Nice big drive for back up
Seagate 8TB USB 3.0 Backup Plus Desktop External Hard Drive
• 8TB desktop hard drive gives you a huge storage capacity for all your documents, pictures and videos
• USB 3.0 gives you a transfer speed of up to 5GB/s while the drive spins at 7,200rpm
• Perfect for storing all your valuable documents and pictures as a backup
• Backup Plus allows you to set up automatic backups of all your information
• STDT8000200
Top comments
cikki100
13 Jan 165#1
nice big drive to go caput
Maxow
13 Jan 164#15
If a plane landed where my NAS is located my data wouldn't be the first worry I had.
Rich44
13 Jan 164#21
absolute rubbish, the MTBF on these drives exceeds 800,000 hours for a start secondly you're comparing a components reliability against an appliance with multiple components.
Far more like to say have a bad capacitor in the psu of the nas or it could take a power spike which could destroy it vs a relatively simple hard drive.
Fact is no matter how your data is stored you keep it backed up.
When I was network manager I had 2 NAS's one was used by everyone the other was in a second building using rsync to backup the other NAS
Why do we have to have this stupid debate on every single hard drive post? It's quite frankly ridiculous, don't like big hard drives vote cold or just stfu instead
drasim
13 Jan 164#10
Failed arrays, failed power supplies, board, etc.
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cikki100
13 Jan 165#1
nice big drive to go caput
cikki100
13 Jan 161#2
nice big drive to go caput
Rich44 to cikki100
13 Jan 161#5
Any drive can go bang size is irrelevant. Having more drives means you increase the chance of drive failure.
BigYoSpeck to cikki100
13 Jan 16#26
Was the RAID 1 mirror comment on purpose? :smiley:
Same comment crops up every time 'large' storage drives are posted. Losing any important data is a hassle. If my only copy of things I need is on a 2tb drive, an 8tb drive or a 1.44mb floppy drive, losing that data is gone and is as big a problem as however vital the data demands it to be.
So you back up vital data, to several places, with an offsite option as well. And you test those backups so that you don't find out they don't work for the first time when you need them.
If I have 8tb of data, backing that up to two different 4tb drives rather than a single 8tb drive is bad practice because I just doubled my odds for having a failure. Yes you only lose half in that example, but if that data was vital it shouldn't have been the only copy, it shouldn't even have been just the second only copy.
You can keep all your eggs in one basket because unlike physical eggs, you can copy data.
ashleypride
13 Jan 161#3
same price at Amazon, £25 per TB is not a deal price especially for these SMR drives
barneyonion to ashleypride
13 Jan 16#4
whats an smr drive?
Maxow
13 Jan 161#6
At this size should be looking at a NAS. I wouldn't want to put up to 8tb of data on a single box
drasim to Maxow
13 Jan 16#7
Why not use as a backup of a NAS?
mbuckhurst to Maxow
13 Jan 163#9
I think the only requirement is to be aware of what you're doing, and make sure all your eggs are not in the same basket, especially for anything valuable or isn't easily reproducible.
I run a NAS, but I also attach USB drives to the device, and mirror those once a day, they don't need to be kept up-to-date with RAID, and if I need to take a complete set of data with me, I unplug one of the drives.
Personally the size doesn't worry me half as much as the technology, but it should have been tested reasonably well by now, so presumably works fine.
mike
Maxow
13 Jan 16#8
Why would you back a NAS up?
drasim
13 Jan 164#10
Failed arrays, failed power supplies, board, etc.
Rich44
13 Jan 16#11
These drives aren't built for every day use. These are archive drives built for use as backup drives or for unimportant data like say use with an Xbox.
It's also worth noting that these are NOT to be used in RAID for those breaking these down for the drive.
Are He drives at consumer level yet? For me the 3 & 4tb drives are the right price point
mbuckhurst to Rich44
13 Jan 161#17
I'm not sure He drives will ever be consumer pricing, just because of the complexity of building the things, versus the rapid price drops from the likes of Seagate with their slightly scary data handling.
The Toshiba 5TB drives, seem the sweet spot, generally sub £100, reliable (or at least so far) and I managed to pick up a couple, one with the potential of Quidco dropping it to £80.
mike
sleepingwonder to Rich44
15 Jan 16#53
so good enough to archive my porn download collection?
mbuckhurst
13 Jan 163#12
What happens if an airplane lands on your NAS? All the RAID arrays in the world, won't help, it's the backups (hopefully cloud or offsite) that will come to your rescue.
I backup to the cloud plus NAS, but whenever I'm away, I also take my really important data with me. It's all a question of value vs cost, I'm 99% confident in my cloud backups, but I'm also 100% confident it would take ages to recover the data, so I like to carry a complete set of important stuff with me, so recovery will be quick.
Equally I have 7TB of easily reproducible data on my NAS, so logically I could drop 3 disks and replace with one of these, which would be handy. For this data time is the only concern, but it's not exactly time critical to get it back either, just a little irritating.
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Seagate 8TB USB 3.0 Backup Plus Desktop External Hard Drive
• 8TB desktop hard drive gives you a huge storage capacity for all your documents, pictures and videos
• USB 3.0 gives you a transfer speed of up to 5GB/s while the drive spins at 7,200rpm
• Perfect for storing all your valuable documents and pictures as a backup
• Backup Plus allows you to set up automatic backups of all your information
• STDT8000200
Top comments
Far more like to say have a bad capacitor in the psu of the nas or it could take a power spike which could destroy it vs a relatively simple hard drive.
Fact is no matter how your data is stored you keep it backed up.
When I was network manager I had 2 NAS's one was used by everyone the other was in a second building using rsync to backup the other NAS
Why do we have to have this stupid debate on every single hard drive post? It's quite frankly ridiculous, don't like big hard drives vote cold or just stfu instead
All comments (54)
Same comment crops up every time 'large' storage drives are posted. Losing any important data is a hassle. If my only copy of things I need is on a 2tb drive, an 8tb drive or a 1.44mb floppy drive, losing that data is gone and is as big a problem as however vital the data demands it to be.
So you back up vital data, to several places, with an offsite option as well. And you test those backups so that you don't find out they don't work for the first time when you need them.
If I have 8tb of data, backing that up to two different 4tb drives rather than a single 8tb drive is bad practice because I just doubled my odds for having a failure. Yes you only lose half in that example, but if that data was vital it shouldn't have been the only copy, it shouldn't even have been just the second only copy.
You can keep all your eggs in one basket because unlike physical eggs, you can copy data.
I run a NAS, but I also attach USB drives to the device, and mirror those once a day, they don't need to be kept up-to-date with RAID, and if I need to take a complete set of data with me, I unplug one of the drives.
Personally the size doesn't worry me half as much as the technology, but it should have been tested reasonably well by now, so presumably works fine.
mike
It's also worth noting that these are NOT to be used in RAID for those breaking these down for the drive.
Are He drives at consumer level yet? For me the 3 & 4tb drives are the right price point
The Toshiba 5TB drives, seem the sweet spot, generally sub £100, reliable (or at least so far) and I managed to pick up a couple, one with the potential of Quidco dropping it to £80.
mike
I backup to the cloud plus NAS, but whenever I'm away, I also take my really important data with me. It's all a question of value vs cost, I'm 99% confident in my cloud backups, but I'm also 100% confident it would take ages to recover the data, so I like to carry a complete set of important stuff with me, so recovery will be quick.
Equally I have 7TB of easily reproducible data on my NAS, so logically I could drop 3 disks and replace with one of these, which would be handy. For this data time is the only concern, but it's not exactly time critical to get it back either, just a little irritating.
mike