Yes you can tell which models are made by Vestel as it says 'Assembled in Turkey" on the manufacturer's label on the back of the tv and on the box. Genuine Panasonics say made in Czech Republic. I have not seen any of their models made anywhere else. The only time to worry is if Vestel build a factory in the Czech Replublic lol.

Personally I don't think companies should be allowed to market goods that are not their own. It's misleading the customer. There will still be plenty of people out there who think they are getting a bargain top brand named tv whilst completely ignoring the Bush or Polaroid tv next to it which come from the same factory. Not everyone researches on the internet and people like my dad would just go and buy one of these not realising it isn't what it is claimed to be. He would buy it because it says Panasonic on the front. It's just wrong. If Panasonic cannot compete at the budget end of the market then they shouldn't bother to compete at all and stick to what they are good and profitable at. All they are doing is disrespecting their own brand by outsourcing the whole product. Can you imagine if companies like BMW outsourced their 1 series because it wasn't profitable for them to make any more and it was made by Chugga Chugga cars in China. It's no different. There would still be people out there who think they have a top brand at a bargain price and that is wrong. Unfortunately it's not illegal but it should be.

It's when you've drunk too much beer and your missus ends up going off the idea.

It was me who said the 55" CX400B 4k tv looked pretty good. It's not cheap though at £749.00 but the picture quality really was as good as the Samsung it was next to. For me though I think I would be buying the 700B at 50" for £50.00 more with 5 year warranty. Better processing rate than the 400B and 55" may look a bit big in my room.

@SPG123. Have a look for your self in Currys. As far as I know just the 300B and 400B are made in Turkey. It tells you both on the box and on the back of the set where the tv's are made. All of the genuine Panasonics I have seen are made in the Czech Republic. The 300B is a really bad tv. The 400B in 4k looked good to me. The 700b 50" at £799.00 looks a good tv if you really want 4k but for me it wouldn't be any good. I sit too far away from my 50" tv to get any benefit out of a 4k set and a 55" will look too big in my room (maybe). Eventually all sets will be 4k by default but looking at the graph posted on another post today there would be little point for me. 4k will be great for gaming or sat close to the set or even perhaps in the bedroom but in a living room with multi seating area around the perimeter of the room you need a big tv to benefit.

Is the 50cx700b (£799 in curry sauce) a made in Turkey set ?

I've read the Sony X80 and X85 do upscale, is that right? What about Samsung?

Technically it could be illegal all that needs to happen is consumer should complain to trading standards. Under the consumer protection from misleading marketing regulations 2008 if you are misled into making a transactional decision that you otherwise would not have done based on the material facts you were given its an offence. Equally where advertising misleads consumers or injures a competitor causing an economic decision which otherwise would not have been made then this is an offence under the business protection from misleading marketing regulations 2008. Trading standards can be contacted via citizens advice on 03454 040506. If people complain its likely product made under licence will be forced to make it clear to consumers what they are buying. Hope this helps.

@smartguy1. BMW did make a vehicle that was largely built by another firm. I recall seeing an article on top gear. It was the first version of the X3. It was utter pants. Built by a whole host of budget manufacturers.

I see, use it as double negative then, it does not at all

Only £979 at Very so cold from me!
http://www.very.co.uk/panasonic-tx-55cr730b-55-inch-curved-smart-4k-ultra-hd-with-freeview-hd-and-freeview-play-led-tv/1461320416.prd?sku=sku17460361&aff=google&affsrc=acquisition&cm_mmc=google-_-PLA+-+Electricals-_-Electricals+-+Televisions+-+Generic-_-_85148956498&k_clickid=eb53828a-2a0c-4f34-9f51-a5d2ceb56bfe&gclid=COOf_I_7j8kCFQmNGwod0x0KhA

You are correct but this is called upconversion, it means that the small box in the centre you talking about is then automatically zoomed to fill the screen. So, you get a picture in a non native resolution making it worse and when you press info on the TV it will tell you 1080p or whatever is the native resolution of the material.
Upscaling does use the same principle but would properly use the screen to replicate the pixel 4times and use all the software power to give you a better picture ( still not as good as a proper 1080p screen in my opinion), when you press info it will tell you 3840x2160 instead.

Anyone spending big money that is in the forces. If you can wait a week. buy a voucher card via defence discounts. It gives you 7% off including currys. that's an extra £70 on top of any deal at £1000. just a thought.

BE AWARE that none of Panasonic tv's do not upscale to 4k same as Samsung

£995 at Richer Sounds also but with a 6 year guarantee too

It's also available in one of my three stores in Hull, East Yorkshire but there isn't any other stock within a 40 mile radius.

Strange when did you hear this information as I work with Panasonic and all the 2015 range upscales content directly from the tv

Upscaling to 4k, Panasonic does not include it on any of their TV's old or newer models. Not saying that a proper upscaling makes it better, it just helps a lot. Tv's without upscaler do give a poorer picture on standard and HD contents. I had this dispute with Panasonic and they say to buy a DVD/BD player with 4k upscaler. The problem is that does not exist the same for satellite or tv broadcast, can see how poorer is the picture on my expensive Panasonic compared to the cheap 4k Samsung I had last year. Anyway, I use my Panasonic for PC use only and it does do that very well at 4k, for the rest I do not want to make too many comments.

