Similar deal is posted on HUKD for £65.20 but the key facts are:
- Official Windows 10 install
- Processor architecture supports H.264 encoding/decoding in hardware
- Essential for game streaming
- Option for 5000mAH battery & 64GB SSD
- £71 for this option
- Online reviews say this is slow access
- I suspect it's there to compensate for no TF card (uSD) slot on the chassis
- Priority direct mail (7-15 days) is less than £1 extra
- Expedited delivery (4-7 days) to UK is proportional to how many you buy (1 = £11, 3 = £4.50)
- Delivery insurance is available & proportional to how many you buy (1=£1.66, 3=£3.67)
My current uses for this are:
- Running Kodi
- Running Steam Big Picture to stream from main gaming PC
- Running Xbox app in Windows 10
- This streams from Xbox one, allowing remote power on & power off
- Xbox 360 wireless adapter (£4.50) for gaming controller
- DigiFlex remote (has app switch button) (£3.99)
- http://www.amazon.co.uk/DIGIFLEX-Computer-Remote-Control-Controller-Black/dp/B004B9FPIS
- No keyboard or mouse attached, Win 10 Home does not come with RDP so using Google Remote Desktop is a good free way around this (RDP wrapper can be problematic due to the default login mechanism which is setup)
- A cheap mini USB hub (£2) can be used to extend ports if required
- http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00AFYCBR6?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00
My experiences are:
- Kodi is fast and smooth for media streaming (SD & HD)
- Control from phone or DigiFlex remote
- Steam is fine for 1080p @ 60fps, although 30fps is recommended as setup is tweaked
- Xbox App is great, although the controllers don't navigate the app yet (360 controller)
- The DigiFlex remote can be used for this (mouse pointer thumb stick)
- There are apps which can 'auto click' certain areas to launch the connection automatically
- The box can run a little warm, a lot of people on the web comment on this but I'm not convinced it's a problem
- The PSU has an EU adapter which can disconnect easily, but I found that using insulation tape was an easy fix (5V 2.5A adapter required otherwise)
- I have the Cenovo mini PC which I have compared this to
- The performance is equivalent (same Px, RAM size & ROM size)
- The Voyo is better looking & slightly smaller
- The Wifi in the Cenovo & Voyo can be intermittent (speed fluctuations)
- Some reviews online state the same issue, especially if using BT at the same time
- I mainly use LAN or HomePlugs so this may need more testing by other users
- Battery is a nice feature but I've never found a use for it (i.e. moving without reboot, use in the car with seat screen, charging phone when on the move)
- These are some of the applications I can think of but in my opinion they're not practical
Overall I think this is a great option for small clients (Media & gaming) hooked up to your TV with a central processing option for Game/Media hosting.
I haven't used this a day to day PC (which is why I don't have the 64GB SSD extension). I don't see why this can't run Office apps or browse the web well, if the Linx Tablet can do then these little boxes can do it.
Top comments
HankHandsome
16 Dec 1567#20
possibly one of the most informative and helpful deal posts I've ever seen on HUKD in all the years I've been here
HankHandsome
16 Dec 1510#21
possibly one of the most informative and helpful deal posts I've ever seen on HUKD in all the years I've been here
thankyoo
17 Dec 154#105
Never send anything back to gearbest as paypal demands. It will cost loads if recorded sp. to China, they will deny getting it, and paypal will not refund even if it was recorded delivery because they deny receiving it.
To get a refund from gearbest contact your bank's "Credit Card Dispute department". Gearbest mainly scams Americans but has done numerous Brits too.
I had one of these from gearbest. It worked for a day, then failed. Costs more
To send it back to China than it costs for the device.
Nice small pc, but the internal
Components are cheap. Quick enough for Kodi but that's it. If you want to use it as a pc get a nuc.
Latest comments (171)
butpatbut
12 Jan 161#171
Received mine and it works very well (no battery issue)
Make sure to perform a window update before using it. Makes a huge different
Klansimpson
26 Dec 151#170
For those wondering 28.7GB is usable space after updating to Windows 10 and deleting all the old temp files etc (previous windows install and update files) brought the os to 6.5GB total. Means 22.2GB Free Space.... 10GB lol
22.2GB should be plenty for a basic use PC (for sub 60 pounds what do you expect exactly?!?!?!)
Means you could install office and a bunch of other applications, maybe chuck a tf card/MicroSD card (64GB is about £17 for a decent UHS-I card) and save your documents etc to this if space is a concern
I just bought a different model from the EU Warehouse for 60ish (http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box/pp_166769.html), ordered Sunday arrived Tuesday, much stronger battery... gotta say impressed with this also, for office use or in my case Emulation (fitting it into a PSX chasis) its excellent and good value for money also. I paid for the speed of delivery, no duties, tax etc
iliko
21 Dec 151#168
They sent me a power adapter instead of VOYO box, bustards
solid to iliko
21 Dec 15#169
Oh no - I hope it was just a mistake. Send them an email or go via the online chat, hopefully it will all be resolved. Major pain in the neck, though
any ideas for the blu HD ive been on xda, wanted to try a dual boot/ ?
forcedv
20 Dec 15#164
Would it not be better to try and dual boot your Linx 10 to Android rather than wiping windows (if it's possible)?
dazzadirect
20 Dec 15#163
im thinking of exchanging an old tab for a linx /?
advice ?
dazzadirect
20 Dec 151#162
i do like how windows 8 reset slow re-formats
did a HP lappy
windows 8.0 4gig quad with a spinning 640gb
the other day , took over 6 hours ,but flatted it to 14gb used :stuck_out_tongue:
Klansimpson
20 Dec 15#161
Its windows 8.1 with bing, it has RECOVERY mode and when you update to 10 for free (why would you not?) it deletes the recovery crap even if there is any
I don't need to factor in for something I ACTUALLY have and have used, as well... I am going off fact not paper knowledge. Hope that helps clarify things
nige182
20 Dec 151#160
Ah, in that case any of them would be fine. I would probably go for either the M8s or something like this for those purposes as they are higher spec'd than the Pi and should handle all of that perfectly fine, plus have a bit more flexibility out of the box. I would only go for the Pi if you have an idea for a unique case you want to do with it, or plan to try your hand at doing a bit of a project out of it, it is a great device but as all of these are similar prices, I would just go for one that is complete out of the box for those needs.
If you are more used to the Android interface I would go with the M8s, it comes with a remote I believe, however that is unlikely to get major OS updates. On the other hand this Voyo or similar device will get all the OS updates for Windows 10 that come out, and you could even do Steam and Xbox One streaming on them. My personal choice would probably be a Windows box, but that is a personal preference.
dazzadirect
20 Dec 15#159
HAve you got koDI ? :confused:
jUsT2eXy
19 Dec 15#158
Hey. I'm just looking to use it for Kodi / streaming my 1080p collection from my NAS.
Appreciate your help.
jUsT2eXy
19 Dec 15#156
Guys is this or the Pi worth buying over the following Android player?
M8s Android Player:
Chipset = Amlogic S812 Quad core Cortex A9r4 2GHz
GPU = Octa-core Mali-450MP GPU @ 600MHz
ROM = 8GB NAND FLASH
nige182 to jUsT2eXy
19 Dec 15#157
Without knowing your needs, nobody can give any real informative advice. If you want to play Android games, the M8s, if you want to stream Xbox One games, the Voyo V2, if you want to start a project, probably the RPi.
ukez
19 Dec 15#155
Ram is not the problem on the LINX 10, its the weak processor. I've got two, I got them both from the staples deal this time last year. I think they're a brilliant bit of kit for what we all paid, but performance wise on windows 10 vs the performance the exact same hardware see's on Android OS, they perform pretty bad.
Saying that I still really like playing about with them, and im hopefully going to be sticking Android on one over Christmas for a bit of testing. I've been seeing people suggesting they've done it on the unofficial Linx forum.
ukez
19 Dec 15#154
Did you factor in the factory recovery image if it has one?
