Its OOS. This is £100 less and similar EXCEPT GTX 970M (instead of 980), but more memory...didn't read in full...
http://www.medion.com/gb/shop/gaming-laptops-medion-erazer-x7833-gaming-laptop-md99278-130018931.html

All that shows is how ignorant you are about current laptops.......

Just because you don't LAN doesn't mean that other's don't. Far more people also travel on business. Incidentally, laptops are becoming very normal at LAN parties, as unless you've got a titan, you can get much the same power ina more portable form. I'd also be interested where you got your quote of 99% from. Source?

Your first statement is ridiculous. If you spent £600 on a desktop then unless you've gotten some terrible second hand monitors, you'll have spent about £200 on them and about £400 on your computer, which means it probably has an i3 CPU, which will perform worse than a mobile i7, and a £100-150 GPU - possibly a 7850 - which is significantly weaker than the 980m. Either you spent far more than you claim or you are seriously overestimating your desktop.

You are referring to gaming laptops from several years ago, not the current status quo. I can understand your thoughts, as I had the exact same response to my friend when he bought a gaming laptop, but then I actually looked at the current state of them and they've come forward dramatically.

1. Overheating is really down to the specific brand. From the reviews your likely correct on this laptop, but the new alienwares are very good for temperatures - greatly assisted by ever decreasing power draws in CPU/GPU etc.
2. Again, battery life is crap in this laptop by all accounts, but I've seen a new alienware run fallout 4 for 4-5 hours, which is pretty respectable.
3. Performance is relative. I know plenty of people running 960/965 GPUs. The 980m is just below the 970 in terms of power, which is very meaty.
4(5). I promise that desktops don't like being dropped either. Should we also factor in spilling of drinks, house fires and power surges for this?
5(6) True, but then given intel CPUs require a new mobo every two years, really how upgradable is your desktop? You can keep the case and the PSU (maybe, haswell required specific PSU features when it was released), but if you're replacing your RAM (DDR3 to DDR4), mobo, CPU, GPU...you've basically replaced the entire PC anyway. The only gains you have are that you can do it piecemeal.
6(7) True, but then so are all non-mechanical keyboards. And you can plug one of those in if you want at home.
7(:sunglasses: I'd agree they're not ideal for playing on the move. If you plug them into a monitor etc. then they're functionally no different from a desktop. Except you can also take it away to play with. Is it optimal? Probably not. But you're also playing when you'd otherwise be unable.

Personally I'm not going to opt for this laptop as it has some serious issues around heating and battery life that I would rather pay a premium to avoid, but just from the raw spec, it's definitely a good deal.

I travel a lot, as much as I would love to lug around a desktop it does not really work out for me. This is why people buy gaming laptops. Overheating, battery life, noise, etc .... none of that matters if you can put it in your bag, take it to wherever you are going, plug it in at the hotel and spend the night playing games rather than watching whatever crap is on TV. Desktops are great, but they have a serious limitation if you do travel. I disagree with your point that 99% of people do not take laptops out of the house, just about everyone I know has a gaming laptop for that exact reason.

Can you give us a bit more info on it please?

Edit: Expired anyway!

I have seen two variants of this laptop, one has sold out already and both were selling at the same price with the same specifications, except one of them has a i7-4710HQ processor and this deal is for the i7-4710MQ. According to Medion, the i7-4710HQ variant doesn't have a backlit keyboard.

Out of interest, which of the two do you own?

And does it come with a UK keyboard?

Not surprised, a fair few 980m laptops have dual fans just for GPU - keeping it cool and relatively quiet

How are the temps mine sounded like a jet trying to keep the GPU under 80.c... ?

Console power??? This machine will laugh in the face of your "console"

Have you seen the spec of this? You would struggle to build a desktop (or "proper computer" as you put it) as powerful as this if you didn't already own a monitor, windows and other accessories. Gaming laptops used to be incredibly poor value compared to a desktop, but times have moved on significantly and they are quite competitive now, both in terms of pricing and power.

Incidentally, there are many reasons you might prefer to have a more portable system. I personally would like one to make attending LAN parties with friends easier, however I'm sure people who regularly travel for work or other reasons would also appreciate having one. It's not a case of one size fits all.

Of course, you're welcome to take your "proper computer" on a train - desk and all - and prove me wrong. Please supply pictures.

Just some possibilities:
Living in London where rent prices are insane and 200 a week gets you a room the size of a toilet. Just the convenience of having a portable laptop. Also uni when you need to take your laptop around, but don't want to buy a separate one. gotta think mate lol

Yes. So just think on that for a second why. My gaming medion capitulated very quickly, and don't think they are that keen on honouring long warranties. Cos they aint.

I wouldn't worry about it breaking in a year's time, as it comes with a two year warranty.

You could put something similar together here for a tiny bit less assuming you already have a monitor. The quick config I did had an i5 instead of an i7, but the heavily overclocked i5 probably performs similarly and doesn't thermal throttle. Also while a gtx 970 may not look as strong at first glance, it does out perform a 980m. That's also just a quick look thing. Probably could find it cheaper, although yoyotech are quality, they're definitely not the cheapest last time I check! :stuck_out_tongue:

Depends on the type of laptop but... generally speaking only really the HD and memory are easily accessible and upgradeable.

After having an Asus G75, there's nothing remarkable about their ROG brand build quality.

You do know that this laptop is an MSI at its core, right?

Not anymore. Check latest MSI, Asus, Clevo lineups. Things have moved on since a few years ago.

Have you never thought of buying a 6 fan underbase?

Really, Do you have anything with an IPS screen to compare it too ? I found it grainy and washed out with poor viewing angles which is a trait of TN panels.

It for me also ran very hot and loud. The CPU would reach 95.c+ and down clock under load. The GPU would struggle to stay and its default clock speeds.

I replaced mine with an Asus G751 in the end.

What is the screen quality like?

we have been waiting for external graphics cards for many years now, and whats the point? makes more sense to get a desktop and a chrome book.

Have you seen the ASUS GX2? Looks good to me, hope they keep the final design close to the prototype. Just need thunderbolt connectivity ideally.

Yes

​Absoloutely. Proper i7 quad core.

​got a convertible tablet from them. quad core pentium 4gb ram etc. Build quality is sturdy plastic, they aren't the most sturdy laptops but generally have adequate cooling. If you look after your laptops you won't have a problem.

​46 quid off 899 with new customer sign up and quidco cashback.

​13inch probably wouldn't exist with such a beast of a graphics card. would generate too much heat with i7 quad core. 15 inch good luck trying to find one at this price.

According to this forum post, a resounding "Yes"

https://forums.oculus.com/viewtopic.php?t=24277

No mobile versions work on the consumer rift. That article is for DK2.

You may get one of the new laptops that have an add on module that contains a desktop gpu, razer are releasing one.

http://www.cnet.com/uk/products/razer-blade-stealth/



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