That wasn't the question. You can of course store cash in other places, but lets not allow such a technicality get in the way when you have a question to avoid.

Good deal, but I think your price should actually be the original outlay, £388, rather than the price after cashback.

Edit - title now updated, no longer misleading.

Of that's all you've got in the bank you shouldn't be blowing it on a TV...

It's not avoiding a question, its giving a stupid question an equally stupid answer!

Good deal, but I think your price should actually be the original outlay, £388, rather than the price after cashback.

Edit - title now updated, no longer misleading.

Agreed. Misleading.

Why should it, that's the price it will end up costing, doesn't look like you have to jump through hoops to get the cash back either.

Because someone might think, 'great it's £313, I'll have that'. They then find they have to stump up an extra £85 and have to claim it back, which for some is seen as grief.
Hukd generally tries to emulate best practice in the industry with its descriptions of deals, so think of the description as being something that should equally be able to be used by a company for an advert on TV.
Would they get away with telling you only the pre-cashback price rather than the full story? I don't think they would personally.

It's a shame the AmEx £30 off a £300 credit @ AO expired :disappointed:

Where's the £85 come from? There's £75 cash back and a tenner off code which is instant! £313 is the price you end up paying for the TV!

Oh and advertising a price after cash back is perfectly common and fully endorsed by the ASA, Currys and PC World along with Manufacturers like Lenovo do it all the time.

Apologies £75, it's early! I'm not disputing that you may well get it for the price but you will put people's noses out of joint by not letting them know in the title that they will have to pay a higher price and have to claim their £75 back. People who have poor cash flow will be particularly hit by this, even though you would argue that buying a TV should be the last thing they should be doing if they are cash poor.

It would state 'after cashback' though, which this title does not do, that's the whole point I'm making.

Great price. As for the cash back, AO will email you a claim form after delivery. Fill it in and email it back. No 'hoops' to jump through. Great company to deal with.

I was going to go for this but hate cashback deals. cold. why the hell can't they just charge this from the beginning????

Agree, and great free delivery service too (as long as you don't want it same or next day) as they will ring you with a time when they are going to deliver.

And just to answer this part of the OP "Are they getting ready for 8K is my question…".

Not really. The more people who buy 4k, the cheaper it will get. Plus there is/will always be a gradual decline in retail prices for all mainstream tech. The next 'big' thing we will be guided towards will not be 8K but HDR. So get ready for a slew of marketing and slogans implying how you can't and won't be able to live without a HDR TV.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/hdr-tv-high-dynamic-television-explained

Can you buy this tv with just £313 in your bank?

Nice - the 40" version works out at £248 after cashback

Of that's all you've got in the bank you shouldn't be blowing it on a TV...

That wasn't the question. You can of course store cash in other places, but lets not allow such a technicality get in the way when you have a question to avoid.

It's not avoiding a question, its giving a stupid question an equally stupid answer!

Beg, borrow or don't feed the family for a few weeks, a TV is more important.

After a similar spec tv but with 3d(passive),been looking at the finlux 49" 4K,3D etc etc at £499, but can't find enough feedback to give a verdict?!?!? Can anyone give a recommendation- have a budget of around £750 ?

sounds like brookysm should be (is ?) in politics - how to avoid the question asked

The rules of this site are you must put the price before cashback as is not always guaranteed.

This is guaranteed if you claim it, its not via a 3rd party cash back site!

Death and Taxes are the only things guaranteed in life :stuck_out_tongue: The rules are still the same. Price before cashback. Voted hot.

Has anyone used this as a monitor at 4k/60hz
4:4:4 chroma is probably too much to ask for at this price,
but - what is the lag like?

It's a good deal BUT cheap 4k TV's have poor 1080p upscaling and any 1080p or other resolutions has to be unscaled to the native 4k of the screen. So the vast majority of the content you play on the screen will look worse than a Full HD TV. Unless your really willing to invest in a high end 4k TV it's just not worth it and even then with OLED 1080p looking so great it's hard to justify 4k at all unless monies no object.

whats the warrenty on this? Extended warrenty?

The answer is no.

How is this for gaming? Is the input lag the same as the 40" version (36ms)? Thanks!

Can't find any info on this actually up scaling which makes it a little pointless as a 4K tv...unless anyone knows that it does?

Never argue with an idiot. The best outcome possible is that you won an argument with an idiot

Hmm this or the 50" Bush? Will be using for PC.

That's a cool 'saying'.

My Response to this is that it will more than likely be a lower overall quality than a good Full HD tv. Surely a cheap panel with low Hz.

I mean sure, it CAN run 4K but I feel this is just a trap for people thinking that it's equal to the Sony/Samsung/Panasonic etc equivalents. I haven't voted Vold, but my advice would be to spend the money on a better quality full HD, rather than falling for the trap of 'Oh it's a 4k!!, Must be Good then!'