If it does have a recovery image can you tell us how big it is and whether its supplied on a DVD separately or on the inbuilt 32GB hdd?
ukez
18 Dec 15#144
Awesome post, but this little thing is going to be well slow and have around 10GB or spare HDD after the official Windows 10 install.
A good comparison is the Linx 10 tablet speed and capacity wise, as it has near identical processor, ram and other spec.
Its so 2014 hardware wise.. :laughing:
Klansimpson to ukez
19 Dec 152#153
ok firstly 32gb of storage, means about 26-28gb of formatted and usable space
windows 10 home takes a whopping 6gb of this.... I have 20gb left on my mini pc same exact spec (well it also has a battery), oh and its really responsive. I was modding an old PSX to house it but find the device to be quite attractive as is so cant bring myself to rip it to pieces to fit. hence finding this thread (want to buy another).
If your low on space there is a thing called DISK CLEANUP, run this and at the bottom it mentions system files, you tick all the previous windows etc and it removes all your 8.1 with bing build. I would even run this after the 1511 update for windows 10 and recover 3gb of storage back.
Oh this isn't just on tablets it works on desktops and laptops too, after all its all the same os. I just recovered 22gb back on my laptop doing this as I hadn't since updating to 10 and doing the 1511 update... why waste space?
P.S. if your after something cheap for the tv for Kodi or emulation these devices are amazing, if your after a powerhouse to play the latest games at 4k, you are obviously gonna need to spend a TON more money than this. In short, AWESOME DEVICES AWESOME PRICES
Have some heat OP :stuck_out_tongue:
blakester
19 Dec 15#152
Agreed. My linx 10 has only got 2GB and runs smooth as you like
Jefft
19 Dec 151#151
I can confirm that, having struggled for a week with a Sumvision Cyclone Mini Desktop PC to the same spec. frustratingly laggy surfing the net and my wife complaining that Facebook games run too slowly. I tried all possible settings and in the end gave up with it. Yes you do definitely need 4GB of RAM for Windows to run reasonably.
scooby_me
19 Dec 152#150
M8 or mx3 boxes are very good and very easy to configure... if anybody buys one and wants it running flawless install kodi 15 and install spintv.
if anybody wants any help PM me!
tommydowp
19 Dec 151#149
I would not advise getting that M8 box. I bought an M8S last month from Amazon & returned it 2 days later. I found it clunky, counter intuitive and the preinstalled Kodi setup was dreadful with most addons broken. This could have been the seller I got it from (clone box & bad setup), but its my experience. God bless Amazon Prime for its awesome returns mechanism.
The comment above is great advice from BigYo(Ho-Ho-Ho)Speck (see what I did there for Xmas?!) if all you want is Kodi. Check out the mobile apps (Kore or Yatse), they are a great feature.
Once you have Kodi installed there are great tutorials on the web with screenshots & step by step instructions.
Good luck :smiley:
jUsT2eXy
19 Dec 15#148
Hey mate. Thank you for your informative reply. I don't need windows on my TV. Like you I want a simple to use device that may be my parents or someone who isn't tech savvy can use.
New TVs have SMART functions anyway, but I would like Kodi for the addons and streaming from my NAS.
Hey guys. I'm new to Kodi. Ideally I wouldn't want to spend more than £100, the sweet spot would be sub £60.
I would like to have all the addons and stream my 1080p collection from my PC/NAS.
Is Android or Windows better? What do you recommend?
Cheers guys!
BigYoSpeck to jUsT2eXy
19 Dec 15#147
Would running the full fat windows be of any use for you with any specific applications?
If not then I think Android is better suited for a dumb-smart device that you just want big icons to click without feeling like you really should be using a mouse and keyboard for it. KODI is KODI once it's running on top, You'd be fine with something like the £50 ROKU 2 from Tesco if you don't want much more from it.
Personally I don't want full fat windows on my tv. I've a PC and hybrid laptop/tablet device running that. I want as dumb a smart device on my tv as possible so that if someone who isn't familiar with it wants to watch something I can just leave them to figure it out without giving a tutorial.
Daveaka
18 Dec 15#145
hot
Tequila
18 Dec 15#139
2GB just not enough RAM for Windows.4GB is the absolute minimum.
kendosteve to Tequila
18 Dec 15#140
What do you need the 2GB extra RAM for?
BigYoSpeck to Tequila
18 Dec 151#141
It's actually 1gb of ram for 32 bit and 2gb for 64 bit and a lot of people will back up the fact that Windows is actually quite usable with those quantities so long as you are realistic that you're not going to have a video playing while keeping 20 browser tabs open.
preecey to Tequila
18 Dec 15#143
If you're using a mechanical drive, then your argument is valid. Using eMMC drives or whatever solid state tech these use, 2GB RAM is plenty.
Heck, even my Tesco Connect tablet (similar to a Linx 7) gets by just fine with 1GB - because it has a solid state storage chip. Boots up in under 15 seconds and handles HD YouTube videos perfectly fine.
JayPed
18 Dec 152#142
in real life performance though,1GB is a joke and 2GB means painfully slow performance,lags,and headache.
4GB is the minimum.
BigYoSpeck
18 Dec 15#138
I'd talk to a Microsoft rep about it but so far as I'm aware in Eurpoe Microsoft must permit the transfer of a software license between systems. The important thing here is for a software license, something Windows 10 changes as it's a subscription tied to the 'life of the system' so tranfer the Windows 8 license if I'm correct and it can be done.
But talk to a Microsoft rep about it, they will be completely forthcoming if it is something they are obliged to allow.
fuzzy_logic
18 Dec 15#137
Well, you could try, but i wouldn't guarantee it would work. The supplier may have activated a copy of Windows 8.1 before upgrading to 10, so they key may already be tied to the machine
maxwell689
18 Dec 15#136
Ok cheers, thats fine. I might get this as a cheaper way of getting an OS for my new PC and then see if i can install something else on this. Unless there is a cheaper way of getting hold of windows? I am a bit apprehensive about buying a strange key online (I see the softwareswap subreddit has been closed) so hopefully there is another way?
baldeagle217
18 Dec 151#135
heat from me very informative
maxwell689
18 Dec 15#125
Could I in theory buy this, and take the windows 10 install off and use it on another pc?
tommydowp to maxwell689
18 Dec 15#129
No idea, it could have OEM limitations where the license is legally tied to the device so migration is not allowed. This is not mentioned in the documentation with the Cenovo or the Voyo so you'd need to check with the seller to get a definite answer.
fuzzy_logic to maxwell689
18 Dec 15#134
With Windows 8, it was possible to create a local account without signing in to the machine: http://www.hanselman.com/blog/HowToSignIntoWindows8Or81WithoutAMicrosoftAccountMakeALocalUser.aspx
Pretty sure if you do not connect to a network the OS will not activate. You can then use something like magicjellybean to extract the key. I've done this on a Windows 8 machine and used the key on another pc. Of course, you then can't use the key on any other machine, including the device you took the key from.
reddwarf555
18 Dec 15#133
Looks good!
BigYoSpeck
18 Dec 151#132
I think you passed spending a little bit more about £60 ago :smiley:
tommydowp
18 Dec 15#131
It has its perks, I never see the little paperclip/dog/wizard pop up and offer to clean up my PC as I'm running low on space. The sales person said this was the only fool proof way to avoid clogging up my 'electronic ring ding gadget box' and he was right.
ollie87
18 Dec 15#130
Your storage is read only? That must be awful.
saddamuk
18 Dec 151#128
Voted hot for the nice description and the deal is hot too :smiley:
mike_freegan
18 Dec 15#127
My Dell boots very fast. Just apps are a bit clunky. On the HP, apps are very clunky. Like, it works, but it isn't enjoyable (with the RAM being the bottleneck) and it has double the RAM of the device we're discussing.
