Largely irrelevant though, because for anyone to bring any meaning to that they'd need to understand clock speed in relation to CPU archictecture. The CPU speed quoted is meaningless without extensive CPU architecture comparison. It won't stop manufacturers quoting CPU speed, but it really is meaningless to the consumer and they're led by their assumption of what CPU speed means which unless they are knowledgeable in the field is a falsehood.

For example the fact that this CPU runs at 1.33GHz and Turbo boosts to 1.83GHz? What does that mean in relation to the expected performance for the consumer? Absolutely nothing as most have zero knowledge of the CPU architecture employed. So is this CPU at 1.33GHz faster or slower than a Netburst architecture CPU at 2.6GHz or a Core 2 Duo Architecture at 2GHz or Playstation 4 CPU at 1.6GHz? What about when it Turbo's to 1.83GHz?

CPU speed is meaningless unless you have the knowledge to compare it to other CPUs, but then I'd ask why are you even bothering, when there's other factors to consider.

Is a 2 Litre car produced in 2016 better than a 2 Litre car made in the 1970s? Impossible to answer without more information and irrelevant based on engine size, engines can have differing amount of cylinders and various other technologies, it's the engine power output that's useful to know.

CPU speed is irrelevant at face value and at best is a useless specification and serves only to mislead the consumer.

The Atom Z3735F is a 1.33GHz processor with burst speeds of 1.83GHz. It is not a 1.83GHz processor.

Not that you can notice anyway, but then I'm not trying to play battlefield 3 or bioshock infinite on it. I have installed a load of games from 10 years or so ago and they run great e.g. knights of the old republic even at full resolution (ipad ~2k) It's not a perfect tablet though and I really wouldn't want to reccomend it to anyone mainly because it is a gamble. I've seen lots of reports of people not being as lucky as me and theirs breaking or acting weird. I did have to update the bios attaching a otg hub keyboard + flashdrive. really not user friendly

You're right that's why you should check benchmarks to get a real world idea of what to expect. my x98 pro cost about £135 from gearbest (took a month to deliver!) and has a Z8500 cpu which is roughly 2x the speed of the cpu in this see here
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2326&cmp[]=2581

I'm guessing the tablet will work well enough for basic tasks. £80 seems about the right price.

After a quick search nothing came up which makes me think either you can't or if you could it wouldn't work very well. My advice would be to not bother. If you need android then you are much better off buying an android tablet

My bad!, I thought this was purely for the Linx 10 BIOS Update, etc?, thanx anyway. :-)

Do you perhaps happen to know how to install Android on the Linx 10" Windows Tablet please?.

It was National .. no idea as to which Sainsbury's Stores still stock this again mind?.

It'll be remaining stock now ..... :-)

Also bought one today from Gloucester The Quays store for £49. Also bought a Sandisk Ultra microSDHC class 10 32gb card from Tesco reduced to £7 to use in it.

15-Jan-16 Found one reduced to £49 at Plymouth Marsh Mills which I had for the wife - could this be a national reduction??

follow these steps to update the bios. Once thats done then update your android to this to get a faster/more stable and rooted android. you will need a usb hub, flashdrive and keyboard

Has anyone managed to put/load Android &/or KODI on this?, let me how etc please?. :-)

Purchased my tablet 32 GB one from staples deal earlier in 2014. Effective cost around £40 after swapping old tablet.
Updated to win 10, no issues. Year of office 365. overall good bargain.

How'd you update the BIOS please?. :-)

If anybody is still after this tablet. Saw 6 on shelf in the Sainsbury's central Milton Keynes store last night.

Any good cases, screen protectors and keyboard?

Thanks for the info. That retail demo stuff you mention isn't installed on my tablet...

There were 12 of these left on the shelf this afternoon at Sainsburys Arnison Centre, Durham.

Checked with Sevenoaks Sainsbury's yesterday and they said they had 30 in stock. Got one today.

I don't think mine does, only said it could free a few MB??

Can't find it :disappointed: can you post a link pls??

I had a similar issue with my Linx 1010. Search the web and it tells you how to clear a folder in the Windows that allows it to update.

Thanks for the post. I managed to buy one tonight...

Anyone else have Windows 10 already installed on their tab? (Mine even mentions it on the spec on the outer box too)

None on display at my local Sainsburys but they went and looked and found two which scanned at £79.50.
Back of the device is absolutely plastered in finger prints, no mention of it being a refurb or ex display model though.
Will have a play and update it to the latest build, more interested in android or linux running on it at some point

I couldn't update it due to the lack of memory so returned it. Seems Sainsburys are the only store selling the lite version, linx are aware of the problem, there is a fix but really it's daft having a 16gb version of this, great little table, but buy the 32gb version to save hassle.