​lucky you, but I'm gonna have to stay CD, like this bleeding weather! I see too many deals like this where things are oos or low stock, anyone can price down a couple of last items!

Not OLED or PLASMA. Avoid.

cold, it's a classic currys dead deal where only the odd few stores have stock - not in my nearest 9 stores.

20ms is good because its around 1 frame.
but even games like fifa with 40ms of input lg is terrible once u have layed with under 16ms.
it stands out a mile from my tv to projector.

this is a better tv.. smaller though.. 10% off marked price

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertainment/televisions/televisions/panasonic-viera-tx-50cx802b-smart-3d-ultra-hd-4k-50-led-tv-10133313-pdt.html

Then again these Tv's aren't made for Serious Gaming, They're perfectly adequate for something like Fifa or an RPG. Even the Samsung SUHD serious which are known for having one of the best Input Lag times are still 20ms

Guys can we stop with the Vestel derailment, If this was one of those TV's then feel free but this Is a through and through Panasonic Manufactured in the Czech republic[/quote]

Sorry mate. Yours is a good post and no doubt for a remarkable television. It's just that we are all quite passionate about our televisions and how they are marketed, perform etc and it appears all of the top manufacturers have some skeletons in their cupboard. Unfortunately the association of said company (not wanting to mention the name again) with Panasonic is quite damning in my opinion for Panasonic's reputation to a point where every post for a Panny brings up the V word. You even mention it yourself. People need to know which models are a genuine Panasonic who are known for making excellent products. They need to know what they are buying. They also need to know about the Samsung and LG panel lotteries and also the IPS advertised LG's which come with VA panels and not IPS. Now that's very naughty. Maybe one day the company in Turkey will be making the best tv's that have excellence performance with a decent lifespan at a reasonable cost. That may have already started with the 4k 400b. Saw it in Currys and liked what I saw.

Sorry I have gone off on a tangent again but for all of us tv fans looking for or interested in a new tv hopefully they will read the comments, do their own research and make their mind up whether your post requires heat or not. I for one have shown heat as it looks to be a decent tv for the money. Too big for me but as far as I know only three manufacturers are making curved panels so which ever panel it has, Samsung, LG or Panasonic it should be a good one.

Anyone come across any reviews for this set. Am trying to put together a wish list for my Black Friday purchase lol

​what about the BMW x3 made in India then?

Another £50 off using o2 priority! :smiley:

Yep for gaming and i won't buy anything that's near 40.

A frame is 16ms and my projector is 8 so less than a frame delay,my TV is 30-45 and it makes twitch gaming near impossible As it's 3 frames behind.

Apologies for drifting off topic

What is input lag ??

Guys can we stop with the Vestel derailment, If this was one of those TV's then feel free but this Is a through and through Panasonic Manufactured in the Czech republic

I agree, manufacturer's should not bother with the budget range if they can't make a profit and build their own...... however the Japanese have been hell bent on having their name on bargain through to high end models which they think is the right way to have a business presense.... they're stupidly thinking it's better to sell their brand than lose out to a rival, at the expense of possibly damaging their brand by using sub standard OEM's to make their TV's

I don't have a real problem with them using an OEM to build the product, after all, most laptops are built only by 4 OEM's, Apple make excellent products, or rather their OEM's do, and many other products have been badged for many many decades..... but the quality should be good and to an exacting standard. Sadly Vestel simply make a TV and Panasonic/Toshiba/Hitachi/Finlux/Bush etc name badge gets stuck onto it.

Yes you can tell which models are made by Vestel as it says 'Assembled in Turkey" on the manufacturer's label on the back of the tv and on the box. Genuine Panasonics say made in Czech Republic. I have not seen any of their models made anywhere else. The only time to worry is if Vestel build a factory in the Czech Replublic lol.

Personally I don't think companies should be allowed to market goods that are not their own. It's misleading the customer. There will still be plenty of people out there who think they are getting a bargain top brand named tv whilst completely ignoring the Bush or Polaroid tv next to it which come from the same factory. Not everyone researches on the internet and people like my dad would just go and buy one of these not realising it isn't what it is claimed to be. He would buy it because it says Panasonic on the front. It's just wrong. If Panasonic cannot compete at the budget end of the market then they shouldn't bother to compete at all and stick to what they are good and profitable at. All they are doing is disrespecting their own brand by outsourcing the whole product. Can you imagine if companies like BMW outsourced their 1 series because it wasn't profitable for them to make any more and it was made by Chugga Chugga cars in China. It's no different. There would still be people out there who think they have a top brand at a bargain price and that is wrong. Unfortunately it's not illegal but it should be.

I don't think there's anything supposedly about it, there's no doubt that those models are made by Vestel for Panasonic. Hardly a surprise when there's so little profit in the budget end of the TV market, let some other mug make it for you. Badging other manufacturers products is nothing new of course.

Instore only 10% code cant be used.

what do u mean by vestel?

There is a 10% off code online too!

Disappointed its not a Vestel. Are you really sure lol. Joking apart I was having a look at the Vestel made CX400 4k tv in 55" format in Currys on Sunday and it had a very very good picture. Maybe they got Panasonic to make that one because the A300 'Panafoney" next to it was absolutely terrible.

whats input lag on this?