Superstu
18 Dec 15#126
Seems good - but Gearbest....well I recently had to cancel my mobile phone order with them as they didn't tell me the product I ordered was on backorder - Yet their system still let me pay for "super fast 5 - 10 day delivery". They were quick to give me a refund however, so may try them again in the future
tommydowp
18 Dec 15#124
32GB Storage
tommydowp
18 Dec 151#123
I went down exactly the same route!
- Started with 3 Rasp Pi B Models for Kodi (Overclocked to 900MHz)
- Then added 2 Rasp Pi 2 for Kodi (really smooth for Kodi with OpenElec)
- Then added Moonlight for game streaming, but the tweaking was doing my head in
MS offered streaming for Xbox One (Beta) in Q2 2015 and I accepted I needed Win10 on my clients rather than tinkering with Raspberry Pi hardware & OS.
Since then it's been much more straight forward, it's great being able to just turn on the TV in any room and all your media & gaming is right there. The next step is testing controlling/streaming over the web.
Good luck with your setup :smiley:
dmcmsn
18 Dec 151#122
Heat for the effort that went into writing the description.
ollie87
18 Dec 15#121
lulwut?
tommydowp
18 Dec 15#120
Yup, something doesn't seem quite right here as all my devices run fine under Win10:
- Media/Gaming Server (as you'd expect) - i5, 8GB RAM, GTX980, Samsung SSD EVO PRO 1TB
- Linx 10 tablet (O365, Web, media/game streaming) - Z3735F, 2GB RAM, 32GB Storage
- Linx 1010B tablet (O365, Web, media/game streaming) - Z3735F, 2GB RAM, 32GB Storage
- Cenovo mini PC (media/game streaming) - Z3735F, 2GB RAM, 32GB Storage
- Voyo mini PC (media/game streaming) - Z3735F, 2GB RAM, 32GB Storage
Only issue with the above is adapters & streaming over Wifi for tablets (see previous comments) but it certainly all does work if your Wifi is stable.
With multiple instances of Kodi throughout the house there is an option for a central database using MySQL..for those who really want their other half to think they're a geek!!
D3anz
18 Dec 15#119
Thanks for replying, seems simple enough to do. Got a Raspi with Kodi on but want something to beam Steam to my living room :smiley:
D3anz
18 Dec 15#117
Is it easy to link to use for Steam Link OP?. How have you set it up?
tommydowp to D3anz
18 Dec 152#118
You just need to install Steam & then run in Big Picture mode. There are many guides on web for setting up Steam for streaming from another PC.
On my clients I have Chrome (for Google desktop access), Xbox App, Kodi, & Steam installed (nothing else). Once you launch steam in big picture mode (you can create a shortcut for this by adding the bigpicture switch at the end of the command) you can then navigate using a controller (I use an Xbox360 controller).
So a simple setup is:
- Basic remote for navigating windows (you can even install an app to use your mobile phone)
- Put the shortcuts on the start menu (tablet view) or task bar (desktop view)
- Launch your application directly from there
- For Kodi you can use your mobile as a remote
- For Steam Big Picture you can use your game controller
- For Xbox App you need to navigate using your remote for windows
- Once in streaming mode for Xbox One you can use your game controller
I hope this helps.
ollie87
18 Dec 15#116
My Asus X205TA is fine with 2GB of RAM. Boots nearly instantly from cold, apps launch straight away.
Also, to add, my homemade HTPC:
Intel G3258
4GB RAM
OCZ ARC 100 120GB SSD
Boots so fast that the TV isn't powered on by the time it boots from cold.
mike_freegan
18 Dec 15#115
It's a Dell XPS 12 with i5 and SSD. I also have a brand new HP G2 455. Both outspec this machine Neither came with bloatware (Surprisingly). It is the RAM that is the bottleneck. Windows 10 uses about 1.5gb just standing by and Chrome uses over 100mb per tab and is very clunky to start up. I'd say 4gb is the absolute minimum for a modern Windows box.
ollie87
18 Dec 15#114
If you don't mind spending a little bit more you could build this:
Grab a Windows 10 license off of Reddit and off you go. Perfect cheapo HTPC.
It's quite a bit faster:
mike_freegan
18 Dec 15#112
This can't be good. I have a laptop with a better CPU and 4gb ram, and that thing runs like a dog.
ollie87 to mike_freegan
18 Dec 15#113
Probably because it has a 5400 rpm hard drive and is full of malware.
scooby_me
18 Dec 15#111
3000 and love it! it's as stable as my self built 1500 gamers pc!
I can't recommend them highly enough!
HankHandsome
16 Dec 1510#21
possibly one of the most informative and helpful deal posts I've ever seen on HUKD in all the years I've been here
aLV426 to HankHandsome
16 Dec 15#22
You must have just joined, welcome to HotUKDeals!
For the same money (or less) you can get a similar spec'd tablet, which can do everything this can and has the advantage of a display and touch screen interface...
barbiegirl to HankHandsome
17 Dec 15#73
+1
juliet_bravo to HankHandsome
18 Dec 151#110
Seconded - OP is strong! Thanks so much for this, tommydowp
amour3k
18 Dec 151#109
Very informative OP. :-)
amour3k
18 Dec 15#108
Oooooooooooooo!!!, looking nice!, hehehehe. :-)
gerardarmstrong5
18 Dec 15#107
If only this had 4GB of RAM! Would have been unbeatable.
thankyoo
17 Dec 154#105
Never send anything back to gearbest as paypal demands. It will cost loads if recorded sp. to China, they will deny getting it, and paypal will not refund even if it was recorded delivery because they deny receiving it.
To get a refund from gearbest contact your bank's "Credit Card Dispute department". Gearbest mainly scams Americans but has done numerous Brits too.
Nice constructive post. I've also popped something in the earlier comments from Martins Money Tips on why to buy using a credit when over £100 rather than PayPal. Well done for following through with your bank & sharing this knowledge with others :smiley:
HankHandsome
17 Dec 15#104
I didn't realise i'd double posted .. i'm a bit embarrassed now .. heh :smiley:
HankHandsome
17 Dec 151#102
ooeerr .. i seem to have "won" this thread twice .. :smile:
tommydowp to HankHandsome
17 Dec 151#103
Yup, your nice comment has won everyone over...twice!
tommydowp
17 Dec 15#101
Good point about the USB charging when USB ports are in short supply.
Jefft
17 Dec 152#100
Nice to know you have sympathy for someone who like very many others have had problems with Gearbest and prefer to nickpick about his spelling and grammar. His post may not be worded in the best way but Hotukdeals does get commission from links to the Gearbest website and continuously ignores Hotukdeals users issues with Gearbest.
Jaxo
17 Dec 153#99
I would NOT buy anything from Gearbeast - I bought 2 Pipo duel boot tablet / pc things recommended on here.
One was DOA and they have had me going in loops filling forms about the problem - with NO way to get any return or refund / replacement details. If you buy a faulty product you pay all postage return to wherever it is - as no location can be found.
Writing to them or trying to use any of the help links or contact details results in another link to the same form you would of filled in 3 times.
Right now I have a dead pc and no way or getting a refund or anything but an automatic reply via form letters.
I would not trust GEARBEAST with any but the cheapest purchase you dont mind throwing away or writing off the cost.
Please be warned about how they seem to operate - I am contacting PAYPAL to see it they can stir them up somehow - as it stands Im down nearly £100 for a DOA pc I cant even fond out how to return.
Advise stop posting links to BARGAINS on this site unless its SITE people themsevles using this site to sell duff products in bulk
BAH HUMGUG
vultura
17 Dec 152#88
If Gearbest are so bad should HUKD be allowing deals from them to be posted?
Jefft to vultura
17 Dec 152#98
NO THEY SHOULD NOT.
geekonthepc
17 Dec 15#80
Sorry guys just to clarify - will the battery on this act as a battery backup if the power is cut? Surely this could be a really good basic home server if that's the case? If people think it could work as a good home server I'd certainly consider one.
tommydowp to geekonthepc
17 Dec 151#81
Depends what services you plan on installing, but if the power is cut you have no TV, no router and therefore no network/internet.
