So, John lewis seem to be price matching more and more at the moment including promotions. This could mean the Black Friday might get a bit tasty, especially on TVs and such... JLs 5 year guarantee is awesome on top of price matching, so you can't go wrong really.
Really decent price for this set, awesome reviews and imho Sony have really good built in speakers on loads of their TVs in comparison to others, right out of the box. That said, i am sure a lot of you would add your own amplifiers and sound systems anyway. But still £279 is a belter of a price :)
HDMI x 2
USB 2.0 x 1
Scart Socket x 1
The Sony R4 is quite simply, a great 40-inch Full HD TV. With HDD recording and a USB media player, you’ll be able to watch what you want at a time which suits. And thanks to a clear resolution enhancer, the picture quality boasts refined details for an even more immersive viewing experience.
Clear resolution enhancer -
Reducing noise and imperfections is Sony’s clear resolution enhancer. This great feature makes images sharper and more natural, delivering a clear difference compared to standard LED TVs. Contrast has also been improved which adds more depth and realism to what you see on the screen.
Slim design -
The elegant and slim design of the 40” screen joins form and function beautifully to blend seamlessly into its surroundings, even when mounted on the wall.
USB HDD recording -
With the Sony R4 you’ll never miss your favourite TV programmes again because you can record them, and watch at a more convenient time for you and your family. Simply programme your TV to record your preferred show with an easy connection of a USB hard drive.
USB media player
With the USB media player, you’ll be able to enjoy all your favourite music, videos and photographs with easy playback. And thanks to Digital Noise Reduction, your media sources, including the PC input, can benefit from the same advanced image processing techniques that are given to cable, satellite and broadcast signals.
Smooth motion -
With Motionflow XR 100Hz, every image on the screen refreshes at a higher rate than normal. Sports and fast-moving action look noticeably smoother, sharper and more natural, with reduced blur and judder.
Top comments
pepperlic to spork2009
24 Nov 1519#5
Black friday TVs usually suck. They are not real deals but TVs made specifically for black friday. Get a TV that has good reviews.
Gollywood
24 Nov 154#11
Black Friday should be called Blaupunkt Friday.
That's what will be flogged off to the underclasses.
Gollywood to maggie625
25 Nov 153#57
New boy? :confused:
:smile:
Kais
24 Nov 153#7
I contacted JL at the weekend about buying a TV now and whether they'll honour any deal on Black Friday. They said that the normal price match will apply.
So I ordered myself this for £279: Samsung UE40J5100. In my opinion it looked better than the Sony side-by-side. Just my 2p's.
Latest comments (106)
audin
23 Dec 15#106
Got this TV now and it's brilliant, but having some trouble with it.
Firstly, when on HDMI 2 (Fire TV) i'm unable to get the sound menu up using the TV remote so I can't change the sound settings. When watching anything voices are really quiet where as action is very loud but I can't get to the sound settings to do anything about it...
Secondly, I have the TV connected via ethernet cable to my router but I'm getting 'Internet Connection: Failed' showing under network settings. It's getting an IP via DHCP and i've tried putting it on a static with DNS 2 set as 8.8.8.8 but still no internet connection.
Got an email back from JL and there is more stock coming within next 2 weeks.
88HP
28 Nov 15#103
This is not a smart TV but it has a LAN port on the back, does anyone know what function that can serve?
thesonandheir
27 Nov 15#102
Out of stock so expired it.
lugsy3
27 Nov 15#101
Fingers crossed it will come back in stock. I posted it before @ £289 and couldn't afford it , now I can its a tenner cheaper and OOS grrrrr.
88HP
27 Nov 15#100
Is this (http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lg-49-inch-49lf510v-fhd-led-tv-329-instead-549-argos-black-friday-2334184) a better deal for an extra £50? I'm not too bothered about it having only one HDMI
basicly
26 Nov 15#94
ITs oos but i sure wish it would come back into stock. been wanting this tv since it was 350 and was waiting for sub 300 :disappointed:
benjyyy to basicly
26 Nov 15#95
It was £269 for ages a couple of months ago
stu888 to basicly
26 Nov 15#99
It's same price in currys
itzkodez
26 Nov 15#98
DAMN...Missed it.
