Update time, and it's all gone a bit Pete Tong. Home keys are failing, it sometimes won't charge, sometimes when charged the battery won't shift of 100%. Oh dear I had such high hopes for it really. So it's back in the box and of to Amazon on Monday

which 1 is better, apples or oranges?

which 1 is better, wileyfox storm or iPhone 5s?

Oh dear. Sorry to hear that. There will always be teething problems, especially with a new manufacturer. Hope they get it sorted soon.
I went for the LG G3 in the end, mainly because it's smaller but actually it's a really impressive phone, especially the camera.

I was looking forward to this phone (particularly the camera and o/s) but the battery capacity isn't enough for a 5.5 inch screen and having to choose between using a second sim or an sd card means it's not for me. I think dual sim popularity will increase as more networks offer big data deals, I currently have a basic PAYG sim for calls and texts (small data allowance) and sim 2 is the EE 100 gb a month sim.

Thanks. Do you find it a bit big? I was looking at the similarly sized Samsung Note 4 yesterday and it felt enourmous. The main problem was that it was very difficult to reach down to the bottom navigations buttons while holding one handed and felt like I'd end up dropping it. The LG G3 is that bit smaller and might be better for me but doesn't quite have the specs of this.

Thanks, sounds good. No negatives?
Shame they didn't allow 2 sims and an sd card like the moto g as that would suit folks better.
Let's hope customer service turns out to be ok as seems folks have found them to be hopeless at the moment, I've emailed them myself and got no reply. Early days so hope that improves. I like the 3 year warranty, that attracts me and being British company it would be nice if they could make phones with chinese specs with UK customer service.
Glad you are happy with it :-)

​battery life is the same as my old Moto G gen 1. So where to start? In the box you get a sim tool, yes the Storm has a stupid sim tray!!! These silly, fiddly, fragile things should be a thing of the past. You can have 2 SIMs or a sim and sd card. The phone comes with a screen protector pre installed. But mine looks like a monkey put it on all full of bubbles and looked naff, so I took it of right away. Nice USB cable. No charger, just the cable. It's short but looks and works great. Now the handset. It's well made. It's plastic, but not cheap feeling. Nice finish on the back. Over all I think it's a pretty looking handset. It's fast and smooth, no lag and all apps open fast. GPS is good, I use it with Nokia Here as my main nav unit in my car. Had it side by side with my work mates Moto X play. The Moto x play looks a more premium handset, but is that worth a extra £70. No, not in my view or work colleagues. He wishes he had took the plunge and got the Storm. The Cyanogen OS is great. Feels like lollipop, but soo much better. Privacy guard and ture caller Id are super. It also comes with a 2 years warranty too. 3 if you pay £9.99, and a years screen insurance for 9.99 too.

My Fox is here....... Love it :sunglasses:

Can anyone tell me if the camera has an auto HDR mode please?

Deliver on Tuesday for me according to Amazon. Will post back soon

- What phone you using?
- Wileyfox
- :smile:

Same price at Amazon, but without the £10 Argos Voucher:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B014UUQM52?ref_=cm_sw_r_awd_jPodwb8T6ED82

Both Argos and Amazon have 4% cashback on Quidco, but the £10 Voucher offer ends on the 3rd of November so unless the phone is in stock by then the voucher offer is nullified. If you have a NUS card then you get a discount with Amazon

​oh dear really. please shhh

out of stock already?

​Agreed. Rooting and unlocking the bootloader for other improvements will always improve the phone.

I should order mine on Monday, so hopping the end of next week I'll have it. So I will report back

It said that yesterday. Are they going to announce it every single day?

Really want to get this for the Mrs, but she would want to hold it first and try it out. Any one know if we are allowed to open up and still return if she doesn't like it?

Yes, it takes a bit of research first but can be beneficial if stock rom is laggy/full of bloat. Nexi don't really need rooting and modding really but saying that will be doing it to get marshmallow on my n4

Not everyone has the time and the know-how to, but it is certainly an option. Just thought I'd put it out there as I used to love the whole rooting and custom ROM thing but now I can't even bother rooting stock ROM on my Nexus devices.

​just root it and throw a cleaner rom on it

good phone battery let's it down

Review on Android Central:

http://www.androidcentral.com/hands-wileyfoxs-cyanogen-powered-storm-and-swift

Almost bought a G3 instead of the Moto X Play that I've placed an order for. It's these small things that differentiate between a good phone and a stellar phone. Thank goodness, now that I know niggles like this exist.

Assuming they are still around when you need to claim!

I wouldn't assume that....

At this price wouldn't a new LG G3 from Amazon be a better deal (throwing a curve ball)

The OnePlus X has just been announced at £199 with similar specs (better CPU, less storage) but with their silly invite system. And still a 2500mAh battery. Very disappointed with most phones released this year, especially when it comes to battery!