BigYoSpeck to geekonthepc
17 Dec 151#97
Only has a USB connection though and I don't know how many portable 2.5" USB powered drives you'd get away with running from it.
Plus I don't think I'd trust the reliability of it.
For a server I'd either just get a UPS or push came to shove an old laptop. Even one with a broken screen as long as it has an alternate video out.
martynf65
17 Dec 151#96
I have no idea if I need this, ;-) BUT your post is OUTSTANDING, respect and heat from me to you.
Merry xmas!
Fair point. Do we know if the battery is just a power pack or does it also act as a battery to the PC part?
mbuckhurst
17 Dec 152#93
The problem with the cheap tablets, is often they are charged through the USB port, which will often refuse to charge fast enough when connected via a hub with other devices. I used to have one of the Linx 8 machines running my automated lighting, security and solar panel data collection, which meant I had an external disk drive and network port plugged into a powered hub, that also charged, but unfortunately due to the lower charge rate, worked fine initially, but then I'd notice the tablet would shut down once or twice a month, literally a few extra lines of code had tipped the thing over the edge, it was now consuming fractionally more power than the charging provided, so over a number of days it would end up depleting the battery. It was like the scene on Apollo 13 trying to get enough power from the batteries.
In the end I use an older Dell tablet which has a separate power supply, so the issue no longer exists, but clearly a box that contains a separate power supply, on board networking and a fully fledged usb interface would have worked far better, with fewer problems.
Rather than saying a tablet is a better option, it's just an alternative, with perhaps some advantages and some disadvantages. I think the problem with this box is the potential for reliability problems, rather than not having a screen.
mike
bubbles2578
17 Dec 15#92
Which Version of the BeeBox have you got? was looking at these previously but then saw this. Might just get a BeeBox instead.
dAAn11
17 Dec 151#91
Scammer's Chinese website. Never ever buy anything from them. I bought an item 2 months ago but still haven't received the item.
bubbles2578
17 Dec 15#89
I really want one of these, but not sure its worth the risk!
scooby_me to bubbles2578
17 Dec 151#90
100% Not worth the risk. my broken one here is testament to that and just google it!
Save your greif and get a AsRock BeeBox - I bought this one to replace the AWEFULL voyo. and it solid as a rock, plays 4k no issues. is fanless/silent and small!
SERIOUSLY! avoid Gearbest and the Voyo rubbish
Daz
RedSeven
17 Dec 15#87
Heat for the price and the post
Sqsq
17 Dec 154#86
1. Try a branded power supply, from Apple or Samsung or similar rated 2A. Fixed for me on an old similar box.
2. If you are using keyboard/mouse put the nano adapted on a short USB extension cable, sometimes the Wifi and nano (or bluetooth) interfere because they are so close on the box board.
Spotted this and would be wary of Gearbest, a forum I use has put them on the banned list due to the amount of stuff ordered by members not arriving etc...
pvfc247
17 Dec 15#83
heat just for your effort alone; )
captainbeaky
17 Dec 152#57
I hope they release the Infocus Kangaroo mini PC in the UK - looks interesting.
If i raise a claim with paypal, how likely are they to refund me. I have used paypal for many years and never had to raise a claim before.
From the comments on the above link:
"I cant believe It! Why didn’t I look for reviews before spending nearly £500 on my kids Christmas!"
"I wish i had found these reviews before spending £138 on products from Gearbest.. "
"RUN! Run for the hills! Fake tracking number. Goods didn’t turn up. "
aLV426
17 Dec 151#77
I guess using a lightweight player and good codec pack makes sense on these low end devices, I only installed Kodi for the convenience, I use a "proper" PC for Kodi and play back on either the project or or TV (prefer the bigger screen!)
Gamer_U
17 Dec 15#76
Thanks.
I don't use Kodi but rather CCCP with MPC-HC to watch my series in HD without any lag or enconding issues (like VLC would have).
jont999
17 Dec 15#71
Good price - I'm looking for something with a Cherry Trail rather than Bay Trail for better HD video rendering but still a good unit I think.
tommydowp to jont999
17 Dec 151#75
Yup, the gen8 Px will offer more grunt but cost a little more. To properly sling the cat amongst the pigeons here is a link to a Cherry Trail tablet with 2GB RAM and all the necessary ports running Windows 10 for £56
- http://www.dealsmachine.com/best_280566.html?currency=GBP&gclid=CK_E6O7o4skCFVCZGwodLqgEDw
Get your adapters at the ready and it's coming from China on the back of a camel with a one eyed colour blind navigator and absolutely no delivery insurance :wink:
DealsMachine always post a low price & then have c£20 delivery charge to fill the gap which is how they undercut sites like GearBest. If you order 2 I'll go halfers with you to split the shipping & then we can share the experience with everyone on HUKD
m4ckys
17 Dec 151#74
I bought one of these two weeks ago from Gearbest, and it was £59 with the added 64gb memory/SSD. It was delivered in three or four days from what looked like an English warehouse, and the device has been excellent. Don't expect it replace your desktop PC, but for browsing and what I use it for (Kodi/XBMC), I am over the moon with it.
The wifi on my M8 box is awful and loses connection every day and takes ages of mucking about to get it working again, but this box works brilliantly, even on wifi and performs really well, even the Windows 10 licence is legit.
One of my better buys I think, it does get warm, but not hot. And, you can hide it behind your wall mounted TV to reduce clutter.
You never know if these things are any good, or if the reviews you read on the websites that sell are legit (definitely not), but if you are after a windows 10 based unit for Kodi to stream TV shows and films, then this is great for the money.
Hope this helps someone!
aLV426
17 Dec 151#72
I had this discussion offline about the physical size of these miniPCs - you can get them about the size of a USB pen drive, however to me a tablet is much more versatile - as you have a complete solution in your hands, whereas one of these miniPCs needs a power source, input devices and display to set them up (RDP isn't available out of the box either) With a tablet available for a similar price (and yes you can actually buy tablets with full size ports!) I see it as a folly. If they where noticeably cheaper than a tablet I probably would not have bothered posting all these comments...
Neobrown
16 Dec 15#11
Steam is fine? I would really like to know what level of games this mini PC can play?
TDMPRO2K to Neobrown
16 Dec 151#30
none, only facebook games. web based only...
VitalViper to Neobrown
16 Dec 15#31
Possibly something as lightweight as Minecraft it can handle in low settings but you're better off using steam to stream games from a different PC
Chuwawawawawa784 to Neobrown
17 Dec 15#70
will play most games on low settings @1024x768
Skyrim stayed above 30fps
aLV426
17 Dec 15#69
I was wearing my Scrooge hat and forgot to put the /sarcasm switch in my post...
The point is there have been many pleasant and informing posts here on HotUKDeals, which is why I keep coming back!:stuck_out_tongue:
aLV426
17 Dec 151#68
I just purchased those refurbished Connect tabs from Tescos eBay store (£52.40 for a pair delivered), I upgraded the first one straight away to Windows 10 and installed all the regular desktop apps, it's got HDMI out and came with a micro USB OTG cable. As ever it really depends what you want to use it for - I play Hungry Shark Evolution on mine and notice a little "lag" every now and then. Kodi runs ok, however I stream locally via Wifi and it still artifacts every now & then - it's probably my Wifi connection, I just haven't got around to fully testing it. Youtube videos seem to playback fine. I haven't added a microSD yet, thats my next thing to do... My Hudls seem to work better with Kodi though (Android OS) and they have an HDMI out.
ultrakev
17 Dec 15#67
I got this to use with my Linx 10 and it's great, doesn't even require it's own power supply (although your tablet will need to be charged as the battery may not last as long with all the ports in use). http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00LLUEJXW
aLV426
17 Dec 152#66
The logic board inside one of these "mini PCs" is exactly the same board in a tablet - the advantage of a tablet is that it already has a screen and an input device. It's not advice I am handing out - I am merely passing comment & knowledge... As this is HotUKDeals I wanted to point out a better deal, which I believe a tablet is (you can disable the tablet display and plug it into your main TV, just as you would one of these mini PCs, I see no benefit in purchasing a mini PC when a tablet can do the same thing. Also the links I provided are for well established UK retailers)
reddeviluk
16 Dec 15#35
I have a Linx 10 tablet that I could use to stream Xbox One, movies etc, I could even hook it up to the TV via HDMI. The downside comes when I need ethernet (wifi isn't strong enough)......, I'd also need to plug in the game pad (or wireless dongle for the joypad)....so that's two USB devices and an ethernet cable into a tablet that has one micro USB port.....doesn't go. So something like this would allow me to stream.
