Sounds like your kid needs a slap and a paper round.

this is a great deal and is exactly what I am looking for but I'm currently too drunk to take benefit of it. happy Christmas anyway.... broskis

That was once my excuse for buying a new computer. Don't fall for it. Run the games yourself to see if they're OK. It'll most likely still be able to run games even if it's at a lower setting.

Sometimes running CCleaner will improve performance somewhat or even a fresh install of Windows. A new computer will be the last thing you want to do.

Also, I just took a look at the X51 and it looks like it's a small form factor computer. This thread on the Alienware forum seems to indicate that the card length for this case should be no longer than 9.5" and this card is 24.5cm so it's just a tad over the limit at 9.64"

edit: Looks like this could be the same card being discussed in the thread I linked to and seems to fit.

All you do is sling insults and make amazing, unsupported, claims. We all remember you going on about mantle. You going oin about fury going to put amd ahead. Now you are all in with Vulcan...

You never backup your crazy claims with evidence and your claims have never come to fruition. All you do is sling mud and make fantastic claims.

Also you admitted to being morally opposed to nvidia, how do I know you wouldn't like?

Your lack of knowledge in this area proceeds you.

You throw that word out about everyone who disagrees. You have started on the forums that are morally opposed to nvidia. I think we can make our own minds up about who is a fanboy and who just likes to discuss.

You could say I'm nit picking but it's not part of the specification, but yes, DX12 does allow the use of it. You can call it a feature of Mantle/DX12/Vulkan.

Even if ASync compute doesn't do much for gaming, AMD GPU's gain massive amounts of performance without the DX11 overhead crippling their hardware.

I have no reason to lie.
An Nvidia fanboy on the other hand.
mmmm

ah ok I get it thx to both of you.

So ye they both lack, amd uses ASYNC but no dx12 to take advantage.
NVidia has dx12 but no ASYNC lol crazy.
I understand the talk back n forth with the cpu, as I understand it gpu's basically just render in whatever way in random order at fast speeds where as the cpu can better compute and instruct what should really be done in which order so ye that would be an advantage, again though if NVidia are not putting ASYNC on the pascal (stupid given it would be an advantage over amd) they must have something up there sleeve, I'm guessin none of these issues can be resolved later with drivers, I assume it's hardware?

It is still a feature of DX12. Lol
If it wasn't you wouldn't be able to use it.
You mean its not a required feature - in which case, yes that is correct. There are many features of DX12 that are not required but will benefit.

It is dx12 ready to a point. Both vendors lack alittle but Nvidia neglected to put ASYNC hardware based Compute in recent GPU's (including Pascal if heavy rumours are to be believed and no statement from Nvidia confirmin) so they could lower efficiency and production cost. AMD have included ASYNC compute in their GPUs for the last three year but only DX12 exposes ASYNC compute as well as opencl and the soon to be released Vulkan API. DX11 does not support it.
Basically the GPU works on shaders and passing that through to what you see on screen by performing rendering work (laymans terms). there are times when several cores within the GPU are free and waiting to render a new frame for you. WHat ASYNC compute does is pass instructions that the CPU handles (mostly physics) and passes them to the gpu cores that are waiting. This frees up the CPU and offers it the chance to compute other tasks that the GPU cannot (the gpu cannot execute all CPU instructions but there are plenty that can be passed to GPU cores).
What this means is that Virtual reality will be much better with ASYNC hardware enabled compute, DX12 titles when the arrive will offer many new options because of it (imagine more emotion in the characters faces or more cars to race against).

Console developers have stated when used in PS4 and XBOX One they can gain up to 30% performance increase. We have yet to see that on PC though. I emailed a friend at AMD the other day and I do believe they will take as much advantage of this tech as they can.

Virtual reality will definately benefit and is the reason Oculus rift prefer AMD GPU tech for their devices.
There is a partnership forming between the two companies. Do not be surprised if you see AMD Oculus bundles when they arrive next year.
;-)

Async compute isn't a DX12 feature, so it's not required for DX12 games. It can made use of because of the low level nature of the API.
There's currently no evidence that it'll make much difference in games, we need to wait for more example.