It wont update :disappointed: Says it needs extra storage. Tried USB and MicroSD but same result, seems go well but just hangs at 0% upgrading windows (1% copying files) !! Any ideas??

Do you have to shut the tablet down or can I just press the sleep button on this tablet

Apparently not a Sainsburys wide deal - all of the Glasgow area stores still have the unit at £159 - with no notice of any forthcoming reduction....

Anyone tried putting Android on this late version?

Do you have to keep the USB pen drive in all the time once you've updated it

Sainsburys in Hinckley had 30+ in stock. Shelf label shows £100 but took to customer service and is scanning at £79.50

Just checked my local branch in South Ruislip but it's £140!!

@ is it at all Sainsburrys?

I got my Linx 10 (original) from the Staples deal too, £79.99. The only thing I wrangle with is the audio output which is kinda quiet. Tried DFX Audio Enhancer but after a while it seems to clash with Flash Player and stops video playing properly.

Uninstalled that and tried Bongiovi DPS (Digital Power Station) and it goes silent after a while. Had to uninstall both.

I bought the 32GB model from the staples Black Friday deal in 2014 and must say its a great tablet, out of all the tablet deals I have bought from HUKD its the only one I still actually use

Local store didn't have one...so I bought the similar spec 8" for £50

Ok deal if you add the keyboard cost and additional memory

I bought two of these tablets yesterday. When you try to update them to the latest windows 10 build there is not enough onboard memory for this to happen. No problem I thought, pop a 64gb sd card into the tablet and problem should be solved. Well I was wrong, the update process locked up at 3% and after this I searched google and apparently there is a issue that makes updating from the sd card very hit and miss. I tried once more to update via the sd card and it worked the second time around so that was a relief. Sadly the same thing happened again on the second tablet, locked up on the update via the sd card. I switched to using a usb stick instead because I read that this way should be problem free. I am pleased to report the tablet updated itself without any problems via usb so if anyone is having problems give that a go.

ive been using a 9" with this processor and similar spec , really good machine . runs office and streams videos really nice . been a good buy . this is a decent price too i paid £85 for a 9" version
eBay item number:
271880522829
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Sainsbury seem to be doing some really bad price fiddling with this. The 32Gb 10" Linx with faux leather is £159.99. The Linx 10" Lite was Sainsbury's Black Friday deal and was sold at £100. That was its initial sale price.

Voting cold as its a £20 saving not a £90 saving.

The amazon bundle is £60 more than this offer. Some people will not want the keyboard so if you get the lite version from Sainsbury just put a USB memory stick into the tablet and it will update without any problems.

The box quotes "Includes Word Mobile, Excel Mobile and PowerPoint Mobile" do these require a Office 365 subscription?

OK been reading issues when people try to update Windows it says there's not enough Hard Drive space. For £50 I'd get the full fat version from Amazon which comes with a Keyboard

Lite means 16gb instead of 32gb. That is the only difference.

Why is this called "Lite" what is it lacking compared to the normal ones?

could have actually compared it with something relevant rather than saying the same thing several different ways :-)

the reason why processors are described like this one is because corporations get tax breaks due to green environment investments they are all using trying to get more from less power usage, well that's the governments proposal but corporations and their lawyers get round the legislation but this one is working I think because the corporations are refining tech rather than pushing clock speeds ever so higher

Struggling to find the right keyboard for this. Can anyone confirm if the 1010 version fits or if it's the older origami one?

Pretty sure the fact that the processor can run at 1.83ghz makes it a 1.83ghz processor.

Instead of going from one extreme to the other it might be better to say it usually runs at a lower frequency of 1.33ghz and speeds up to as high as 1.83ghz as required which is really how most CPUs work these days. The limiting factor with this tablet will be the limited cooling ability which will in turn possibly limit the duration the cpu can stay in turbo mode for but the fundamental practice of the CPU running at a lower frequency and speeding up/unlocking more cores as required is pretty much how every PC cpu work these days and is certainly nothing unusual.

Besides that, as already stated raw clock speed is no more a reliable measure of computing power than megapixels are a measure of image quality in a camera.

Not bad deal but 16gb could be a real problem as Windows will use the majority of that and programs aren't necessarily installable to an added card.

Fresh out of the box mine had 7.97 of 14.1 gb free. No updates yet.

How much free space is available on the 16gb?

