Don't forget all Audi's come with the option of driving 2 inches behind the car in front as standard...

Ive never leased a car before, so this is new to me, but i figure if i went and spent £20k on a car, what would i expect to get back after 2 yrs - £15k perhaps?

i currently pay £250 a yr road tax (or similar) plus MOT's at £30 - that stops, so take £600 off the total rental cost say.

On top of this my current mondeo (which i do love!) gets about 25mpg round town, this should be a whole heap better (maybe 40mpg) - that works out roughly £900 a yr in fuel, so £1800 over the 2 yrs.

That represents £2400 saving over my current car, without including any costs that an aging car will potentially need. So all in its costing me £1k a yr (very rough figures here) to have a brand new car.

Audi's what?

I agree with this OP,

Its worth sitting down for an hour with a notepad and paper. It can be a false illusion that getting a new car can save you money (of course if you want a new car, then it would be irrelevant anyway)

As topps pointed out - is your current Mondeo costing you £1700 a year in repairs/tax? I know the tyres on mondeos can be expensive (mine are 18" and cost around £150 each for decent ones).

Remember, this will be £1300 up front (the cost of a very large repair bill - new engine?) + £142 a month every month for 2 years (the cost of a service every month). But the upside is you will have a new car parked outside.

Choose wisely bro :sunglasses:

Does anyone know how to renew audi connect??

I rather liked the google maps overlay that it had on it - my 3 month freebie has run out :disappointed:

That's what I thought, and Audi Doncaster's leasing bloke told us that, but in the paperwork we received it confirmed that we're neither owner nor keeper, both are the lease company. Fortunately my insurer changed it without charge in the end, but do check with the lease company themselves rather than the dealer, as the dealers definitely gave us the wrong info on that one.

who did you speak to? I spoke to a guy from Oxford Audi but I might give a ring to Audi FS. Thanks.

From what I was told the lease company is the legal owner and registered keeper is the person leasing the car.

In terms of the insurance I've got lease company as a registered keeper and legal owner is that right ?

Has anyone taken out Gap Insurance? My insurance company will not replace with a new car if written off. They would if I owned the vehicle but not for leased cars.

i've had mine since jan done around 6k miles, get around 48mpg that is purely motorway doing average 70mph. Great car, only gripe is very small fuel tank

I'm loving it too- the turbo seemed to loosen up at 1,000 miles. It flies for the output. Really good car

Been getting 49.8 mpg. Exmouth to tiverton and back. Put on auto and used cruise control at 70 on motorway :wink:. Very very happy with this car. 18 months and I need to be thinking about what I get next on a lease :smiley:

#mine

My triggered the other day when I hit the brakes late due to some one braking hard in front and failing to indicate for a turn!!

http://safecarnews.com/audi-pre-sense-city-is-standard-equipment-on-new-a4_ju612/. I didn't know my car had this but I got a warning when someone nearly walked out in front of me. This car deal gets better every day

45 miles today. Exmouth to honiton. About 10
Miles on dual carriage way. Rest over the common on winding country roads and stop start in traffic. 43 mpg. Oh and in dynamic mode. I don't like auto as I keep looking at the dash and thinking I am driving an auto :wink:

set the drive to comfort... i had mine on dynamic, seen MPG rise loads when i set the driver control to comfort!

I tend to get about 40mpg, but it really does seem to depend on how you drive, put it in dynamic mode and I'm lucky to see 35mpg, if i drive sensibly without a heavy foot in auto mode i've got as high as 47mpg. Still not managed to go on a proper long distance trip on a motorway yet though.

Either way I'm happy for the price I'm paying it's a new car and it's still got better fuel economy than my old 1.6l Focus.

I would be happy with 45ish. I'm currently getting 28ish. Maybe it's cuz of the way I drive.

45ish here too over 1000 miles

45 mpg here done only 651 miles though

What sort of fuel consumption are you guys getting. I think mine is very poor compared to by 1.7 diesel Astra

Getting mine delivered on a transporter on Wednesday. Did it though v4b and this was via York Audi. Signed the Audi paperwork last week which was really wrong!! They sent me the finance agreement based on a standard car but I'd added a few extras which should have bumped up the initial and the monthly fee.

Signed it and sent it back in hope. Had a phone call saying they'd made an error but I explained the contract offer/acceptance and that all parties had now signed it so I wouldn't be paying any extra that what I'd signed for. They weren't happy and said that I wouldn't be getting away with not paying for them. Around 20 minutes later had a phone call saying that Audi would take the hit for the cock up. I've ended up getting £1075 worth of extras that I added on for free!

Wish I'd have properly pimped it out now!

Thanks for the info everyone has supplied about that car it's been really helpful.

Has anyone had insurance quotes and if so do you have to specific modifications to the car even if they are factory fit?

My build week was 23 May but that's when it went in to quality control. I wonder how long it will be until the car is ready to collect

When was your build week?

Difficult it for me to comment as I had a 10 day holiday between so not sure if I could have got it earlier but it was just over 2 weeks for me

Fellow Oxford Audi customers, despite the status on my order tracking getting to stage 9 last Monday (16th May), I've been told I've got to wait until 1st of June to collect.

What kind of delay did you guys have? I think they might be delaying the sale so it hits the June sales figures. You reckon I should be more insistent on an earlier date? I just don't understand why such a delay is necessary.

Lease cars dont need to be run in :wink: - I will have a look - I am pretty sure whenever I have bought new cars in the last few years I have been told that they are run in at the factory - but that doesn't include the breaks and other non engine parts

I wasn't told to run it in when i got it from the dealer ...

I've got the saloon but apparently the Audi ones are the best as they're taylor made for the car

I was going to ask do you need to run it in or not ?

anyones have a bike rack for the avant they could recommend??

Amazing car. Drove to Wales to do a cycle race today. The bike fitted in the boot easily. Averaged 48mpg and have realised its really nippy for a 150 bhp car of its size. What a bargain

So how is everyone getting on with their cars - I would imagine that you should all have them now?

This is the exact model I believe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyiN4CXdyAc

Tbh I dont have any pics but Audi did send me a video. Will try and email you the link as a pm if not send me your email by pm and will send that. Car play just isn't that exciting and its limited on the apps you can use and I miss waze I also thought I might see the artwork for the music but you don't :disappointed:

Got any pics?

Great summary. Funnily enough our other car is a Qashqai!

How is the CarPlay, when you say it leaves you wanting more do you mean that in a positive way?

I'm looking forward to getting it. I'd get bigger alloys if I had the option however it's not worth the extra

So a quick update from me for those who are still waiting for their cars as I have now been with the car for over 24 hours.

- The car is BIG! - We have a qashqi at the moment which feels small compared to this.

- Its really smooth on the road and comfy - I drove it for over 3 hours yesterday after a 9 hour flight and also 1.5 hours to the garage in the qashqi - I felt no aches or pains and I didnt spend long getting the driving position right.

- I wish I had gone for another colour (I went for white) but this was a budget deal I was looking for and I didnt want to pay the extra - I have regretted so many black cars in the past so that wasnt an option for me either.

- People have said its slow away from roundabouts - I have found if you are coasting in 2nd you need to drop to 1st - but I moved it into dynamic mode and this seems to be a bit better but too early to tell

- I really wanted carplay - I now have carplay - It leaves me wanting more

- You do get a cable to connect your iphone - its really heavy duty - that cable works better than my iphone original cable as car play dropped out part of my journey - you dont get an android cable

- Wish I had got bigger alloys - they look small - but then again I wish I had got the new Jag F type - FFS This is a budget car you have bought!

- Cant believe the quality of car I have got for the money I have spent/going to spend.

- I really should have read up more about the car before I ordered but needed to act fast and then I wouldnt have been surprised that it was keyless start (a nice surprise)

- Its not as quiet on the road as I had expected from the reviews - but it is quiet.

- The car is BIG (I think I said that) - probably looks bigger cause its white!