JimmyLevvy2
26 Nov 15#97
Really, really tempted but looking for a cheap 55" deal. Hoping something tomorrow for Black Friday.
I think you are alright warranty wise from Amazon. I am sure there is a thread on here saying they were doing a free 5 yr warranty through square trade with any tv purchase direct from Amazon...
ehsan111
25 Nov 15#89
I can only assume it was something to do with Paypal, I contact Richersounds but they wont have these tv's in stock until Tuesday so opted for Amazon instead. Can't go wrong with Amazon even if the warranty is less or I coud buy the 49 inch digihome from Tesco, which is also a good deal for black friday
ehsan111
25 Nov 15#87
amazon has these minus the warranty but purchased from amazon. John lewis cancelled my order this morning, not happy with them
nicblaney to ehsan111
25 Nov 15#88
Sorry to hear that. What reason did they give you for the cancellation?
adamreilly
25 Nov 15#86
Balls!! Waited to get home, sold out.
zan87
25 Nov 151#85
Grabbed this earlier when it was in stock. Thank you very much. Glad I purchased it on my phone earlier rather than waiting to get home!
Happysteveo
25 Nov 15#84
Now out of stock.
HARIBABU
25 Nov 15#83
I have this model , very nice. Don't wait to save few bucks , cos you might not get one !
oowl
25 Nov 151#82
I guess so! My model number is KDL40R473A, Manufacture date 04/13. Comparing the tech specs, they are essentially the same unit. Weight is down a couple of hundred grams, power consumption is improved by 5%~, but the inputs/outputs/sound etc are the same. Angles may be a little better, but mine are fine.
Shantigadhvi
25 Nov 15#79
Is this a smart tv
nicblaney to Shantigadhvi
25 Nov 15#81
No. You can always add a chromecast/fire stick though.
GAVINLEWISHUKD
25 Nov 151#80
Not off hand the R453(2015) is a replacement for the R450(2013). I'm guessing the main thing is that they have improved the viewing angles. Then just the normal things you would expect. It will use less power, the contrast will be better and the picture processing will be a bit better. The main gripe with the R450 was poor viewing angles but it doesn't look to be an issue this time round.
jayeyedee
25 Nov 15#78
When I bought a Samsung TV from JL the first years guarantee was with Samsung the remaining four years is with JL.
neilydee
25 Nov 15#77
You don't happen to know what the difference is between the 2 different models? 2013 vs 2015.
GAVINLEWISHUKD
25 Nov 151#76
Can I borrow your delorean. It was only released in Feb 2015!
I'm guess your saying you have the 2013 version of this?
whatyadoinsucka
25 Nov 15#75
how cheap are telly's lol, paid more for a 14" back in the day
Toretto90
25 Nov 15#72
Was looking at this or the Samsung UE40J5100 which is the same price at JL and RS but the Samsung seems to have slightly better reviews overall.
Any suggestions on which to go for?
Kais to Toretto90
25 Nov 15#74
This won't be helpful but they are both a good a buy as each other. The Sony has USB record and is slightly thinner but unless you highly value those things these two are the same specs wise. It's the look of the displayed image that comes down to personal preference. For me the Samsung screen displays a nicer image than the Sony.
retrobootdisc
25 Nov 15#73
cant see it getting much better than £279 that's a great deal. but you might get a better deal queuing up at a supermarket for 3 hours, have a fight and then save another £50 :wink:
Kais
25 Nov 15#71
Not the same TV. Smaller by 8 inches, 1 less HDMI port, 720p not 1080p, 1 year warranty. Practically worse in every way. :wink:
This one is definitely worth the £60 extra.
craigdm
25 Nov 15#70
Sony?? FFS are we back in the 1980's?
ehsan111
25 Nov 15#60
Order cancelled by John Lewis! first and only order. same price at Amazon and Richersounds. Off to Richersounds
captainbeaky to ehsan111
25 Nov 15#61
I'd phone before you go. They never usually have anything in stock.
furiousjammin to ehsan111
25 Nov 15#69
Can you still register for free VIP online and get a £10 voucher? Maybe worth a try
niccit
25 Nov 15#68
Ordered last night delivery Tuesday.
nicblaney
25 Nov 15#67
Haha! Good to hear you are still happy with it though! It's getting harder and harder to get a non smart TV.
