Ideal for sexting then.

Not good for watching adult entertainment on.
I found the screen got too shakey.

I believe that people are now getting over a day of battery life

I'll never get over the fact this provides only a day of battery life

but has that horrid 'flat tyre' screen :disappointed:.

Great price. Hot.

Amazon.fr had a lightening deal for the black metal strap version for £110 delivered.Its now expired but if you prefer the metal strap keep an eye out as they often repeat deals.

This has to go scorching hot. The 360 is great. Classy minimalist styling, you can obviously change the face whenever you like and strap to metal/leather/rubber. Having been using one now for several months I can assure you they aren't a gimmick, and at £100 its a very nice watch by itself. Honestly would wholeheartedly recommend the Moto 360

but has that horrid 'flat tyre' screen :disappointed:.

always on screen?

Can imagine it's one of those things you get used to after time.

Does the screen come on when you bring your wrist up to view the watch?

Hot hot hot. I've had mine for 6 months or so and really like it. Yes the screen does turn on when you bring your wrist up to look at it. :smile:

Great Price, great watch. Had mine for a few months now, love the wireless charging base it comes with. Makes it into a cheeky bedside table clock.

I get 1.5 days before it needs a charge.

Edit - My only slight gripe is the strap it came with has already worn at the buckle, but the straps are replaceable I believe.

Ideal for sexting then.

Bought mine about a year a go and still wear it daily. Easily get a day's worth of battery life even now. Great price.

Had an LG Urbane for a couple of weeks but took it back. Loved the always on display but couldn't get on with the large case, small screen design. Have been tempted by the John Lewis offer of the black 360 with black metal strap.

I believe that people are now getting over a day of battery life

I'll never get over the fact this provides only a day of battery life

Which is more popular colour?

Free delivery?

Has anyone used this on iOS ?

How good are Google at honoring warranties? I'm waiting for the John Lewis one to come down in price. Electrical gadgets really do need good warranties and I'm not sure how Google would do on that department.

The Flat Tire is a NON ISSUE. After a week you simply don't notice it. You do notice that you can see the watch outside and not be blinded inside though, which is the advantage of the flat tire. Its 100% something I would want on the Moto 360 3 as well. The flat tire is a GOOD THING.

The battery however is barely passable - If you charge in the morning, then go someplace for a night and forget the charger it will die during the night.

I don't use it a lot, today I just used normal notifications and light time checking (i didn't run ANY apps today that i can remember), but I do have tilt to wake, and ambient turned on (you know.. so it acts like a watch), and here's my battery report for today:

Is that the watch with the bit of screen lopped off at the bottom?

Does this work with Map my ride? Cheers

This is a very good price. Just bought an Asus Zenwatch for £150 which I am very happy with (you get at least two days battery life with it if not 3) but this might have turned my head had the deal been about then. :smiley:

BTW ambient mode *destroys* the battery life, I would suggest turning it off; it's not like you are looking at the watch face 24 hours a day.

Thanks!
Another thing though, I can't find out on Google store the warranties period, is it only one year? It's 2 years at John Lewis.

For OP to say under £100, and the price being £99.99...smells a lot like a sales rep

Tempting me as a Xmas present.. Guessing it'll drop in price before then? What's the moto 2 do that this doesn't? I'd probably have the wireless charger on top which is another £30..

​shake your wrist in a certain way............hmmmm

Good price and nice product until you see the US market gets it at $99.99.... another classic rip off Britain moment

Charging this watch every day !!! PMSL..... Out for a night out and it's dead ! lol

Once this hits £49.99 at Xmas it might be worth a punt :wink:

maxmix

bargain. mainly use mine for the changeable faces rather than the smart functions (lg R)
so many awesome faces for free from Face Repo http://facerepo.com/app/

How LONG does it take to charge from 0 to 100%

Its a good deal if you can cope with the flat tyre - for me that IS a big issue. I'll stick with my G Watch Urbane with a full round display and 2 day battery life :smiley: it was twice the price though, so many people may be prepared to get used to the flat tyre to save £100!