Any questions just ask - But i am very very happy with the car and massive thanks to Dbrown who pointed me in the direction of Oxford Audio to secure the deal and I am sorry that I got my car before him

Well got mine today. 47 mpg for its first 172 miles which was the trip from the dealers to home. Took it steady as had just been on a 9hour flight

9 days from arriving in the UK to pick up. That seems a long time! I'm getting impatient.

Mine has just left Ingolstadt. Hopefully it'll be less than 3 weeks!

Getting mine on Monday. I have managed to get it sorted within 9 days of it arriving! It was also cheaper to insure than my 2.0 cdti Vauxhall Astra Elite which has just been sold on Autotrader

As I say, it is saying that the car has arrived in the UK now, I just wanted to know how long from that point it took to get to the dealers and be ready for collection.

Mine is about 3 weeks but it varies a lot depending on if the car gets on the boat

Sorry if this has already been answered a million times, but what was everyone's delay between the order status changing from "In transit - arrived in UK" to "Arrived at dealer".

Easiest way to tell exactly is to look on the https://www.audi.co.uk/myaudi-public-api/services/v1/orders and look at the difference between the date the order switched to status 40 (In transit - arrived in UK) and the date it switched to the "Arrived at dealer" status code, which I presume may be status 41.

Audi Oxford

Thanks...

Was yours ordered directly through Audi or from a leasing company?

Mine was 11th April and I pick it up this Thursday. So just over 4 weeks. It will zoom through the stages until it gets to quality control and it will take a while to go through that at shipping based on my experience

My first day of build week is today, but it's already in the QA stage. Expecting it delivered in 2-3 weeks.

I wonder how long it will take for me to receive the car from the first day of build week, which is 2 weeks away.

Audi tracker still shows the status as order received

First day of build week '2016-05-23'. That's 2 weeks away!

Got two chips in the windscreen already. Both are big enough to require a new windscreen. Hope it's bad luck and not a weak point in the car.

Log into your Audi. And then click the link. It will give a load of data which looks like rubbish but at the bottom you will see in the data dump "build week" and 1st day of build week

Access is denied is the page that opens when I click the link

I ordered mine on 24/01/16 and it's just arrived in Dover. The dealer thinks it'll be another two weeks for delivery to me. Almost there!

Most of us had to wait 3 months+ before it changes status.

Use the https://www.audi.co.uk/myaudi-public-api/services/v1/orders to check your build date (after logging in to youraudi).

I ordered my car in March, I wonder when mine will go to production. It's been 2 months and the online fracker shows order received!

So, after confirming with the Audi dealer that we DEFINITELY are the registered keeper (twice!), we got the letter today from the leasing co that someone else mentioned above that clearly says we're NOT!!

Fortunately our insurance company have not charged us anything to amend the policy, but it's a good job there was no accident/claim in the meantime, could have been a tricky legal situation of who said what!

Seems like a bit of a minor issue, I'll still be happy when I keep in mind that I'm only paying peanuts.

Well ive now got my dealer admitting on an email that "almost every new A4" has this issue and that they need a workshop reset of the "product enhancement package" (whatever that it). Seems they hope the actual issue doesnt appear before the first service and that at the first service they build this reset in.

After all the emissions carry on im stunned they put new cars out there with a fault rather than fix it before they deliver it. They had my car in the dealership for almost a month before they delivered it so plenty time to do the reset.

Then they have the neck to offer me a goodwill gesture of a free Audi umbrella, which they can stick where the sun doesnt shine.......

Had an issue with my parking brake not staying on after i put it on!

Lucky car friend was in the car when i went to get a ticket and pulled the brake on again... scary!

I haven't seen the same issues (yet).
I'd take it in to a dealer, software faults are quite common on a totally new model like this for approx 6 months.

I am in Mexico at the moment but picking mine up on the way home (well Gatwick to Oxford then Devon). #tryingnottowish the holiday away

No bother with ours so far, that sounds really annoying! Get it back to them.

The only annoying thing I've found is that the doors don't close properly unless you slam them - after all these years of telling the kids off for slamming the doors, I'm now telling them they have to slam them to shut them properly!!

Has anyone had issues with parking brake warning lights where it asks you to contact dealer? Also despite the car being at a standstill "engine running warning switch ignition off before leaving car" messages that also makes a warning sound for around 20 secs, does the same at every junction.

Had to get the AA out who told me that Audi know about a software issue affecting A4 that requires a dealer hard reset, they showed me how to soft reset it but today its back again

so a bit cheesed off that after 2 days driving ive got problems. Just wondered how widespead it is

I do not know for sure - but when I have had lease company cars I have never had a v5 and I have had to get a form to take the car abroad. I would guess to tax the car they would need the V5 refrence and as the lease company will be paying the tax that would be another reason for them to retain the document?

I'm really confused by this 'Registered Keeper' business - I fully understand that we're never the owner because it belongs to VW Leasing, and we're renting it from them. But we must definitely be the Registered Keeper, that's surely the point of that title? We've asked the Audi dealer we got it from who has confirmed (after checking with someone else who deals with their insurance) that we are definitely the Registered Keepers, which all adds up, and is what I told out insurance company, but I'm confused by the post above saying we'd need a letter of authority to leave the UK?

Who normally gets the V5, the Owner or the Keeper?

No... Stock everything, including solid paint.

Did you have any custom options? I ordered mine on 26th Jan with no options, build date is now 2nd May.

8th January with York Audi. Official build date is 9th May.

Well I have just done my insurane quote with direct line and comes out about £200 (also get a bit of cashback from quidco) - quite pleased with that - at the start of the process it states that it assumes you are the registered keeper or leasing the car as well as many other options - so no stress with the car being a lease from what I can see

Mine's finally moved into "Preparation" today! Woohoo!

The brilliant Audi Oxford just emailed me back at 21.00 to say that all the forms will be at the dealership for me to sign :smiley:

A question based for those of you who have the cars and ordered this from a dealer direct. I read in an earlier post that Audi finance sent something to home address which needed to be taken to the dealer. I am off on hols soon and hoping due to the distance to pick the car up on the way back from the airport. The dealer has told me things to bring like a recent utility bill and driving licence but just wondered if there was something that got posted that needed to be taken along as if there is I need to come up with a plan b as I won't be able to pick any paperwork up on the way back

Interestingly I got a letter from Audi Finance over the weekend telling me when payments would be taken and there was an Audi Contract Hire Drivers guide booklet with it, whilst again there is no mention of insurance requirements in the booklet (only thing I've found so far is in the contract that says it must be fully comprehensively insured) it does say that if you want to take the car out of the UK, "please ask us for a letter authority - form VE103 - as we are the registered keeper of the vehicle."

You'd think who the owner is and who the registered keeper is would be explicitly stated so people would be sure their insurance isn't potentially void if stated incorrectly on their policy.

Given the ridiculously good deal on this lease and given fuel prices are still relatively low, to be honest the mpg performance isn't a particularly big concern for me.

VWFS (VW financial services) own the car.

The way you need to think of it is the same way you hire a car from Avis, yes its yours, but at some point you hand the car back.

York Audi told me I was the registered keeper - which I think is correct as Audi Finance can hardly be the keeper of it when its sitting on my drive 500 miles from their office

No I don't think so. As I though Dbrown had specced then as an option

You are not the owner or the registered keeper. In both cases it is the lease company.
You are essentially hiring the car for 2 years.

Just a quick thought, for insurance purposes, I know I'm not the owner, but am I the registered keeper? Will I receive the V5 logbook?

Does the car come with heated seats as standard?

