Some more useful info from the old thread:


533Mobius C2 HD Dashcam £46.74 delivered @ Banggood.com
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This is a dashcam for people who like to fiddle about with things. It's very small indeed, only slightly bigger than a packet of Tictacs. There are many fake Mobius cams being sold on ebay so you're best to stick with a reliable vendor such as Banggood.

For anyone looking to buy a dashcam I recommend watching Techmoan's excellent reviews on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFB79814F24001328 - especially the "Beginners Guide to Dashcams".

After a lot of research I decided:

1. It is preferable to have a very small camera that will not be too noticeable from outside. If you have to keep removing it when you leave the car you'll not use it.
2. Park mode is probably not as useful as you would think and can drain your car battery.
3. Dashcam batteries may not last long due to the constant charging & recharging and exposure to excess heat in the car. A dashcam with a super capacitor instead of a battery is a much better idea.
4. Wifi on a dashcam is a useless gimmick.
5. GPS on a dashcam is a double-edged sword - it's maybe a nice feature to have but if your footage shows your insurance company you were doing 32mph in a 30mph zone it'll all be your fault in their eyes.

There is a handy Windows setup utility
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25178932&postcount=6 to adjust the settings.
You can also use their Android app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=therau2000.amcamobiusac to do the same, all you need is a 99p OTG cable and you can set it up with your phone or tablet.

The Dashcamtalk forum
https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/mobius-support-thread-and-tech-guide-post-all-problems-help-requests-here-read-posts-1-8-first.4232/ is an excellent source of help & support.

You will need a few other bits & pieces to use it as a dashcam:

Windscreen mount 99p
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131376931661?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Hardwire Car Charger Power Cable Kit £2.59
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221813954816?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Add A Circuit adapter 99p (if you want to hard wire it)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371036262838?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=640213470802&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Cable clamps 99p
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/381343316287?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Super capacitor to replace battery (optional but desirable) £6.62 on the banggood website but £3.97 using their app.
http://eu.banggood.com/Wholesale-Warehouse-Super-Capacitor-For-The-Mobius-Action-Sport-Camera-wp-Uk-918122.html

And finally, here is a guide to hard wiring your new dashcam https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/easy-method-to-hardwire-any-dashcam-no-experience-required.7712/, it's not as scary as you might think.


Windows Program - http://www.mytempfiles.info/mobius/mSetup.zip

Manual - http://www.mytempfiles.info/mobius/MobiusManual.pdf
- ChrisUK

Bear in mind this isn't always an advantage!.

Jeez postmen delivered at 8am this morning
That is super quick delivery from there European warehouse..Wow

Just running through a few of the settings, this thing is so easy to update and setup, almost like your being spoonfed..
All done updated to latest firmware and by luck happened to find an old class 4 Kingston 32GB micro SD card in my camera bag, works a treat, image quality is brilliant and the transition when going from light to dark areas is almost seamless, must be a good sensor in this little camera..

Just waiting for the hardwire kit and mount from the other thread now!

LOL, stop proving you have no idea and let the grown ups discuss a great product.

Perfect as a dashcam!



That's it say behind the rear view mirror of a Tiguan

I paid about this for my current camera, which records location and speed (using GPS) on the video footage.

Cheers, was going to order another soon anyway.

another car or to fit on the rest possibly?

these look like a neat solution without standing out, can anyone comment on how they are to setup?

The deal was on some time ago, not available any more. Video quality is certainly important, but a GPS function is not pointless. As I say, it records your speed and map coordinates on the video (text on the bottom of the screen), which is a very useful addition to the video footage should you need to use it in evidence. Using the application that came with my camera, when I view the videos on my computer it shows me my position and progress on a map as the video plays. I have another cheaper dash camera without this feature that I use in my other car. It has good pictures but is missing the GPS info so you cannot accompany your visuals with evidence about where you were and how fast you were going.

Bear in mind this isn't always an advantage!.

They can break just like any cheap, or even not cheap, electronics but this is for another car :smiley:

Thing with these is with a bit of care they are very discreet to install, very good day and night video quality and cheap enough not to worry about leaving in the car.

They should be a fit and forget item but there when you really need it.

