I think you can also get a Bicycle for £50 , sell it on for free after two years and you're £6950 up :wink:

​Really, you can buy a second hand car cheaper? Wow, thanks for that, I guess you have killed the leasing industry with one little insight.

Clown.

Voted hot.

looks like the first ones have started arriving...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmJy9jo0kE0

Good luck with 148 mpg, my company leased 5 Mitshibishi outlander PHEV and we only get 35-74mpg nowhere near 148mpg?

0-62 in 6.1 secs is great for any petrol head, not as quick as my Mercedes C350e hehe

Picture link appears to show 340 Mondeo not 330 unless I'm mistaken?

After searching about I was lucky enough to get a great deal on a 330e through GB Vehicle Contracts (it was actually cheaper than I'd ordered through Select - and there was no Admin fee in this case). I think that particular deal has expired now - but I've been dealing with Claire Oliver there who has been great. Worth a look and a call for other good deals you may be looking into - and I'm not just saying that to get a referral fee... (but that would be nice!)

https://www.facebook.com/GBVehicle/?pnref=about.overview
http://www.gbvehiclecontracts.co.uk/

Anybody had theirs delivered yet and provide feedback on usage?
Particularly interested in how it performs on long distance motorway journeys.

Obviously this deal is no longer available but I can get (via employer benefit scheme - not company car) the following
24 months @ £407/pm
Nil deposit.
10k mile/pa
Includes insurance and all maintenance.
Total £9,768

Not as good deal as OP as I would be paying an extra £3k just for 4k extra miles, insurance and all maintenance.
Given I only have 1 year NCb I would expect my insurance to be nearer £800- 1k per year

It certainly looks that way. My cars in for a service tomorrow at bmw so I'll ask when I'm there if they still have any, which I doubt they do. I was a bit late to this deal anyway, I'll just have to wait for the next one to come round..

i got a terrible quote from my local dealer too, still trying to find a decent deal on one

Had order from before Christmas cancelled by select and Berry BMW .has been bugging me so went to see local dealer at weekend, said they could get me a 330e as soon as that are available!!, trouble is they wanted 3.2k up front and £355 a month, thanks but no thanks, something stinks here, ordered another A6 S line but with the s tronic this time.

Looks like this is a Select / Berry BMW issue. My man at BMW said that the dealer had overused campaign pricing and could no longer honour the figures so cancelled the orders.

My order from beginning of Jan is still scheduled.

I am lucky as I nearly went with Select but my local BMW dealer was slightly cheaper and I figured it was better to go more direct. I was right..

Sorry for all those who have had orders cancelled.

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no call from Select, a surprise letter through the post from BMW instead. I am surprised they cancelled rather than push back the orders. I'm now having to find another decent deal.

My order from before Christmas also cancelled - also Berry Bmw :-(

So let's look at the tax saving.....up to 31st March 5% tax then from 1st April changes to 7%. Next year 9%, 11% etc

No it doesn't.

Ordered 330e m sport before Christmas and just been notified by select contracts that order has been cancelled by BMW as they can't fulfill orders, ordered through Berry Heathrow, disappointed.

Did any of you who have had your order cancelled get an IVS number from BMW and confirmation of order?

Mine cancelled by Select Car Leasing, supplied by Berry Heathrow. Not accepting the cancellation until I see all reasoning explained on paper, and figure out what my statutory rights in this case.

My BMW chap has heard nothing of whats happening and is speaking to colleagues to see if they know anything. According to BMW my order is still showing at 1100 - Scheduled.

Also had mine cancelled through silverstone

finance company fulton used were Alphabet

I'm in the same boat - Richard from Select called me to say he's had to make about 67 similar calls... Not sure if it's a Lex allocation, Select, or just a BMW issue - but it is disappointing as the car had everything going for it!

I've spoken to my dealership today who says they have had no cancellations and not aware of any within the group (Williams). As far as they are aware, everything's on track. Fingers crossed!!!!!

Yes, I spoke to BMW directly to say I could wait until July when present lease expires but was told they cannot take any further orders, something not quite right if they are taking orders from other brokers but at a much higher rate, which seems to be the case

I've not heard anything from who I placed an order with. Bmw dealers and Fulton leasing

I ordered mine in December for delivery end of March. Still not got the contract through and dealership has gone quiet!!!