Mines not

I had a 1.4 scirocco a few years back. Got an average of about 32 mpg. Much lower than the claimed. All new cars I have owned have got better on their mpg after about 5000 miles. I am not expecting this car to be amazing on mpg but guys you have to get a few miles under the belt before making a judgment

Got mine delivered today and pretty disappointed with the milage so far, barely any higher than an 11 plate A4 i had a few years ago

The Mercedes C Coupe I had in the meantime was supposed to get 68 mpg combined and on the motorway on occassion got to 80mpg so I know what you mean. On average the two years Ive had it the car reached 57mpg so 10mpg less overall. So I also expected the A4 to get more than 53 on motorway only but no one is anywhere near it so far :-(

I know... it's a shame they can't be more accurate. My last 2 cars have got about the quoted average on a good run and quite a lot less in general usage.

Id always ignore quoted MPG figures.. they are done on rolling roads in lab environments.

They dont factor in Doris on her weekly 12mph dash to town, motorway traffic etc

It is extremely rare that a car would have true mpg performance better than its quoted performance. Normally the true performance is significantly lower. I believe there is an ongoing project to revise the way it is tested so the information is actually useful to consumers.

Did a run to birmingham and back - 300+ miles... was 40.9 - but was also stuck in traffic.

I wouldn't stress too much, the engine will need to bed in a bit before you get the best mpg

Oops!

ITS ON THR BOAT!

Its a very competent car. Did a 170 mile trip each way over the weekend and very comfy - noone would every guess its a 1.4, only when pulling away from a roundabout a few times ive found it a tiny bit sluggish, but on the motorway it easily cruises to 100 when your not paying attention!

Received mine this morning, just got back from a quick drive, I like it! Feels very smooth and was surprised at how fast I was going when I looked at my speed a few times! Going to take a while to work out all the buttons and settings but everything seems relatively straight forward and easy to control.

Mine has finally moved from "Order received" to "Preparation".... how long does it normally stay in "Preparation" before it moves onto "Panel shop"?

I got my maths wrong. It's £45 initial payment so c£217 over the 2 years

I just noticed on the quote for Audi Oxford. It mentions maintaince as £156.23 initial and & £7.51 per month. But there is another box for tyre's so basically £328.26 for 1 service and oil top ups There is also a cost of 4p per mile if you go over 20000 miles

Maintenance is £11 a month... and covers tyres inc punctures and service.

Im sure you will do a set of tyres across the 20k miles - and at £260 for the 2 yrs it was a no brainer to me. Even things like when oil needs topping up its covered.

First service is 19k according to the car - so would need to be serviced before it goes back.

I hope thats right as the last A4 I had (11 plate) used technology to decide based on how it was being driven to tell when it needed a service - < 7000 miles it needed the first which left me a bit cheesed off as I felt it more like a money making excerise by Audi

The only difference is we want the A4 to invade the country this time

anyone else whistle the dad's army music when looking at the "in transit" map - I would copy the picture here but I dont know how too!

Mine is being delivered on Monday morning, can't wait!

Just got to sort out the headache of insurance now, insurance on my current car is up at the end of the month but need to insured whilst I sell it but once I get my A4 that will be main car. Do I just change the car on my current insurance and insure my old car elsewhere or do put the A4 on a new insurance policy? Any one got any tips?

They seem to be flying them through once the build starts. I was told worst case June but I'm hoping it'll come in the next couple of weeks.

Do you get your agreement of the finance deal on picking up the car or is it sent in the post prior to collection. I'd hate to turn up and get a nasty surprise that it had changed.

I guess Audi don't do free drive away insurance any more ?

My build week have come forward a week to 9th May. It's driving me mad that some of you have it already!! :smiley:

Left ingolstat :smiley:

Adaptive comes as part of the Tour Assistance Pack.

Hi Stan,
No idea... The spec says cruise control included, and I can't see an option for dynamic so it might be standard.
Anyways my car gets delivered at lunch today so I shall let you know.

I don't think that is a standard option though is it?

Dynamic cruise control is where you set the desired cruise control speed, for example at 70mph.

If you approach somebody driving at 60mph, the car will automatically reduce the speed to maintain a suitable distance.

If the car in front moves, or you pull out to overtake, the car will speed back up to the set speed of 70mph.

Hope this helps

Did anybody decide on Gap Insurance in the end?

No idea whatsoever, just some nonsense he keeps uttering, sorry!!

Nope, nothing! The kids were in there for the first time this evening, took about 20 seconds before one asked in horror where the cup holder was! I swear, they need to get some women on the design panels and focus groups for more cars. It might not be a deal breaker to everyone, but it is for me!

I wondered if there might be cupholders in the centre arm rest in the middle of the back seats? - A few BMW's I have had in the past have had them - That said i wont be using them :wink:

Got ours today from Doncaster Audi - Cheers Peter if you're following this!

Husband is really impressed with the power of the 1.4 engine, the quiet and smooth running, and the dynamic cruise thingy. I like the radio and the fact it's shiny and new, but was gutted to discover there aren't any cup holders in the back :smile:

Absolutely!! These things are important!! :laughing:

Quality control :smiley:

There's been a four week delay on shipping for some if you read other forums. Highly unlikely I'm afraid

Can anyone give me an idea on "assembly" to available to collect - go on holiday on 1st May and it would be great to get the car before hand

53, forget it. Don't think the graph go over 45.

Mid 30's driving like an animal. In the mid 40’s on motorway. It's not a diesel but it's not bad for a 150ps petrol engine.

Assembly!

I ordered mine 15th Jan, its sitting at York Audi now, told them I didnt want it till 22nd April, they are offering to bring it up to Glasgow although I might go collect it myself

We got ours in mid January, can't remember the exact date though

Stan and Dbrown1984, what were your order dates out of interest? My build date has been brought back forward to 2nd May, which is a bit of a relief (until they delay it again!)

I wanted the blue.... but that was £500 more (i think) so about another £20 a month.... no point.

The white does get VERY dirty though. Had plenty of white cars before, but never noticed any of them ever get this dirty this quickly, or show the dirt at any rate.

Would have been more than happy too, now I've a white car coming all I've noticed how many there are on the road.

Snap

Yeah but you would have had to have paid for that

Contacted me yesterday evening, delivery next Thursday.

Looking at pictures if the car now, I wish I'd had gone for Matador Red :disappointed:

paint shop :smiley:

BTW i ordered through Horizon leasing, and it was so damn easy!

Would def recommend them and their service in future. They placed the orders through Stansted Audi who were really good as well.

Mine is there too! Better decide whether to sell the 2.0cdti Astra elite or 1.5dci Qashqai Acenta. Not sure which one to sell. Any one got any advice!?

Mine is in the panel shop :smiley:

Who'd you order through?

Can anyone tell me how to check the build week? Thanks

Apparently our Audi arrived in the country today and should be ready for the weekend. :smile:
Anybody want to buy a 7 year old Lexus?!

Crikey. Any extras? Or standard car?

Oxford Audi - order date 26/01/2016

Who did you order through?

How long from preparation to the next stage?

Not an April fool unfortunately :disappointed:.... I've emailed customer services, not sure what good that will do!

Good news. Mines got heated seats which luckily hasn't delayed it at all

Mine has aswell !!

Mine just went into stage 3 preparation :smiley:

April fool?

Now mine is showing as 27th of June!!!! :disappointed::disappointed::disappointed:

Not yet, although I'm trying to avoid getting it too early as my current lease doesn't go back till the 25th April and no point having two cars for a month.

If I don't hear from them by the middle of next week I'll prob drop them a line so I can hopefully collect it around 18th April

Mine has just reached the UK, now waiting for it to reach the dealer.
Did you get any more info on when yours will be ready?

My build week has been pushed back to 25th April :disappointed:

First few weeks, it returned 29 mpg. Was Not impressed as the tank is small at 45 litres. I started to get range anxiety. Now after a month i can get 41 mpg on my commute. The car is nice apart from the boot opening on its own at night lol.

Yeah i was as average speed would have been 2-3mph for about 45 mins.

Picked up my car folks.... for a 1.4 ... has no right to drive that well!

If your concerned about the power, def don't be! More than enough power for motorway etc. Stuck in stop start traffic for 12 miles, 50 mile journey returned 34mpg - and that was with me forgetting to use the stop/start thing.