If it is a Chinese rebrand, at least it supports all the UK 4G/LTE bands which is a major plus. Doesn't appear to have NFC though ...

Oh and the owners were behind the phone company Kazam. Not sure if they are still going though.

It's a re-branded General Mobile 4G handset. Big in Turkey, Philippines, Indonesia. It's a well made phone with a good performance track history. Google used it in there Android One initiative. So it's been unofficially approved by them. It has solid specs, cheap, 2 year warranty as standard, 3 year warranty for extra 9.99. You try getting a Apple phone with a 3 warranty! Also you can get screen insurance for 9.99 per year too. It's a British firm so warranty claims should be easy( early swift handsets had a few small problem's and we're swapped easily enough). It has a UK call centre, although I suspect it's a 3rd party service. It's a good deal cheaper than a Moto X play, and a good bit better than a Moto G. I think is a good punt at £200. Ordering one myself on Monday.

if you are thinking of getting this then you might also think of getting the Moto X Play (3600mah battery) for about £270.

​Not that I know but nothing would surprisevme :wink:

Wikipedia said so :smiley:

Cold, no review from Markus Brownee of this.

​but part of another company and Chinese owned?

Also not sure they are so British OP. What makes you say they are?

Similar to Swift "deal" posted the other day, this is not a deal - this is regular price for this phone.

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Paranoid is unlikely these days bud... the developers have been poached and work elsewhere... as a result dev is nigh on non existant

Am hoping it will get enough dev support for a release of Carbon or Paranoid rather than just straight CM, also root and bootloader unlock are high on my list of wants before I consider pulling the trigger as CWM and Xposed are necessities to me :sunglasses:

How different is Cyanogen to stock android? Do I still get apps from the play store? (got a nexus 4)

unique selling point dude.

Quite true, I certainly agree - if it was an original design it would've been paraded around. I'm assuming USP = ultimate selling point? Have never come across that term before.

From Amazon. Getting about a day. (Use all day, it is lasting, put on charge at night - sorted)

yeah appreciate your first comment but an exclusive british design would surely be a usp worth shouting about. good marketing tool. as they dont, i assume theyre both rebrands. cheaper than clean sheet design for a startup.

your second point, thanks.

why if you go through to the basket does it state out of stock?

But the commenter was referring to the Storm and wondering if it is an original design.

Cyanogen might increase the efficiency ever so slightly, but don't expect large numbers.

Is this just a rebrand of a Chinese handset, or a genuine 'Wileyfox' design?

Dual SIM support removing microSD support isn't great, at least it has 32GB storage though.

Ability to root also essential for my needs!

Bought the Swift the other day (it's smaller brother) and well impressed for less than £130 delivered from Amazon.

I'm getting out of stock for home delivery and delivery to store.

I've definitely been considering this - well priced considering the spec...not sure whether to pay 3 times as much for an LG V10?

Short review here. Camera looks awful https://youtu.be/fY0KYdSBRG0

It's 95% pure Android. You have a few extra options to customise your phone. You get weekly updates. I personally prefer CM

Flubit offered me 185GBP including delivery. Worth a punt if you're really interested in buying the phone. Warranty comes from Wileyfox themselves and since it's based in the UK there should be no problem.

Specs looked good until I saw Snapdragon 615 and 2500mah. Kind of pointless putting 3gb ram if the processor is not up to scratch!

I'd preordered this from Amazon, but cancelled last week. No reviews, no hands on from the usual tech sites, no real response to customer queries all had me a bit worried. Appreciate they're probably very busy with the launch, and are only a small company, but like others I'm sitting back and seeing what happens first.

Edit: Oh, and unless I'm mistaken, dual SIM support removes micro SD expansion support. Just a heads up.

Agree that the battery capacity is disappointing, my P7000 is 3450mah, I really don't want to go back to a phone where you can't guarantee a full day from early morning till late night. I was tempted because of the possible camera upgrade from the P7000, but it seems the recent batch of new phones aren't ticking all my boxes yet. Still drawn towards the elephone vowney, but the pre sale discount isn't quite what it needs to be.

I like it. Dual sim and good specs. But no cases out there for it. I'll wait a bit as I've slippery fingers...

This looks just like my one plus one, however cheaper in price. the Cyanogen os means it should not need rooting as it has the tweaks that stock does not, however rooting will allow you more customisation. Can use it with google play apps with no problem. good price and specs, heat from me and would be my choice of not already got one plus one.

Anyone seen a review for the storm. Only seen reviews for the swift.

If they let us root, I'd consider it.

it says battery is non removable :-( overwise good specs

Pretty nice spec for the money and Cyanogenmod support is also a plus. Can't help feeling they missed a trick with the battery though, if the Vodafone Smart Ultra 6 can fit in 3000mAh surely Wileyfox could too? Although SU6 will likely not see an update past 5.1.1. Anyone seen any reviews, especially where battery life is concerned?