I've never tried an ethernet adapter through a USB hub with an Xbox 360 receiver also hooked up to the hub, so I don't know if the traffic negotiation would affect performance.
aLV426 to reddeviluk
17 Dec 15#65
Ever heard of a USB hub?
retro65
17 Dec 152#62
Hint 2 buy from a uk seller , you pay more but less hassle to send back when faulty.
Sqsq to retro65
17 Dec 151#63
+1
This is the last Christmas I buy gifts from EU warehouses and such, I really don't need the frustrations I have experienced this year from gearbest et al, delays and missing items.
Although prices like this post is very tempting. I must resist.
joedredd to retro65
17 Dec 151#64
Can't stress this enough.
I've grown tired of cheap Chinese imported tat that takes forever to arrive then either doesn't work from day one or fails soon after. The lure of cool devices is strong (like the dark side), but no more for me.
cubensis
16 Dec 15#2
Id be interested in this to put at the back of my telly and play all my films off. Thinking of pairing with a keyboard with a trackpad. Can anyone see any problems with this?
If you install Kodi you should be able to stream your movie files from a USB source or a remote source over your network (i.e. media PC).
Sqsq to cubensis
17 Dec 151#61
Hint for tiny PCs - add a short USB extension lead and plug the keyboard/mouse nano adapter in there. Sometimes the Bluetooth interferes with Wifi when they are so close inside the tiny PC then the kb/mouse range suffers.
Sqsq
17 Dec 15#60
These are great little keyboards. But if using for HTPC then you must get the version with backlight keys, like this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00T2SJUWA.
chucknaldo
16 Dec 15#8
Still waiting on mine and I ordered on the 1st December. Some of these boxes have problems with not turning on due to bad wiring...
mattym129 to chucknaldo
17 Dec 15#59
My deliveries from FastTech & Bang Good took 4-6 weeks, ordered in the first few days of November. Don't expect your delivery before Christmas.
Gear Best, on the other hand, delivered in about two weeks.
pinchez
16 Dec 15#49
I have a 8" Toshiba Encore Windows 10 Tablet with Z3740 chipset, 2GB Ram and 32GB storage. I've also added a 128GB MicroSD, Dualshock 4, Bluetooth Mouse & Keyboard and HDMI Cable. I can basically stream and play XB1 and steam games to the tablet and play them using the DS4 and can also play on a big screen by plugging the tablet in to HDMI.
I've seen these tablets for as little as £59 and I'd much rather one of these than some cheap China box.
Teasy to pinchez
17 Dec 15#51
Can you carry it in your pocket, take it out and plug it into any normal HDMI cable you find in a TV you happen to want to stream to? A tablet can be setup to give you the main features of a mini PC with adapters ect, but that doesn't make it an exact replacement.
ollie87 to pinchez
17 Dec 15#58
And where was your Tosh made? China?
agneepath
17 Dec 152#56
potentially a great product at a great price.....
BUT how the hell is this a "HUKPICK" when there is a dodgy batch of these around and Gearbest's refund policy is non-existent?
forcedv
17 Dec 151#55
To help those still confused about the difference between this device and a tablet:
- this has a full size HDMI port (no adaptors needed)
- this has a proper Ethernet port(no adaptors needed)
- this has a high power battery and can also charge and power external devices (tablets don't usually have these options)
Different device for different needs.
pinchez
17 Dec 15#54
It's an 8" tablet and while not quite as small as this device I think it's slightly more at home being a portable device than this with having a screen an all!
This device is nothing more than a tablet minus the screen, what I'm suggesting is to consider a branded tablet from a UK seller for a similar price instead. I've owned cheap China tabs etc. In the past and they're tat with warranties that aren't worth chasing up.
And yes it will plug in to any HDMI TV. What exactly can this box do that a Windows Tablet equipped with HDMI, USB and Blue-tooth can't?
Dusty
17 Dec 15#53
A work mate had one of these and it was a pig of a thing from the get go, when it did work it ran Kodi fine. Had it for 3 weeks with at a guess 4 hours use before it gave up the ghost. Ended up binning it and buying a Zotac AD11 on the cheap. Been running for months now without a re-boot and its been fine. Possibly better off with an old Acer Revo?
OFI
17 Dec 151#52
Why would you pay someone else's insurance? If the goods don't arrive then you haven't received the goods you paid for. You don't insure your Tesco delivery do you.
aLV426
16 Dec 151#33
They have a display and a touch screen, O365 subscription and are from a UK based company...
Given the similar prices I would steer towards a "standard" tablet, much more versatile. It's not hard to find a tablet with identical spec for very similar money (The Voyo is just a tablet without the display...)
But hey what do I know people are going to nitpick, this is HotUKDeals after all...
Teasy to aLV426
17 Dec 15#50
Nonsense nobody is nitpicking, they're just trying to tell you that your advice isn't helpful to someone who specifically wants a mini PC. A tablet isn't a exact replacement for a mini PC after all.
sleepingwonder
16 Dec 152#48
lol Gearbest - Good luck folks
xela333
16 Dec 151#47
Not as simple as that. This has a full size hdmi port, network port and full size USB. Much more useful if you want to use it purely with your t.v.
Trouble is three of these have only 1gb ram and the other has no hdmi.
Gamer_U to aLV426
16 Dec 15#46
I'm not a tablet user fella so I would like to ask you if there's any good ones for up to £50 with an HDMI port?
Without HDMI it's useless for me.
Jefft
16 Dec 15#45
But it will be VERY laggy and slow.
thespecialone
16 Dec 15#44
Anyone tried watching sky go through this? Find it hit and miss with jerky picture.
tommydowp
16 Dec 15#42
It's a shame you've had such a bad experience & they've not done the right thing. I have purchased items from GearBest & DealsMachine before (my Cenovo) and this was fine. I ordered multiple items each time so the orders were over £100, which is why I found this post useful : http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/credit-cards/PayPal-Section75. Anyway, theory & practice aren't always the same but I always remember that the majority of people who provide feedback or have something to say about a company tend to be disgruntled. Of course, this should never be ignored but it is hard to have correct statistics when the majority of good experiences don't always post feedback. The connectivity issue with the wiring to the battery of the Voyo does suggest a batch from the battery supplier / manufacture was faulty. If this worries buyers a similar option is the Cenovo, or the tablets discussed in earlier posts (I did want a wired connection to provide a safety net if WiFi was problematic). USB OTG (should support 50Mb/s min) with an ethernet adapter which tend to cost ~£4 could resolve this and HDMI is always a must.
Anyway, the setup remains the same (if that floats your boat) regardless of device : Kodi for media, Steam for PC game streaming and Xbox One game streaming.
Grohller
16 Dec 151#34
I have the cenove... have to say its great as a multi purpose kodi and desktop. It does get very hot in windows version though. It shorted out on me once playing a movie from usb so I think it needs some cooling, just for safety's sake. Definitely worth the upgrade from an Mx android box.
tommydowp to Grohller
16 Dec 15#41
I haven't had the short problem on my Cenovo, you're right it is great for multi-purpose when running Windows 10. Mine has been running for a few weeks, I hope I haven't cursed it by saying this though!
thankyoo
16 Dec 152#40
Although produced in Shenzhen, these were actually designed by a champion Welsh designer working for a prototype firm in Newcastle originally as a pet project and optimised for wifi and wii devices.