Kinda amazed they didn't fix that flaw with the 2nd gen version of this - with the display off its easily the best looking Android Wear watch out there. Heat for the OP regardless as this is a great price for an Android Wear watch, regardless of whether I like the product myself.

I've had mine 2 years, and while I have banged it off things enough to have changed the glass screen protector i fitted 3 times from cracking or chipping it.. the black is still almost perfect, there is one tiny tiny scratch (i had to take it off and inspect it very close to check and see it), and it does look silver under it.. but the coating is pretty good from my experience.

John Lewis have the one with the metal strap for £30 more... http://www.johnlewis.com/motorola-moto-360-metal-smartwatch-android-wear-dark-chrome-case-and-stainless-steel-band/p1875325?

It's not a flaw for me. Its a very useful feature. I'd (as a moto 360 owner) rather have auto dimming (or brightness) as needed than the bottom couple of lines of the display which is almost pointless anyway because of the curving.. If they get rid of it in the Moto 360 3, I wouldnt buy it. (Ive already got my eyes on a moto 360 v2 when im next in the USA)

​Thanks for the info, I'll have a look at the smartwatch 3

​evenin' :wink:

Not good for watching adult entertainment on.
I found the screen got too shakey.

Guys will this work with iPhone?

any chance this will come down further on black friday?
not necessarily on google play, mind.

Wouldn't be without my Android Wear watch. (SSW3)

Good Evening to you too :wink:

maxmix

Hasn't this dropped to $99 in the US?

​Well said!

Is that including sales tax?

​I take my watch off when I go to bed. I rest it on the charging dock. No extra effort required

I have had mine for about 4 months now and I was a little worried about all the comments about the 'flat tire' and the 'battery life'. I decided to take the plunge and get one after the price dropped (although not quite as good a price as this). I can honestly say that it was well worth the investment.

After the first few days (I did spend a lot of time playing with the watch and seeing what it could do etc) I can say that I get 2 days from the battery. I do take my watch off when I go to bed (always have done) and do charge it most days anyway. I normally have about 55% left at the end of the day. It does make a nice little clock at the side of the bed.

As for the 'flat tire' I do not notice it and no one has ever commented about the very small black strip at the bottom. It is hardly noticeable.

For this price I think that it is a steal.

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Thanks this helps as I wasn't too sure

love mine. when gen 2 comes down to this price will change it

would it work with iphone?

Is that Lol, do the daft or lol I'm ignorant and will say no anyway.
PS it can work with iPhone.

OOOPSSS!

Ne warned they have issues with cracks on the rear where the strap connects, as I purchased mine is USA Moto wont repair they advise to take back to the store where I purchased it, you should be fine with a UK purchase but don't be surprised when you get cracks appear - it's a known problem and for this reason I wont buy another.

If there was a badge for the funniest comment, you sir just earnt it lol.

I hate how they make the most important thing wait till the second version. The new one has the "always on" function where the runtime is about the same as the original. That's really important and now you need to buy the new one for such an important little gimmick

At least it looks like a watch rather then the stupid rectangular hunks from others (Samsung, Apple etc.). Stick a £6 SS band on it from eBay and it looks half presentable.

Not a bad try from Motorola for first generation. In my view a smart watch should be "always on" so that you don't need to shake your wrist (sometimes this doesn't work on the 360). However there is a compromise in terms of battery life.

Voice recognition is pretty good and the WhatsApp applications works first time and very accurately (albeit without punctuation as yet). So you can send a text by talking to the watch!

Any other useful Apps that anyone else uses (Any except the stupid, "How many steps have I walked today ones")?

It doesn't let me use my Google Play store balance of £40 to buy this.

Does anyone know a way around this? (i.e. take the £40 balance and pay the rest on a credit card).

Do they have a number to call so that I can discuss it with someone at Google?

Must resist...do I need it no.... But hey ho, can't never have enough watches. :wink: Good deal heat added.

How many of these old models are still kicking around in retail channels? Seem to have been on clearance nearly as long as being on sale...

Is it easy to change watch faces if you are an iOS user?

Don't really care too much about most smart features so not overly worried about limited iOS functionality, but like the idea of being able to change the watch face a lot.

I still don't get the point in it... what do people who own a smart watch use it for?