Happysteveo
25 Nov 15#66
Cheers. I have the app on my phone but would have forgotten to use it if you hadn't said.
nicblaney
25 Nov 151#65
Glad it helps you out! If it's your first order you can get a free £5 credit to your account before purchasing! Just google it and a code will pop up in results
oowl
25 Nov 15#64
Always makes me grin when I see deals for this tv! Managed to get it from JL 2.5 years ago for £238 thanks to HUKD. <3
It's a good unit. Only annoying thing is only 2 hdmi ports, but it's not a big deal. Light and good picture quality. Sound quality is fine too.
nicblaney
25 Nov 151#62
Ach, I ordered! Not looking for a smart tv anyway and managed to get a slight saving by buying JL vouchers from Zeek. Should be delivered on Tuesday.
Happysteveo to nicblaney
25 Nov 15#63
Thanks for the Zeek tip!
luke5853
25 Nov 15#59
Great deal !
nicblaney
24 Nov 151#1
I have been looking at this all morning. Tempted but worried Black Friday may throw up a better price or model. Does anyone know if I bought this now and it were to be reduced in BF - would JL refund the difference?
badger2609 to nicblaney
24 Nov 15#6
They had this TV in John Lewis in Cambridge yesterday on clearance for £239. Really wasn't sold on the picture quality. Only had 1 and it was ex display, but I've been looking at this TV for a while and it didn't look that great. May have had something to do with how they'd set it up though. Might be worth seeing one running first
blackmail2005 to nicblaney
25 Nov 15#58
Yes. They will. I have did this in the past
maggie625
25 Nov 15#56
Thanks! My tv was just damaged by my boy yesterday! We need a new one :-(
Gollywood to maggie625
25 Nov 153#57
New boy? :confused:
:smile:
the wolf
25 Nov 15#55
Does anyone know what this set is like for gaming?
Gollywood
25 Nov 15#54
Fighting over 5. hitty no name 'made for supermaket' TVs worth £10 at most.
I also laughed. And cringed. And laughed again.
austinc
25 Nov 15#53
I still laugh at those news clips of idiots fighting over Polaroid TV's in asda
ElectricalStorm
24 Nov 15#44
Bought SONY 3 years ago, never again. They didn't update youtube player app so SMART TV is no longer SMART...
hcc27 to ElectricalStorm
25 Nov 151#52
This is actually more common than you think. TV manufacturers have no incentive to keep updating their apps to be compatible with updated API's from the app owners since they advertise improved smart services on their new line of TVs as the new USP. All they want to do is to get you to buy their new TVs.
A better solution is to add smart functionality via a 3rd party dongle, e.g. Fire Stick, Chromecast etc. These will have app updates for years, and once they stop all you need to do is spend less than 30 quid on the upgraded version - far cheaper than upgrading your TV.
nicblaney
24 Nov 15#51
With JL
mivanpy
24 Nov 15#50
Nothing to technical although reading back my post seemed to suggest so . Should have said sony's poorly designed menu!
Eco settings turn off
Display where ever thats located on this particular set. Change from current to common then go scrren format full and turn that auto format off and change display area to full pixel for 1 to1 pixel mapping for sky ,blu ray ,ps4 etc
Then obviously the rest is upto you but i always find changing the sound to cinema always improves sound aswell.
Old_King_Doran
24 Nov 15#49
Yeh i dont need it for anything other than gaming so the smart tv stuff will go to waste.
seems ok so far, might up the sharpness, have it on game mode currently. Taken by a phone camera so picture isnt great quality.