Bit of a worry really

Surprising if you all ordered in December

I've just had a phone call from Select Contract saying that BMW are unable to honour the allocation of these vechiles and that I would be receiving a letter directly from BMW to that effect. I placed my order on 28th December, so I'm obvious angry to only be hearing this now. Has anyone else heard anything similar?

If it depreceates, rent it, if it appreciates, buy it

Just found on GB vehicle contracts for 9 plus 23 at £239.63 so will call them Monday and see if still available

Hi, do you have the contact details for Daniel as I would like to order one as well. Is he at the BMW dealership or the lease company?

What are you on about?

unfortunately they are all just BMW press release reviews.. no ones actually posted a proper review yet. Apparently there was a press embargo on any reviews until today so fingers crossed we get some nice video's and reviews soon.

​F(uckwit)

Finally!

A few reviews are out .
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/3-series/94188/bmw-330e-plug-in-hybrid-2016-review
http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/bmw/3-series-saloon/2016-bmw-3-series-330e-review/1367266
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/bmw/3-series/first-drives/2016-bmw-330e-review
http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/bmw/3-series/330e-se-4dr-auto/first-drive

looking forward to getting mine!

Ordered my 330E M sport Estoril Blue in December. 20,000 miles, fully maintained £0 deposit and 24 months @ £422
Delivery end of March and cant wait!!! savings in BIK are huge compared to the c220D merc i currently have.

only on my 2nd leased car and had no charges on my first, but did have a few dints and scratches which were sorted out by a local firm just before the end of the lease term.
first 2 cars came from gateway2lease as they were the most competitive and now the bmw will be coming from the dealers. I think all the leasing companies are equally reputable and I tend to go with the most competitive.

So you just jump lease to lease how many have you got what's your experience of it all? Have you ever got charged

yup 10k with metallic paint and heated seats . Delivery is either end of may or beginning of june, perfect timing as that's when my Golf R goes back

Did you go on 10k miles too? I'm being quoted £265 for just the standard m sport on 10k or £249 on 8k but no metallic paint, heated seats etc. What delivery date are you looking at?

Ordered mine from the same place. Contact was Daniel, top bloke who replies almost immediately to all the emails. Will be paying £268.47 for the m sport but with heated front seats. Also wanted folding side mirrors but was told they now come as standard on the m sport.

Nobody in the UK has test driven as it isn't coming until March. There is a guy in the Netherlands who has put some videos up on Youtube and is answering peoples questions too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w1ro8Shzy0

Mine is on order - ordered before Christmas.

Any test driven this? What mpg should you get on motorway run? I'm I right in thinking you get the led halo lights standard.. Must have for all bmw

I spoke to Dick Lovett in Bristol and they sorted the lease with a company called Fulton vehicle Leasing.. Yes M Sport 330e Ended up at £248.29 INC VAT but with Metallic paint included. Non maintenance.

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Cheers Dean. What BMW garage was , as in location? Also, to confirm - you got the BMW 330e M Sport Saloon for those prices and inclusive of VAT? I'm nearly there on prices with the garage but they're saying 244 + VAT at the moment but gone away to rework the figures again

Try GB vehicle leasing 8000mls, 6 + 23 paytments @ £239 per month. I also got metallic paint and 19" alloys for that price!

Hi aaronp91 and all.... Try http://www.selectcarleasing.co.uk/ this is the company I initially went to, A chap called Jack O'sullivan. I never tried to price match with the BMW garage just asked them for a quote and it was substantially cheaper. Jack at select was really nice.. felt guilty letting him down but the price difference was too big not to.

Similar deal but with 10k miles with company based in Altrincham
http://www.contractcars.com/car-leasing/bmw/330e-lease/

OK, I've just ordered my 330e! M-Sport

Initially went with a lease from Select Vehicle Contracts who quoted £256 for 9+23, 10k miles, solid paint and non-maintenance 2.3k down (and a £350 admin fee)... Then my local BMW garage called and I got exactly the same for £244 2.2k down and no amin fee..

This is inc VAT on a personal contract

Anyone seen any good deals on personal leasing?

I've sent Dean10 a private message and awaiting a reply to understand a bit more about he secured his deal in a personal name. I also can't find Select Vehicle Contracts he mentions online otherwise I'd try and get a quote myself for my local dealer to match.

Many thanks in advance

You sat in the middle-lane for 85-90% of the journey? Why did you do this? You basically just admitted you are a idiot middle-lane hogger!

