OLED is the best thing since Panasonic Plasma.regular LED LCDs are just a waste of time.
I will wait until next year for prices to fall down further though.
"No other display tech can outdo OLED on black-level performance, period."
"With an OLED TV like the LG 55EC930V, where else to start but to comment on its otherworldly, 0 cd/m2 blacks whose impact on even the most mundane of viewing cannot be overstated. When paired with 2.4 gamma (painstakingly attained through 20-point white balance tweaks), it lent a formidable scale of richness and depth to whatever was displayed on screen, eclipsing even the best plasmas."
" If you have £2,000 to spend, and absolutely have to buy a new TV at this time of writing, then the LG 55EC930V deserves a place on your audition shortlist."
Max Damage
26 Dec 152#2
I want to replace my Panasonic Plasma and only OLED matches it. However I have read to many issues with this one being an early model and will wait a bit yet for them to iron out the issues at the right price
SFP_NooDLe to Max Damage
26 Dec 152#3
You're getting a six year guarantee. Any potential problems you have will be fixed for free up until you buy your next TV. Pointless to wait for a newer model when it's likely to cost more anyway.
dvdphile to Max Damage
26 Dec 15#5
I've recently changed my panny plasma to the LG55EG910V and am very pleased with it! It looks ok with Sd but gorgeous with a good HD source like Blu or Xbox one! The blacks and colours really are a pleasure to behold! I've not noticed the issues either! I've watched a few snowy scenes and they are white not pink or green! No banding either! I've either been lucky or the issues are overstated! :stuck_out_tongue:
andy1989
26 Dec 151#4
If you go from a panasonic plasma to anything but an OLED you no doubt will be disappointed.
Best thing to do imo. Is get a few more years out of the plasma and wait for oled tech to come down in price
Max Damage to andy1989
26 Dec 151#8
That's the plan, most likely wait for the 2106 models with HDR to drop in price in around 18 months
mistafaz
26 Dec 152#6
I agree, the colour rendition, side angle viewing quality and black level/contrast in the OLED tv's is excellent, however it's limited to 1920x1080. If you are looking for a bigger resolution, brighter picture and a sharper image buy a 4K Tv.
jokerevo
26 Dec 154#7
I went from panasonic plasma to this tv and it is astonishing how good those blacks are.
OLED is the only genuine upgrade choice now.
Dannyrobbo
26 Dec 15#9
Richer sounds are one of the only companies that doesn't have a depreciation clause in their warranty terms.
Blue138
26 Dec 15#10
Ive had this tv over a year now and had no issues outstanding picture and well worth the money
Mikavelli
26 Dec 15#11
Has LG sorted out their problems with flashplayer yet? Nothing worse than not being to stream the likes of BT sport
Tabintab to Mikavelli
26 Dec 151#24
Flash is going the way of the Dodo - Its all HTML 5 now. Facebook don't support it, Google don't support it. It wont be long and it will be history. This is the problem with smart TV's, how long will a manufacturer support older models, I'm thinking not long at all. 12 months maybe for firmware updates & then that will be it.
JC82
26 Dec 15#12
The new version is out (910v) and can be had for about £300 more - sounds like the issues have been fixed on that
marathonic to JC82
26 Dec 153#20
It can actually be had for the same price, albeit, with only a 1-year warranty:
In a year they will be £899.
May as well buy a £899 TV every year than a £1300 every other year.
PsychoSonny to snapdragon
26 Dec 15#21
only idiots buy a TV every year or every other year. most people buy a TV to last 5-15 years.
in fact my dad waits for the current tv to die before buying a new one and his previous Toshiba lasted about 16 years. he will likely keep his Sammy plasma until it dies too.
sallekmo to snapdragon
27 Dec 15#30
It wont drop to that price, main reason being itll be discontinued, look at the last oled model which came out 2 years ago. Its still above 1000
moob
26 Dec 151#15
I've got this panel.
Main issues are pink hues on a white screen and slow menu, but the image quality as a whole is breathtaking.
abigsmurf to moob
26 Dec 15#16
Can you not adjust the colour balance? Sounds like a fraction too much red
jimbob2010
26 Dec 153#17
will wait for the flat ones to come down in price and to get a house to put it in
moob
26 Dec 15#18
Afraid not, this is an inherent fault with the panel. The pink hues aren't uniform across the screen.