Old_King_Doran
24 Nov 15#47
The deal was hot, and someone reccommended it for gaming, soooo yeah, 350 is pennys tbh
Gollywood to Old_King_Doran
24 Nov 15#48
Funnily enough I had my eyes on that one but decided that I didnt want the Smart TV - so the Sony is messing with me!!
mivanpy
24 Nov 15#40
Decent all rounder for the money . Cracking deal . Just make sure you familiar yourself with sony's hidden menus settings when setting up the picture . Cant go wrong with the 5 year warranty. Mother in law is looking for a new telly ! This would be ideal.
Gollywood to mivanpy
24 Nov 15#46
Any hints on how to do this? Thanks
Gollywood
24 Nov 15#45
I expect clueless people to buy a £180 TV off the cuff, not a nearly £400 one. You must be rich & clueless :laughing:
benjyyy
24 Nov 15#43
It was cheaper in Currys in October and I got JL to price match but never got it in the end.
"Thank you for your price match request for the Sony Bravia KDL40R453CBU LED HD 1080p TV, product code: 82430240.
I have looked into your request and will be happy to match the price of £269.00 for the Sony Bravia KDL40R453CBU LED HD 1080p TV seen online at Currys."
Heat, ordered. 100hz, 1080 but doesn't specify p or i. The only downside I can see is only 2 hdmi ports. Is there such a thing as a splitter if I have 3 hdmi devices I want to attach?
Haines to Rodgew
24 Nov 15#19
Sure is, lots about.:smiley:
kjsav123 to Rodgew
24 Nov 15#21
Yes :smiley:
ShakeyJK to Rodgew
24 Nov 151#23
It is 1080p :sunglasses:
ewanyengi to Rodgew
24 Nov 15#42
Indeed there is. U can get a decent gary glitter for about 3 quid
sbignell
24 Nov 151#39
In JL at the weekend they said if I bought a TV and they reduced the price on Black Friday then they would refund the difference.
nicblaney to sbignell
24 Nov 15#41
I sent JL an email earlier on today and they have gotten back to me and confirmed that this is indeed the case. Good to know! Will have to try and get into a store and look at it in person
steague86
24 Nov 15#38
I worked in electrical retail for a good few years and we would purposely set up the more expensive tv's with better cabling, inputs/media and settings. You can never judge the picture you see in stores. It's crap from a consumers perspective but true. When it comes to Samsung, in my time in the industry, they had a higher return rate than any other brand. I've always found their colours to be too unnatural also. However, haven't worked in the industry for 5 years now, and electronics move fast. My opinion would be to buy Sony or Panasonic for overall performance and quality.
TacticalTimbo
24 Nov 151#33
Isn't this TV always this price? It's an entry set at best, IMO £280 is merely okay!
stu888 to TacticalTimbo
24 Nov 15#37
That's what I was thinking. Been this price at currys for ages and says full rrp too
mem11
24 Nov 15#36
Yes you can but you can only record the channel your watching. kind of defeats the whole purpose of recording but not being able to watch another channel. Still the best budget tv out there. Personly i want to jump on the 4k band wagon.
hcc27
24 Nov 15#35
Richer Sounds are fantastic on their guarantees. A couple of years back I had a stereo that broke down just after the 12 month guarantee period had passed, they exchanged it for a new one no questions asked. Their 6 year guarantee for HiFi and TVs is usually a 10% add-on to the purchase price, and they actually refund this 10% during the last month of the extended warrant (though you have to make a request). I notice they're now offering the extended warranty as standard on many of their items.
I'd say their customer service is superior to that of John Lewis.
noahsdad
24 Nov 15#34
So this TV the dude just bought is better on paper. But not better on what? Should the deal not be for his TV, or should that be posted for us to hover our finger over the "buy" button? Who would have thought buying a TV could be such a minefield! The Samsung ones are good competition for Sony also. I am looking for a TV for gaming, streaming TV, watching TV and DVDs.
hcc27
24 Nov 15#32
Yup, like those amazing deals for Polaroid TV's they had last year.
Ricky
24 Nov 15#31
I'm keen on the Panasonic tx-40cs520b but struggling to find a really good deal
Ricky
24 Nov 15#30
I'm also on the hunt for a 40 inch telly on Black Friday too.