Your link states that "The reliability index is calculated according to how often a car needs to be repaired, and how expensive those repairs are. Luxury cars may therefore fare worse in the table, as spare parts can be more expensive." - pretty obvious then that they will fair towards the bottom of that report isn't it!

I'm curious about leasing and it is looking to be cost effective for my needs.

I wanted to know how does insurance work out with leasing vechicles?

Those reliability charts often use data from aftermarket warranty providers so only for cars 3+ years old where the owner had a third party warranty and claimed on it.
This is a new car. Its also a new model with a new drivetrain. It might be the most reliable car BMW ever built or it might be constantly on the back of a transporter. No one knows.
If its any concern I've found BMW/Audi dealers seem to be pretty good at looking after you if there are any problems and usually spec up the courtesy cars.

a common misconception

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32332210

That's just bad luck though. I'd say personally build quality and reliability of BMW is way above a lot of competitors.

German cars are top of the unreliable cars list, i've had Audi and BMW both have given me nothing but grief, never again

lol, BMW will spend more time in the garage than on the road, unreliable

Any options massively change the monthly cost.I will stick with the solid white, m-sport, 9+23 and 10k miles, the only consideration I now have is maintenance.. it work out at £8 a month.. I know it doesn't sound much but I'm right at my limit. Not sure if its worth it

@dean10

Seen the M-Sport unmaintained, solid colour @ £239.63/mth VAT inc. (6 + 23) for 8,000mpa = £6949.27 total, no fees!

£294 / 23 + 6. M sport 12k with grey paint. The sales guy pushed me away from maintained he explained everything will be covered. I've read that I should opt for it. Anybody got any thoughts?

Requested a quote from the company as I would have got one for the prices stated here but they quoted 2362 down and 262 a month bang goes the late xmas pressie to myself :-(

Whats the best M-Sport deal on the 330e people have found. I have Maintained , Solid colour, £256 thats 9 x 23

WHY are drivers of Mercedes sad?

Why what?!

WHY?

Excellent price! This pure rwd still?
Ill wait till its released before deciding, need another car to replace the family unfriendly mr2 in summer. Was hoping for a golf r deal again but this'll do.

Just a quick note.

This car does 0mpg in the icy or snowy conditions with it's built in autostranded device.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/181628037196
£1.62 for 10 m badges. Problem solved.

M Sport is lovely but was just a little too sporty for me as I'm getting in a bit now!

Anyone know the difference between the lux/msport/standard e? Performance looks identicle, hopefully M sport has the nice M badge throughout as its lovely on the M5

Yes that annoys me when I'm looking at Auto trader and I think 'That looks a good price' only to open the advert to see it has cream seats. :disappointed: Yuck.

You are paying the extra as it devalues the car. :smiley:

Emailed them stating what I required, they replied with the personal qoute

Just got a personal qoute through.

£272 pcm with £2500 upfront 10k 24m 8.2p extra miles.

Very very temping, maintence cover makes it £282 with 10.2p additional milagage.

Im thinking maintenance with a hybrid could be a good shout.

Also this is black or white only with basic trim

I've just ordered the 330e in luxury trim, it saves me £250 a month on company car tax against a comparative diesel. It's a no brainier for company car drivers. Seemingly customers in the Netherlands have received theirs already. .... I'd love to see a review of the car but can't find one anywhere??

I've just ordered the 330e in luxury trim, it saves me £250 a month on company car tax against a comparative diesel. It's a no brainier for company car drivers. Seemingly customers in the Netherlands have received theirs already. .... I'd love to see a review of the car but can't find one anywhere??

5k pa for that, it's £306 pm for 10k pa........IMO a lot extra just for the few extras a m sport brings over a sport

Already got one on order - M-Sport version for £261 on personal lease with Select Contracts. Just done the paperwork today. Delivery is April.

http://carleasingmadesimple.com/personal-car-leasing/bmw/3-series-saloon_7/73190/

Try that

Where abouts was that?

Found the m sport 1850 initial 23x£276 24m 10k.. Got to be done if I can get them to chuck in maintenance :sunglasses: can these things be haghled in?