Mine is ready for collection today - tried to call and confirm insurance - not open!!

Admiral multi car won't even let me buy online!

All generic.
Brief description of the process, brief video and some have estimated timescales, some don't.

Mine has just left the factory on train and is on it's way to the port, have heard it can take about two weeks to be ready for pick up from this point.

Ive already watched that about 50 times. I found it a couple of months ago just before we put the orders in

http://youtu.be/fyiN4CXdyAc for those of you who have a bit of a wait. Just imagine this on your drive

Mine got to the dealer today :smiley: so tempted to go see it ... but collecting next wed evening due to bank holidays and fleet guys not working weekends.

Actually just checking our messages back and forth. I think my build week was always that week

Stan we should check to see if they have given us the same order number! Is yours white in standard spec too?

I am in the same position "buildWeek":"201615","firstDayOfBuildWeek":"2016-04-11

My build week has been put back a week. Looking at start week of 11th April. How long do you reckon it'll be until I get it from the dealership ?

First day of my build week is 2016-06-13, looks like I'll have to wait until mid July to receive mine!

Think you would need to speak to the finance company before putting any plate on.

I doubt you get the logbook as its in effect like hiring a car from Avis ... just long term.

i could be TOTALLY wrong on this however as ive never leased a car before, picking up my first lease next week!

So we if put on a private number plate will the finance company be the legal owner of the number plate?

I don't think so.... your not the owner, the finance company is.

When you buy a lease car is the log book (v5) in your name?

Thanks for the information kristmace, I had better get my finger out and see if I can arrange to sell my current car by the end of April!

Mine has now arrived in the UK according to the tracker... i best sort out the bloody gap insurance, and then sort out multicar insurance!

Does anyone know how long it takes from build week to actually getting delivery? I could do with knowing so I can arrange to sell my existing car. Thanks

Have you logged into your Audi and then copied the link? It works for me. You get lots of text all over the screen and you are looking at the bottom of this

This link doesn't work for me

I have done nothing about gap yet

Who have you guys bought Gap insurance through?

thinking i cover my **** and get some!

Legend - thanks for this!

Mine is saying 18th April as the first day of build week.

I don't have my order number, I need this to see my order details and build week on the Audi website

My build week is the same (4th April) . I wish they appreciated the extra business I sent their way! I'll be lucky to even have car mats!! I'm £1,000 lighter with no idea how long it's going to take given the delays others have had

Stan, if you get a company car I guarantee there will be loads of people wanting the deal you got. If they take it on you should get your deposit back

2016-04-25 for me. Probably looking at May/June sometime for delivery I guess.

I have first day of build week 2016-04-11 - Just applied for a job with a company car as well - this could get tricky! - Ordered from Audi Oxford

I've managed to see the build week, even though it's not displayed online. Log in to the YourAudi section of the site and then click this link. It brings up the page code of your order. The build week is at the very bottom.

https://www.audi.co.uk/myaudi-public-api/services/v1/orders

I ordered mine with the lease company about a month ago. Build week currently displays as 16th May 2016, so a while yet.

Mine was ordered last week and I'm still waiting for Audi to get back to regarding the 'build week'

Progresses quickly so I wouldn't worry.
They're built within a few days, mines just in inspection which can apparently last a week.

When did you order yours?

Damn... Mine's still in the order received stage. Don't think it'll be here for April as they originally said.

How much does Audi charge for gap insurance on this car?

Used the Audi thing online... my car is in quality control stage :smiley:

Get them to match this deal

http://www.vehiclesforbusiness.co.uk/personal-lease-cars/audi/a4-saloon/14t-fsi-sport-4dr-67218127

Best deal you'll get now is 1x £1,129 followed by 23x £188

Same. It'll be a long wait for the next batch

If you get an order number you can track it on the Audi website.

Is this deal still on? Or with any Audi dealer that may still give this/similar deal?

Well good luck - I went through audi direct - dont think mine will be being built until April

Did you do your deals with Audi dealer or the one that this post relates too? Mine was via Audi Oxford based on Dbrown's recommendation

I had to sign an order form, admin fee will be taken now and the deposit after delivery. It didn't say anything about delivery date in the order form but over the phone I have been told mid May / June. I will ask them about an order number.

I haven't had anything official yet confirming the finance deal or order in writing. I guess it's a matter of waiting in the dark for a while until nearer the time. I did get an order number after phoning up for one however there isn't a build date showing at the moment although mine is pointing to starting it's build first week of April

I'm the same. They've taken the admin fee, and said all other details would be coming later and that I needed to be patient.

They did say that it could be delivered as early as the end of March, so that's a positive.

Deals been pulled now, whoever got it owes me some beers :wink:

Just for info the lady at ridgeway said it was the last day today. Horizon who I was looking at have pulled their deal as well and said that there was a chance that if I went for the more expensive deal there was no guarantee if the car didn't make June delivery

10000 per year and hopefully may/June. Said on the phone tonight could be may Maybe I will see Dbrown picking his up at the same time I hear atomic burger is good in Oxford

Thanks to Dbrown - I think I just got one ordered at the same deal he got - Thanks for your Help

Smart insurance is approximately £164-£200 depending on who you go with

Great congratulations.

what does it cover... and how much??

Is any one tempted to get smart repair insurance. I'm tempted given that Audi will charge you for any visible dents seen on a 2 metre visual arch. I would hate to get charged hundreds of pounds at the end of the lease?

It's from Ridgeway Oxford. I guess any of the sales people could do it

I got the deal I mentioned above today. No problems. I have Started anew thread to spread the word !

I spent hours trying to find a dealership to do it. Most of them were about £1,000 more than the original V4B deal. I got £937.44+ £156.24 with no fees inc VAT. That's better than the V4B advertised deal by a bit. I'll PM you now

Why has this been closed?

Could some one explain how the gap insurance works. Are you liable for the difference between the pay out and cost of car of its written off or would I just be liable for the monthly payments, e.g in my case 156x23??

Deal I got is from an Audi dealership

I just called V4B and they don't have any.

Dbrown1984, where did you get this from? I could not find your thread.

Where is the new thread?

Did you get it thorugh Vehicles for Business or your local Audi dealer?

Is this deal still available?

Anyone noticed that all the websites are pretty much the same? Lings being the exception

I'm looking to order one tomorrow directly with Audi. I'm going to go for the £937.44 followed by 23 X £156.24 deal. If I succeed it'll be £4,530.96 over the term. £188.79 per month would be bargain, even if you're against the idea of leasing! I'll update tomorrow

I hope you get it still - The lease company I spoke to today which I have asked to do the deal with and is more expensive said that all the cars on that deal had been allocated - that said I guess they wouldnt say go somewhere else they still have some lower - the other thing is though they were supposed to ring me back at the end of the day with confirmation and they have not

Did anybody get this offer?
I have put my name down but am waiting on them getting back to me apparently a big back log due to so many enquireys.

Well if anyone knows anyone who is still doing the deal please let me know - I have emailed off for a couple of quotes but looking in the ball park of £161.40 incl VAT monthly rentals £1452.60 incl VAT initial rental which is still a good deal if I can get it but not as good as the original post on here. I dont need one now as have car to sell but if I could get it sooner or later no issues - just need it before June.

Thanks for the review - I am moving from a 2013 Z4 m sport not as quick as the 911 but nice with the roof down - apparently its my turn to have a sensible car while the Mrs has something sporty!