BigYoSpeck
16 Dec 15#39
Hmm, it's at a price point I'm tempted as an impulse purchase to have a play with and use for some projects but Gearbest's reputation precedes them so I think I'll go go karting instead.
irradiated
16 Dec 152#38
these little box's are what really makes a tv 'smart' ive had a similar one for ages now and love it, im amazed just how nippy they are and with it being windows it runs most things out there. i just wish they didn't incorporate a battery and then it could be even smaller
for a controller id recommend a sumvision air mouse, much better than those track pads https://www.7dayshop.com/products/sumvision-air-mouse-wireless-media-remote-ENCL-MEDIA-CYCLONE-AIRMOUSE
superivanho
16 Dec 15#37
you are doing it wrong then. I can play and install steam and origin games even on my linx7 which only has 1Gb ram. can play fifa 13 pretty good on low settings and many other steam games.
HankHandsome
16 Dec 15#36
click on my profile ..
zaax
16 Dec 15#28
gearbest is not a UK or even a EC company and therefore is not covered by EC distance selling laws.
TDMPRO2K to zaax
16 Dec 151#32
Completely correct. that's why I lost my money... useless company never buying anything from them again.
crazygoldfish
16 Dec 15#26
Tempted I am.
hawkinsandy
16 Dec 15#24
Example?
tommydowp
16 Dec 15#23
I still have a room which requires a client (don't tell the Mrs!) so if you could direct me to this please I'll give it a try.
Ta,
Tom
HankHandsome
16 Dec 1567#20
possibly one of the most informative and helpful deal posts I've ever seen on HUKD in all the years I've been here
J400uk
16 Dec 15#19
Looks good, tempted to get one for the bedroom to use as an Xbox One streamer
tommydowp
16 Dec 15#18
No problem, just remember you can't navigate the App with the 360 controller. You'll know straight away if it's working as if you start streaming & it doesn't detect a controller it tells you to connect one. good luck!
reddeviluk
16 Dec 15#17
Excellent,,many thanks for this Tommy, I'll go shopping tomorrow and give it a whirl.
Thanks again,
Rich
tommydowp
16 Dec 151#16
Yes, I have tried this. I first proved on my main gaming PC, then as I distributed my mini clients & each worked fine. I am using Xbox App v11.12.9011.00000.
thermomonkey
16 Dec 151#15
Heat for the price - good post as well, lots of info on there, thanks!
buyer101
16 Dec 152#14
This looks like a great device, although it's no use to me though.
Heat added.
reddeviluk
16 Dec 15#13
Have you actually tried this???. I thought it was only Xbox One controllers for Xbox One and 360 controllers for PC games.....?????, not on Xbox One streamed games???. I'd love to know if the 360 controller works one Xbox One streaming though.
Cheers,
Rich
ficosaneil
16 Dec 15#12
with these reports of faulty cheap electronics I wouldn't want it anywhere near my home...
richard47
16 Dec 154#10
I had one of these from gearbest. It worked for a day, then failed. Costs more
To send it back to China than it costs for the device.
Nice small pc, but the internal
Components are cheap. Quick enough for Kodi but that's it. If you want to use it as a pc get a nuc.
Georginareed
16 Dec 151#9
nice,,:laughing:
simes
16 Dec 153#7
Isn't this the device that most people have had problems with due to bad soldering on the battery connection ?
If so I would be avoiding this.
ultrakev
16 Dec 15#6
Awesome thanks, will give that a try
marchitecture
16 Dec 15#5
this or the chuwi hi8 pro? I've ordered the Chuwi but still waiting on stock but this claims to run cad and photoshop which is what I'm looking for a portable solution to do light cad and photoshop work while travelling?
Once the dongle & Xbox 360 controller are connected do the following:
1. Open Xbox App & Connect to Xbox One
2. Enable Streaming
The Xbox 360 controller should allow you to now control your Xbox One. It won't allow you to navigate the Xbox App itself however, this only works with official controllers & wireless receivers.
I hope this helps.
ultrakev
16 Dec 15#1
How are you using an Xbox 360 controller with Xbox One streaming? I thought it only allowed the use of the Xbox One controller? Good deal though.
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Opening post
Similar deal is posted on HUKD for £65.20 but the key facts are:
- Official Windows 10 install
- Processor architecture supports H.264 encoding/decoding in hardware
- Essential for game streaming
- Option for 5000mAH battery & 64GB SSD
- £71 for this option
- Online reviews say this is slow access
- I suspect it's there to compensate for no TF card (uSD) slot on the chassis
- Priority direct mail (7-15 days) is less than £1 extra
- Expedited delivery (4-7 days) to UK is proportional to how many you buy (1 = £11, 3 = £4.50)
- Delivery insurance is available & proportional to how many you buy (1=£1.66, 3=£3.67)
My current uses for this are:
- Running Kodi
- Running Steam Big Picture to stream from main gaming PC
- Running Xbox app in Windows 10
- This streams from Xbox one, allowing remote power on & power off
- Xbox 360 wireless adapter (£4.50) for gaming controller
- DigiFlex remote (has app switch button) (£3.99)
- http://www.amazon.co.uk/DIGIFLEX-Computer-Remote-Control-Controller-Black/dp/B004B9FPIS
- No keyboard or mouse attached, Win 10 Home does not come with RDP so using Google Remote Desktop is a good free way around this (RDP wrapper can be problematic due to the default login mechanism which is setup)
- A cheap mini USB hub (£2) can be used to extend ports if required
- http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00AFYCBR6?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00
My experiences are:
- Kodi is fast and smooth for media streaming (SD & HD)
- Control from phone or DigiFlex remote
- Steam is fine for 1080p @ 60fps, although 30fps is recommended as setup is tweaked
- Xbox App is great, although the controllers don't navigate the app yet (360 controller)
- The DigiFlex remote can be used for this (mouse pointer thumb stick)
- There are apps which can 'auto click' certain areas to launch the connection automatically
- The box can run a little warm, a lot of people on the web comment on this but I'm not convinced it's a problem
- The PSU has an EU adapter which can disconnect easily, but I found that using insulation tape was an easy fix (5V 2.5A adapter required otherwise)
- I have the Cenovo mini PC which I have compared this to
- The performance is equivalent (same Px, RAM size & ROM size)
- The Voyo is better looking & slightly smaller
- The Wifi in the Cenovo & Voyo can be intermittent (speed fluctuations)
- Some reviews online state the same issue, especially if using BT at the same time
- I mainly use LAN or HomePlugs so this may need more testing by other users
- Battery is a nice feature but I've never found a use for it (i.e. moving without reboot, use in the car with seat screen, charging phone when on the move)
- These are some of the applications I can think of but in my opinion they're not practical
Overall I think this is a great option for small clients (Media & gaming) hooked up to your TV with a central processing option for Game/Media hosting.
I haven't used this a day to day PC (which is why I don't have the 64GB SSD extension). I don't see why this can't run Office apps or browse the web well, if the Linx Tablet can do then these little boxes can do it.
Top comments
To get a refund from gearbest contact your bank's "Credit Card Dispute department". Gearbest mainly scams Americans but has done numerous Brits too.
See my posts on this page 4 below on how to get back your money and on page 2 re: their Joker UK partners:
http://www.hotukdeals.com/ask/anyone-purchased-from-gearbest-2238946?page=4#comments
To send it back to China than it costs for the device.
Nice small pc, but the internal
Components are cheap. Quick enough for Kodi but that's it. If you want to use it as a pc get a nuc.
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Make sure to perform a window update before using it. Makes a huge different
22.2GB should be plenty for a basic use PC (for sub 60 pounds what do you expect exactly?!?!?!)
