Cheapest ever if I'm not mistaken? Massive backlog, will be cheaper soon, never really been a final fantasy fan blah blah blah.

Bought!

Well I don't think that games should be released broken either, but there are enough games developers out there to work on both remasters and new games, and if those working on new games can't manage to finish a game before it's released, that's down to bad management on their part. It's usually down to time rather than money - studio pressure to put a game out before Christmas, say - but I don't see why another developer should come to their rescue. I mean this FFX/X-2 remaster was made by Square Enix, with the bulk of the work outsourced to Virtuos, a small Chinese company that seem to specialise in mobile versions of console games but also did Fable Anniversary, while at the same time Square Enix were developing Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, which wasn't released broken, and FF XIV: A Realm Reborn, which was a huge improvement on the original, and they've managed to make the Kingdom Hearts remasters all whilst working on FFXV, Kingdom Hearts III, World of Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest XI and now the FFVII remake. Compare that to Rocksteady, who worked on nothing but Arkham Knight for 4 years, and still managed to botch the PC version - I don't think that would have been avoided had Square Enix not spent money remastering Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts.

Also, it's not just a case of 'keep your old console to play old games' - what about people who never had the old console in the first place? Who didn't play the game when it was first released? Who weren't even born? Remasters are for those people too. I never had an N64 so I missed out on Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask and was very glad when they were ported to the GameCube. Likewise, I never had a SNES but I've played loads of SNES games now thanks to the Wii's Virtual Console. And, even though I have had a PS2 for 15 years (it's still set up under my TV) I actually did not own a copy of FFX until this remaster came out and I bought it for the PS3.

That money they are investing in remasters should be spent on new games instead. It isn't free to remasters and it takes time and money to make them that are better spent on new games. Just look at how broken AAA games are nowadays and that money could be spent improving new games not old. If you want to play old games then keep your old console. Simple.

It was HD masters and re-releases in general. It won't be something that happens immediately, but over time... very possibly.

I think you might be combining two discussions there - there's a big difference between a GOTY Edition and a HD remake/remaster. I'm the sort of person who will wait for a GOTY Edition for any game that's going to have expansions or a lot of DLC, but personally I think that's because I've always got a huge backlog of games that I'm trying to work through and also because I'm a bit OCD about having to have every piece of DLC, whether I'll use it or not, so I like to see the dust settle before I jump in. That and the later you buy, the cheaper it will be. But the main reason I haven't bought The Witcher 3 is simply because I haven't played the first two games yet - have them, just haven't got round to them. If money was no object I wouldn't have said no to the game and a season pass on day one, because that's the same thing as a GOTY Edition in the end.
But HD remasters are another thing entirely. Some old games just aren't playable - both in the sense that people won't play them because they just don't play old games, but also because they just don't work on new systems. I guess the number of remasters has been on the rise for the last 10 years because we've now had two generations of consoles with terrible backwards compatibility and this is a good way to ensure that the best of previous generations is still accessible (and, yeah, sure, make a bit of money). And this isn't a remaster of a 1-2 year old game - FFX is 15(!) years old and X-2 is 13 - it's basically one remastered version released on the PS3 and the PS4, which is great because neither of those consoles play PS2 games so now these old games are accessible again, the PS4 version looks slightly nicer (I know the PS3 version gives you the choice of 720p with AA or 1080p without but the PS4 can do 1080p with AA, not sure if there are any other differences) but it being on PS3 as well means it's available to many more people. I don't think there's anyone who bought the PS3 version who wishes they waited for the PS4 version as they're so similar, and for those that do, you can just trade your PS3 version in for the PS4 one and copy your save game across.

Whilst your point is valid and well made, quite often, these games are from a year or two ago. As a console comes to the end of its life, gradually people will realise that the later games (such as GTA V on PS3/360) will just be re-released on the next console when its out in less than a year.

I didn't bother with The Witcher 3 because an enhanced edition always follows. That won't be long in arriving after the GOTY awards. The danger is that if/when more people start to think like that, the initial figures will be poor, meaning that less funding is available for such things. Long term, that is a legitimate concern. It also stops/delays companies from developing new IPs, instead focusing on the tried and trusted game and just improving the graphics.