Just look it up, its very true

Many Thanks. Nearly bought this the other day. Heat Added

The 50 inch Bush 4K per Argos description:
No HDCP 2.2
No upscaling

They are the deal breakers for me caused me to cancel my order.

it can't be just me and my juvenile humour that finds a discussion of the merits of a 50 inch bush funny

Anyone actually used this and can give a quick review?

It has to have upscaling, otherwise it could only show 4k content and nothing else at fullscreen... which makes me wonder about the accuracy of the hdcp 2.2 point....

Those information are in the question and answer section of the product page.

But you cannot always trust Argos' employee's knowledge in individual products. However, I cannot find the information anywhere else.

Good for you that I keep you entertained.

I've just bought this. Quidco tracked £5.97 so a 4k 48" TV for less than £300!

Are any of these comments about the actual TV?... ¬_¬

second that

Also tcb 1.01 % getting back just a little bit more £3+

Just waiting for my 0% purchase card to arrive... XD

decided to go ahead with this deal since the £399 phillips 4k TV i got was rubbish, screen goes black for a second randomly, sound cutting in and out, some sort of static appears after long usage

anyway, i'll leave a mini review if no one else does

Thanks, I will wait for that. Wish I could get a 5 year warranty

£75 cash back no longer available missed it

wwhich leads me to the question I ordered mine last Thurs while the £75 cashback offer was on screen I noticed it has since vanished on this product, they will still honor the cashback for me willl they ?

it did say offer ends 29th feb so no idea whats going on, id contact them stating the 29th feb to make sure theyll honour it

I contact them they said we changed offer every 15 min

I guess this means they have tracked they had the offer on the product at the time of my order the 15th and will honor it then.... I sent an email asking if they honor it but said reply within 48 hrs standard email response.

They are going to honour it no problem they yes that offer expired
now no problem with existing order I think.

Mini Review

I've been using this for most of the day and im pretty happy with it, first off, no weird issues that the phillips TV had, I've had and returned two other 50 inch TVs this month and didn't need to adjust my TV stand but for this it was necessary, the feet that hold up the TV are pretty close to each edge so keep that in mind.

Picture quality is good, HD and 4K look no better or worse then the 50 inch 4k sony i had, navigating the smart apps is a little slow, nothing terrible but its worth mentioning, i've only tested youtube and bbc news but both worked well on wifi.

the TV has two menus, options menu for picture mode, equalizer, sleep timer, energy saving, info booklet, there is also a system menu for everything else, the only reason i mention this is opening the options menu is slower for some reason even though it displays less settings, its nothing major though

surprisingly the TV downloaded an over the air update on its own and only required me to press okay to install it now or later, this is pretty amazing coming from a unknown brand when a more expensive phillips requires manual updates via USB

I got mine this morning can anyone tell me if the high pitch humming is normal for this model it is not noticeable when the volume is tuned up but once one selects low volume to no volume this high pitch humming coming from rear is very prevalent.

Deal has expired

Mine doesn't make any weird sounds, on or off, I had a TV which did so I did look out for that when I got this one

I have a slight hum but not all that bothersome

Well that's annoying, we finally get some reviews but not before the deal expires.

Im in two minds to ring AO.com tomorrow as I dont think this humming is normal It does become drowned out when volume of tv is set to a normal listening range but I use youtube a lot an browse long periods with no sound on tv an the humming is prevalent it also gets higher pitch when certain menu are activated on screen.

Can anyone else with this model tell me if they have a audible humming from the inners of the tv

Deal has not expired, the cashback is still showing as a thing in the basket..

@des, do you have anything near the tv speakers that could cause this, like cordless phone? try moving things as it might just be poor shielding of the speakers, worth a shot if you like the tv anyways

The Hd chanels have sound delay but once you update it then it works Ok.. I will try gaming on ps3 tonight and will report for any lags

The humm

The humming does not emanate from the speakers it is coming from the inside of the tv it changes pitch when a menu is activated on screen, the pitch and volume of hum changes when different screen settings are selected , eg cinima,game, dynamic ect,of course when the tv volume is turned to a low normal listening level the humming noise is drowned out by tv sound however this tv is in my bedroom so view at night an tv sound is kept low so the hum is heard on silent scenes as well as browsing youtube when no sound from tv is emitted.

Just to update I phoned AO.com an they sending a replacement out tomorrow and collecting the "Hummer " hasstle free so Really just to say what good friendly customer service they have and I shall let ya know the condition of the replacement when i get it.