Have you considered that you dont really need a cd player? - if you have a iphone or google phone it has car play (or the google equivalant) so your phone display will come up on the screen and you will be able to access the music and some apps from your phone on the screen -

Ta for the review... I'm coming down to it from a 911 turbo - speed comparison thing isn't a concern :smiley:

Mine was from Audi Warrington, and it was the only one left they could access, hence why I had to choose black rather than my preferred option of white, but not that bothered with that.
First impressions of the car, are that Im very impressed. It super smooth, super comfortable inside, with more controls than Ive figured how to use yet. Reasonably quick, but not as responsive as I thought from the get go - more a gradual build up of acceleration (although Im yet to try it in dynamic mode yet), and like ron2256 says, its deceiving that you are going faster than you think and only really notice when you check the speedo.
The only slight downside Ive found so far was that its only a single player CD player, and the CD player itself is in the glovebox so no changing of CDs whilst on the move (prob deliberate as a safety thing).
I'll try and add a bit more once Ive had the car a bit longer and really got used to it, and all the controls

Got mine yesterday. £5500 total over two years on 3 +23 deal. Mine comes with added heated wing mirror from a main dealer. The ride is very comfortable and silent too. It doesn't feel quick at all until you check your speedo that is. The interior is very nice and even nicer at night with all the soft white lights. I just need to sell my old car now.

Got my car today.
Went to my local Audi dealer, and Im paying around £200 more over the whole term than the cheapest deal Ive seen on here, but it was offset with the fact they located 1 car that was available rather than waiting til April. Had to get it in black, rather than my marginally preferred white, but not really that fussed about that.
Full costs for me were around £1600 up front, plus £147 x 23.

My local deal quote 195£ a month and £250 on pcp no where near this deal. would like to here what the cars like!
Hopefully ring the company tomorrow and finalise an order!

Me too. I had no luck at my local dealer :disappointed:

Quite few have confirmed orders, tho apparently the A4 deals at various places have now been pulled.

No reason other than the offer came up on my Facebook sponsored Ads feed. I think some people tried their local dealer but they weren't doing that offer. The basic offer was the £184/month 8k annual mileage £2090 initial deposit no broker fee.

I got a few quotes for a couple of cars and entered the details into a spreadsheet to get a better idea of total cost.

It helped especially when i was looking at the new Octavia deal and they originally quoted me on 8k miles but i need 25k. Quickly picked out that after they have re-quoted me that it worked out cheaper to take the 8k quote and pay the excess. Highlighted this to the broker and they agreed the best way was to take the lower mileage.

I went for the A4 Avant with Horizon in the end and put the paperwork in yesterday as i had an email from the company yesterday morning say that the deal was being pulled at 3pm due to the high demand so it kind of pushed me into it.

Got told that the vehicle will be ready for end of April / early May but had a phone call earlier this evening saying that the dealer the car is ordered through wont be ready until June so the broker has sorted it through another dealer in York for delivery early April at the same deal. Now just have to wait for Audi to transfer the finance over to the new dealer so hoping no problems there.



Anyone who wants my quick spreadsheet can get it here.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49GGpnD-ZiUcjJLdlZoT0QyUmM/view?usp=sharing

Looks like this has gone now. I snoozed and loozed!

Thats the bit i wasnt sure about either.

Think ill speak to the dealer and confirm, maybe i need to get insurance to cover all the payments im due to make and the rest of the risk sits with the leasing company as long as i fulfil my commitment to pay the £5k im supposed to.

Yes that's correct.
My total repayments are £4730. I asked the question .... the cover of £5000 includes the 'initial rental' of £1510 so would I get this back if the car was written off? The answer was 'no' because the GAP insurance only would pay the shortfall of 'payments'. The initial payment has already been paid to the dealer so it can only be covered for £35 on a separate policy.
HTH

Can i just ask.. the £63 quote - that was for £5k cover right, your total exposure?

Thats a great price n the gap insurance - almost a no brainer really!

Never leased a car before, so this really is a learnign curve!

Yes, I was quoted £180 for the 2 years but after reading that article I don't think I would bother with it. Thanks again!

Thank you very much troytempey0. Did you bother with the cover for repairing alloy wheels and minor paint scuffs, stone chips etc.....?

Troytempey0
Where did you get the Gap quote from?

Yes, it is on 5000 miles but with an excess charge of 7.2p/mile including VAT it worked out cheaper than the 8K & 10K deals on offer. I expect to do 5K/year or at most 6K.
I put it all down on a spreadsheet to work it out for me. If you have been looking at leasing and comparing quotes/offers you will know what I mean when I say that all the numbers can get a bit confusing.

Yes, it is on 5000 miles but with an excess charge of 7.2p/mile including VAT it worked out cheaper than the 8K & 10K deals on offer. I expect to do 5K/year or at most 6K.
I put it all down on a spreadsheet to work it out for me. If you have been looking at leasing and comparing quotes/offers you will know what I mean when I say that all the numbers can get a bit confusing.

Is that based on 5k?

What mileage? A fantastic deal for the Avant nonetheless.

Agreed it's a lot of car for the money and the lease price will definitely go up soon
I went with Stable Vehicle Contracts in the end. Great to deal with and unlike some others you do not pay their fee until delivery.
Agreed on £1510 initial rental, £240 fee and £140 for 23 months for Audi A4 Avant due end March/early April.
£4970 all in, happy with that :laughing:
Gap quoted at £63 one off payment :sunglasses:
£120 extra insurance premium though :disappointed:

Went to see the A4 at dealer yesterday ... its a lot of car for the money!

Weird seat material (well in the S line), but hey... i can live with it!!

Ive been told mid April delivery for my avant.

Sorted mine out this afternoon through the company in the OP. Excellent to deal with, and sorted the finance quickly.

Price has risen slightly, but is still an excellent deal, and no other lease deals (including main dealers) can get close.

£1018 up front then £169 a month is what I've agreed.

I called to try a test drive this but they don't have any. I asked if there were any other cars with engine but the chap sais that the 1.4 TFSI which this one has is especially designed for the car and that they are only just ordering them in from factory. Shame.......I guess I'll just to like it or lump it.

SPeaking of lumping it, can you change your mind with these sorts of things? ie 14 day cooling off period etc? Ta :smiley:

Any more people actually driven this car yet??

although the finance company owns the car, in most cases the "leaser" will be the 'registered keeper', so i think insurance will need to reflect this (or run the risk of a void policy).

you could check with the broker, just tell them you need the info for insurance quotation purposes. If the finance company is also the registered keeper then you could get away with it

i think whether you chose PCP or PCH, the cost of motoring is still pretty relative in that there is still depreciation and that someone somewhere is making a profit. If you want to change your car every few years at a reasonable price for a new one then PCH is probably the easiest solution, unless you have loads of equity in an existing PCP deal.

PCP can sometimes work out better (not monthly cost, but the overall cost if you factor in depreciation) if you somehow get a massive discount off the list price (e.g. if you go into a dealership when a rep needs to hit an end of year target), but since dealers get hefty discounts for bulk buying you will almost certainly be better with PCH.

Hope that makes sense, glad to help.

the quote of £400 a month will be PCP and not PCH i would imagine.
with PCP, whether a dealer can come close usually depends on which branch, and the time of the month/year, whether they "speak to their manager" etc. with PCH, each branch will use the same brokers, so the price should be pretty consistent.

the difference between the brokers Audi will use and the broker this deal is from i.e. vehiclesforbusiness, is they operate on smaller margins. In turn, these brokers will likely be used by dealers (i.e. a company that will buy 50 Audi 1.4 TSI's at £8k off list price, to lease) that also demand a smaller margin. This is why there are great deals such as this.

i have just ordered a 330e M Sport and BMW couldn't get within £100 a month of the price I got. However, a few years back, Mercedes matched a PCP quote i got online and even threw in some factory extras. It really does just depend.

RE handing the car back early, probably not worth any penalties you will face. You will almost certainly need to keep it for the full term.

p.s. i don't think he is responding to the wrong post...with a PCH deal, you are not the registered owner of the vehicle, the finance company is. Some insurance companies don't enjoy this for some reason (i.e. Churchill) and some couldn't care less (the majority).

you will also need GAP insurance with a lease, which is about £100 over a 3 year term

Question on insurance, as the finance company owns the car, does it matter who insures it?

Ie, if I bought a car for my mum (she is retired and prob wouldn't pass credit check as no income) could she insure it for her use, or would I have to as I'm paying for it?

