaper over 24months even though the phone is now £38 cheaper on o2 since they charge £6pm more for their 3Gb/unlimited-calls tariff (£21pm vs £15pm). Though you could maybe buy the o2 phone and use the giffgaff sim as its the same carrier. I guess you'd need to add the cost of the cheapest o2 PAYG sim, as I doubt they'd sell it simfree. There's possible £30 quidco on the giffgaff phone+sim package versus 2% = £6 on the o2. Which closes the upfront cost.
Oddly the o2 website makes you pick a PAYG bundle tariff (cheapest = £10) but then doesn't charge you anything for it.... As others have noted the o2 phone may well have a locked bootloader and rely on o2 software updates.
Soonest I got tablet back sold it
Never buying sony again, got an iPad now, should have straight away
(Unless I ever want console, the only thing I would ever consider)
i mean its not like they can have a giant fan on em to cool down is it
even with some pretty intense gaming its still ok to hold so dont panic and under normal use, like making a phone call, its as cool as a cucumber
thinking about this phone, my only issue so far is its a little bit slippy to hold, glass like back etc so im thinking of a rubber case before the inevitable happens
You can unlock immediately as it's a pay monthly. Just go through My O2 or use the online form. Then you can pay for your device in full and cancel the contract.
I also own a Z2 10" tablet, worked flawless
Same with my Z3 tablet
Couple of minor issues with the wifes Z1compact, camera freeze until reset, occasionally.
I won't even tell you how great my TV, DVD, Video recorder, surround sound, headphones, wired and Bluetooth have been.
Or how my sister was given a straight replacement for her old TV because it failed 1 month out of warranty
I won't even go there with the issues my daughters have with their iphones on and off ( 4s/5/6s). I will never buy another HTC ever.
Every product has a horror story. Your experience isn't widespread, and shouldn't put anyone of any of the above products