Yeap also SE and Luxury

Just seen they do an m sport model :smirk: here we go again

Was doing some price comparison search for this vehicle among brokers and I managed to find it a few quid cheaper with Vehicles For Business. G2L offer it for £176.03 and Vehicles for Business on same terms have it for £165.65

http://www.vehiclesforbusiness.co.uk/business-lease-cars/bmw/3-series-saloon/3-series-saloon-330e-sport-4dr-step-auto-72173059

Really...see ya later Scrooge Merry grumplings

Still umming about this, starts adding up when you add the extras like cream leather :smirk:

..? Rob a bank? Sell your boat? Go busking? Nothing like an incomplete sentence when trying to make a smart comment.

If I wanted a Mercedes I would, not a BMW clone

The stupid thing is if VW is guilty then every other manufacturer with approximately the same size engines, power outputs and official emissions must be guilty of something similar. One engine simply cannot churn out 40 times as much NOx as another engine the same size.

It deserves to pay the price for its treachery and if it goes 'broke' from people voting with their feet and choosing another non-cheating brand, so be it. I wouldn't buy one, but that's my opinion, if you want to, that's 100% your prerogative.

Again, largely irrelevant: MoT tests are changing in 2017 anyway. And from April 2017 annual tax on all new cars will be £140pa regardless of CO2 emissions, plus a £310pa luxury tax for cars over £40,000. So the emphasis was shifting from CO2 tax anyway to favour higher CO2 but lower NOx petrol engines.

Regarding integrity, your argument is more along the lines of saying: 'look, you fibbed big time and the vehicle was mis-sold under the trades descriptions act' because at the end of the day it was a naughty little scam?' Meaning you'd rather sue VW for "cheating" as punishment.

If you can do this, everyone can and if everyone can Volkswagen goes bust. So you can't. Besides which, the mods to comply with EU6 are very minor but the mods to comply with EPA Nox limits are more extensive.

I fail to understand how you can possibly say 'it's ok to cheat'. Whatever the cheat was or is, it still happened and the company lost its integrity by doing so vs. others who don't. Even if the real world outcome was unaffected, someone or some group at VW decided it was acceptable and not misleading the public, which it was.

Even so I am fairly sure the CO2 emissions were affected to an extent not just NOx.

Yea its actually £2448 (9 month initial) then 23 x £272/282. 10k miles and yes all including vat

Not even the same context and besides the cheat itself is not very serious. It simply means that the vehicle ECU recognises that the car is not being steered, and in that situation alters the parameters of the engine to reduce NOx emissions to a level below that when the car is being driven normally. So, in traffic, driving slowly in a straight line, NOx would be reduced as it is for the tests and pedestrians on sidewalks in cities would not actually suffer from inhaling too much of the stuff.

Spastic? What decade are you living in? You asked a stupid question - how could something fixed price incorporate something so variably priced? How could an 18 year old be insured on a vehicle like this for £6,700 over two years along with the depreciation too? Had you either paused to think about it or not been super lazy and googled it, you would have realised the answer. To then go and call someone a spastic? Well it's not just unpleasant and out of keeping with contemporary mores, but it's ironic too. Well done.

Is that 2500+(23*272)=£8756 over 24 months?

Had a quote but they quoted me 199 ex vat per month. Was going to go back to them but since it's black or white will leave it. Black gets too dirty and white is the same as every Audi car on the road.

As an Audi Etron owner ( very happy) I am on 226mpg total 135 litres bought 6060 miles covered.
However I bought as knew (most) journeys are less than 25 miles. You doing more than that, expect 40-50mpg per trip.

Thanks for clearing that up for me :smiley:

can someone confirm the insurance group, admiral are claiming its group 38

Can someone clear something up for me?

does the Initial rental - 9 rental(s) in month 1 equivalent to £1,584.27 mean you pay the first 9 months upfront and then nothing to pay until month 10?

I have just set up a limited company would that be ok for business use even though I'm not sure when ill use my company (Electrical Contractor, on books somewhere at the moment)

Thanks

Grant is still valid on lease vehicles just signed off my new 3yr lease. Without £5k grant my monthly fee would increase.

Not accurate either. The more miles you put on the car, the higher the depreciation.

The whole point of an electric car is you consume zero 'fuel' (or energy) in traffic - there is no idle so you won't conk out in traffic unless you deliberately try to by starting a journey with blatantly not enough charge...

I LOLd @ this.

Why are some leasing deals business only? Is it because the leasing company can claim the VAT back?

I might be completely ignorant but wouldn't leasing mean you flush 7k over 2 years down the toilet plus any company car tax you have to pay if you're leasing for work? so easily 13k over 2 years gone?