Does this have a speaker and the ability to take calls ?

How well quickly do notifications appear on the watch from phone - I found only Samsung is instant others are delayed.

Is it possible to get this from the US for $99? This would work out at around £65.

Pretty sure vouchers don't cover hardware sales!

Will look into this. Never knew

http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-7-tablet-2012/248476-can-t-use-google-play-credit-purchase-devices.html

Items that can be purchased
Apps, Books, Movies, Music, Music subscriptions, Newsstand, Newsstand subscriptions
Google Play Gift Card Terms of Service
Google Play Promotional Balance Terms of Service
Maximum limit: £2000 (GBP)

Not hardware I'm afraid.

Damn this place. Hadn't realised iOS now had limited Android wear functionality. Didn't end up buying the Moto as just had an offer accepted an LG Urbane for £130 delivered on eBay.

I think the cut off screen would have annoyed me.

Saving up for Tag Heuer Connected smartwatch..Hope to get it by next year

Saw this described as a clunky yo-yo on a strap.

Which sounds really trivial and "first world problems" until you've actually done it and appreciated how much less hassle it is. My phone's currently on charge in the next room and I got a Facebook notification as I was typing this. I glanced at my watch to read it and carried on typing. Without the watch, I'd have to either go and grab the phone to have a look (which requires me to remember to do this after posting - my memory isn't great), or open Facebook in this browser in addition to the 30 other tabs I have open whilst looking for a new job.

Heat added... and ordered one :smiley:
I've been holding out for the Moto 360 v2 or the Huawei for a few months now but at this price it's a no brainer. I can try it and If I don't like it then I can sell it on and loose very little.They go for more than this on eBay at the moment!

Christmas present sorted for dad!!!!

great watch but I think I need to return as my battery seems bad now.

have you seen the Little Worlds app that decorates the flat tyre?

http://www.droid-life.com/2015/04/15/little-worlds-turns-the-moto-360s-flat-tire-into-something-fun/

The Stainless Steel one is now OOS in John Lewis
:disappointed:

can you part pay with Google wallet I have £25 in my account

What makes me laugh is people go on about privacy and security etc but are willing to strap a tracking monitor on their arm. Anyways it's a gimmick and has no use better than a normal watch.

Maybe not but it can record everything else the phone doesn't so either way you are still being monitored pretty heavily

What else is it recording that your phone doesn't other than footsteps and occasionally your heart rate ya buffoon?

Stick ya tin foil hat back on....

Although J Lewis deal did have 2 years warranty.

Thanks! been eyeing this up since it was revealed a year ago! about time to move from my Pebble watch!

If it knows where you went and how many steps it took to get there, it can calculate your leg size. No doubt be inundated with targetted ads for perfectly fitting trousers.

You should watch the film the Island , suddenly it doesn't seem far off from reality.

Don't bother get an LG G Watch R, 2 days battery, looks way better and premium look and feel.

In honesty it sounds funny and crazy to think that it would happen but the truth is it does , You get spammed from google everytime you search a word or leave information anywhere and combined with social media / device tracking etc you are just bait really not just to google but anybody who wants to find it and now they want to target just normal everyday things which you actually do to get away from technology , I just think jeez where do you call the line on limits, That's why a watch should just be a watch it doesn't have to be anything other than something to tell the time , Even without a watch most people can stop a few seconds to look at the phone or even god forbid ask somebody if you really don't know.

48 hours easily now, whatever they did a few software patches ago was ridiculous, I guess there was some hugely inefficient processing going on!

Can I use this with my new IPhone 6s

Smart watches still not come of age yet. Wait a while imo.

I don't suppose anyone's seen the Tomtom spark on offer yet?

Creased...

For that price so would everyone, I understand the MOTO is a good deal, but seeing its GEN1, I personally would go for the LG, as it Top of the Range. Just my opinion, read the reviews on Amazon for a community viewpoint.

Yes you can. Android Wear works with iPhone.

Oh dear oh dear.

You really do know jack about these watches...

1, The watch requires a phone host to do the work for it, other than play music that has been uploaded from a phone (via a pair of Bluetooth headphones the watch has no speaker) the watch cannot perform any other task other than very basic features if it isn't currently connected to its host phone.