Does this come with a windscreen mount?

It would be a good thing if it came with a discrete mount in keeping with the size of the camera.

Mine came with a sucker based mount if thats any help but bought mine a year ago, really recommed the mobius, the video qualty is top notch on mine and this newer model should be even better !

No, it's produced as an action cam, it just happens to be very good as a dashcam and the holder with industry standard tripod mount it comes with gives you endless opportunities.

You can buy it elsewhere for a fair bit more as a bundle with bits creating a dashcam kit if you care as little about mounting it as most dedicated dashcam manufacturers do. Equally, it doesn't come with one of those crappy fag lighter power supplys, if you want that there's load available, I personally use a hardwired supply so again appreciate not having to pay for something I don't need. Like I said before, it's designed as an action cam and they would tend to be used on the internal battery power.

This is a modified helmet mount glued to the holder that comes with it in my car, (first picture was the wife's) it's stuck to the plastic surround behind rear view mirror that's around the rain and light sensors.

And the one in the rear of the wife's...



It's a homemade mount using the chocks you get in a laminate flooring kit as the angle was spot on, it's again glued to the holder that's supplied with the camera

Perfect example of what I was getting at and I use one them in my car too, albeit I've modded mine slightly differently to yours which again is the whole point.

Perhaps it should've been said up front that this is a camera that is ideal for those who like creating a solution personal to them, if you want a quick and easy monstrosity hanging from your windscreen perhaps look elsewhere.

I still don't see why you think it is an actual advantage that you are forced to shop for, source and pay for a mount separately. It has been posted as a dashcam. Most dashcams come with mounts included, suitable appropriate mounts, at no extra cost. That this one doesn't is not a "good thing" but a drawback. Posted as a dashcam deal, the OP should have included a link to a good mount and should have included the price of the mount in the total deal price. Otherwise the comparison with other dashcams is not complete. I have merely called attention to the extra expense and inconvenience.

Look at the mounts on the photos I've posted and how neat and unobtrusive they are, most purpose made dashcam mounts are huge suction mounts and take up half your windscreen.

I've had a Mobius for over a year now. It's a good bit of kit for the price, I originally bought it for FPV on my Quadcopter but also use it for recording my RC Car races (velcro'd under my baseball cap)

The developer has offered awesome support by constantly adding impressive new features & fixing any bugs, which are backed up by a great Windows program to adjust every aspect of the settings. You do ideally need to plug it into a Windows PC to change settings/update firmware (not sure how many future updates there will be from now as its very stable & feature packed) you can use an Android app to update too, but may not be right upto date.

It can be used as a dashcam, it has all the main features of dashcams like recording in segments and overwriting the oldest clips & instant record when the ignition is turned on etc. May not be applicable to 99% of the time in the UK but they do get quite warm, hence the metal heatsinks. Could possibly get too hot if exposed to direct sunlight in a hot car.

The extra amounts are REALLY cheap, like £3 for a suction mount, or sticky mount, plus lots of other ones more designed for action cameras.

And as for picture quality, here's a still from mine, image quality had been compressed by photobucket but even then the quality is still pretty good

Good camera, got mine from https://www.joovuu.com/gb/car-cameras/228-mobius-car-pack.html comes as a pack with everything you need, but you can also customise it.

Still need to hardwire it, thats my job for this weekend weather allowing

You have definitely made a good job of your mounts. Not everyone would be able to do so well. Not everyone will want to glue things to their car's interior, either.

I used sugru for a perfectly bespoke and hidden mount - would look better than modifying mounts seen elsewhere.

Which was my point, this obviously isn't a product for you, so give it a rest! For those that understand what this is those are all positives.

I already have my dash cameras installed, thanks. And I understand the issues very well, probably better than you, as you continue to describe missing items as "all positives".

Just ordered, many thanks OP!
Anyone have any links to any decent windscreen mounts?
THANKS!

Where did I say I'd glued them to the interior?? I've used 3m double sided tape to attach them to the interior! The glue is to attach the home made mounts to the holder that comes with the mobiusbas I already said TWICE! With the comments you've said, if I were you I'd continue using the huge suction mounts and stick them right in the middle of your screen with the cable dangling to the cig lighter!

Yes, you said glued twice, then you said "stuck to" without specifying how they were stuck or mentioning double sided tape. All that anyone need do to emulate your DIY system, provided they possess the skill, is to buy a pack of laminate flooring to get the "chocks", plus glue and double sided tape and maybe tools.

I'm happy with the purpose made suction mounts that came at no extra cost with my cameras, and don't regard their inclusion as some kind of terrible drawback. The cable routing problem is of course the same whatever the mount. I tuck the cable behind the trim.

LOL, stop proving you have no idea and let the grown ups discuss a great product.

i will take the unusual step of agreeing with longpockets, it is an incomplete product for the purpose its being touted for

looks good and potentially neat but needs extra work

definitely a good price and so a hot deal but users need to be aware they need more than just the mobius to use it well and they should be free to say so without someone aggressively poo-pooing their perfectly valid points.

you basically called someone a kid thus rendering your 'point' invalid

It is undoubtedly a good action camera, but that is not how it has been posted. As a dashcam it is missing bits and features. There isn't even a small screen so that you can set up the aim when you mount it or change settings as you use it.

As for your insults, I am considerable older than you. This is obvious from your juvenile attempts to silence someone who is saying something you don't want to hear. When you have been around a bit longer you will learn that you are not in control of other peoples' comments.

arguments for nothing sadden me, but the positive comments and the product related ones have been especially helpful so thank you all who contribute :smiley:

You've no idea how old I am and I've certainly been around far more than long enough to appreciate what this product offers and to offer advice to others who may not. You on the other hand want a product that spoon feeds you an average solution which you have every right to, what you don't have the right to is to rubbish something you don't understand...much like a child!

I'd been waiting for you to mention the lack of an unnecessary screen :smiley:

Just to add my two cents - mobius as a dash cam is a way safer, because in case of an accident anything you have sucked to your windscreen may be sent flying, or you may hit it yourself.
It is less likely to happen if you securely fix your mobius behind the rearview mirror.

PS I have changed the title to stop people getting butthurt it's not a "proper" dashcam.

I have a pretty good idea, from context. And of course I am very old, so the odds are with me on this one.

I'm just putting relevant points about missing features which you seem desperate to conceal or minimize. I have already made my choices of cameras and do not want a product at this time.


Again with the insults. It does nothing to diminish me.

I have every right to comment in this forum, and my understanding is apparently more comprehensive than your own.


The screen is helpful in aiming the camera on installation and, if the camera had features common to other dashcams, would make it possible to change the settings of those features without removing the camera from the car and connecting it to a computer. That you don't think this is necessary is fine, for you. I mention it so that others to whom it may be important will not be carried away by your enthusiastic endorsement without realising the limitations.

Having used a möbius as a dashcam for 18 months I can confirm it is brilliant - it's small and hidden. If you want a screen etc then you will need something more visible which isn't a good thing. Will see if I can find pictures of my installation.

I have seen dashcams with screens that are almost as small. The screens are in fact smaller than I personally prefer, but the size allows them to be placed behind the car's mirror, for those who feel it is important. These small cameras also have GPS and other dashcam features that this camera does not. If you don't care about the features of a purpose designed dashboard camera, then you can certainly get by with a makeshift, but it makes no sense to decry the omitted features and mounts as a detraction and claim that their absence is a good thing.

Don't rise mate, I'm not responding directly to him now so he has time to go out and drive his Hyundai i10 and point at the huge camera that's stuck in the middle of his windscreen when someone pulls out on him and mouth "your on camera!"

You have taken to insulting me "indirectly"? Don't see the point.

I know I shouldn't but I think it's the parent in me...trying to show them that because something is different doesn't make it wrong.

You started it, and my dads bigger than your dad :stuck_out_tongue:

No, I didn't "start it". I merely posted some thoughts that you disagreed with, whereupon b1g1an derided me as a child who was unable to understand his wise pronouncements and you chimed in with some fantasy about a Hyundai.

Make shift? I spent months looking for the right solution, money was no issue,
I just wanted it to be hidden. No other devices at the time were available that met that. Having a tiny screen is a hilarious idea.
What for? I want the camera to record only.

In my 6 series:


I couldn't find anything so subtle and hidden elsewhere. It's invisible from the driver's seat and from outside - it just looks like another sensor.

Second view

I have set out "what for" in my previous posts. This item seems to suit you perfectly. That doesn't mean it is ideal for everyone. My posts have pointed out what is missing from the features one might get from purpose-built dashcams, often at a similar price. This is not designed as a dashcam, so is missing some features, even an appropriate mount, which is why it is a makeshift in that usage.

It works pretty well as one regardless of your assertion.

so you bought it only for it to take you months to use as you wanted? case closed :man:

£2.84 delivered, it's an excellent screen mount for this cam.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/visit?hukdm=320&d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fitm%2FCar-Windshield-Suction-Cup-Mount-Holder-For-Camera-Car-Key-Mobius-Action-ZY-%2F281810990763%3Fhash%3Ditem419d3e76ab%3Ag%3AMQ4AAOSwiLdWB1rU

As in the right camera - everything else at the time looked like halford toys or after market sat navs stuck to the screen.

He spent months looking for te solution to his conundrum of finding a discreet dashcam

Some more useful info from the old thread:


533Mobius C2 HD Dashcam £46.74 delivered @ Banggood.com
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This is a dashcam for people who like to fiddle about with things. It's very small indeed, only slightly bigger than a packet of Tictacs. There are many fake Mobius cams being sold on ebay so you're best to stick with a reliable vendor such as Banggood.

For anyone looking to buy a dashcam I recommend watching Techmoan's excellent reviews on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFB79814F24001328 - especially the "Beginners Guide to Dashcams".

After a lot of research I decided:

1. It is preferable to have a very small camera that will not be too noticeable from outside. If you have to keep removing it when you leave the car you'll not use it.
2. Park mode is probably not as useful as you would think and can drain your car battery.
3. Dashcam batteries may not last long due to the constant charging & recharging and exposure to excess heat in the car. A dashcam with a super capacitor instead of a battery is a much better idea.
4. Wifi on a dashcam is a useless gimmick.
5. GPS on a dashcam is a double-edged sword - it's maybe a nice feature to have but if your footage shows your insurance company you were doing 32mph in a 30mph zone it'll all be your fault in their eyes.

There is a handy Windows setup utility
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25178932&postcount=6 to adjust the settings.
You can also use their Android app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=therau2000.amcamobiusac to do the same, all you need is a 99p OTG cable and you can set it up with your phone or tablet.

The Dashcamtalk forum
https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/mobius-support-thread-and-tech-guide-post-all-problems-help-requests-here-read-posts-1-8-first.4232/ is an excellent source of help & support.

You will need a few other bits & pieces to use it as a dashcam:

Windscreen mount 99p
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131376931661?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Hardwire Car Charger Power Cable Kit £2.59
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221813954816?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Add A Circuit adapter 99p (if you want to hard wire it)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371036262838?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=640213470802&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Cable clamps 99p
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/381343316287?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Super capacitor to replace battery (optional but desirable) £6.62 on the banggood website but £3.97 using their app.
http://eu.banggood.com/Wholesale-Warehouse-Super-Capacitor-For-The-Mobius-Action-Sport-Camera-wp-Uk-918122.html

And finally, here is a guide to hard wiring your new dashcam https://dashcamtalk.com/forum/threads/easy-method-to-hardwire-any-dashcam-no-experience-required.7712/, it's not as scary as you might think.


Windows Program - http://www.mytempfiles.info/mobius/mSetup.zip

Manual - http://www.mytempfiles.info/mobius/MobiusManual.pdf
- ChrisUK

​Actually you can see where it is pointed to. Search for liveview option of the Mobius USB tools for Android.

Hi guys

I'm quite interested in cheap dash cam (and maybe getting one for the stepfather). Do any of them run on batteries and for how long. I don't really fancy the idea of cables hanging down here and there and would rather charge it if possible.

I think there is an option to hardwire these but I don't think I'd do that myself but in the short term a battery option would do

Ta

WJUK

hmmm this Mobius camera, the Xiaomi Yi or the Xiaomi Original Car Dvr (pre-order)?... decisions decisions

I've got 2 of these mounted front and rear on my trackday motorcycle, quality is great and connecting them to USB power with the ignition means synchronised recording.
Their small size makes them much much more versatile, so long as you are willing to do some modifications.

Christ, looking at this thread some people want it served on a silver plate with sprinkles!!! :man:

Absolute bargain. I bought one recently as a cycling helmet cam.
I've got some test footage too:
Day Time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aSkOMlO1Mw
Night TIme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ImhmM2R4w

Awesome quality - can't wait to receive mine :smiley:

Its a fantastic camera for the price no doubt. Not as 'plug and play' as a dedicated dash can for sure, and although having it hidden can be a positive, if I'm unfortunate to have to drive through Bradford and parts of London I want the ***** in front to know I've got a dash can and not to pull a fast one.

This is s superb piece of kit, I have one in each of our cars.

Ordered, thanks!

Having been in a crash where the other party admitted liability, then changed their mind 2 weeks later and claimed that she and all her "passengers" had injuries, I've been looking at dashcams for ages. You don't always have a human witness on hand.

Despite the heat, I've read good things on reliability for the Mobius.

I have one of these, great price.
Not for the tech noob, you need to be happy with configuring stuff without much help, but if that's you this is a great cam.

Connect Mobius to a PC via the supplied cable, & set it up for loop-recording via the mSetup GUI. It's easy & takes just a few minutes longer than the average dashcam to set up.

thanks for the info - i thought you could just plug in to your power thingy and press a button to record! a little setup sounds worth it, thanks :smiley:

Just ordered one for the car
Ordered the mount that someone posted to aswell here for 99p
Top quality for peanuts imo a no-brainer

As delivered, Mobius is configured ready for use as an ActionCam not DashCam. After it's been set up for loop-recording, it will automatically start recording when you start your engine, & stop recording when you switch the engine off.

ah but I intend to take it out of the car and turn it on/off like i would a sat nav etc

No problem. Out of the car, press the power button & it starts recording using it's internal battery for power. In the car, connect it to the cigarette lighter socket & it automatically starts recording when the engine is started.

perfect :smile: thanks

Would I have to pay uk import taxes on this item?

How much footage can the memory card take?

If you didn't want it to overwrite old files would you need to totally stop it recording?

E.g. You film for 1 hour, want to keep the first 5mins, then record over the rest, not at a PC.

No, as it is shipped from EU warehouse.

32GB Card = 4 hours 30 mins., 16GB Card = 2 hours 15 mins., 8GB Card = 1 hour 7 mins., 4GB Card = 33 mins.

Thank you archarius

Found this useful video about installing this the Hardwiring way.
https://youtu.be/J8TqMfgmJCc

Anyone know where you get the sticky mount from in the UK as having a hard time trying to track one down on ebay and other retailers, loads of the suction cup mounts but want the cleaner looking and smaller 3M sticky mount!

i bought this one. magnetic on one side, sticky on the other.

It was discussed in the last thread for these.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291054756985?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Thanks but I don't have anywhere to stick the underside too, that would give me the required angle to point in the right direction..

I recommend this thread for some inspiration.

Jeez postmen delivered at 8am this morning
That is super quick delivery from there European warehouse..Wow

Just running through a few of the settings, this thing is so easy to update and setup, almost like your being spoonfed..
All done updated to latest firmware and by luck happened to find an old class 4 Kingston 32GB micro SD card in my camera bag, works a treat, image quality is brilliant and the transition when going from light to dark areas is almost seamless, must be a good sensor in this little camera..

Just waiting for the hardwire kit and mount from the other thread now!

Mine just came as well... But my SD card hasn't so can't use it yet :disappointed:

Ordered 10th December, Arrived today (14th) -- that includes a weekend, from Luxenbourg and on the run up to Christmas! Very impressed :smiley:

Price gone up, please expire.

even with the voucher code?

Yep £45 now with code. Cashback on top.

Seems to be code expired!!

What fuse should I be using (2,5amp etc) to hardwire in.
Also (I have bought the capacitor) which fuse should I piggyback from..