The dealer will claim it and it'll come off the list price as part of the sale on behalf of the lease house. Not sure what the list for this car is, but there will be a ceiling list price for PHEV grants which will either see deals getting more expensive on these premium PHEVs or the manfacturers will need to put extra discount in to make up the difference.

Had an email from a lease co that I use for a deal on a C350e the other day - not quite as cheap as this, but considering that there haven't been any notable deals on these two cars in the last month or so, looks like the market is going in the right direction... just wish that I could have waited a few months for a new car!

at least the skoda won't let you down when a little white stuff falls from the skies

For anyone who's interested, the £5k plug in government reduces by 50% after 1st March 16, to get full £5k for cars or £8k max for vans the grant has to be registered with chasis number before 1st March 16

Yea your probably one of those idiots who are cutting people up weaving in and out of the slow lane each time you overtake someone instead of engaging your brain cell and thinking ahead like what's the point into moving into the left lane then 2 seconds latter oh hang on I've got to pull out again to overtake again oh I've overtaken quick lets get back to the slow lane then a few seconds latter oh I've got to overtake again I think you can see where I'm going with this or maybe you can't. Yes I agree people who just sit in the middle lane for mile after mile when there's nothing to overtake in sight are planks

wow nice to see bmw are keeping up tradition in producing ugly cars.3500 to rent a car you must be off your head and for a bmw.

If you think you're going to get anywhere near 148 mpg you need your bumps felt

sod it, its christmas, just buy it :smile:

I like to drive on the hard shoulder of a motorway. Journey times are halved.

Failing that, drive on the wrong side of the motorway. It's amazing how people seem to get out of the way. Most are quite friendly too, flashing their lights and tooting their horns to say hello.

Anyway, am I allowed to ask a question about this particular deal?

If you use your brain that would never happen. Bmw will pick you up anyway by pressing the SOS button on the roof.

Battery is under warranty for 8 years, how long do most people own a car?

Range all depends on your circumstances, we do 99% local and have a tdi for those 1% long journeys.

But if you are letting me in you did exactly what was causing the issue in the first place! (Not accelerating past me) :smiley: If you dropped in behind me then when I could pull out and then you could pull out as well. Everybody's happy.

I will happily agree that much of the time lane 3 is very busy but that's not because of me doing 70+ in the middle lane but some lad in a 1.0 corsa in the outside lane not moving into lane 2. :smiley:

If being in the middle lane doing 70+ rather than being in lane 1 doing 56MPH or in lane 3 doing 90+ then yes I'm being selfish and lazy. But then apart from possibly of the lorry drivers who religiously stick to lane 1 so is everybody else!

Merry Xmas. :smiley:

Does this include insurance

My faith is restored. I thought maybe I was the only one who could see that the whole thing has been inverted and lane 3 ends up busier (and 'concertina-ing' like a drunk Frenchman)..

Exactly this. UK government flirted with changing the law to permit what we currently label as undertaking but bottled it (in the same stupid way the don't allow you to turn left on red). Now our 3 lane motorways are effectively reduced to two lanes due to lane 2 hogging.

Weaving in and out of the inside lane isn't s good idea either basically use s bit of common sense if your in the middle lane and you know you are going to overtaking in say 20 secs time no point in going into the slow lane for 10 secs in fact it's planks like this that cause accidents I've had a few idiots over the years who obviously think u have been in the middle lane for too long so what they do is overtake me then almost cut me up by pulling over to the inside lane and then within a few seconds there back out into the outside lane overtaking again - idiots

When I was driving in France earlier this year they kept the right indicator on when in overtaking lane to signal that they plan to pull back in (when safe to do so)

I would let you in...I'd give you a little flash of my lights too. It'd be a lovely interchange that would restore your faith in mankind.

You think people won't, so you drive badly and become the anti-Christ.

And moving out to lane 3 is ok...if it's just me and you. But chances are it's not. Which is why lane 3 becomes chocka...and then means there's traffic jams.

Stand on a motorway bridge and play 'which lane is busiest'. It's usually lane 3, followed by lane 2. Which is upside down...surely? And that's because of people like you.

So come on, this will be therapeutic for both of us. Admit you're selfish and lazy and we can all move on from this and have a happy Christmas.