Bought for £120 with keyboard/32gb/2gb ram Amazon lightening deal near black Friday. Had windows 10 and updated itself within 5 mins. Since then I've had no problems and can say it is an excellent product, from streaming videos to anything, no lags and very fast browsing. The 16gb one would be a little bit of a gamble.

Wow! When I posted this I really should have said "up to 1.83Ghz" which is what it says in the box.

Apologies to those who have spent a lot of time "debating" this subject which in reality is a mistake on my part.

The question should be: Is it actually worth the money or more hassle (bearing in mind future Windows updates) than it is worth?

good that it was 2gb RAM but the tiny onboard storage just isnt good enough to make it usable unless you keep everything on the cloud

I also had problems installing the large November 2015 update on a 16GB Windows 10 tablet. There are solutions posted on the web but it's a lot more hassle than it should be.

There was about 2.5GB of space used on something called 'retail demo files' or similar on mine, deleted those and the update worked fine. Found it under disc cleanup/ clean up windows files in desktop mode. Usually run this on my desktop every few weeks or so.

Tablet is great at what its designed for, nice and zippy.

hi i have 1 of the linx 1010l 16gb tabs overheating on my table at the mo this is the 5th time its happened and only had it since chrismas (when i first turned it on it updated no issuses)

bought one of these on black Friday and there was a windows update due when I set it all up....the update was bigger than what available memory was left and wouldn't let me install it to the SD card so couldn't complete it....then it froze and crashed
had to return it for a refund
also at the time windows 10 wouldn't let what few decents apps were available be downloaded to the SD card
dont know if this has changed yet but I'd avoid this tablet....cold

Just booted it up and it seems fine far, only issue I have is the Windows storefront icons are blank and not loading properly, any ideas?

While I'm not going to argue with you over clock speeds I do believe Jefft was correct to point it out. I find it highly likely that someone without that much technical knowledge might go for a tablet listed as having a z3735f with a clock speed of 1.83GHz over one that was correctly listed at 1.33GHz, even if the price was a little higher.

I do, although my stats here say otherwise :\ and anyway I've got mince pies left over from Christmas :smiley:

You missed the point entirely, but no matter. Have a good day, I'm going to assume that like me, you have much more important things to do than go on about a CPU's clock speed on an unimportant internet forum.

1.83GHz or 1.33GHz, they could say it's 10GHz, you have no point of reference. It's like saying the tablet is aqua blue when it fact it's marine blue, you know the correct colour but does it really help you to know that the CPU is 1.33GHz and turbos to 1.83GHz? Stop and actually think what you've discovered in the truth.

Girls, please... stop all this fighting.

Absolute rubbish in this particular scenario, we are not comparing different CPU architectures in this instance, they are the same cpu.

So if someone has a 2013 petrol ford fiesta zetec that has 1.4l engine and another person has a 2013 petrol ford fiesta zetec that has 1.6l engine, you know the 1.6l is faster (provided they were both maintained in the same way)

So stating that this has a 1.83ghz cpu (the ghz rating is set at its base speed not its boosted speed) when it actually has a 1.33ghz processor is like stating a car has a larger engine than it actually has.

What's the best 8 and 10 inch windows tablet you can get? Excluding surface

maybe a silly question... but i am sure it would help other people ( :stuck_out_tongue: ) ... anyway is the 16gb vs 32gb the only difference between lite and nonlite? its all i can see

Same specs as my current windows tablet and it is very quick. You can upgrade to windows 10 if you stick it on a usb stick and have the magnetic keyboard attachment.

The specs should be there, but people should also know how to quantify them or they're useless.

Give me the true specs and let me worry about being confused thank you. Just like with every other product in existence. This is listed as a 1.83 Ghz processor which is misleading.

Don't confuse this with the 'Leather' Linx they have on display. I just went into my local and there were none out on display and no mention. Asked the very helpful lady who looked in the cupboard below and there were at least 5, picked 2 up, one for me and one for the wife. The cost was actually £79.50 each. Listed on receipt as Linx 10" - half price.... Will replace a very old Ipod and a old android tab at this price... Remember, if you are polite to shop staff they will go the extra mile and look around for you so don't assume they don't have them.

You completely misunderstand me. I'm all for it. The consumer is being duped! You can see this everyday with rebranding of existing tech in graphics cards. Believe me all that I've said here is pro consumer and not against! Tell me what you actually gain as a consumer by knowing the clock speed of a CPU. Your gran, your sister, your Dad? What does that clock speed indicate to them? Nothing, they have no basis for comparison unless they get on Passmark and other similar sites which they likely don't know about and might well still confuse them.