Thanks but I think you are replying to the wrong post lol

All these deals can be got from Doncaster Audi who wont charge the fee and you get main dealer service.

I appreciate all that and am in no way against lease deals and know exactly how they are beneficial and make financial sense to lots of people/situations, in actual fact I regularly comment how some of them really are good vfm. Plus we have 4 leased vehicles we use for our business. My original reply was (as I explained) in the context of what the OP originally said about a £1500 run a bout.

Having said all that, it's not very difficult to buy a 'run about' for £1500 that will last a couple of years without any serious maintenance costs and then be able to sell it for near to what was paid. I have done that myself many times over the years. I suppose it all boils down to what you class as a run a bout. Personally to me that means a car sat there for the odd short journey here and there, a few thousand miles a year, not one you would use for a daily commute.

Anyway, the deal posted here is good vfm if this is the sort of car/mileage you want, which is why I voted it hot.

no offense to you personally 'topss' but a lot of people forget that when you buy a second hand car you will not have brand new tyres, new discs and pads, or 10-30k miles (depending on manufacturer) until a service is due, etc, etc.

With this deal, you will not need to change discs or pads unless you drive like an idiot, you may not need a service (not sure about Audi, but BMW's service interval is 30k for petrol and 36k for diesel engines). You may not even need to change a tyre depending on how the car is driven. Insurance will be approx 20% cheaper as it is a new vehicle with parts still in production (this could save circa £10 a month). There is no tax to pay which is likely to save circa £20 a month depending on the 'runabout'. There is no MOT (£40 a year). There are no repairs to consider (this could go into £££'s depending on your misfortune). Fuel economy is likely to be far superior to a 'runabout'.

If you put pen to paper and be realistic, you will find that the true cost of motoring is very comparable with many lease deals. Over 2 years with this deal, I think the overall cost of motoring would be very similar to buying a 'runabout' unless you got very lucky.

Plus, you have 2 years of trouble free motoring - you cannot put a price on convenience.

Could you guys explain/link the relevant cover which 'maintaenance' provides. Hear you saying punctures, so if you hit a nail they'll replace the tyre for 'free'? I mean, what is there to maitain on a BNIB car?

Also, where is the info RE servicings? :smiley:

aha :smiley:

Ive done maintenance as then i know I'm covered.... and agreed, the PPM seems to drop to 4p when taking maintenance as opposed to 8p when not!

Can anyone recommend a GAP insurance company please?

I rang and asked they said the £159 was suffice because the parts needed for the full one wouldn't be due at 10k miles if you chosen at 5k PA or 20k at 10k PA

Maintenance is a tricky one (do you gamble?), but i have it on my other car (Tiguan) and it is well worth the money - i had a puncture and the tyre was replaced after 1500 miles (£130+) and i will potentially get 2 services in over 2 years as i have a 15kpa contract.
Peace of mind for £294 over the term of the contract is a no brainer for me - only £10.14pm on 6+23
Plus, if i do over the 10kpa, xs mileage is only 4p extra for maintenance, so i'm not overly worried if all 4 tyres go and it needs an extra service

i don't see the point of paying extra for maintenance, you are going to pay one service at £159 if done at audi, and most likely tyres won't need replacing. if your safe enough driver then its worth not taking it out.

Order went in too...

My order is in too - finance all approved. 6+23 inc full maintenance, delivery end of april

Just set the wheels in motion. They said on the phone that they have about 100 'reserved slots', and have had over 300 enquiries in 24 hours. I am not sure whether this means that only 100 people will get this deal............

Ok...

So have fiddled with the offer more and confirmed order:

Audi A4 Avant 1.4
10k per annum

Car:
1 x £633 upfront
23 x £211

Maintenance:
£34 up front
£11.74 per month after

Fees are £180

Total cost of ownership for 2 yrs is £5,790.

NOTE: I have no options on the car bar what it came with.

Horizon leasing... someone posted the link a few pages back.

Delivery is currently for March/April when i spoke to them on friday.

If you went for this how long before you could get the car? I saw April mentioned somewhere? Also any deals like this on an A3?

I see the word leaseplan mentioned on their website - I wouldn't have any hesitation in buying from a leaseplan company as they are massive - they operate a lot of company schemes so I'm guessing these two brands are aimed at slightly different personal/SME types.

Cheaper here - bigger down payment though....
http://www.fleetsauce.co.uk/offers/audi-a4-1-4t-fsi-sport-4dr/187

Yep totally agree. On my quote/agreement sent from the broker they want £250 for the same cover ...mad if you pay that.

no brainer getting gap i thought it was a lot higher... the amount dealers sell it for :confused:

Yep 2 years one off payment. Most insurances replace a new car like for like in first 12 months I checked with Churchill).

oh k thats price for 2 years? thats pretty good... for piece of mind i'd be tempted to take for 7500. remember insurance give you the market value in a couple of years the streets will be flooded with these

Make sense thanks, thankfully mine was on a low deposit (£800). I was looking to see if someone has been through the whole insurance claim following a write-off/theft and whether gap insurance was actually necessary. It sounds like a bit of a gamble to me, but wasn't sure if the individual would be liable for the difference between market value of the car vs. insurance pay-out or liable for the remaining payments on the lease vs insurance pay-out (if that makes sense??).

Yes it's £63 which covers the shortfall between the insurance payout and what is owed (up to £5000) the next amount of cover was £7500 for £80 but I was told I didn't need this and £5000 is sufficient.

no i don't the to cover the rental i meant to cover the cost of the car incase it was stolen or written off, the gap should cover the difference between whats owed and what the insurance give you

How much is gap roughly to cover the 2 years?

is it a reputable company?

Thanks for that info. I did speak to a GAP insurer yesterday and they said the same but as you say some offer a policy now for £35 to cover your first payment

I spoke to a GAP insurer yesterday to get advice from the proper people as I too have had people saying 'put down as little as possible' or 'put down more so your payments are less'.
What happens is that once you have paid that deposit (3, 6, 9 or 12 months first payment) thats it - gone.
Thats ok if you carry on through the term of the lease and the car isn't stolen & not recovered or written off.
If that happens normal gap insurance pays the shortfall between what the market value & the full value of the car (I think it covers the lost lease payments too).
However you money that was put down at first is lost.
So if that happened after 3 months and you put £2400 down then it is lost and you have effectively paid £800 more per month while you have had the car :-(
But if you only put £600 down then it has effectively cost you an extra £200/month
Now some GAP insurers offer a policy for £35 one off payment that covers your deposit so if you pay a high deposit then this is well worth considering.
Thing is not everyone can get a low deposit lease as I believe it depends on your credit rating.

I hope this info helps, may not be the best explanation but you should get a basic understanding?

I am very tempted by this deal. I wonder if the experts could give me some help as I have a few questions.

1. Is a dealer likely to match a deal on this? I am sure I have seen posts on other lease deals suggesting this could happen. The reason being is that I have a car that I want to trade in and don't want to go through the hassle of selling privately (I am lazy). The car I am trading in will be well above the value of the deposit so I would be looking for cash back from the dealer (which will pay the monthly costs probably) - I did ask about this when we got my wifes care on PCP and they were prepared to do this at the Nissan dealers

2. What happens if you don't need the car part way through the 2 years? The reason I ask is there may be a situation where I get a company car within the 2 years. If I did it would be a no cash alternative. If you wanted to hand the car back would there be a partial refund or is it just a case of keeping it until the end?

I am familiar with pcp and I know it's very different to leasing as my wife has a car on pcp

Out of interest did you miss out financially when it was written off? And did you have gap insurance? I'm after some real world experience / advice

They're £27k list price and looking around AutoTrader they seem to be worth around £16k after 2 years for low mileage, so the £5k cost of ownership over two years is less than depreciation.