Sweet, that's the stocking fillers sorted

It's also just as selfish and lazy to expect me to pull inbetween the lorries for you to pass when if you were less selfish and lazy you would indicate and move into lane 3!

How is me moving into lane one where the traffic is moving 20mph slower only to pull back into lane 2 after accelerating or braking and changing lanes!? Knowing my luck you would probably flash me claiming I had cut you up! :laughing:
Why are you not pulling in behind me, then there is no issue? After all you are so law abiding you won't be speeding.

Well smelt, Voodoo.

Tempted by this deal as a second car, hot deal!

Just bought a loaded i3 and it is brilliant. If you haven't driven a EV or Hybrid before and have doubts, go test one. You wont want to get back in a petrol or diesel again...

Come on guys it's xmas, Goodwill to all men and all that :smiley: The real problem is there's far too many cars on the road!

Really interested in this, but 8k miles is way too low for me, does anyone know how it would stand with upping the milage?
Thanks in advance.

I get it. It's harder to drive properly. It's easier to stay in the middle lane.
It also causes problems...granted not for you, but the two mile tailback behind you and everyone trying to get past you.

So, you're selfish and lazy. If you know it and admit it that's ok. I hate you but it's ok, you're honest.
Just don't try and justify it as the right thing to do. It's not. It's illegal and selfish and makes the road more dangerous, and you don't care.

Be up front about it.

Yes indeed, and therein lies the rub. It has to be company business which of course excludes driving to and from your normal place of work. Not everybody knows that (surprisingly).

Maybe if everyone kept two chevrons apart like they're supposed to it wouldn't be an issue.

But sadly Royals it usually doesn't work like that.
So you pull into lane one between the gap in the lorries and the plank that was behind you doesn't accelerate past you. So you either have to accelerate and pull back in front of him or slow down to avoid hitting the lorry.
Or maybe you don't have this issue as you are glued to lane 3 in your S3. :wink:

Are you wearing Lynx?

don't be fooled by the MPG figures, google real world mpg on the mercedes c350e for a comparison, these cars are only going to be more eco if your typical journeys are covered by the battery charge, when they are out of charge you are way better off with a diesel

Even better see the stats for c350e drivers on fuelly
http://www.fuelly.com/car/mercedes-benz/c350e-plug-in-hybrid/2016/aesthete/392191

If I didn't have a car on lease right now already I would have gone for this.

Yes - sorry, my mistake. Its advisory fuel rates that can be used. 13p
Assuming the PHEV will return 20 miles on a full charge, that should still make a healthy profit.

anyone know of real life MPG figures on this car? (is there a 2015 model to compare too?)

also how much does the charging point cost to fit?

actually the excess costs aren't normally that high on the mileage, it usually correlates to the depreciation each extra mile adds, so my merc c220 cost me 9p a mile extra.

Cracking deal I am very tempted and 8000 miles per annum is sufficient to me. Lease cars are certainly the way forward with some great deals to be sought!

Have some heat!

You really are a bit of a self-righteous tool aren't you! You intentionally stayed in the middle lane? You realise idiots like you cause accidents by not keeping left - which is the highway code. Are you above the law? When you don't understand economics and drive like this you really must be a moron.

Why? Yes lane one was mostly taken up by lorries and a few cars. On the odd occasion the lane was clear I pulled in and on the odd occasion I used lane 3. Sadly I couldnt stay at 77MPH for the whole journey due to traffic build up. This is how the motorway works. Driving at a constant speed is not what causes the concertina effect at all. Changes of speed is more of a likely cause. Most of the issues were when one German car wanted to go faster than another German car in lane 3! I'm pretty sure I was not flashed by any car on the day, but it was in the day so can't be 100% sure.

Guessing you drive a German car or are you just Ronnie Pickering! :smiley:

Bit harsh he did say he was in the middle lane, so anyone who wanted to zoom past could do so in the outside lane?