Means you could install office and a bunch of other applications, maybe chuck a tf card/MicroSD card (64GB is about £17 for a decent UHS-I card) and save your documents etc to this if space is a concern
I just bought a different model from the EU Warehouse for 60ish (http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box/pp_166769.html), ordered Sunday arrived Tuesday, much stronger battery... gotta say impressed with this also, for office use or in my case Emulation (fitting it into a PSX chasis) its excellent and good value for money also. I paid for the speed of delivery, no duties, tax etc
advice ?
did a HP lappy
windows 8.0 4gig quad with a spinning 640gb
the other day , took over 6 hours ,but flatted it to 14gb used
:stuck_out_tongue:
I don't need to factor in for something I ACTUALLY have and have used, as well... I am going off fact not paper knowledge. Hope that helps clarify things
If you are more used to the Android interface I would go with the M8s, it comes with a remote I believe, however that is unlikely to get major OS updates. On the other hand this Voyo or similar device will get all the OS updates for Windows 10 that come out, and you could even do Steam and Xbox One streaming on them. My personal choice would probably be a Windows box, but that is a personal preference.
:confused:
Appreciate your help.
M8s Android Player:
Chipset = Amlogic S812 Quad core Cortex A9r4 2GHz
GPU = Octa-core Mali-450MP GPU @ 600MHz
ROM = 8GB NAND FLASH
Saying that I still really like playing about with them, and im hopefully going to be sticking Android on one over Christmas for a bit of testing. I've been seeing people suggesting they've done it on the unofficial Linx forum.
If it does have a recovery image can you tell us how big it is and whether its supplied on a DVD separately or on the inbuilt 32GB hdd?
A good comparison is the Linx 10 tablet speed and capacity wise, as it has near identical processor, ram and other spec.
Its so 2014 hardware wise.. :laughing:
windows 10 home takes a whopping 6gb of this.... I have 20gb left on my mini pc same exact spec (well it also has a battery), oh and its really responsive. I was modding an old PSX to house it but find the device to be quite attractive as is so cant bring myself to rip it to pieces to fit. hence finding this thread (want to buy another).
If your low on space there is a thing called DISK CLEANUP, run this and at the bottom it mentions system files, you tick all the previous windows etc and it removes all your 8.1 with bing build. I would even run this after the 1511 update for windows 10 and recover 3gb of storage back.
Oh this isn't just on tablets it works on desktops and laptops too, after all its all the same os. I just recovered 22gb back on my laptop doing this as I hadn't since updating to 10 and doing the 1511 update... why waste space?
How to from Microsoft:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows7/how-do-i-remove-the-windows-old-folder
A guide with screenshots to make it easier:
http://www.nextofwindows.com/how-to-remove-windows-old-when-disk-cleanup-not-showing-previous-windows-installations
Your all welcome
P.S. if your after something cheap for the tv for Kodi or emulation these devices are amazing, if your after a powerhouse to play the latest games at 4k, you are obviously gonna need to spend a TON more money than this. In short, AWESOME DEVICES AWESOME PRICES
Have some heat OP :stuck_out_tongue:
if anybody wants any help PM me!
The comment above is great advice from BigYo(Ho-Ho-Ho)Speck (see what I did there for Xmas?!) if all you want is Kodi. Check out the mobile apps (Kore or Yatse), they are a great feature.
Once you have Kodi installed there are great tutorials on the web with screenshots & step by step instructions.
Good luck :smiley:
New TVs have SMART functions anyway, but I would like Kodi for the addons and streaming from my NAS.
I'll keep the Roku in mind.
Is this any good?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lot-M8-Quad-Core-Latest-FULLY-LOADED-Android-4-4-Smart-TV-Box-KITKAT-KODI-XBMC-/151888134743?var=&hash=item235d3d0257:m:mOQIywgR5gNcdmxHo1Z_ADQ
Cheers!
I would like to have all the addons and stream my 1080p collection from my PC/NAS.
Is Android or Windows better? What do you recommend?
Cheers guys!
If not then I think Android is better suited for a dumb-smart device that you just want big icons to click without feeling like you really should be using a mouse and keyboard for it. KODI is KODI once it's running on top, You'd be fine with something like the £50 ROKU 2 from Tesco if you don't want much more from it.
http://www.tesco.com/direct/roku-2-4205eu-hd-digital-media-streamer/178-7427.prd?skuId=178-7427&pageLevel=sku
Personally I don't want full fat windows on my tv. I've a PC and hybrid laptop/tablet device running that. I want as dumb a smart device on my tv as possible so that if someone who isn't familiar with it wants to watch something I can just leave them to figure it out without giving a tutorial.
Heck, even my Tesco Connect tablet (similar to a Linx 7) gets by just fine with 1GB - because it has a solid state storage chip. Boots up in under 15 seconds and handles HD YouTube videos perfectly fine.
4GB is the minimum.
But talk to a Microsoft rep about it, they will be completely forthcoming if it is something they are obliged to allow.
http://www.hanselman.com/blog/HowToSignIntoWindows8Or81WithoutAMicrosoftAccountMakeALocalUser.aspx
Pretty sure if you do not connect to a network the OS will not activate. You can then use something like magicjellybean to extract the key. I've done this on a Windows 8 machine and used the key on another pc. Of course, you then can't use the key on any other machine, including the device you took the key from.
- Started with 3 Rasp Pi B Models for Kodi (Overclocked to 900MHz)
- Then added 2 Rasp Pi 2 for Kodi (really smooth for Kodi with OpenElec)
- Then added Moonlight for game streaming, but the tweaking was doing my head in
MS offered streaming for Xbox One (Beta) in Q2 2015 and I accepted I needed Win10 on my clients rather than tinkering with Raspberry Pi hardware & OS.
Since then it's been much more straight forward, it's great being able to just turn on the TV in any room and all your media & gaming is right there. The next step is testing controlling/streaming over the web.
Good luck with your setup :smiley:
- Media/Gaming Server (as you'd expect) - i5, 8GB RAM, GTX980, Samsung SSD EVO PRO 1TB
- Linx 10 tablet (O365, Web, media/game streaming) - Z3735F, 2GB RAM, 32GB Storage
- Linx 1010B tablet (O365, Web, media/game streaming) - Z3735F, 2GB RAM, 32GB Storage
- Cenovo mini PC (media/game streaming) - Z3735F, 2GB RAM, 32GB Storage
- Voyo mini PC (media/game streaming) - Z3735F, 2GB RAM, 32GB Storage
Only issue with the above is adapters & streaming over Wifi for tablets (see previous comments) but it certainly all does work if your Wifi is stable.
With multiple instances of Kodi throughout the house there is an option for a central database using MySQL..for those who really want their other half to think they're a geek!!
On my clients I have Chrome (for Google desktop access), Xbox App, Kodi, & Steam installed (nothing else). Once you launch steam in big picture mode (you can create a shortcut for this by adding the bigpicture switch at the end of the command) you can then navigate using a controller (I use an Xbox360 controller).
So a simple setup is:
- Basic remote for navigating windows (you can even install an app to use your mobile phone)
- Put the shortcuts on the start menu (tablet view) or task bar (desktop view)
- Launch your application directly from there
- For Kodi you can use your mobile as a remote
- For Steam Big Picture you can use your game controller
- For Xbox App you need to navigate using your remote for windows
- Once in streaming mode for Xbox One you can use your game controller
I hope this helps.
Also, to add, my homemade HTPC:
Intel G3258
4GB RAM
OCZ ARC 100 120GB SSD
Boots so fast that the TV isn't powered on by the time it boots from cold.
PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/qjnvBm
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/qjnvBm/by_merchant/
CPU: AMD 3850 1.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£24.48 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: ASRock AM1B-ITX Mini ITX AM1 Motherboard (£24.19 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£15.40 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£27.59 @ Aria PC)
Case: CiT MTX-005B Mini ITX Tower Case w/300W Power Supply (£27.96 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £119.62
Grab a Windows 10 license off of Reddit and off you go. Perfect cheapo HTPC.
It's quite a bit faster:
I can't recommend them highly enough!