AV Forums discuss this in detail, plus other issues.
Tequila
26 Dec 153#19
OLED is the best thing since Panasonic Plasma.regular LED LCDs are just a waste of time.
I will wait until next year for prices to fall down further though.
k4mmy
26 Dec 15#22
I upgraded from a penny plasma a few months ago for 1799 and it's absolutely stunning. At this price it's a no brainer.
I'm very fussy about the TV picture but I'm happy with it. feed it a good HD signal and it's definitely the best picture ever seen. The only issues you will see are a hint of green/yellow tint on white backgrounds.
sallekmo to k4mmy
27 Dec 15#28
Ill say this again im very fussy with both screen quality and sound and my model did not have this issue out of box config was perfect, a bit too bright but after a professional calibration its perfect. Ive had panasonic, sony, and most recently samsungs 55js9000 and none of which compared to this in regards to colour accuracy, this tv had the best picture for nearly all sources including 480p live tv and incredible picture when connected to my lg bh9540tw bd player watching movies. Ive experienced 4k on netflix with the js9000 but i prefer color accuracy alot more, than detail, e.g actors look alot worse in 4k, scenery does look amazing though. Hopefully when 4k blu ray discs come out itll be alot different and youll get your money worth. Also i had less lag with the samsung however the sammy didnt have as good multitasking as the lg did. Everything is soo much user friendly. Ive tested nearly all the newest tvs this year other than the 4k oleds which ill be getting to soon and i assure you you're getting your moneys worth. Btw sound is also spectacular especially when you turn on virtual surround. I personally prefer using a home cinema as not many soundbars beat its sound quality only the high end did. 3d will be tested soon too. My model was bought in november from amazon and was the 55ec930v, had no disadvantages other than the lag. I mounted to my vesa mount even though they said i couldnt, the top two wholes screwed perfectly and for the bottom two i just ziptied it to the tvs vents. Its extremly stable and light so it would be impossible for it to fall.
I'd stick with richer sounds but they don't have stock online so it's another option
Very good feeling to see OLED prices coming into their own. As for HDR/4K - for 4K try putting your PC into 3840 x 2160 and truthfully tell me what everything says, that's that one sorted.
As for HDR, well if you understand contrast and you know what infinite means then you know there isn't an OLED panel in the world that would benefit from this 'feature' - in fact it would likely hamper it's actual contrast and look worse. Also it would use wasted processing power. It's absolute BS but as usual people are falling for it.
55" screen, 1080p is perfect. Treat yourself
sallekmo
27 Dec 15#26
Mine doesnt and i got a professional to configurate mine
sallekmo
27 Dec 15#27
Well i must be insane then because i change my tv every 8 months. But then again i make money by buyin and selling tvs
sallekmo
27 Dec 15#29
Higher resolution doesnt mean brighter picture the js9000 was definately not brighter than this and it defo didnt have sharper image on most sources only on 4k netflix and 4k content it was sharper. And the js9000 was the best of the 4k tvs i tested.
sallekmo
27 Dec 15#31
You can get it professionally calibrated
sallekmo
27 Dec 15#32
They fixed most their issues with the update
mreriksen
27 Dec 15#33
Stonking TV if I had the money I would buy that beast
wottodo
27 Dec 15#34
So what part of the snapdragon statement warrants juvenile reply?
Oh wait, you just told us about your Dad`s preference, which other might have uncharitable view about his stance.
poisondwarf
27 Dec 15#35
How do you do that?
I dont mind spending 1200 quid on a tv, just as long as i am getting bang for my buck.
soche
27 Dec 15#36
Could this be the best 55inch set for under 2k? Been looking for a while for a replacement of my aging pioneer
poisondwarf to soche
27 Dec 15#38
Was wondering the same myself
This 55" oled at around 1200 quid....
or
a 65" Hisense 4k 3d television at around a grand which is elsewhere on hukd?
Decisions decisions....
sallekmo
27 Dec 15#37
Type online professional calibration there should be a few offers where they come to your house and do it for you for a small fee. If you do it for yourself itll be alot more expensive.
moob
27 Dec 15#39
My panel was returned to Currys for repair. They changed the actual screen, pcb etc. The software was reset and updated which did improve the menu response time, but in my opinion, it's still too slow for a premium tv.