What a shame you weren't nicked for hogging an overtaking lane. You had the wherewithal to count the nation of manufacture of cars passing you but not to actually drive properly. Or are you going to say lane one was completely full and there was no way you could possibly pull in. That kind of driving is what causes slow traffic movement and concertina effects as everyone has to pull around you. The fact you were doing a calculated 77 mph suggests you have a certain self-righteousness about the whole thing - you don't really want to 'speed' so you went for speed limit + 10% and then just sat in the overtaking lane with the likely internal dialogue of "I'm going as fast as anyone should be so I'm not pulling in". As you got continually flashed by the german car owners wanting to pass you. Knob.

pretty good deal for a pretty good car

No...based on a value of spending £8k for a car this is a very good option....that is the deal being discussed. The days of stereotyping drivers by their car are long gone now as better cars are becoming more achievable than ever before.

the buy vs lease debate is getting old now.. its better to discuss if its tax efficient or not for one man ltds

Buy things that appreciate. Lease things that depreciate. Simple rule of economics....but I still love the idiots who think a 4 year old Focus being bought for £8k (which means you lose £8k of your equity) which you have to maintain (and also drive compared to this) and then have the hassle of selling on to other idiots is better than a no hassle very good car for two years.

so wouldnt it be better to claim mileage for 'business use' on your own personal car and use the company car as a 'back up' or 'loading/unloading'

If it was a Victoria's Secret model, I give her the benefit of the doubt. Sadly that's never happened to me yet.

Ah nice if metallic is included, black is pretty boring.
Estoril is a nice colour but msport only IIRC. That leaves Imperial Blue which is so dark it's basically black and Mediterranean Blue which usually looks purple.

The Tazanite blue (which I think is the one in the pic) looks amazing but not sure if you can have it on SE/Sport, bit pricey too at about 1400 quid!

The "45p upto 10,000 miles & 25p after" are for using your own Private Car on Company Business. If you lease a car through your Limited Company you can't claim that amount - and you are liable for Company Car Tax.

44 g/km CO2
That's crazy low

Anyone used G2L before?

Got a one man band ltd company, read all about how its not tax efficient due to bik tax etc, anyone know if its actually worth doing to get something like this? I don't mind paying a few hundred extra over the term for the benefit

This is incredibly hot. I pay £255 a month to PCP my Nissan Leaf Tekna over 2 years. £281 for a BMW PHEV is very, very good indeed. If only my circumstances were different I'd be all over this.

Yes I know. :smiley: But in general it is mostly German cars. I drove down to London from Nottingham a few months back and stayed in the middle lane for probably 85-90% of the journey with the cruise control on at 77MPH. To pass the time near Luton we counted the cars that went past us in the outside lane. Out of 100 cars/vans 77 were German.

good price.
I had a similar offer email from elsewhere.

£7k over 2 years? You can get a Focus just out of warranty for £8k, sell it on for £5k in two years and you're £4k up on this deal.

This is a fairly 2000s stereotype, the current tailgater car of choice are Audis (in fact any Volkswagen Group car), it's quite widely known. It's probably helped by Audi dumping lots of A3, A4 and A6 on fleet buyers at silly prices (under £200 a month).

Well on that note you won't be buying this BMW either! To be the most economic you will buy/lease (depending on overall cost value) the cheapest car that is fit for purpose, most reliable and has the lowest running costs. So that is this car out the equation.

If you want a car for not signaling, cutting people up, tailgating and generally driving like a tool this would be great! :smiley:

No, it's not a non-story. For the vast majority, if that is the only problem that's fine, but if they actively engaged in software-cheating what else is going on that you don't know about - yes, it sounds a bit tin-hat but don't you question someone's integrity after that?

If someone broke into your house and got caught, would you trust them again?

Cold it's a car

A great deal if you're the kind of person who buys a new car every couple of years. If you hold onto your cars for 4 or 5 years+ then it's a poor deal.

N.b. this wouldn't rival a 335d, nor a 330d. It's performance is more in line with the 325d.

It makes me laugh how many posts in this thread are nothing to do with the actual car in the deal! People suggesting alternative vehicles as 'they' prefer them, but not actually mentioning any deals as such. Seems like a good deal on the face of it, but I expect to see more electric vehicle deals as the months go by...

Not sure if you get the Type 2 Charging Cable with this for free (or as a paid for extra) or just the standard 3 Pin slow charger, but I got a spare Type 2 cable for my BMW i3 here; http://www.4ev.eu/bmw-330e-ev-charging-cable-type-2-to-type-2 if anyone is in need. Prices seemed reasonable and the cable arrived very quickly bu courier.

Is it still legal for them to claim 150mpg? :stuck_out_tongue:

I don't get the the i8, it's slower than a model s, more expensive, considerably more to run and maintain, less practical, slower, did I mentions slower??? Realworld mpg figures are close to what conventional cars are getting anyway well worse, even my old diesel is 0-60 in 6.5 seconds, so yes this is faster. But that's a car that is 24k new (on a now 10 yr old engine) does 50mpg, I get the I need to be green and I love bmw, but ... Seriously...