For the same money (or less) you can get a similar spec'd tablet, which can do everything this can and has the advantage of a display and touch screen interface...
To get a refund from gearbest contact your bank's "Credit Card Dispute department". Gearbest mainly scams Americans but has done numerous Brits too.
See my posts on this page 4 below on how to get back your money and on page 2 re: their Joker UK partners:
http://www.hotukdeals.com/ask/anyone-purchased-from-gearbest-2238946?page=4#comments
One was DOA and they have had me going in loops filling forms about the problem - with NO way to get any return or refund / replacement details. If you buy a faulty product you pay all postage return to wherever it is - as no location can be found.
Writing to them or trying to use any of the help links or contact details results in another link to the same form you would of filled in 3 times.
Right now I have a dead pc and no way or getting a refund or anything but an automatic reply via form letters.
I would not trust GEARBEAST with any but the cheapest purchase you dont mind throwing away or writing off the cost.
Please be warned about how they seem to operate - I am contacting PAYPAL to see it they can stir them up somehow - as it stands Im down nearly £100 for a DOA pc I cant even fond out how to return.
Advise stop posting links to BARGAINS on this site unless its SITE people themsevles using this site to sell duff products in bulk
BAH HUMGUG
Plus I don't think I'd trust the reliability of it.
For a server I'd either just get a UPS or push came to shove an old laptop. Even one with a broken screen as long as it has an alternate video out.
Merry xmas!
In the end I use an older Dell tablet which has a separate power supply, so the issue no longer exists, but clearly a box that contains a separate power supply, on board networking and a fully fledged usb interface would have worked far better, with fewer problems.
Rather than saying a tablet is a better option, it's just an alternative, with perhaps some advantages and some disadvantages. I think the problem with this box is the potential for reliability problems, rather than not having a screen.
mike
Save your greif and get a AsRock BeeBox - I bought this one to replace the AWEFULL voyo. and it solid as a rock, plays 4k no issues. is fanless/silent and small!
SERIOUSLY! avoid Gearbest and the Voyo rubbish
Daz
2. If you are using keyboard/mouse put the nano adapted on a short USB extension cable, sometimes the Wifi and nano (or bluetooth) interfere because they are so close on the box board.
- http://www.scan.co.uk/products/7-black-hp-stream-7-tablet-atom-z3735g-4x-core-133ghz-32gb-win-81-open-box-grade-aplus?utm_source=google+shopping&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=CP6Ft5CH48kCFcaVGwod73QDlQ
http://www.infocus.com/kangaroo
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/InFocus-Kangaroo-Signature-Edition-Mobile-Desktop/productID.328073600
http://www.bitterwallet.com/gearbests-customers-are-not-happy/81739
If i raise a claim with paypal, how likely are they to refund me. I have used paypal for many years and never had to raise a claim before.
From the comments on the above link:
"I cant believe It! Why didn’t I look for reviews before spending nearly £500 on my kids Christmas!"
"I wish i had found these reviews before spending £138 on products from Gearbest.. "
"RUN! Run for the hills! Fake tracking number. Goods didn’t turn up. "
I don't use Kodi but rather CCCP with MPC-HC to watch my series in HD without any lag or enconding issues (like VLC would have).
- http://www.dealsmachine.com/best_280566.html?currency=GBP&gclid=CK_E6O7o4skCFVCZGwodLqgEDw
Get your adapters at the ready and it's coming from China on the back of a camel with a one eyed colour blind navigator and absolutely no delivery insurance :wink:
DealsMachine always post a low price & then have c£20 delivery charge to fill the gap which is how they undercut sites like GearBest. If you order 2 I'll go halfers with you to split the shipping & then we can share the experience with everyone on HUKD
The wifi on my M8 box is awful and loses connection every day and takes ages of mucking about to get it working again, but this box works brilliantly, even on wifi and performs really well, even the Windows 10 licence is legit.
One of my better buys I think, it does get warm, but not hot. And, you can hide it behind your wall mounted TV to reduce clutter.
You never know if these things are any good, or if the reviews you read on the websites that sell are legit (definitely not), but if you are after a windows 10 based unit for Kodi to stream TV shows and films, then this is great for the money.
Hope this helps someone!
Skyrim stayed above 30fps
The point is there have been many pleasant and informing posts here on HotUKDeals, which is why I keep coming back!:stuck_out_tongue:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00LLUEJXW
- http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B00B4GGW5Q/ref=sr_1_3_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1450302574&sr=8-3&keywords=usb+otg+micro&condition=new
- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311471841742?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I've never tried an ethernet adapter through a USB hub with an Xbox 360 receiver also hooked up to the hub, so I don't know if the traffic negotiation would affect performance.
This is the last Christmas I buy gifts from EU warehouses and such, I really don't need the frustrations I have experienced this year from gearbest et al, delays and missing items.
Although prices like this post is very tempting. I must resist.
I've grown tired of cheap Chinese imported tat that takes forever to arrive then either doesn't work from day one or fails soon after. The lure of cool devices is strong (like the dark side), but no more for me.
If you install Kodi you should be able to stream your movie files from a USB source or a remote source over your network (i.e. media PC).
Gear Best, on the other hand, delivered in about two weeks.
I've seen these tablets for as little as £59 and I'd much rather one of these than some cheap China box.
BUT how the hell is this a "HUKPICK" when there is a dodgy batch of these around and Gearbest's refund policy is non-existent?
- this has a full size HDMI port (no adaptors needed)
- this has a proper Ethernet port(no adaptors needed)
- this has a high power battery and can also charge and power external devices (tablets don't usually have these options)
Different device for different needs.
This device is nothing more than a tablet minus the screen, what I'm suggesting is to consider a branded tablet from a UK seller for a similar price instead. I've owned cheap China tabs etc. In the past and they're tat with warranties that aren't worth chasing up.
And yes it will plug in to any HDMI TV. What exactly can this box do that a Windows Tablet equipped with HDMI, USB and Blue-tooth can't?
Given the similar prices I would steer towards a "standard" tablet, much more versatile. It's not hard to find a tablet with identical spec for very similar money (The Voyo is just a tablet without the display...)
But hey what do I know people are going to nitpick, this is HotUKDeals after all...
Not as simple as that. This has a full size hdmi port, network port and full size USB. Much more useful if you want to use it purely with your t.v.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/connect-8-ips-aka-linx-8-tablet-32gb-wifi-with-windows-10-only-69-99-tesco-direct-2350470
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/bush-eluma-b1-8-ips-quad-core-2gb-ram-32gb-windows-8-1-tablet-59-99-argos-argos-2347393
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/technika-connect-1gb-7-tablet-pc-32gb-ssd-bluetooth-windows-8-1-39-99-ebay-cheapest-2341138
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/refurbished-bfd-connect-7-windows-8-1-tablet-black-quad-core-32gb-1gb-ram-tesco-2338838
Without HDMI it's useless for me.
Anyway, the setup remains the same (if that floats your boat) regardless of device : Kodi for media, Steam for PC game streaming and Xbox One game streaming.
for a controller id recommend a sumvision air mouse, much better than those track pads
https://www.7dayshop.com/products/sumvision-air-mouse-wireless-media-remote-ENCL-MEDIA-CYCLONE-AIRMOUSE
Ta,
Tom
Thanks again,
Rich
Heat added.
Cheers,
Rich
To send it back to China than it costs for the device.
Nice small pc, but the internal
Components are cheap. Quick enough for Kodi but that's it. If you want to use it as a pc get a nuc.
If so I would be avoiding this.
- http://www.s-config.com/chinese-xbox-360-wireless-receiver-driver-setup/
Once the dongle & Xbox 360 controller are connected do the following:
1. Open Xbox App & Connect to Xbox One
2. Enable Streaming
The Xbox 360 controller should allow you to now control your Xbox One. It won't allow you to navigate the Xbox App itself however, this only works with official controllers & wireless receivers.
I hope this helps.