Sounds like a power board issue to me. Got mine today too, no hums here

Got the replacement this morn 8pm full marks to AO for fast friendly service and this one same lol so it must me my ears attuned to such frequencies, bat ears, It seem to be when screen setting is set to Neutral and Cinema the hum changes pitch between them 2 settings yet vanishes when other 3 or 4 settings are selected sport, game , dynamic. it not over whelming hum it very much background as if ther was a tiny mosketto in corner of room and is drowned out by tv volume
It only become a factor if an when I used screen as a monitor for pc/laptop/tablet, or periods of silence on a program even then for both you have to be withing a few feet to hear it. I did have a dead pixel that was only visible when tv was on black screen say selecting an unused hdmi input but not visible when viewing tv and would not have caused me an issue, I also did have grey scaling on left had side of screen on 1st tv visible on white screens which although is present on tv 2 it is no way as much as tv an to be expected with budget tv . So It was not a complete waste time in my mind to get another delivered and if anything serves to show what fine fast service AO have as I was on phone 2pm yesterday an the replacement was here 7:55am next day .

I really chuffed at image quality ok it lacks realism in colour of my Sony but its only as I have the sony to compare t.o I notice this tv is 100hz and I watched football and zero stutter drag at the £313 promotion i got it at its a steal.

^^

Have you tried adjusting one of the presets to settings similar/same as one that does make a noise? Or use (if it has one) a 'user' preset and adjust that till it suits you. If its only on some presets, then the hum is probably from one of the built in image processing components, that gets switched on or off depending on the preset used.

Sorry if that doesn't make too much sense, I just read it back to myself :laughing:

I could but im not lol to be fair Im going to put it to back of my mind forget about it. As i say you really do have to be standing within 2 feet of tv with volume down to hear it, even if been used as a pc a monitor an no sound emitted im 7 ft away from tv an hardly heard. I dont wish to deter anyone buying this tv as it really is a good image at the £313 promo price I got it at anyone with a man cave looking for cheap solid proformer for fast action football in the summer Euro's search ends here.

I also HAD a slight buzzing when I took it out of the box. When you press the smart menu button (the globe icon with the arrow around it) does it go away when you exit back out?

After using the TV for most of the day yesterday the buzzing has gone so maybe just needed broken in.

Is their site down for anyone else? I just get...


... but only when going to my basket.

How did you perform the update? When I try update using the menu it informs me no update is available.

i did a manual upgrade an hour ago and it is V0.1.33.11, Application version V0.1.6.4 during a update search it tells me this software was build on 26.11.15

Weird,,,,,I tried this and it comes up that there is no new software found. Stuck on V0.1.33.6

I know I do not have an aerial plugged into the set at present as I use a external Youview PVR so any upgrade has to have come from internet as I have it connected wirless to my hub.

Update I did temp have the arieal plugged in the set just to tune ch's and test I can not remember if I did the update while antenna lead was plugged into set

Just abit of help.

Sky Remote Revision 9F (9) tv code is 1191, press tv on sky remote, hold down "select" and "red" button until it flashes, type 1191 and the remote will flash twice.

ordered checkout saying £75 cash back cofirmed as well by phone . hit

£30 cashback now, they really do change their offers regularly

Put in your basket come out £ 75 and after order it say £75 i conform with them £75 I told them £75 coming when u put in your basket .

Doing what you say makes no difference it only effects both Neutral an Cinema preset when I choose Game or Dynamic or Sport preset it goes silent.... so I compromised by setting tv to Sport but adjust the setting to what neutrals preset as are which is contrast 95% brightness 50% sharpness 50% colour 60% an I have a silent tv :O) with a image that pleases my eyes ..result ....hopefully for a long life

I will let you know if it changes in the coming days if as mentioned the hum vanishes after tv had a period of burn in so to speak but even if it dont It just means I have 3 presets dont hum 2 that do an really the presets can all be changed to match others so nothing lost.
The image quality and price makes up for simply having to tweek lol.

I noticed when I looked today on AO.com the same tv has £30 cashback an when used with january20 code that £50 saving yet its mentioned that its still offering £75 at checkout an confirmed on phone says buyer so whipp it up before its gone.

Can someone please send me a photo of the £75 promotion offer ends banner? Forgot to screenshot it!

If you send them photo they will honor it! please tell me someone has it!

https://ao.com/Shoppingbasket.aspx still showing £75 in basket . Order last night after checkout message showing this product come with£75 cashback.

Can you confirm that when TV arrived you received form for 75 cashback?
Thank you

My email arrived within 2 hours after tv was delivered with a link to send bank details they call cashback form.....I did order on 15th when the cashback offer on product page stated £75 offer ends 29th feb but I have no way been able to provide a picture of the add banner.

Ok, so setting the TV to "Games" picture mode removes pretty much all input lag (down to a very tiny amount) but it also removes the ability to change contrast, brightness, sharpness and color. The problem with that is that sharpness is set to about 70 by default which is very high. Any ideas to work around that?

Can others with the TV post their latest version of the software and if you were able to update ok?

It looks like I am stuck on the old version which is a bit of a pain. Thanks.

Can others with the TV post their latest version of the software and if you were able to update ok?
It looks like I am stuck on the old version which is a bit of a pain. Thanks.[/quote]

Not sure if you tried the factory reset option then try update may work worth a go.

Anyone got the new HDR update?