Obviously this may be an old model and there might be deals out there for new/pre-registered etc, but not a bad deal if you're in the market for a car like this. If you bought one and intended to sell it within 2 years you'd be mad to not lease it and leave your money in the bank (or somewhere else you might get a return).

I go for whatever works out best for me at the time, I almost went for the A4 lease deal posted last week, however when I got insurance quotes they were coming in at over £900, yet when I put I owned the car it was £350.

Also I need to have a car 100% of the time, so in two years I didn't want to be at the point where I was having to spend loads of time lookings for the next lease deal and hoping it was ready the same time.

If the A4 deal was 36 months and insurance hadn't bumped up, I would've gone for it.

7.2p per mile.

I mean, to buy, an April delivery date would be ideal. Anyone know the pence per mile excess, I have sent them an email no response. I guess no one is in on a Sunday.

Been doing some thinking as I could well be in need of a new car in the next week or two. This seems like a cracking deal for the car you get with options etc.

But you know what they say, if it's too good to be true.......

It is strange how the VW emissions scandal hasn't affected Audi's desirability or sales figures in the UK.

​And he'd be stuffed if no-one bought new;-)

Yes that's what it is.

VAG leased cars tend to have the total of the lease term on your credit report. I know Peugeot finance have the total cost of the car on you credit file. So it varies between the finance companies.

All I can say is that mine wasn't and neither were a few colleagues. Credit reports said the whole value of the car was set against me. Perhaps it depends on who you lease from?
Some info here
http://budgeting.thenest.com/vehicle-lease-show-credit-report-25563.html
I did think it would show what I paid and how many payments but was quite surprised when the full amount was shown as owing.

You're the lease guru, no really I think you are :smiley:

I'm thinking of going a bit mad and getting a BMW i3, not sure whether to lease or not. I'd think I'd lease but there don't appear to be any attractive deals about. Obviously I'm not with all of my faculties wanting such a car, so would appreciate some helpful advice.

I'm bored with the Golf MK6 I have (first world problem exemplified), 35,000 miles 1.4TSI, must be worth around £5-£6K. I was thinking of selling it and leasing. This deal is probably a lot wiser than the BMW i3.

I also have an FTO for messing about in and going faster, although an A6 Avant comfortably kept up with me yesterday, then again the FTO is 22 years old and cost me £800.

Asked this question before but nobody replied, I've never had credit and always paid cash, but these days you can't get any decent discounts for cash, would I still be eligible for these deals?

Isn't that one of those microeconomic concepts that fails to recognise that most goods get cheaper as time goes by? :stuck_out_tongue:
Find me one economist who predicted last years US interest rate rise correctly at the *start of the the year* and I might start to believe the **** that most economists come out with :smirk:

I would assume (given it doesn't say anywhere fuel is included) that the point was the new car would be more fuel efficient and that could offset the cost. At some point I guess the newer car could work out cheaper, if it weren't for the excess mileage costs :smiley:


Probably a good thing as it's a rapidly depreciating asset. If you were to buy the same car and sell it two years later I suspect you'd soon wish you didn't own it :smile:

There's always this fixation on "you don't own it" when lease deals come up. But no one ever addresses why its a good thing to own a depreciating asset. Decide how long you will keep it and then calculate the cheapest means to do so. Wether that be beg, borrow, buy or steal :smile: (ignore the last one obviously).


But if you're not clever (car savvy) or even "unlucky" you might not.

Ultimately you know what you're in for with the lease. I guess for the banger one could assume worst case you're in for your initial outlay (£1500) as you can always scrap it and buy another. And you'd have to be unlucky (or not very clever) to end up with two duds in a row.

There is always the inconvenience/time factor. We've owned a couple of cars from new for 10 years (low annual mileage, so not worth changing). When they get older and things start to go wrong it does become a chore (seals, lights, trim, AC, battery, etc). And as a tool of convenience it starts to detract from its usefulness to you.


I'm not generally someone that's pro lease. As I've said in the past we've owned a couple of cars for 10 years. I've usually found pre-reg or other deals work out cheaper (especially as I like a few options). But when the facts change one should be ready to take another look and change their opinion.

The truth is with the advent of extremely cheap credit (which large companies can access and pass on in order to shift their metal), some lease deals have been very competitive. Its probably still cheaper to buy a £1500 "banger", but you could rubbish any deal on here by comparing to a 10 year old alternative. Why buy a new TV when you could likely go down to your local skip and grab one for free :smiley:.

Good deal on the Avant that.

It's a standard personal contract plan through Ford, I pay slightly more because my credit rating wasn't great but my point is that loads of people buy into these whilst being scared of leasing but it now seems to me that leasing a new high end car is much better value.

Excellent Lease deal for 10k per year, good find Op, Hot

a) The cheapest option of all would be to sit at home and never travel anywhere, but making comparisons between this and owning a car is pointless.
b) Cycling is not a viable option for most people, and even when cycling is a viable option, most people would still be willing to pay a premium to shorten their commute time and travel in comfort.
c) Whilst for many the primary function of a car is to transport oneself from A to B, many people derive pleasure from owning a car and driving, which again means they are willing to pay a modest premium.
d) Some people have good paying jobs which, rightly or wrongly, allows them to afford the above luxury.
e) Many of the miles driven by those same people that have good paying jobs are for business reasons, the fuel cost of which is reimbursed by their company.
f) In general, I have my doubts over about your comprehension of the principle of opportunity cost.

Also generally ticking the options box starts to make these deals far less favourable. The vast majority of options will be fully depreciated over the term of the lease. In other words you will pay the full cost of the option, plus the cost of financing that amount over the term.

So say you add a £2k worth of options, you'll pay an extra £2k (plus the cost to borrow that £2k) over the 2 years. You can see how ticking a few options can end up costing as much as leasing the car in the first place :/ The dealer/company that owns the car will probably love you, as they'll then get a nicely loaded car to sell on (of course when it comes to selling the car on, those options are now worth something again :smiley:).

There are some exceptions of course, but these companies aren't stupid. If any option makes a car more desirable (worth more/depreciate less), they'll usually stick it on in the first place. Hence you'll sometimes see S-Line/AMG/M-Sport cheaper to lease then the standard dressed version, despite RRP being 5/10% more for the tarted up version.

If you are likely to tick away on the option list, consider comparing with pre-reg/nearly new.

Are you strongly against people buying new cars? People do buy new cars so what's your position on that?

That's a great price for the A4 B9, it's similar story with the Q3.
Typical that I bought a low mileage A4 B8 yesterday.

Don't forget than when you lease the whole of the cost of the car is set against you in your credit rating.

On top of that, it's what YOU appear to want so as far as I'm concerned, you're just sharing a deal for the benefit of others and don't need to justify your reasons for choosing this over a runabout.

It never ceases to amaze me how some people on HUKD challenge others on whether they should choose something they want as opposed to commenting on how a deal compares to similar deals. That's why when sharing deals, it's best to say, "Here's the deal I'm sharing; do with it what you wish," else it will trigger these painful debates that we've all no doubt seen every single time car deals, smartphone deals, tablet deals, computer deals, etc come out.

What's the pence per mile over the limit?

Used were £26k? For a car with an otr price of £26.8k? Madness.

Carwow quoted £21.5k a few days ago.

I've never leased but the figures speak for themselves. I bought a 3 year old Fiesta from Ford, paid £1000 deposit and 36 x £142, after three years I give it back or buy it for £4000. I will be leasing at the end of the term and will get a brand new and much nicer car for about the same amount of money. It's a no brainer. If you're in the market for an old banger or you keep a car for its entire life then clearly it's not for you.

Cheaper than used, coast2coast and drive the deal were around £24k, used were £26k. If I could've found one used for £20k I would've bought it.

I've been on both sides of the fence with the lease v used car debate. I'm now starting to veer towards the used car argument.

If you do want a new car and that's all you want (I fundamentally disagree with the rationale, but that's a separate debtae), then, yes, a good lease offer can make sense rather than buying from main dealer brand new. The only other option I would consider here is going for a pre-reg, or going to somewhere like Drive The Deal who often have great deals on brand new cars.