I don't understand why you are so incessantly against consumer info, in consumer interest I want the facts not true specs to be derided as irrelevant.

I don't. The seller does.

Which is irrelevant. Doesn't matter what clock speed they state you still have to quantify it.

A lot of words but as I have a PC with this processor, I can definitely say it is extremely frustratingly, very, VERY, SLOW. As for a 2 litre engine I can compare this directly to a moped.
The point I was making is, it is being claimed to be 1.83GHz when it is not.

To those experiencing problems installing the windows update. The actual reason it didn't work was that the update won't install until after 30 days from registration. I bought mine on a black Friday deal and only managed to do the update last weekend. I downloaded the update to my sd card and it installed fine. I agree though that 16gb us low, but with a 128gb sd card in it it's great. And it's full windows 10 so its great fir streaming media from other computers on my network.

If it had 32GB like my Asus T100, red hot.

16GB and Windows 10 - sorry not enough to run Windows updates so not fit for purpose IMO.

hot from me for this.

was 80 pounds in staples last year. Now similar deal from Sainsburys after almost a year. A deal with better specs is required after such a long time. I know I am being greedy, but just got too many electronics stuff at home

16gb it not good i have 32 GB and only 6 - 7 GB free i have only few apps installed but nothing big really I gues ITS running the Windows bing with USD less space but it will be still very limited even with the memory card AS when Windows start to downloading updates it won't have much space free in few SEC. i do not recommend to buy it even if it was for 50 notes

sorry for my english :wink:

Beware. Bought one of these for £100 from Sainsburys in Black Fri Deals.

First thing it trys to do is update to the latest version of Windows 10. BUT there is not enough free space in the 16Gb storage to do it so constantly fails the update

Added a 64Gb SD Card but it still would not install as needs to be to main storage and on Win10 SD Card cannot be used or combined with main storage

Tried loads of ways to update, but in the end gave up and took it back

nice toy but the 16gb with WIN10 cripped it

I had a chuckle at kurai's recent comment (on the Chuwi Hi10 thread I posted a month or so ago) calling the Chinese Cherry Trail tablets "Shenzhen parts-bin specials" :laughing: Sorry for going slightly off-topic!

Not that you can notice anyway, but then I'm not trying to play battlefield 3 or bioshock infinite on it. I have installed a load of games from 10 years or so ago and they run great e.g. knights of the old republic even at full resolution (ipad ~2k) It's not a perfect tablet though and I really wouldn't want to reccomend it to anyone mainly because it is a gamble. I've seen lots of reports of people not being as lucky as me and theirs breaking or acting weird. I did have to update the bios attaching a otg hub keyboard + flashdrive. really not user friendly

Thanks OP just picked one up

You experiencing thermal issues on your x98 pro?
And that wasn't sarcasm - apparently bios changes have improved things and ppls are making their own cooling solutions. Was asking as quite interested in new Cherrytrail tabs.

Difference is your gearbest machine will barely last a year due to overheating.

Bought the 1010B (32gb) last week with keyboard and I love it. I'd imagine the 16gb in this is going to be gone swiftly considering the OS takes up over half of that.

I would be all over the 1010B (32GB) at this price but the 16GB storage in this Linx Light 10 (1010L) would put me off big time - I agree this is about the "regular" price, it's not a Deal in my eyes. Better waiting for a deal on the Linx 1010, or even the older "original" Linx 10 in new condition.

The Chinese Cherry Trails are all a much better buy but there seems to be overheating issues and other hiccups at the moment (been watching the Teclast X98 Pro, Chuwi Hi10, etc). Plus, of course, there is no UK warranty to speak of when things go wrong, which you'd get with the Linx tablets.

You're right that's why you should check benchmarks to get a real world idea of what to expect. my x98 pro cost about £135 from gearbest (took a month to deliver!) and has a Z8500 cpu which is roughly 2x the speed of the cpu in this see here
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2326&cmp[]=2581

I'm guessing the tablet will work well enough for basic tasks. £80 seems about the right price.

The Atom Z3735F is a 1.33GHz processor with burst speeds of 1.83GHz. It is not a 1.83GHz processor.

Might want to look at the previous post for this tablet when it was £100...seems to be something dodgy with Sainsburys apparent mispricing and the tablet being exclusive to Sainsburys.

I have a couple, they're perfect for what they are designed for.

can you click on a keyboard to this?

good deal. shame its not online

the price in our local Sainsburys is £79.50 , and yes it does only have 16GB Storage onboard

does the 16GB storage model even have 2GB of RAM?

Dammit. Can't get to a Sainsburys until the weekend

link to actual item or in store only?