Pascal looks to be quite impressive.

I'm not a big knower in gpu's I know what I read but I don't spend most of my time keeping up with it, so when I'm in the market I look into it, and what is being said is the pascal will be twice as fast as Maxwell while more energy efficient now I admit I don't know all the in's and out's, but are all games not moving or on dx12? so if it's not ready in the new card that would seem to be a big problem and they can't sell many, so surely they having something up there sleeve? would it not be silly to release a card not dx12 rdy? can this be fixed with software updates can the compensate in other areas as I say I don't know all the in's & out's, I don't know what ASYNC is,
Are you saying current gen cards will be better than pascal? if you can explain it to me I would appreciate it, I'm interested in learning more.

Just bought the Asus version (but for more money :-( ) and I'm more than happy with it. I replaced a knackered Sapphire R9 270x Dual-X which lasted a whole 3 months. I love the connectivity on the GTX 960 too as I currently have it connected to 2 monitors and a KVM with one more output spare.

I recommend having a look at gpuboss.com to compare stats between gfx cards.

well, the word devasting literally means something bad and as you never explicitly stated anything other than that I acknowledge you too realise Pascal will be a non-starter.

No I'm pretty sure I said what I meant, thx.

Devestating as it will not have ASYNC hardware compute and will therefor be poor with Virtual Reality and new DX12 titles?
I'm sure thats what you mean.

lol.
Seriously people raving about a 2GB GPU.
I promise anyone buying this they will be upgrading again within 12 months
Pull another £40-£50 out your backburner and invest in an AMD 380X 4GB. I promise you will be glad you did.

How easy would it be to stick this in my kids Alienware X51 R2?
He's bitching and moaning that its not quick enough?

I really really hope so but unless AMD are in the game I suspect we're going to get stiffed. That's capitalism. I'll try to share your optimism though considering its Christmas :smiley:

Is it worh hussle get it from france for 10 quid cheeper?? Lol i will get r380 4gb for this price what ever new nVidia Card series will be in may

Ye maybe if your looking for the pascal at the titan x level, but at the 960/970 level (sweet spot) prices shouldn't be any more expensive than any other new gpu release in-fact it maybe a little cheaper.
To add to which they are already issuing price drops for the 960/970 so I'm thinking a 960 will be £100-£120 by the time pascal is released then your talking the pascal 960 (or whatever) at around £160-£175.

To the chap complaining about his sons **** Alienware, make sure he's got the monitor plugged into the gpu as opposed to the cpu graphics card

Actually, mine is the 4GB version but it's gone back up http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B016XK8WPU?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00

Had mine delivered this morning after the previous listing on here. Same price. Great deal.

​you are led wrong

Yeah I'm holding off on this and waiting for rocket ships to arrive. Probably cost the same as well to start with. :smiley:

I don't see much point to this with the devastating pascal coming in 6 months, such a vast improvement on anything previous and not just a small upgrade but supposed to be many times faster than Maxwell.

I very much doubt either of those will improve game performance in any meaningful way, might see a second or two off level loading times if your lucky. I'd suggest doing what someone else suggested and posting your current PC spec (RAM, CPU model and Graphics card) as these are the 3 main elements that do affect game performance.

What does PNY mean?

Cleaner then an Auslogics disk defrag and optimise for starters!

This would be a slight upgrade from my HD7870 Tahiti, I don't need it though; get behind me Satan!

If you can, get the full system specs for us and we can try and figure out the problem.

Might be a simple clean up or an upgrade may well be needed.

proper netto value?

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That sounds odd, should run games just fine, if not on high settings anymore. Sounds like a faulty part or a virus

This is the blower style version. Will be loud.

this is a great deal and is exactly what I am looking for but I'm currently too drunk to take benefit of it. happy Christmas anyway.... broskis

Good find, however you can get it for £140 at scan, £150 at dabs, heat added

Im not s

I'm not sure. He used to play all sorts of games but now reckons it cant even run simple games. I know its got an i5 processor and that's about it. Maybe it needs a disk clean up or something like that.

Mega find, thanks.

good find op, heat added