I guess if your a sucker for polishing ackward cars this is the car for you mind!

Still if you actually want one this is a good deal, just say you want one because it looks cool and or has a BMW as logically those are the only reasons

Pretty sure a Volvo v60 hybrid beats this thing too, cheaper, half the fuel costs, greater comfort and 300hp awd! Although reviews say its block is not refined, you wont find many owners disliking them

Very tempted! Been thinking of calling fleetdrive-electric to see what they can do. Need to double the milage though!

I guess this will be only on the free colours (e.g black) and the blue as shown above will cost 600 quid extra? Shame as it looks amazing in the blue.

This is still a non-story: the UK public bought on the basis of low CO2 emissions and these have been proven to be accurate within 1%. The American issue was about NOx and Europe has higher NOx limits than the USA.

Cracking deal for a no-doubt cracking vehicle. Shame though, I did almost 20k in my C-Class in Year one, so wouldn't be suitable for me! Bit of an oxymoron, restricting mileage on a car that gives alleged 148mpg...

Select Contracts want £224.39 plus £2019.49 deposit and gives you 10k. That's for a personal lease.

I don't just want one, I need one.

The CVT isn't amazing but it's well built, reliable and well fitted out. The Golf GTE is a PHEV not a hybrid as such and personally I wouldn't want a VW until this whole fiasco over emissions is sorted (what else has been swept under the carpet?) - also they have a poor image, the number of Passat CC and Golf drivers joining the Audi driving brigade is shocking!

Don't get a Lexus, the gearbox is terrible and the fuel economy not so great. As people have said above, get a Golf GTE instead.

Good deal but I can't understand why they didn't make this an xdrive model like the upcoming 225xe.

Someone gets it :sunglasses:
I did do that and have a Lexus hybrid and something else for the weekend. PHEV probably would suit me well if they made one though.

Dad still has the Audi, although I sent him a link to this deal last night so you never know.
My Astra is still faultless after 5 years and has 69,000 miles of warranty left, although I'm considering a change for a larger car I won't be selling the Astra until the warranty is up.

You're better off getting a couple of Lexi (plural), they're the Japanese Mercedes.

Hmm, would prefer Golf GTE to be honest.

Cold.

Good deal

Your dad has traded his astra in for a second hand Skoda then? :man:

Drive a fairly quick BMW or pay over a quid a mile to be transported around in a sick stained Skoda?
Easy choice.

Smiechlem xD

Low milers should be looking at a taxis/minicabs as you're looking at a similar cost.

8000 miles a year just isn't enough for most people and the excess penalties won't be good.
OK for someone who can absolutely guarantee they will not exceed that though.

2 hours charge time. Thats more trips to ikea then.

If it is anything like the i8 in terms of real world MPG expect 50% or less of the stated figures.
Loads of i8 owners are saying the MPG figures are way off.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=818773

Rent a car?

Cold.

Seems like a decent deal. I'm mad though so I'd seriously like to lease a BMW i3, however there's no great deals on them that I can find.

Personal at just over £300pm: http://www.fleetsauce.co.uk/offers/bmw-3-series-330e-2-0-phev-sport-auto/101

​Does somebody want their teddy back? :wink:

Another Mercedes C350e owner here, I have to also say it gets nowhere near any of the figures quoted for mpg and miles on electric. Without a charge the car probably averages 30-35mpg in hybrid mode and 9ish miles in traffic on battery.

PHEV's are excellent for short journeys where they can be plugged in but over long journeys a diesel wins hands down.

That said, it's a no brainer for me with the company car tax being so low the above is more than made up for.

Haha.
Merry Christmas!!

Interesting car for sure, especially as it dodges the congestion charge.

Oh sorry, did you not realise it costs money to recharge the battery?
Perhaps travelling round town on battery is OK for old grannies, I doubt this would suit most people?

Silly of me to share some valid advice about hybrids or perhaps I should mention it's actually a Plug in hybrid not a hybrid Mr perfect!

How silly of me to miss that. Thanks! :smiley:

Manual or automatic?

waiting for personal then im all over it :smiley:

Nice

This or the previously posted merc Benz E220?

Smoking Hot!!!

148 mpg is impressive but way out of my price range 3500 a year