When the best games on a current console are the previous console's games, that speaks volumes.

I have the PS3 and Vita versions but I'm still tempted by this.....may wait to see if they release a PC version like rumored.

Can somebody tell me if this game is what one could consider 'grindy'? I tried XIII and it just annoyed me so use that as a reference point :smiley:

Out of stock :disappointed:

I was waiting for so long for this to drop in price and finally bought it two days ago for £19.99. Why do things have to keep getting cheaper only to frustrate me?!

Great find, thanks for posting!

worth it for the cut scenes! revolutionary at the time! hopefully they've gone a good job at remastering! Heeeeat

Back in stock again

Great price. Got this for Christmas and already put 30+ hours into it, talk about a nostalgia overload!

Ah, interesting. That's as good as official then! (Unless something happens to make it get cancelled, which wouldn't be surprising with Squenix.) Wonder why there's a new listing for VI though? That's not the app ID of the version that's already on Steam.






Disagreed. Enhanced versions of games have been getting released for decades. Nothing new here except now there's obviously a bigger backlog of games and more effort is being put into the remasters, which is a good thing. And progress doesn't happen in huge leaps, it's continual. I don't think that affects sales because if everyone always waited for the next version no one would buy anything ever.

[Very Mild Spoiler alert]

FFX is only as 'grindy' as you want it to be for the main story really. You can grind for the Dark Aeons / Monster Arena for a while if you want. I clocked up 120 + hours on the PS vita version and have given up on beating the ultimate super boss Penance as it would mean many more hours. At least with FFX you don't have to beat the main story to continue grinding for the super bosses unlike FF13

Anybody know if these come with Japanese audio?

Out of stock :disappointed:

The remastered generation continues.This generation is a .5 gen. Will hurt developers eventually when less people buy games and wait for GOTY editions or the remake on the PS5/6 and so on...

Glad it's sold out really... I was getting tempted, but I already own both for the PS2, PS3 and Vita. Buying again would be getting silly!

Good price though!

Has this sold out now? I can't see where to click through to purchase it

I'm currently playing through this (never played PS2 version - have only played PS1 FF games). It's amazing!!!

See here :smiley:

http://gearnuke.com/final-fantasy-xx-2-hd-remaster-listing-leaked-pc-coming-steam/

One of my favourite games, comes right after Demon's souls.

Well worth buying.

The original is one of the best games ever. I've got this on ps3 and not even put the disc in and then also got it for ps4... Time to revisit it I think! But yeah loved both FFX and FFX-2. Why should you care? You shouldnt really... but its better than FFVII fact.

Thanks for the heads up, ordered! :smile:

Actual full on bargain, I've been waiting for this to drop. Good find (just got in on the lightning deal).... not that I'm going to play it for 18 years or so, but still. Thanks Buzz!

Amazing game, favourite game ever.
Borrowed it on PS3 and just couldn't get into it so I quit pretty quickly deciding some things are better left as memories.
I'm going to buy this just for the shelf as it's special to me.

Great game

My wallet told me not to buy but.... THIS IS MY STORY!

Got the Platinum trophy for this :smiley: I think the updated soundtrack is great btw.

I've heard this version has a different soundtrack (that's worse?) and some other tidbits. Is it worth getting again on ps4?

Cheaper on evil bay

Had this on release but sold it as I had too many games to play at the same time.

Bought again, thanks op.
Great price!

gutted just brought it for £26 :disappointed:

So SO TEMPTED....will never play X-2 again but who cares :wink:

Speaking from personal experience, SOMA was worth every single penny. That said, this is the cheapest I've seen it for a while.

Damned game, i thought this would autosave, i played for quite a while, then died and had to start again

I had It on PS2 but can't remember much of it....apart from playing a ton of blitzball lol

Cheapest ever if I'm not mistaken? Massive backlog, will be cheaper soon, never really been a final fantasy fan blah blah blah.

Bought!

My childhood right there

i bought it. Time to replay one of the best games of all time in glorious 1080

Now I am so temped. Hmmm, what must I do? :neutral_face: