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krishman
22 Dec 15
Hot deal on the G2L site for a car that has only just been announced by BMW. Appears to be valid for business users, unsure for personal. Due to be released 1st March 2016 so expect delivery around then.

Sounds like an extremely impressive car to rival the 335d, highlights are;

List - £34,235
148.7 MPG (!)
248 BHP
420 NM Torque (!)
0-62 MPH - 6.1 seconds
Top speed - 140 MPH
25 Mile emission-free electric-only range
44 g/km CO2 (!)
Fuel Range - 375 miles
Recharge time- 2 hours

Also see;
http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicles/3series/sedan/2015/showroom/bmw_edrive.html
Top comments
awt to grimboj2
22 Dec 15 59 #38
I think you can also get a Bicycle for £50 , sell it on for free after two years and you're £6950 up :wink:
Retro89
22 Dec 15 58 #21
https://i.gyazo.com/e6fc507bbd07200f1f5d5f0609abcb02.png
cynikill to grimboj2
22 Dec 15 42 #35
​Really, you can buy a second hand car cheaper? Wow, thanks for that, I guess you have killed the leasing industry with one little insight.
S c 0 TT y to richard0000
22 Dec 15 36 #28
Clown.

Voted hot.
All comments (273)
paneds
22 Dec 15 #1
148 mpg is impressive but way out of my price range 3500 a year
Billythebubble
22 Dec 15 3 #2
Good luck with 148 mpg, my company leased 5 Mitshibishi outlander PHEV and we only get 35-74mpg nowhere near 148mpg?

0-62 in 6.1 secs is great for any petrol head, not as quick as my Mercedes C350e hehe

Picture link appears to show 340 Mondeo not 330 unless I'm mistaken?
plewis00 to Billythebubble
22 Dec 15 1 #8
Won't this be completely dependent on how many miles you do before the battery runs out - if your commute is under 25 miles and you recharge fully each day, by 'normal MPG' calculations you would get infinite MPG.

Of course, you're forgetting that people with Mercs are just sa-a-ad!
grudas to Billythebubble
22 Dec 15 1 #24
​because all electric cars are the same? one is a an SUV other is a saloon, different tech, engine etc! the only thing to compare here is the fact that both are electric hybrids.

340 Mondeo? what is that even.. picture shows a 3 series BMW.
djmackie2000 to Billythebubble
4 Feb 16 #247
My BMW 320D 57 plate gets 49-55MPG. (half city and half motorway). might looks at an electric car when they can do 300+miles.
Fernie10 to Billythebubble
11 Mar 16 #271
How you getting on with the Mercedes 350e, thinking of getting one to replace my Chevy Volt
mjccam
22 Dec 15 2 #3
Smoking Hot!!!
Lazyoaf
22 Dec 15 1 #4
8000 miles a year just isn't enough for most people and the excess penalties won't be good.
OK for someone who can absolutely guarantee they will not exceed that though.
markymark34 to Lazyoaf
22 Dec 15 1 #7
Haven't checked this deal but excess miles can be as low as 6p plus vat.
oddballjamie to Lazyoaf
22 Dec 15 #16
Yearly average miles is less than 8,000, technically it's enough for 'most' people.

High milers should be looking at the diesel variant.
aljack to Lazyoaf
22 Dec 15 #36
​depends what the extra mile cost is
awt
22 Dec 15 #5
This or the previously posted merc Benz E220?
leon121
22 Dec 15 #6
Nice
KapA
22 Dec 15 1 #9
waiting for personal then im all over it :smiley:
ajavaid92
22 Dec 15 #10
Manual or automatic?
plewis00 to ajavaid92
22 Dec 15 #11
Auto - it says in the title and it would have to be really with the handling of dual drivetrains.
ajavaid92
22 Dec 15 #12
How silly of me to miss that. Thanks! :smiley:
vulcanproject
22 Dec 15 #13
Interesting car for sure, especially as it dodges the congestion charge.
Billythebubble to vulcanproject
22 Dec 15 #15
All plug in hybrids are automatic.
Billythebubble
22 Dec 15 2 #14
Oh sorry, did you not realise it costs money to recharge the battery?
Perhaps travelling round town on battery is OK for old grannies, I doubt this would suit most people?

Silly of me to share some valid advice about hybrids or perhaps I should mention it's actually a Plug in hybrid not a hybrid Mr perfect!
delboyd
22 Dec 15 1 #17
Hmm, would prefer Golf GTE to be honest.
volksdub to delboyd
23 Dec 15 #44
Agreed
ourdave
22 Dec 15 3 #18
Haha.
Merry Christmas!!
seff_yohanson
22 Dec 15 2 #19
Another Mercedes C350e owner here, I have to also say it gets nowhere near any of the figures quoted for mpg and miles on electric. Without a charge the car probably averages 30-35mpg in hybrid mode and 9ish miles in traffic on battery.

PHEV's are excellent for short journeys where they can be plugged in but over long journeys a diesel wins hands down.

That said, it's a no brainer for me with the company car tax being so low the above is more than made up for.
mdearlove
22 Dec 15 4 #20
Already got one on order - M-Sport version for £261 on personal lease with Select Contracts. Just done the paperwork today. Delivery is April.
onthecheap to mdearlove
22 Dec 15 #30
That's a great deal. What's your mileage allowance?
KapA to mdearlove
26 Dec 15 #178
Just seen this, gonna go with them cheers
Retro89
22 Dec 15 58 #21
https://i.gyazo.com/e6fc507bbd07200f1f5d5f0609abcb02.png
fishmaster to Retro89
22 Dec 15 #25
Turn signals lol.
NinjaDeals to Retro89
29 Jan 16 #233
I don't get the BMW hate on this website. What's your problem? If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Time to upgrade from your 2003 Ford Focus 1.6 Petrol. Sweet ride.
checkcanopy
22 Dec 15 7 #22
​Does somebody want their teddy back? :wink:
donslibi
22 Dec 15 #23
fishmaster
22 Dec 15 #26
Seems like a decent deal. I'm mad though so I'd seriously like to lease a BMW i3, however there's no great deals on them that I can find.
richard0000
22 Dec 15 4 #27
Rent a car?

Cold.
S c 0 TT y to richard0000
22 Dec 15 36 #28
Clown.

Voted hot.
jcluk to richard0000
22 Dec 15 1 #29
F(lease)
Dusterfluster
22 Dec 15 1 #31
If it is anything like the i8 in terms of real world MPG expect 50% or less of the stated figures.
Loads of i8 owners are saying the MPG figures are way off.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=818773
bigweapon07
22 Dec 15 #32
2 hours charge time. Thats more trips to ikea then.
grimboj2
22 Dec 15 2 #33
£7k over 2 years? You can get a Focus just out of warranty for £8k, sell it on for £5k in two years and you're £4k up on this deal.
h41d3r96 to grimboj2
22 Dec 15 20 #34
​focus is nothing compared to this And this is a Brand new car
cynikill to grimboj2
22 Dec 15 42 #35
​Really, you can buy a second hand car cheaper? Wow, thanks for that, I guess you have killed the leasing industry with one little insight.
awt to grimboj2
22 Dec 15 59 #38
I think you can also get a Bicycle for £50 , sell it on for free after two years and you're £6950 up :wink:
fishmaster to grimboj2
23 Dec 15 5 #62
Yeah but what happens if you want a BMW 330e? I looked at a £7K Ford Focus like you suggested and yes the name is different but so is the car, quite a lot different. It looks different, the inside is different, the engine is different, the performance is different, and when I say different as I've previously done I mean not as good as the BMW. My guess is a brand new £35K car is different from a £7K Ford Focus and that's what you haven't fully understood, just a bit of research I did there in a few seconds, sorry if it's different from your experience.
M_z to grimboj2
23 Dec 15 3 #76
In Auguest, you could have invested £7K in Leicester City being top of the Premier League at Christmas, and be winning enough to retire on!!! :smiley:
andiejn
22 Dec 15 #37
Low milers should be looking at a taxis/minicabs as you're looking at a similar cost.
Martinwmg
22 Dec 15 1 #39
Smiechlem xD
oddballjamie
22 Dec 15 2 #40
Drive a fairly quick BMW or pay over a quid a mile to be transported around in a sick stained Skoda?
Easy choice.
biggysilly
22 Dec 15 #41
Your dad has traded his astra in for a second hand Skoda then? :man:
sally09
22 Dec 15 #42
Good deal
ricey
23 Dec 15 2 #43
Cold.
MartynFX88
23 Dec 15 4 #45
You're better off getting a couple of Lexi (plural), they're the Japanese Mercedes.
austinc
23 Dec 15 7 #46
If it depreceates, rent it, if it appreciates, buy it
oddballjamie to austinc
23 Dec 15 5 #52
What if it depreciates?
118luke to austinc
24 Dec 15 #148
Not entirely accurate. if you're Low mileage = rent it, if you're high mileage = buy it - would be a more accurate statement
matt3454 to austinc
30 Jan 16 #238
If you can't afford it, rent it. If you can afford it.... well you're probably smart enough to neither rent it or buy it.

Unless you are very conscious about keeping up with the Jones'.
KitKatFox
23 Dec 15 #47
Good deal but I can't understand why they didn't make this an xdrive model like the upcoming 225xe.
plewis00 to KitKatFox
23 Dec 15 #50
Because the 3 series is a rear-drive car by its nature and xDrive adds weight, complexity, cost and reduces efficiency, none of which the average PHEV owner would want. The 225xe is FWD in layout naturally as it's the Active Tourer chassis so it's probably ICE power to the front and electric only to the rear (no drive shafts or complex mechanics).
oddballjamie
23 Dec 15 #48
Dad still has the Audi, although I sent him a link to this deal last night so you never know.
My Astra is still faultless after 5 years and has 69,000 miles of warranty left, although I'm considering a change for a larger car I won't be selling the Astra until the warranty is up.
plewis00
23 Dec 15 #49
Someone gets it :sunglasses:
I did do that and have a Lexus hybrid and something else for the weekend. PHEV probably would suit me well if they made one though.
onthecheap
23 Dec 15 #51
Don't get a Lexus, the gearbox is terrible and the fuel economy not so great. As people have said above, get a Golf GTE instead.
plewis00
23 Dec 15 #53
The CVT isn't amazing but it's well built, reliable and well fitted out. The Golf GTE is a PHEV not a hybrid as such and personally I wouldn't want a VW until this whole fiasco over emissions is sorted (what else has been swept under the carpet?) - also they have a poor image, the number of Passat CC and Golf drivers joining the Audi driving brigade is shocking!
SteadVex
23 Dec 15 #54
I don't get the the i8, it's slower than a model s, more expensive, considerably more to run and maintain, less practical, slower, did I mentions slower??? Realworld mpg figures are close to what conventional cars are getting anyway well worse, even my old diesel is 0-60 in 6.5 seconds, so yes this is faster. But that's a car that is 24k new (on a now 10 yr old engine) does 50mpg, I get the I need to be green and I love bmw, but ... Seriously...

I guess if your a sucker for polishing ackward cars this is the car for you mind!

Still if you actually want one this is a good deal, just say you want one because it looks cool and or has a BMW as logically those are the only reasons

Pretty sure a Volvo v60 hybrid beats this thing too, cheaper, half the fuel costs, greater comfort and 300hp awd! Although reviews say its block is not refined, you wont find many owners disliking them
fishmaster to SteadVex
23 Dec 15 1 #61
The i8 looks amazing I think, nothing else like it on the road. The Tesla Model S looks like a cross between a Maserati Ghibli and Jaguar XF with the worst styling cues from both. I'm sure it's a great car. The i8 really stands out and 0-60 in 4.4seconds is good enough for most people. The i8 is not a track day car, it has skinny wheels, but it's still fun on the open road.
HutchHutchy
23 Dec 15 1 #55
I don't just want one, I need one.
forzaf1
23 Dec 15 2 #56
Select Contracts want £224.39 plus £2019.49 deposit and gives you 10k. That's for a personal lease.
united4eva
23 Dec 15 1 #57
Cracking deal for a no-doubt cracking vehicle. Shame though, I did almost 20k in my C-Class in Year one, so wouldn't be suitable for me! Bit of an oxymoron, restricting mileage on a car that gives alleged 148mpg...
m5rcc
23 Dec 15 1 #58
This is still a non-story: the UK public bought on the basis of low CO2 emissions and these have been proven to be accurate within 1%. The American issue was about NOx and Europe has higher NOx limits than the USA.
jacksonliam
23 Dec 15 #59
Very tempted! Been thinking of calling fleetdrive-electric to see what they can do. Need to double the milage though!

I guess this will be only on the free colours (e.g black) and the blue as shown above will cost 600 quid extra? Shame as it looks amazing in the blue.
krishman to jacksonliam
23 Dec 15 1 #60
It says the metallic colours are also included, if so Metallic Estoril Blue is the one to go for imo
Scorpion
23 Dec 15 #63
A great deal if you're the kind of person who buys a new car every couple of years. If you hold onto your cars for 4 or 5 years+ then it's a poor deal.

N.b. this wouldn't rival a 335d, nor a 330d. It's performance is more in line with the 325d.
markymark34 to Scorpion
23 Dec 15 #67
Agreed. Would need a good test drive in one to see how it compared. I guess a two year lease is a fairly safe way of having a go in one without worrying about reliability or resale at the end.
krishman to Scorpion
23 Dec 15 #68
No such thing as a 325d anymore, and the 320d has 193 BHP, as opposed to the 262 BHP of the 330d. Remember this would have more weight however, and this is more economical for short journeys as opposed to longer journeys.
parkersblock
23 Dec 15 #64
Is it still legal for them to claim 150mpg? :stuck_out_tongue:
Henniee to parkersblock
23 Dec 15 1 #65
They don't they claim 148 :wink:
NinjaBaz
23 Dec 15 #66
It makes me laugh how many posts in this thread are nothing to do with the actual car in the deal! People suggesting alternative vehicles as 'they' prefer them, but not actually mentioning any deals as such. Seems like a good deal on the face of it, but I expect to see more electric vehicle deals as the months go by...

Not sure if you get the Type 2 Charging Cable with this for free (or as a paid for extra) or just the standard 3 Pin slow charger, but I got a spare Type 2 cable for my BMW i3 here; http://www.4ev.eu/bmw-330e-ev-charging-cable-type-2-to-type-2 if anyone is in need. Prices seemed reasonable and the cable arrived very quickly bu courier.
Stiz2theMiz
23 Dec 15 3 #69
Buy things that appreciate. Lease things that depreciate. Simple rule of economics....but I still love the idiots who think a 4 year old Focus being bought for £8k (which means you lose £8k of your equity) which you have to maintain (and also drive compared to this) and then have the hassle of selling on to other idiots is better than a no hassle very good car for two years.
barbiegirl to Stiz2theMiz
23 Dec 15 3 #91
It's in EVERY SINGLE lease thread on HUKD. Why rent a car / I can buy X for £Y.. It's sooooo effin tedious. I swear the vast majority of the UK public have lost any trace of critical thinking ability. A quick look at the pointless and inaccurate memes regurgitated on Facebook confirms my suspicions.
stevennoad
23 Dec 15 1 #70
Cold it's a car
RCUK to stevennoad
23 Dec 15 #71
How insightful.
plewis00
23 Dec 15 #72
No, it's not a non-story. For the vast majority, if that is the only problem that's fine, but if they actively engaged in software-cheating what else is going on that you don't know about - yes, it sounds a bit tin-hat but don't you question someone's integrity after that?

If someone broke into your house and got caught, would you trust them again?
GAVINLEWISHUKD
23 Dec 15 #73
Well on that note you won't be buying this BMW either! To be the most economic you will buy/lease (depending on overall cost value) the cheapest car that is fit for purpose, most reliable and has the lowest running costs. So that is this car out the equation.

If you want a car for not signaling, cutting people up, tailgating and generally driving like a tool this would be great! :smiley:
KapA
23 Dec 15 1 #74
Got a one man band ltd company, read all about how its not tax efficient due to bik tax etc, anyone know if its actually worth doing to get something like this? I don't mind paying a few hundred extra over the term for the benefit
plewis00 to KapA
23 Dec 15 #77
I looked into a 330d before but you're best off going to your accountant. On the BIK front, this is in the lowest bracket so it's good at that angle but you can get given bad advice by people saying you can reclaim all the VAT and fuel, etc. most of which isn't true. Your accountant can give you the most accurate, tailored advice.
bojangles to KapA
23 Dec 15 #81
The BIK on these are a lot lower (Starting at 5%) - so can be worth it.
Also you can really rinse on the mileage allowances. 45p upto 10,000 miles & 25p after.
crgritchie to KapA
23 Dec 15 1 #82
I work as a contractor through a 1-man Ltd co as well. Every advice I've read or taken on this consistently says no to a company vehicle and yes to claiming personal mileage on your own vehicle. Though I should add these are mainly in the context of buying rather than leasing.
plewis00
23 Dec 15 1 #75
This is a fairly 2000s stereotype, the current tailgater car of choice are Audis (in fact any Volkswagen Group car), it's quite widely known. It's probably helped by Audi dumping lots of A3, A4 and A6 on fleet buyers at silly prices (under £200 a month).
bojangles
23 Dec 15 #78
good price.
I had a similar offer email from elsewhere.
GAVINLEWISHUKD
23 Dec 15 #79
Yes I know. :smiley: But in general it is mostly German cars. I drove down to London from Nottingham a few months back and stayed in the middle lane for probably 85-90% of the journey with the cruise control on at 77MPH. To pass the time near Luton we counted the cars that went past us in the outside lane. Out of 100 cars/vans 77 were German.
qwerta369
23 Dec 15 1 #80
This is incredibly hot. I pay £255 a month to PCP my Nissan Leaf Tekna over 2 years. £281 for a BMW PHEV is very, very good indeed. If only my circumstances were different I'd be all over this.
dr_joolz
23 Dec 15 #83
I might be completely ignorant but wouldn't leasing mean you flush 7k over 2 years down the toilet plus any company car tax you have to pay if you're leasing for work? so easily 13k over 2 years gone?
xycom to dr_joolz
23 Dec 15 1 #144
The cost of the lease £7K or thereabouts come off the profits of the company before any drawings so no tax paid on that £7K (compared to drawing that cost out of the business and buying/leasing the car privately). Based on 40% income tax, company car tax on this is going to be less than £100/mth from memory?? If you draw money out of your business as salary and pay 40% tax on it then you would probably be better off with this as a company car and paying that tax charge, but if you predominantly draw cash out as dividend then maybe not.

But IANAA so make your own calculations or take professional advice!
islamkhan97
23 Dec 15 #84
Anyone used G2L before?
Cyrus
23 Dec 15 #85
44 g/km CO2
That's crazy low
IanElk
23 Dec 15 1 #86
The "45p upto 10,000 miles & 25p after" are for using your own Private Car on Company Business. If you lease a car through your Limited Company you can't claim that amount - and you are liable for Company Car Tax.
tazo101
23 Dec 15 1 #87
As an Audi Etron owner ( very happy) I am on 226mpg total 135 litres bought 6060 miles covered.
However I bought as knew (most) journeys are less than 25 miles. You doing more than that, expect 40-50mpg per trip.
deeky to tazo101
24 Dec 15 #157
I had never heard of the Etron. I just had a quick look, and I know I must be missing something, but the cheapest I can see is about £35k for an A3? Tell me what I'm missing?
jacksonliam
23 Dec 15 #88
Ah nice if metallic is included, black is pretty boring.
Estoril is a nice colour but msport only IIRC. That leaves Imperial Blue which is so dark it's basically black and Mediterranean Blue which usually looks purple.

The Tazanite blue (which I think is the one in the pic) looks amazing but not sure if you can have it on SE/Sport, bit pricey too at about 1400 quid!
fishmaster
23 Dec 15 1 #89
If it was a Victoria's Secret model, I give her the benefit of the doubt. Sadly that's never happened to me yet.
freakazoid789
23 Dec 15 #90
so wouldnt it be better to claim mileage for 'business use' on your own personal car and use the company car as a 'back up' or 'loading/unloading'
freakazoid789
23 Dec 15 2 #92
the buy vs lease debate is getting old now.. its better to discuss if its tax efficient or not for one man ltds
Stiz2theMiz
23 Dec 15 #93
No...based on a value of spending £8k for a car this is a very good option....that is the deal being discussed. The days of stereotyping drivers by their car are long gone now as better cars are becoming more achievable than ever before.
5557223
23 Dec 15 #94
pretty good deal for a pretty good car
barbiegirl
23 Dec 15 13 #95
What a shame you weren't nicked for hogging an overtaking lane. You had the wherewithal to count the nation of manufacture of cars passing you but not to actually drive properly. Or are you going to say lane one was completely full and there was no way you could possibly pull in. That kind of driving is what causes slow traffic movement and concertina effects as everyone has to pull around you. The fact you were doing a calculated 77 mph suggests you have a certain self-righteousness about the whole thing - you don't really want to 'speed' so you went for speed limit + 10% and then just sat in the overtaking lane with the likely internal dialogue of "I'm going as fast as anyone should be so I'm not pulling in". As you got continually flashed by the german car owners wanting to pass you. Knob.
ifa
23 Dec 15 1 #96
When I was driving in France earlier this year they kept the right indicator on when in overtaking lane to signal that they plan to pull back in (when safe to do so)
barbiegirl to ifa
23 Dec 15 #127
In the 70's this was the explanation of why Citroen didn't fit self-cancelling indicators...
MrB_1977
23 Dec 15 1 #97
Bit harsh he did say he was in the middle lane, so anyone who wanted to zoom past could do so in the outside lane?
GAVINLEWISHUKD
23 Dec 15 1 #98
Why? Yes lane one was mostly taken up by lorries and a few cars. On the odd occasion the lane was clear I pulled in and on the odd occasion I used lane 3. Sadly I couldnt stay at 77MPH for the whole journey due to traffic build up. This is how the motorway works. Driving at a constant speed is not what causes the concertina effect at all. Changes of speed is more of a likely cause. Most of the issues were when one German car wanted to go faster than another German car in lane 3! I'm pretty sure I was not flashed by any car on the day, but it was in the day so can't be 100% sure.

Guessing you drive a German car or are you just Ronnie Pickering! :smiley:
Stiz2theMiz
23 Dec 15 4 #99
You really are a bit of a self-righteous tool aren't you! You intentionally stayed in the middle lane? You realise idiots like you cause accidents by not keeping left - which is the highway code. Are you above the law? When you don't understand economics and drive like this you really must be a moron.
bigup
23 Dec 15 1 #100
anyone know of real life MPG figures on this car? (is there a 2015 model to compare too?)

also how much does the charging point cost to fit?
freakazoid789 to bigup
23 Dec 15 1 #104
tempted too but no idea on the real mpg figure using petrol (all we know is it can go 25 miles using electric)
apparently they cost £185 from chargemaster with access to a £700 grant
ledzappa
23 Dec 15 #101
Cracking deal I am very tempted and 8000 miles per annum is sufficient to me. Lease cars are certainly the way forward with some great deals to be sought!

Have some heat!
wizz1234
23 Dec 15 1 #102
Weaving in and out of the inside lane isn't s good idea either basically use s bit of common sense if your in the middle lane and you know you are going to overtaking in say 20 secs time no point in going into the slow lane for 10 secs in fact it's planks like this that cause accidents I've had a few idiots over the years who obviously think u have been in the middle lane for too long so what they do is overtake me then almost cut me up by pulling over to the inside lane and then within a few seconds there back out into the outside lane overtaking again - idiots
ourdave to wizz1234
23 Dec 15 6 #106
We drive on the left. It's a simple rule.
The people that do that are trying to make a point to you. Namely, that you're a pudding.

Drive on the left, move out to overtake, move back in. The roads would be so much clearer if middle lan drivers didn't exist.
royals to wizz1234
23 Dec 15 1 #113
Selfish people like you clog up the roads and should be banned from driving. You cause accidents because those on the inside lane have to drive to perform a riskier manoeuvre to pass you by going to the overtaking lane and joining much faster moving traffic.

The steering wheel and indicators are there for a reason, use them.
barbiegirl to wizz1234
23 Dec 15 1 #128
If they're going faster than you (which they must be if they've gone past you and are now in front of you?) how can they "almost cut you up". I translate your point as "and that makes me nervous". That's about you, not them or their driving..
retrend
23 Dec 15 #103
actually the excess costs aren't normally that high on the mileage, it usually correlates to the depreciation each extra mile adds, so my merc c220 cost me 9p a mile extra.
MIDURIX
23 Dec 15 1 #105
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/0/0d/Clown-car.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20091111185708
bojangles
23 Dec 15 #107
Yes - sorry, my mistake. Its advisory fuel rates that can be used. 13p
Assuming the PHEV will return 20 miles on a full charge, that should still make a healthy profit.
Sunni
23 Dec 15 #108
If I didn't have a car on lease right now already I would have gone for this.
tallpete33
23 Dec 15 1 #109
If you think you're going to get anywhere near 148 mpg you need your bumps felt
tazo101 to tallpete33
23 Dec 15 #136
Do you want to feel my bumps?
Press here to see 224mpg bumps
releaseyourself
23 Dec 15 #110
Tempted by this deal as a second car, hot deal!

Just bought a loaded i3 and it is brilliant. If you haven't driven a EV or Hybrid before and have doubts, go test one. You wont want to get back in a petrol or diesel again...
Sharpharp to releaseyourself
23 Dec 15 #120
You will if your battery conks out stuck in traffic.... Hybrids add more weight, so even less MPG...
Until you get a long range on pure battery, these are a waste of money buying. The cost of a replacement battery alone would get you a brand new runaround car. Renting however is a different story.
martmitch
23 Dec 15 #111
don't be fooled by the MPG figures, google real world mpg on the mercedes c350e for a comparison, these cars are only going to be more eco if your typical journeys are covered by the battery charge, when they are out of charge you are way better off with a diesel

Even better see the stats for c350e drivers on fuelly
http://www.fuelly.com/car/mercedes-benz/c350e-plug-in-hybrid/2016/aesthete/392191
PaulTheYid
23 Dec 15 1 #112
Are you wearing Lynx?
GAVINLEWISHUKD
23 Dec 15 1 #114
But sadly Royals it usually doesn't work like that.
So you pull into lane one between the gap in the lorries and the plank that was behind you doesn't accelerate past you. So you either have to accelerate and pull back in front of him or slow down to avoid hitting the lorry.
Or maybe you don't have this issue as you are glued to lane 3 in your S3. :wink:
NitrousUK
23 Dec 15 1 #115
Maybe if everyone kept two chevrons apart like they're supposed to it wouldn't be an issue.
smiler03
23 Dec 15 #116
Yes indeed, and therein lies the rub. It has to be company business which of course excludes driving to and from your normal place of work. Not everybody knows that (surprisingly).
ourdave
23 Dec 15 1 #117
I get it. It's harder to drive properly. It's easier to stay in the middle lane.
It also causes problems...granted not for you, but the two mile tailback behind you and everyone trying to get past you.

So, you're selfish and lazy. If you know it and admit it that's ok. I hate you but it's ok, you're honest.
Just don't try and justify it as the right thing to do. It's not. It's illegal and selfish and makes the road more dangerous, and you don't care.

Be up front about it.
samkillick
23 Dec 15 #118
Really interested in this, but 8k miles is way too low for me, does anyone know how it would stand with upping the milage?
Thanks in advance.
ifa
23 Dec 15 2 #119
Come on guys it's xmas, Goodwill to all men and all that :smiley: The real problem is there's far too many cars on the road!
MartynFX88
23 Dec 15 #121
Well smelt, Voodoo.
GAVINLEWISHUKD
23 Dec 15 1 #122
It's also just as selfish and lazy to expect me to pull inbetween the lorries for you to pass when if you were less selfish and lazy you would indicate and move into lane 3!

How is me moving into lane one where the traffic is moving 20mph slower only to pull back into lane 2 after accelerating or braking and changing lanes!? Knowing my luck you would probably flash me claiming I had cut you up! :laughing:
Why are you not pulling in behind me, then there is no issue? After all you are so law abiding you won't be speeding.
Mikey242
23 Dec 15 #123
Sweet, that's the stocking fillers sorted
hus2k7
23 Dec 15 #124
Does this include insurance
fishmaster to hus2k7
23 Dec 15 1 #125
No and you'd be well advised to take out extra GAP insurance to cover yourself for any losses if the car is written off as if you don't you have to pay the difference which could be literally thousands of £.

This explains it and you can get a quote >

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/gap-insurance
barbiegirl to hus2k7
23 Dec 15 1 #131
Yes, and all the fuel you need and a grant to build a garage if you don't already have one. It's a REALLY good deal.

Are you allowed to vote? I mean general elections not on HUKD ?
ourdave
23 Dec 15 2 #126
I would let you in...I'd give you a little flash of my lights too. It'd be a lovely interchange that would restore your faith in mankind.

You think people won't, so you drive badly and become the anti-Christ.

And moving out to lane 3 is ok...if it's just me and you. But chances are it's not. Which is why lane 3 becomes chocka...and then means there's traffic jams.

Stand on a motorway bridge and play 'which lane is busiest'. It's usually lane 3, followed by lane 2. Which is upside down...surely? And that's because of people like you.

So come on, this will be therapeutic for both of us. Admit you're selfish and lazy and we can all move on from this and have a happy Christmas.
barbiegirl
23 Dec 15 1 #129
Exactly this. UK government flirted with changing the law to permit what we currently label as undertaking but bottled it (in the same stupid way the don't allow you to turn left on red). Now our 3 lane motorways are effectively reduced to two lanes due to lane 2 hogging.
barbiegirl
23 Dec 15 1 #130
My faith is restored. I thought maybe I was the only one who could see that the whole thing has been inverted and lane 3 ends up busier (and 'concertina-ing' like a drunk Frenchman)..
GAVINLEWISHUKD
23 Dec 15 #132
But if you are letting me in you did exactly what was causing the issue in the first place! (Not accelerating past me) :smiley: If you dropped in behind me then when I could pull out and then you could pull out as well. Everybody's happy.

I will happily agree that much of the time lane 3 is very busy but that's not because of me doing 70+ in the middle lane but some lad in a 1.0 corsa in the outside lane not moving into lane 2. :smiley:

If being in the middle lane doing 70+ rather than being in lane 1 doing 56MPH or in lane 3 doing 90+ then yes I'm being selfish and lazy. But then apart from possibly of the lorry drivers who religiously stick to lane 1 so is everybody else!

Merry Xmas. :smiley:
releaseyourself
23 Dec 15 #133
If you use your brain that would never happen. Bmw will pick you up anyway by pressing the SOS button on the roof.

Battery is under warranty for 8 years, how long do most people own a car?

Range all depends on your circumstances, we do 99% local and have a tdi for those 1% long journeys.
karlie88
23 Dec 15 4 #134
I like to drive on the hard shoulder of a motorway. Journey times are halved.

Failing that, drive on the wrong side of the motorway. It's amazing how people seem to get out of the way. Most are quite friendly too, flashing their lights and tooting their horns to say hello.

Anyway, am I allowed to ask a question about this particular deal?
austinc
23 Dec 15 1 #135
sod it, its christmas, just buy it :smile:
muckspreader1
23 Dec 15 #137
wow nice to see bmw are keeping up tradition in producing ugly cars.3500 to rent a car you must be off your head and for a bmw.
Billythebubble
23 Dec 15 #138
For anyone who's interested, the £5k plug in government reduces by 50% after 1st March 16, to get full £5k for cars or £8k max for vans the grant has to be registered with chasis number before 1st March 16
freakazoid789 to Billythebubble
23 Dec 15 #141
apparently its not for lease vehicles.. only with cars purchased in full
wizz1234
23 Dec 15 #139
wizz1234
23 Dec 15 #140
Yea your probably one of those idiots who are cutting people up weaving in and out of the slow lane each time you overtake someone instead of engaging your brain cell and thinking ahead like what's the point into moving into the left lane then 2 seconds latter oh hang on I've got to pull out again to overtake again oh I've overtaken quick lets get back to the slow lane then a few seconds latter oh I've got to overtake again I think you can see where I'm going with this or maybe you can't. Yes I agree people who just sit in the middle lane for mile after mile when there's nothing to overtake in sight are planks
andiejn
23 Dec 15 #142
at least the skoda won't let you down when a little white stuff falls from the skies
xycom
23 Dec 15 #143
The dealer will claim it and it'll come off the list price as part of the sale on behalf of the lease house. Not sure what the list for this car is, but there will be a ceiling list price for PHEV grants which will either see deals getting more expensive on these premium PHEVs or the manfacturers will need to put extra discount in to make up the difference.

Had an email from a lease co that I use for a deal on a C350e the other day - not quite as cheap as this, but considering that there haven't been any notable deals on these two cars in the last month or so, looks like the market is going in the right direction... just wish that I could have waited a few months for a new car!
dnc316
23 Dec 15 #145
Why are some leasing deals business only? Is it because the leasing company can claim the VAT back?
qwerta369
23 Dec 15 #146
I LOLd @ this.
plewis00
24 Dec 15 #147
The whole point of an electric car is you consume zero 'fuel' (or energy) in traffic - there is no idle so you won't conk out in traffic unless you deliberately try to by starting a journey with blatantly not enough charge...
oddballjamie
24 Dec 15 #149
Not accurate either. The more miles you put on the car, the higher the depreciation.
Billythebubble
24 Dec 15 1 #150
Grant is still valid on lease vehicles just signed off my new 3yr lease. Without £5k grant my monthly fee would increase.
Samueltastic
24 Dec 15 #151
Can someone clear something up for me?

does the Initial rental - 9 rental(s) in month 1 equivalent to £1,584.27 mean you pay the first 9 months upfront and then nothing to pay until month 10?

I have just set up a limited company would that be ok for business use even though I'm not sure when ill use my company (Electrical Contractor, on books somewhere at the moment)

Thanks
freakazoid789 to Samueltastic
24 Dec 15 1 #152
basically you will pay 9m (depo) + 23m (monthly)
alternatively this can be calculated as 32 x *your monthly rate*

note: dont forget to add vat
freakazoid789
24 Dec 15 #153
can someone confirm the insurance group, admiral are claiming its group 38
Samueltastic
24 Dec 15 #154
Thanks for clearing that up for me :smiley:
KapA
24 Dec 15 #155
Just got a personal qoute through.

£272 pcm with £2500 upfront 10k 24m 8.2p extra miles.

Very very temping, maintence cover makes it £282 with 10.2p additional milagage.

Im thinking maintenance with a hybrid could be a good shout.

Also this is black or white only with basic trim
karlie88 to KapA
24 Dec 15 #161
Is that inclusive of VAT?

And do you mean 5k pa or 10k pa?

Ta.
BasementPreme to KapA
26 Dec 15 #183
Can i ask how you changed the milage, its not allowing me to change it from 8k, i need 12-15k.

Thanks
qwerta369
24 Dec 15 #156
Is that 2500+(23*272)=£8756 over 24 months?
tazg101 to qwerta369
24 Dec 15 #159
Plus £180 admin fee.
tazg101
24 Dec 15 #158
Had a quote but they quoted me 199 ex vat per month. Was going to go back to them but since it's black or white will leave it. Black gets too dirty and white is the same as every Audi car on the road.
barbiegirl
24 Dec 15 2 #160
Spastic? What decade are you living in? You asked a stupid question - how could something fixed price incorporate something so variably priced? How could an 18 year old be insured on a vehicle like this for £6,700 over two years along with the depreciation too? Had you either paused to think about it or not been super lazy and googled it, you would have realised the answer. To then go and call someone a spastic? Well it's not just unpleasant and out of keeping with contemporary mores, but it's ironic too. Well done.
m5rcc
24 Dec 15 #162
Not even the same context and besides the cheat itself is not very serious. It simply means that the vehicle ECU recognises that the car is not being steered, and in that situation alters the parameters of the engine to reduce NOx emissions to a level below that when the car is being driven normally. So, in traffic, driving slowly in a straight line, NOx would be reduced as it is for the tests and pedestrians on sidewalks in cities would not actually suffer from inhaling too much of the stuff.
KapA
24 Dec 15 #163
Yea its actually £2448 (9 month initial) then 23 x £272/282. 10k miles and yes all including vat
plewis00
24 Dec 15 #164
I fail to understand how you can possibly say 'it's ok to cheat'. Whatever the cheat was or is, it still happened and the company lost its integrity by doing so vs. others who don't. Even if the real world outcome was unaffected, someone or some group at VW decided it was acceptable and not misleading the public, which it was.

Even so I am fairly sure the CO2 emissions were affected to an extent not just NOx.
m5rcc
24 Dec 15 #165
Again, largely irrelevant: MoT tests are changing in 2017 anyway. And from April 2017 annual tax on all new cars will be £140pa regardless of CO2 emissions, plus a £310pa luxury tax for cars over £40,000. So the emphasis was shifting from CO2 tax anyway to favour higher CO2 but lower NOx petrol engines.

Regarding integrity, your argument is more along the lines of saying: 'look, you fibbed big time and the vehicle was mis-sold under the trades descriptions act' because at the end of the day it was a naughty little scam?' Meaning you'd rather sue VW for "cheating" as punishment.

If you can do this, everyone can and if everyone can Volkswagen goes bust. So you can't. Besides which, the mods to comply with EU6 are very minor but the mods to comply with EPA Nox limits are more extensive.
plewis00
24 Dec 15 #166
It deserves to pay the price for its treachery and if it goes 'broke' from people voting with their feet and choosing another non-cheating brand, so be it. I wouldn't buy one, but that's my opinion, if you want to, that's 100% your prerogative.
m5rcc
24 Dec 15 #167
The stupid thing is if VW is guilty then every other manufacturer with approximately the same size engines, power outputs and official emissions must be guilty of something similar. One engine simply cannot churn out 40 times as much NOx as another engine the same size.
seaniboy
25 Dec 15 #168
If I wanted a Mercedes I would, not a BMW clone
qwerta369
25 Dec 15 1 #169
..? Rob a bank? Sell your boat? Go busking? Nothing like an incomplete sentence when trying to make a smart comment.
KapA
25 Dec 15 #170
Still umming about this, starts adding up when you add the extras like cream leather :smirk:
seaniboy
25 Dec 15 #171
Really...see ya later Scrooge Merry grumplings
Phillys1985
25 Dec 15 #172
Was doing some price comparison search for this vehicle among brokers and I managed to find it a few quid cheaper with Vehicles For Business. G2L offer it for £176.03 and Vehicles for Business on same terms have it for £165.65

http://www.vehiclesforbusiness.co.uk/business-lease-cars/bmw/3-series-saloon/3-series-saloon-330e-sport-4dr-step-auto-72173059
KapA
25 Dec 15 #173
Just seen they do an m sport model :smirk: here we go again
Phillys1985
25 Dec 15 #174
Yeap also SE and Luxury
KapA
26 Dec 15 #175
Found the m sport 1850 initial 23x£276 24m 10k.. Got to be done if I can get them to chuck in maintenance :sunglasses: can these things be haghled in?
jacksonliam
26 Dec 15 #176
Where abouts was that?
krishman
26 Dec 15 #179
5k pa for that, it's £306 pm for 10k pa........IMO a lot extra just for the few extras a m sport brings over a sport
Happy_Harris
26 Dec 15 #180
I've just ordered the 330e in luxury trim, it saves me £250 a month on company car tax against a comparative diesel. It's a no brainier for company car drivers. Seemingly customers in the Netherlands have received theirs already. .... I'd love to see a review of the car but can't find one anywhere??
Happy_Harris
26 Dec 15 1 #181
I've just ordered the 330e in luxury trim, it saves me £250 a month on company car tax against a comparative diesel. It's a no brainier for company car drivers. Seemingly customers in the Netherlands have received theirs already. .... I'd love to see a review of the car but can't find one anywhere??
KapA
26 Dec 15 #182
Anyone know the difference between the lux/msport/standard e? Performance looks identicle, hopefully M sport has the nice M badge throughout as its lovely on the M5
Happy_Harris to KapA
26 Dec 15 #186
Hi, you can use the BMW website configuration tool and it lets you build one in the spec you want, tells you all the differences between M Sport, Lux etc
KapA
26 Dec 15 1 #184
Emailed them stating what I required, they replied with the personal qoute
GAVINLEWISHUKD
26 Dec 15 1 #185
Yes that annoys me when I'm looking at Auto trader and I think 'That looks a good price' only to open the advert to see it has cream seats. :disappointed: Yuck.

You are paying the extra as it devalues the car. :smiley:
Happy_Harris
26 Dec 15 #187
M Sport is lovely but was just a little too sporty for me as I'm getting in a bit now!
qwerta369
27 Dec 15 #188
http://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/181628037196
£1.62 for 10 m badges. Problem solved.
abaxas
27 Dec 15 #189
Just a quick note.

This car does 0mpg in the icy or snowy conditions with it's built in autostranded device.
jacksonliam to abaxas
27 Dec 15 #190
I've had a beemer for two years and have been waiting for a decent bit of snow to try it out!
It was good fun in the ice last year. Wonder if this has the DTC button, pressing that seems to help as it tells the traction control to allow a bit of slip from the rear wheels.
jaydeeuk1
28 Dec 15 #191
Excellent price! This pure rwd still?
Ill wait till its released before deciding, need another car to replace the family unfriendly mr2 in summer. Was hoping for a golf r deal again but this'll do.
roadie
29 Dec 15 #192
WHY?
plewis00
29 Dec 15 #193
Why what?!
roadie
29 Dec 15 #194
WHY are drivers of Mercedes sad?
dean10
29 Dec 15 #195
Whats the best M-Sport deal on the 330e people have found. I have Maintained , Solid colour, £256 thats 9 x 23
heymickey
29 Dec 15 #196
@dean10

Seen the M-Sport unmaintained, solid colour @ £239.63/mth VAT inc. (6 + 23) for 8,000mpa = £6949.27 total, no fees!
KapA to heymickey
30 Dec 15 #199
That's decent
stents01
30 Dec 15 #197
Requested a quote from the company as I would have got one for the prices stated here but they quoted 2362 down and 262 a month bang goes the late xmas pressie to myself :-(
KapA
30 Dec 15 #198
£294 / 23 + 6. M sport 12k with grey paint. The sales guy pushed me away from maintained he explained everything will be covered. I've read that I should opt for it. Anybody got any thoughts?
dean10
30 Dec 15 #200
Any options massively change the monthly cost.I will stick with the solid white, m-sport, 9+23 and 10k miles, the only consideration I now have is maintenance.. it work out at £8 a month.. I know it doesn't sound much but I'm right at my limit. Not sure if its worth it
jayjayuk1234
30 Dec 15 #201
lol, BMW will spend more time in the garage than on the road, unreliable
freebiehunter to jayjayuk1234
31 Dec 15 #202
Unreliable? I'm on my 5th BMW and have been the most reliable cars I've owned
jayjayuk1234
31 Dec 15 #203
German cars are top of the unreliable cars list, i've had Audi and BMW both have given me nothing but grief, never again
freebiehunter
31 Dec 15 #204
That's just bad luck though. I'd say personally build quality and reliability of BMW is way above a lot of competitors.
jayjayuk1234
31 Dec 15 #205
jacksonliam
31 Dec 15 #206
Those reliability charts often use data from aftermarket warranty providers so only for cars 3+ years old where the owner had a third party warranty and claimed on it.
This is a new car. Its also a new model with a new drivetrain. It might be the most reliable car BMW ever built or it might be constantly on the back of a transporter. No one knows.
If its any concern I've found BMW/Audi dealers seem to be pretty good at looking after you if there are any problems and usually spec up the courtesy cars.
taker
31 Dec 15 #207
I'm curious about leasing and it is looking to be cost effective for my needs.

I wanted to know how does insurance work out with leasing vechicles?
freebiehunter to taker
31 Dec 15 #208
Insurance works out just the same as if you'd purchased the vehicle - it's still your car to drive and the insurance will be in your name and makes no difference
freebiehunter
31 Dec 15 #209
Your link states that "The reliability index is calculated according to how often a car needs to be repaired, and how expensive those repairs are. Luxury cars may therefore fare worse in the table, as spare parts can be more expensive." - pretty obvious then that they will fair towards the bottom of that report isn't it!
dean10
4 Jan 16 1 #210
OK, I've just ordered my 330e! M-Sport

Initially went with a lease from Select Vehicle Contracts who quoted £256 for 9+23, 10k miles, solid paint and non-maintenance 2.3k down (and a £350 admin fee)... Then my local BMW garage called and I got exactly the same for £244 2.2k down and no amin fee..

This is inc VAT on a personal contract
aaronp91 to dean10
12 Jan 16 #214
Hi, I've sent you a private message. Would you be able to advise of the contact details for the leasing company you asked to quote then your local dealer matched? I can't find them in Google to contact and get a quote myself.

Many thanks in advance. Aaron
Refresher0
6 Jan 16 2 #211
You sat in the middle-lane for 85-90% of the journey? Why did you do this? You basically just admitted you are a idiot middle-lane hogger!
immy2244
10 Jan 16 1 #212
Similar deal but with 10k miles with company based in Altrincham
http://www.contractcars.com/car-leasing/bmw/330e-lease/
aaronp91 to immy2244
12 Jan 16 #215
have you seen any good private leasing deals on this?
aaronp91
12 Jan 16 #213
Anyone seen any good deals on personal leasing?

I've sent Dean10 a private message and awaiting a reply to understand a bit more about he secured his deal in a personal name. I also can't find Select Vehicle Contracts he mentions online otherwise I'd try and get a quote myself for my local dealer to match.

Many thanks in advance
dean10
12 Jan 16 #216
Hi aaronp91 and all.... Try http://www.selectcarleasing.co.uk/ this is the company I initially went to, A chap called Jack O'sullivan. I never tried to price match with the BMW garage just asked them for a quote and it was substantially cheaper. Jack at select was really nice.. felt guilty letting him down but the price difference was too big not to.
Stmacphe
13 Jan 16 #217
Try GB vehicle leasing 8000mls, 6 + 23 paytments @ £239 per month. I also got metallic paint and 19" alloys for that price!
aaronp91 to Stmacphe
13 Jan 16 #218
Hi, thanks for that. Was that on a personal lease and inclusive of VAT or business?
aaronp91
13 Jan 16 #219
Cheers Dean. What BMW garage was , as in location? Also, to confirm - you got the BMW 330e M Sport Saloon for those prices and inclusive of VAT? I'm nearly there on prices with the garage but they're saying 244 + VAT at the moment but gone away to rework the figures again
dean10
13 Jan 16 #220
I spoke to Dick Lovett in Bristol and they sorted the lease with a company called Fulton vehicle Leasing.. Yes M Sport 330e Ended up at £248.29 INC VAT but with Metallic paint included. Non maintenance.

D
cigbunt
18 Jan 16 #221
Any test driven this? What mpg should you get on motorway run? I'm I right in thinking you get the led halo lights standard.. Must have for all bmw
mdearlove
18 Jan 16 1 #222
Nobody in the UK has test driven as it isn't coming until March. There is a guy in the Netherlands who has put some videos up on Youtube and is answering peoples questions too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w1ro8Shzy0

Mine is on order - ordered before Christmas.
jeeves
18 Jan 16 #223
Ordered mine from the same place. Contact was Daniel, top bloke who replies almost immediately to all the emails. Will be paying £268.47 for the m sport but with heated front seats. Also wanted folding side mirrors but was told they now come as standard on the m sport.
aaronp91
18 Jan 16 #224
Did you go on 10k miles too? I'm being quoted £265 for just the standard m sport on 10k or £249 on 8k but no metallic paint, heated seats etc. What delivery date are you looking at?
jeeves
18 Jan 16 #225
yup 10k with metallic paint and heated seats . Delivery is either end of may or beginning of june, perfect timing as that's when my Golf R goes back
cigbunt
18 Jan 16 #226
So you just jump lease to lease how many have you got what's your experience of it all? Have you ever got charged
jeeves
18 Jan 16 #227
only on my 2nd leased car and had no charges on my first, but did have a few dints and scratches which were sorted out by a local firm just before the end of the lease term.
first 2 cars came from gateway2lease as they were the most competitive and now the bmw will be coming from the dealers. I think all the leasing companies are equally reputable and I tend to go with the most competitive.
ned12
27 Jan 16 #228
Ordered my 330E M sport Estoril Blue in December. 20,000 miles, fully maintained £0 deposit and 24 months @ £422
Delivery end of March and cant wait!!! savings in BIK are huge compared to the c220D merc i currently have.
mdearlove
29 Jan 16 #230
Finally!
webrits
29 Jan 16 #231
​F(uckwit)
dean10
29 Jan 16 #232
unfortunately they are all just BMW press release reviews.. no ones actually posted a proper review yet. Apparently there was a press embargo on any reviews until today so fingers crossed we get some nice video's and reviews soon.
dean10
29 Jan 16 #234
What are you on about?
Dale1611
30 Jan 16 #235
Hi, do you have the contact details for Daniel as I would like to order one as well. Is he at the BMW dealership or the lease company?
jeeves to Dale1611
30 Jan 16 #236
All the allocations have now been taken up and apparently the prices have shot up to near £500!
BMW750IL
30 Jan 16 #237
Just found on GB vehicle contracts for 9 plus 23 at £239.63 so will call them Monday and see if still available
thomasparish
4 Feb 16 #239
I've just had a phone call from Select Contract saying that BMW are unable to honour the allocation of these vechiles and that I would be receiving a letter directly from BMW to that effect. I placed my order on 28th December, so I'm obvious angry to only be hearing this now. Has anyone else heard anything similar?
karlie88 to thomasparish
4 Feb 16 #240
Yes, you're not the first. Disappointing but it is what it is.
jeeves
4 Feb 16 #241
I've not heard anything from who I placed an order with. Bmw dealers and Fulton leasing
karlie88 to jeeves
4 Feb 16 #242
I think it's people who ordered from Select Contract that are getting cancellations.
dean10 to jeeves
4 Feb 16 1 #245
Like Jeeves I ordered my 330e via my Local BMW garage and Fulton leasing. I have emailed my man at BMW and waiting for a reply.

I will let you all know what response I get.
jeeves
4 Feb 16 #243
Surprising if you all ordered in December
ned12
4 Feb 16 #244
I ordered mine in December for delivery end of March. Still not got the contract through and dealership has gone quiet!!!

Bit of a worry really
Topcorna
4 Feb 16 #246
Ordered 330e m sport before Christmas and just been notified by select contracts that order has been cancelled by BMW as they can't fulfill orders, ordered through Berry Heathrow, disappointed.
thomasparish to Topcorna
4 Feb 16 #248
The information I got from Select Contract was that the letter will come directly from BMW stating that they cannot fulfill orders. Which doesn't seem logical as they are still advertising the car for lease through a number of leasing brokers. Surely the approach should be to fulfil orders for customers who have already formed contracts first. I am waiting to receive the letter but will contact them directly - stating that I am happy to wait until they are in a position to fulfil my order.
It would perhaps be acceptable if they were inundated with orders in a very short time period - but the fact is they were allowing this to be advertised through many brokers over the course of at least a month. They could have stopped taking new contracts at any point during that period.
Billythebubble to Topcorna
5 Feb 16 #258
Took 9 months to get my mercedes Benz C350e, now available in weeks rather months. That proves demand is dropping for plug in hybrids
Topcorna
4 Feb 16 #249
Yes, I spoke to BMW directly to say I could wait until July when present lease expires but was told they cannot take any further orders, something not quite right if they are taking orders from other brokers but at a much higher rate, which seems to be the case
ned12
4 Feb 16 #250
I've spoken to my dealership today who says they have had no cancellations and not aware of any within the group (Williams). As far as they are aware, everything's on track. Fingers crossed!!!!!
Svennyhill
4 Feb 16 #251
I'm in the same boat - Richard from Select called me to say he's had to make about 67 similar calls... Not sure if it's a Lex allocation, Select, or just a BMW issue - but it is disappointing as the car had everything going for it!
jeeves
4 Feb 16 #252
finance company fulton used were Alphabet
JustinJ
5 Feb 16 #253
Also had mine cancelled through silverstone
digink
5 Feb 16 #254
Mine cancelled by Select Car Leasing, supplied by Berry Heathrow. Not accepting the cancellation until I see all reasoning explained on paper, and figure out what my statutory rights in this case.
qwerta369 to digink
5 Feb 16 #256
As the merchant has cancelled the order you have the right to a full refund of any money paid.
dean10
5 Feb 16 #255
My BMW chap has heard nothing of whats happening and is speaking to colleagues to see if they know anything. According to BMW my order is still showing at 1100 - Scheduled.
dean10
5 Feb 16 #257
Did any of you who have had your order cancelled get an IVS number from BMW and confirmation of order?
jacksonliam
5 Feb 16 #259
No it doesn't.
Billythebubble
5 Feb 16 #260
So let's look at the tax saving.....up to 31st March 5% tax then from 1st April changes to 7%. Next year 9%, 11% etc
mdearlove
6 Feb 16 #261
My order from before Christmas also cancelled - also Berry Bmw :-(
forzaf1
8 Feb 16 #262
no call from Select, a surprise letter through the post from BMW instead. I am surprised they cancelled rather than push back the orders. I'm now having to find another decent deal.
dean10
13 Feb 16 #263
Looks like this is a Select / Berry BMW issue. My man at BMW said that the dealer had overused campaign pricing and could no longer honour the figures so cancelled the orders.

My order from beginning of Jan is still scheduled.

I am lucky as I nearly went with Select but my local BMW dealer was slightly cheaper and I figured it was better to go more direct. I was right..

Sorry for all those who have had orders cancelled.

D
thomasparish to dean10
16 Feb 16 #264
Select have offered me a 330d M-Sport on the same pricing as the 330e M-Sport. Whilst the list price is slightly higher for the diesel... the electric is advantageous for me as in London it exempts me from Congestion Charge and Parking Permit fees. Before I get back to Select on their offer I was hoping you might be able to PM me details of the dealer you used to see if they still have any allocations left? Thank you. Tom
Topcorna
16 Feb 16 #265
Had order from before Christmas cancelled by select and Berry BMW .has been bugging me so went to see local dealer at weekend, said they could get me a 330e as soon as that are available!!, trouble is they wanted 3.2k up front and £355 a month, thanks but no thanks, something stinks here, ordered another A6 S line but with the s tronic this time.
Matt-C
16 Feb 16 #266
i got a terrible quote from my local dealer too, still trying to find a decent deal on one
newb to Matt-C
17 Feb 16 #267
​i doubt you will get one now... I'm guessing BMW had a certain quota to 'sell' and that was it.
The 5k government grant runs out at the end of this month and goes down to 2.5k. Any leases booked after then will need to allow for that extra 2.5k to be covered in the lease payments?
Matt-C
18 Feb 16 #268
It certainly looks that way. My cars in for a service tomorrow at bmw so I'll ask when I'm there if they still have any, which I doubt they do. I was a bit late to this deal anyway, I'll just have to wait for the next one to come round..
loofer
8 Mar 16 #269
Anybody had theirs delivered yet and provide feedback on usage?
Particularly interested in how it performs on long distance motorway journeys.

Obviously this deal is no longer available but I can get (via employer benefit scheme - not company car) the following
24 months @ £407/pm
Nil deposit.
10k mile/pa
Includes insurance and all maintenance.
Total £9,768

Not as good deal as OP as I would be paying an extra £3k just for 4k extra miles, insurance and all maintenance.
Given I only have 1 year NCb I would expect my insurance to be nearer £800- 1k per year
Svennyhill
8 Mar 16 #270
After searching about I was lucky enough to get a great deal on a 330e through GB Vehicle Contracts (it was actually cheaper than I'd ordered through Select - and there was no Admin fee in this case). I think that particular deal has expired now - but I've been dealing with Claire Oliver there who has been great. Worth a look and a call for other good deals you may be looking into - and I'm not just saying that to get a referral fee... (but that would be nice!)

https://www.facebook.com/GBVehicle/?pnref=about.overview
http://www.gbvehiclecontracts.co.uk/
jeeves
19 Mar 16 #272
looks like the first ones have started arriving...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmJy9jo0kE0
aaronp91 to jeeves
19 Mar 16 #273
That petrol cap process is going to be a real pain! Also, the brown looks horrendous but each to their own
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