DrRollo
24 Nov 15#29
Any good for gaming? Can't find the response times etc.
monty9120
24 Nov 15#28
if its anything like my 42 inch sony there ace. speakers are good for what it is.the pictures perfect well worth the money over the cheap tvs on black friday
neilydee
24 Nov 15#27
Thanks OP. All the reviews seem good. Really good price coupled with the 5 year guarantee from JL. No need for a Smart TV, curved or 4k so just what the doctor ordered! Cheers.
robert_bear
24 Nov 151#26
not sure whether to wait for black Friday, great find opp
Old_King_Doran
24 Nov 15#25
Well thats ok then ha ha thanks, I heard mine has very low input lag and 200hz refresh rate so is good for gaming, thats all I wanted it for, don't need wifi or anything.
Pretty clueless about tv's.
anglo
24 Nov 151#24
No, your TV is higher up the specs scale, on paper at least. Just read the first paragraph; "Smart LED TV - WiFi - 4x HDMI - 2x USB Ports" Rest easy! :smile:
Found them outstanding when I had an issue with lg plasma.
soled74
24 Nov 15#17
is the 5 year waranty with sony or the retailer? tempted to get one
Kais
24 Nov 15#16
Unfortunately the Samsung does not have USB record :disappointed: I simply went with what looked the best in the shop as all I need is a dumb screen to hook up everything I already have.
noahsdad
24 Nov 15#15
I like that Samsung TV also. Downside is Samsung sound is generally not so good on TV's but sorted with a Soundbar. Sony TV also has recordable freeview built in, if I read the description correctly?
Gollywood
24 Nov 151#14
Just my personal experience. JL over RS only because I found RS staff almost a bit too protective when you have an after sales issue
thomps121
24 Nov 15#13
Looks like a good TV, but those that are style concious should opt for the Sony, as it is much thinner and will look better on a wall mount.
Extra year guarantee, not sure what Richer Sounds are like on their Guarantees, i know John Lewis are very good.
Gollywood
24 Nov 154#11
Black Friday should be called Blaupunkt Friday.
That's what will be flogged off to the underclasses.
coldo
24 Nov 15#10
looks good bud, do you know if you can record onto an external HD with this TV as I noticed the Sony one does. I have done away with my virgin tivo box as was.getting too expensive so I'm looking for something I can record programmes onto. Cheers
Neobrown
24 Nov 15#9
So many Great tv deals, but what do I do with my old ones? They're still current, Freeview, HD and plenty of HDMI sockets etc.
Think I'll wait till more channels use 4K before I invest in an upgrade
nicblaney
24 Nov 15#8
Thanks for that. I think I have been holding off as I know it's a budget model. The model up at £379 is the one I would prefer. This site makes you so aware of better prices it makes it harder to just go for it!
Kais
24 Nov 153#7
I contacted JL at the weekend about buying a TV now and whether they'll honour any deal on Black Friday. They said that the normal price match will apply.
So I ordered myself this for £279: Samsung UE40J5100. In my opinion it looked better than the Sony side-by-side. Just my 2p's.
spork2009
24 Nov 151#2
^ I'm. exactly the same.. want a new TV, but don't know wether to wait til Friday just afraid I might miss the good deal.
nicblaney to spork2009
24 Nov 152#4
I have 3 different Sony models in my basket waiting for me to make up my mind!
pepperlic to spork2009
24 Nov 1519#5
Black friday TVs usually suck. They are not real deals but TVs made specifically for black friday. Get a TV that has good reviews.
stu888
24 Nov 151#3
Same price in currys too. Without the 5 yr guarantee obviously. Think I'll wait a bit longer
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Opening post
Really decent price for this set, awesome reviews and imho Sony have really good built in speakers on loads of their TVs in comparison to others, right out of the box. That said, i am sure a lot of you would add your own amplifiers and sound systems anyway. But still £279 is a belter of a price :)
HDMI x 2
USB 2.0 x 1
Scart Socket x 1
The Sony R4 is quite simply, a great 40-inch Full HD TV. With HDD recording and a USB media player, you’ll be able to watch what you want at a time which suits. And thanks to a clear resolution enhancer, the picture quality boasts refined details for an even more immersive viewing experience.