That being said, let's take OP's circumstance as an example. He was looking to spend circa 1.5k on a runaround and will now spend, at best, £4700 on a different car. Of course, the 1.5k car wouldn't have actually cost him 1.5k as he would have offset the cost by selling back to the second-hand market.

My argument for buying second hand is that you can actually pick up some really good motors with low mileage, unusual owners (i.e. they keep it exceptionally clean, do low mileage etc) for you to take advantage of their depreciation. Now if OP scours Autotrader, he might pick up a nice 10 plate Titanium X Mondeo, for instance, fully loaded, for around £5500-£6000 (I was recently looking at one priced at 5.7k).

This, in all likelihood, would give him everything he wanted and more - nice-looking car, good extras, much more than just a runaround. But crucially, he could retain most of his capital in that car by selling it back whenever he wanted to.

Old model or new (they look almost the same)?

Why are people referring to £20k for this car, I looked for a couple of weeks and couldn't find one. They are actually cheaper through a broker new at the moment.

Don't forget all Audi's come with the option of driving 2 inches behind the car in front as standard...

Great deal
I sold a lexus to put the money into a new house. bought a volvo that was mint for 600. A year later I worked out petrol, service, mot, tax, breakdown cost me £210pm over 10k. It didn't need any consumables or breakdown (£500 mot was painful) so I can't see how you could get cheaper bangernomics?
Now have brand new nissan leaf on lease which costs me £210pm Inc deposit - no mot, tax, bills. Fuel (electric!) is about £20pm. Ok a electric car might not be for everyone but do the maths.

I was expecting the 1.4 to be woefully underpowered in a car this size but reading the specs it's actually quite decent.

How do optional extras work do you have to pay the full amount for them up front or is it recalculated into the monthly cost?

How about servicing, some of these deals insist you get a dealer service once every 12 months, so you'd need to factor that into the cost.

I wonder what happened after 2 years? Do you need to give it back in a really good conditions? Will dealer actually be very picky about the conditions? Like you cannot have any dirts in interior or dents/scratches on the car body?

Ive never leased a car before, so this is new to me, but i figure if i went and spent £20k on a car, what would i expect to get back after 2 yrs - £15k perhaps?

i currently pay £250 a yr road tax (or similar) plus MOT's at £30 - that stops, so take £600 off the total rental cost say.

On top of this my current mondeo (which i do love!) gets about 25mpg round town, this should be a whole heap better (maybe 40mpg) - that works out roughly £900 a yr in fuel, so £1800 over the 2 yrs.

That represents £2400 saving over my current car, without including any costs that an aging car will potentially need. So all in its costing me £1k a yr (very rough figures here) to have a brand new car.

I'm sorry, but this is an amazing deal - simple as that.

​what sort of insurance do you have to pay out of interest, looking for a lease but uming and aring a lot. is insurance a lot more and do you have to have gap insurance? what does it cost?

I agree with this OP,

Its worth sitting down for an hour with a notepad and paper. It can be a false illusion that getting a new car can save you money (of course if you want a new car, then it would be irrelevant anyway)

As topps pointed out - is your current Mondeo costing you £1700 a year in repairs/tax? I know the tyres on mondeos can be expensive (mine are 18" and cost around £150 each for decent ones).

Remember, this will be £1300 up front (the cost of a very large repair bill - new engine?) + £142 a month every month for 2 years (the cost of a service every month). But the upside is you will have a new car parked outside.

Choose wisely bro :sunglasses:

The standard service £159 Audi. Also wanted to ask if you replace one tyre does it have to be same brand ?

not bad

5000 p.a. thats like leasing a car for the school run or weekend shop!

Ohh.. think i prefer the estate... looks nicer too in my eyes

Also good shout re adding maintenance, ill ask about that esp if it covers tyres then one less thing to worry about

Hi DollyBoy, Can I ask why is the lower upfront payment preferred? Is a 6+23 better than 9+23? thanks

Question: Is it better to put the higher deposit down and pay less/month?
6+23 or 9+23
Just thinking ...if I sold my car for £2500 should I do the lower deposit or the higher one which saves you a few pounds over the lease.
Any thoughts?

Stable Vehicle Leasing is good if you do 5000/year
http://www.stablevehiclecontracts.co.uk/audi-a4-avant-leasing
On a 6+23 deal with £240 admin fee the totat True Cost is £213/month

If you don't do 10000 miles/year you could look at this site as its cheaper
[url=http://www.stablevehiclecontracts.co.uk/audi-a4-avant-leasing[/url]

It cheaper with Horizon Vehicle Leasing by £645 - The Estate with them is only £170inc VAT and less fee's too

http://www.horizonvehicleleasing.co.uk/personal-lease-cars/audi/a4-estate/a4-avant-14t-fsi-sport-5dr-59983975

The BVRLA fair wear and tear policy is also worth looking at as most reputable leasing companies are members. This also states tyres to be road legal, as mentioned.

Is this a typo on annual mileage at 10k?

Stonker of a deal, if it was the avant I'd be all over it

What about tyres when you give it back? Do they just have to have the legal tread or do we need to give a new set back?

Where is the link?

The fair wear & tear guide from audi is available here.

Very good deal for the car, equivalents from BMW and Mercedes will be closer to £300pm, it won't last.

Avant is £40 more a month as car is abut £1300 more initially :disappointed:

Very much so... i get the whole 'but you dont own it' argument, then that person goes to the bank to borrow the money to buy a car so they can 'own' it!

New cars depreciate hugely, leasing means you get to have a new car without that risk and a budget from the outset.

I like cars, and have wasted £££'s on them - this is almost self policing, with a 2 yr least im stuck with the car!

I added heat. I will never buy a car again myself while you can get good lease deals that are posted here. It's difficult for people ( as it was for me) to get there head around leasing even when a balance sheet is screaming logic to you!

Agreed, im doing £980 upfront and then £150(ish) a month - same overall, but feels better laying out less up front time value of money wise prob a saving there too!

Ah yes, the current deal on CVL has large upfront, I got it a few months ago when it was smaller upfront payments 6+23 @ £222, similar overall cost but I prefer smaller upfront payments after my M135i lease car was written off 5 months through its lease in 2014.

203 per month( 32*141)+360/24=203

I saw that scirocco deal ... was tempted by it but large upfront put me off, and i also need something practical i realised!

Similar to my situation, an Elise for the weekends, leasing an Octavia VRS estate for the other half and the dog, and leasing a Scirocco R for commuting. The Scirocco wouldn't be my first choice, but it was a good deal and it's nice enough.

£360 processing fee too.

So more like £203.78 pm. Not such a good deal as first seems....

If someone wants a used car, they should buy a used car.

However if someone wants to a new car, leasing can often be the most cost efficient method. As lease deals go this looks very good, assuming an Audi A4 is your kind of thing.

Total is 4718 which is more like 196 per month. Doesnt seem like the great deal you are quoting at the start

​The 142 you're paying a month for this does not include fuel so this is clearly more expensive.
Also you don't actually own the car, so there's that.
Also, if you buy clever for 1500 you can definitely get something that does not require an average of 140 a month worth of work on it.
Also, have you been able to tell I'm strongly against car leases.

Fuel/Insurance - can't really include that in the £140. After all the brand new lease car also needs both of those on top of it's £142 pm.

Other than the above, I would be very surprised/disappointed if most £1500 cars cost almost £1700 in additional costs for a year, but I'm sure there are some.
I was only making the point in the context of the OP's comment.

Great deal and the cheapest around at the moment. But there have been lots of recent deals similar to this from other leasing companies that are now being pulled as the 'offer allocation' is dwindling. If you are interested in this I wouldn't hang around too long making a decision.

Ignoring the deal for a minute, it does seem an expensive option to a £1500 run-a-bout. Would you really expect £140+ of running costs pm?