The pink hues are still present, this cannot be resolved by calibration, only if the colour fault was uniform would it be removed by calibration.
They also cannot make uniform panels, my first screen had large dimples all over, the new one is better but still not 100%.
All that said, I love it, and might just have to live with these defects.
sallekmo
27 Dec 15#40
well you had a faulty one so i wouldnt blame lg, ive reviewed this panel twice this year, and none had this issue, they did have the occasional lag, however it was definately worth it, and it atleast turned off as soon as you click power off, the lag however was worth it because it had true multitasking, e.g when your on spotify premium, and you switch to youtube, then switch to watching a blu ray film, as soon as you switch to spotify it starts off exactly where you left off and is much quicker than the samsung at that. Unfortunate for you yours seems like it has many defects. If you want speed but less ease of use and less ui friendly, and not perfect quality on live 480p tv and live hd tv then go for the Samsung Js series they were really reliable. However if you want the best tv quality ever, I would recommend first the 55eg960v then the 55ec930v. These have a much higher color range and accuracy, making all sources stand out in picture quality. You will definately notice a difference between these and a led tv, even a flagship. Trust me. Also have you tried professional calibration or are you just saying that it cant be resolved as i know you should definately be able to fix the issue
sallekmo
27 Dec 15#41
Lol its obvious pick the oled, its like the same jump from LCD to LED, you would barely use the 4k on the hisense, but on the oled, youre constantly seeing the better colors and perfect viewing angles, and if your worried about it being curved, you can do what i did, mount it on a wall, now it roatated swivels etc. Only bad thing for me was having to say bye to the beautiful puddle like stand. Also dont forget how thin it looks, its like a art project, makes your house stand out.
afroylnt
27 Dec 151#42
For most people who don't sit very close to their tv OLED will provide a more pleasing picture.
4k is a marketed feature that most likely has a significant impact on screens that are 65" and above.
memyhead
27 Dec 15#43
This or LG 55EG910V 55 inch Curved Full HD OLED 3D Smart TV with Freeview HD
for same price from Appliance Electronics?
I'm going with the 10v, it's almost the same to with improvements - don't want to take the risk with the issues that are known on the 30v. Unfortunately the 10v is a little unknown at the movement....
BananaBread
27 Dec 15#45
Perhaps, but is it really worth waiting 91 years? :stuck_out_tongue:
What was the clouding, banding and light bleed like from the LED - they are my main reasons for trying to get away from LED
soche to JC82
27 Dec 15#50
The oled 930v had lightbleed down the full left side of the screen. The led 850v seemed flawless although both were fairly quick checks
moob
27 Dec 15#49
I've read plenty about users on AVF who have paid for pro calibration and whilst it seemed to improve the pink, it didn't get rid. I think tvs should be able to display pure white, call me fussy.
Anyway, I've had it since May, and I might just stick with its flaws, because the positives outweigh the negatives.
JC82
27 Dec 15#51
I thought ligt bleed wouldn't be an issue on the OLED TVs :disappointed:
Seems like it's picking best you can put up with rather than a perfect tv :disappointed:
sallekmo
28 Dec 15#52
Then all i can say is theyve had the faulty models theyve fixed this issue with newer models. Maybe you had some bad luck lol.
sallekmo
28 Dec 15#53
Ive benchmarked this tv 3 times this year once this november once in june and once in march. Im sorry but not one had light bleed, the one in march had pink hues but after calibration it was perfect not one flaw. So it obviously shows the model you saw was probably manufactured before march this year or you just had bad luck with it.
sallekmo
28 Dec 15#54
Trust me theres a significant diffence in picture quality. Oled can produce more colours hence a more colourful and accurate picture. You would definately notice a difference in picture. Dont forget it has much better speakers too and its thinner than most phones.
armadacas
28 Dec 15#55
Why would you pay so much for a 1080p HDTV when you can now buy 4k TVs for half this price..??
Max Damage to armadacas
28 Dec 15#61
Why buy 4k when you can't tell the difference over 1080p? OLED like the plasmas gives a far superior colour picture and that is why you choose OLED over any LED TV. Personally I will hold on to my Plasma and see how the 2016 OLED models look and perform
JC82
28 Dec 15#56
Is this half price 4K tv OLED?