Clear resolution enhancer -
Reducing noise and imperfections is Sony’s clear resolution enhancer. This great feature makes images sharper and more natural, delivering a clear difference compared to standard LED TVs. Contrast has also been improved which adds more depth and realism to what you see on the screen.
Slim design -
The elegant and slim design of the 40” screen joins form and function beautifully to blend seamlessly into its surroundings, even when mounted on the wall.
USB HDD recording -
With the Sony R4 you’ll never miss your favourite TV programmes again because you can record them, and watch at a more convenient time for you and your family. Simply programme your TV to record your preferred show with an easy connection of a USB hard drive.
USB media player
With the USB media player, you’ll be able to enjoy all your favourite music, videos and photographs with easy playback. And thanks to Digital Noise Reduction, your media sources, including the PC input, can benefit from the same advanced image processing techniques that are given to cable, satellite and broadcast signals.
Smooth motion -
With Motionflow XR 100Hz, every image on the screen refreshes at a higher rate than normal. Sports and fast-moving action look noticeably smoother, sharper and more natural, with reduced blur and judder.
Top comments
That's what will be flogged off to the underclasses.
:smile:
So I ordered myself this for £279: Samsung UE40J5100. In my opinion it looked better than the Sony side-by-side. Just my 2p's.
Latest comments (106)
Firstly, when on HDMI 2 (Fire TV) i'm unable to get the sound menu up using the TV remote so I can't change the sound settings. When watching anything voices are really quiet where as action is very loud but I can't get to the sound settings to do anything about it...
Secondly, I have the TV connected via ethernet cable to my router but I'm getting 'Internet Connection: Failed' showing under network settings. It's getting an IP via DHCP and i've tried putting it on a static with DNS 2 set as 8.8.8.8 but still no internet connection.
Any ideas anyone?
THIS
I'm guess your saying you have the 2013 version of this?
Any suggestions on which to go for?
This one is definitely worth the £60 extra.
It's a good unit. Only annoying thing is only 2 hdmi ports, but it's not a big deal. Light and good picture quality. Sound quality is fine too.
:smile:
I also laughed. And cringed. And laughed again.
A better solution is to add smart functionality via a 3rd party dongle, e.g. Fire Stick, Chromecast etc. These will have app updates for years, and once they stop all you need to do is spend less than 30 quid on the upgraded version - far cheaper than upgrading your TV.
Eco settings turn off
Display where ever thats located on this particular set. Change from current to common then go scrren format full and turn that auto format off and change display area to full pixel for 1 to1 pixel mapping for sky ,blu ray ,ps4 etc
Then obviously the rest is upto you but i always find changing the sound to cinema always improves sound aswell.
seems ok so far, might up the sharpness, have it on game mode currently. Taken by a phone camera so picture isnt great quality.
"Thank you for your price match request for the Sony Bravia KDL40R453CBU LED HD 1080p TV, product code: 82430240.
I have looked into your request and will be happy to match the price of £269.00 for the Sony Bravia KDL40R453CBU LED HD 1080p TV seen online at Currys."
See post #13
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/sony-bravia-kdl40r453cbu-led-hd-1080p-tv-40-with-freeview-hd-299-now-289-john-lewis-2298746
I'd say their customer service is superior to that of John Lewis.
Pretty clueless about tv's.
please don't say this one for 279 is better.
Unfortunately the Samsung does not have USB record :disappointed: I simply went with what looked the best in the shop as all I need is a dumb screen to hook up everything I already have.
Extra year guarantee, not sure what Richer Sounds are like on their Guarantees, i know John Lewis are very good.
That's what will be flogged off to the underclasses.
Think I'll wait till more channels use 4K before I invest in an upgrade
So I ordered myself this for £279: Samsung UE40J5100. In my opinion it looked better than the Sony side-by-side. Just my 2p's.