Too many negatives at moment with LED - 4K or not
I'm hoping OLED gets rid of many of these. (Especially clouding)
armadacas to JC82
28 Dec 15#57
No matter what fancy tech you put on 1080p, or fantasy universe you might reside in, it's never going to match up to 4k.
moob
28 Dec 15#58
Oh come on man, I can't take you seriously if you honestly think the sound from this is any better than every other similar priced panel. The sound is mince.
moob
28 Dec 15#59
By the way, this is a pic of the dimples and vertical lines I had on my first panel, TV is off.
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JC82
28 Dec 15#60
I already have a 4K Panasonic tv but I would rather have a 1080p image that doesn't have clouding.
I'm actually tempted to go for the lg 4K oled
afroylnt
28 Dec 15#62
just guessing but you're in Marketing..
armadacas
4 Mar 16#63
I'm just gonna pretend that I'm not an ordinary person with common sense and reply to your comment...
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OLED is the only genuine upgrade choice now.
55EG910V
Or £100 more with a 5-year warranty:
55EG910V
I will wait until next year for prices to fall down further though.
All comments (63)
"No other display tech can outdo OLED on black-level performance, period."
"With an OLED TV like the LG 55EC930V, where else to start but to comment on its otherworldly, 0 cd/m2 blacks whose impact on even the most mundane of viewing cannot be overstated. When paired with 2.4 gamma (painstakingly attained through 20-point white balance tweaks), it lent a formidable scale of richness and depth to whatever was displayed on screen, eclipsing even the best plasmas."
" If you have £2,000 to spend, and absolutely have to buy a new TV at this time of writing, then the LG 55EC930V deserves a place on your audition shortlist."
Best thing to do imo. Is get a few more years out of the plasma and wait for oled tech to come down in price
OLED is the only genuine upgrade choice now.
55EG910V
Or £100 more with a 5-year warranty:
55EG910V
May as well buy a £899 TV every year than a £1300 every other year.
in fact my dad waits for the current tv to die before buying a new one and his previous Toshiba lasted about 16 years. he will likely keep his Sammy plasma until it dies too.
Main issues are pink hues on a white screen and slow menu, but the image quality as a whole is breathtaking.
AV Forums discuss this in detail, plus other issues.
I will wait until next year for prices to fall down further though.
I'm very fussy about the TV picture but I'm happy with it. feed it a good HD signal and it's definitely the best picture ever seen. The only issues you will see are a hint of green/yellow tint on white backgrounds.
I'd stick with richer sounds but they don't have stock online so it's another option
Very good feeling to see OLED prices coming into their own. As for HDR/4K - for 4K try putting your PC into 3840 x 2160 and truthfully tell me what everything says, that's that one sorted.
As for HDR, well if you understand contrast and you know what infinite means then you know there isn't an OLED panel in the world that would benefit from this 'feature' - in fact it would likely hamper it's actual contrast and look worse. Also it would use wasted processing power. It's absolute BS but as usual people are falling for it.
55" screen, 1080p is perfect. Treat yourself
Oh wait, you just told us about your Dad`s preference, which other might have uncharitable view about his stance.
I dont mind spending 1200 quid on a tv, just as long as i am getting bang for my buck.
This 55" oled at around 1200 quid....
or
a 65" Hisense 4k 3d television at around a grand which is elsewhere on hukd?
Decisions decisions....
My panel was returned to Currys for repair. They changed the actual screen, pcb etc. The software was reset and updated which did improve the menu response time, but in my opinion, it's still too slow for a premium tv.
The pink hues are still present, this cannot be resolved by calibration, only if the colour fault was uniform would it be removed by calibration.
They also cannot make uniform panels, my first screen had large dimples all over, the new one is better but still not 100%.
All that said, I love it, and might just have to live with these defects.
4k is a marketed feature that most likely has a significant impact on screens that are 65" and above.
for same price from Appliance Electronics?
http://www.applianceelectronics.co.uk/viewproduct.asp?pid=11568
Anyway, I've had it since May, and I might just stick with its flaws, because the positives outweigh the negatives.
Seems like it's picking best you can put up with rather than a perfect tv :disappointed:
Too many negatives at moment with LED - 4K or not
I'm hoping OLED gets rid of many of these. (Especially clouding)
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I'm actually tempted to go for the lg 4K oled