2, Other than currently the Sony SW3 no Android Wear watch is capable of tracking via GPS as only the Sony possesses a GPS chip.

3, Any verbal commands or touches you give one other than manually swiping watch faces stored on the phone is all taken care of by the phone not the watch, it is no more than a fancy Bluetooth microphone for the apps running on your phone, any navigational instruction is again pushed from the phone to the watch + all the watch does is display the map you see (hopefully in the right orientation if you've set up its compass) and vibrate when the phone tells it to for direction information.

The watches simply lack the power of CPU, battery strength and input control to do any tracking themselves which in turn would be totally pointless for them to do when your phone is processing all the information for it in the 1st place.....


As for the comments about what Google, social media etc knows, well you agreed to it when you signed up and nothing is ever a free lunch fella....

Wrong!

It's not a functional as it is running on Android but it is now working with them!

​not exactly true. latest 5.1.1 update implements wifi. when not connected to a phone it can connect to wireless and still receive email messages search Google etc. I forgot my phone on bonfire night and automatically connected to the cloud wifi and sent me new notifications. obviously a phone connection for text etc is desirable

I've had my Moto 360 for a year now, wear it every day. I hadnt previously worn a watch for about 15 years, basically since I got my first mobile phone... I wasnt sure if I'd use it much, but I wouldnt be without it now. Its great to glance at emails, texts and other notifications. Also handy for live football scores and the cool updates that Google Now gives you.

The battery life is pretty good now, but the Moto 360 doesnt have the best battery life so relies on Ambient Mode being off & you'll easily get through a whole day, possibly two. It'll still show the time as soon as you look at your wrist. The amount of watchfaces is awesome, 1000's to choose from.

For instance, I had to dress up for a wedding so I replaced my usual watchface (digital with weather info) to a Rolex...

It is connected to your phone over WiFi instead of Bluetooth via Googles cloud. You also have to be connected to a WiFi connection your phone knows in order for this to happen, it is no different really other than the connection method. It's the same as the way you can now connect to someone else's watch once you've set up an agreement to do so.

How big is this? Been wanting to get one for a while, however, having skinny wrists, a huge watch face is going to look daft one me :smile:

Avoid. Smartwatches should have always on screens. Most of the time you glance at your watch face you are not pulling it up to your face to look at it. The battery life on this is pathetic.

Ordered the Stone grey one - for the price it's worth a shot in comparison with V2 pricewise - I like that it actually looks like a watch and the different watch faces available - early Xmas present to myself.

What flat tyre?

The biggest waste of money out for a watch, that needs to be charged everyday! COLD

Looks to be a load over at XDA

​ta

1 day charge Errr no thanks cold

ordered mine. Thanks

Guaranteed battery dies at the time you really need it . :disappointed:

Perpetual PITA

The leather strap is excellent, but it doesn't last particularly long.. I changed mine after about 4 months for a third party metal band (with some steelconnect M adapters, which are excellent and prevent back cracking issues with non-official straps) and it was already starting to look a little bit tatty/worn (which I know is part of the charm of leather, but I didnt really like it, and it used too get grubby when you cycle or jog)

I suspect the metal also adds some much needed weight (mine does), as the watch is far too light with the leather one.

Since the Steel Connect adapters alone are £35, plus the cost of a metal strap.. I'd say it is worth the extra £30 up front. You can also pick up the original leather strap if needed, finding the original metal used to be quite tricky in the UK.

John Lewis pricing is all over the place as well.. the leather is MORE on there, but the metal one was always the premium one by a fairly large margin.. so I'd say stick with it! (You'll notice the silver metal one is still 229 on John Lewis)

Come on guys, I understand peoples disappointment at the battery life but we are talking about one of the best (if not THE best) 1st gen smart watch for under £100! At this price point it's worth it just to sample the possibilities that are coming as this technology advances. If you try it and don't like it then you'll get most of your "investment" back by selling it on and probably only be £10-20 out of pocket (if that!).
Think back to when mobile phones used to last 7-10days between charges and yet now I'm living with a phone that I have to to charge every night. I accept this compromise because it has infinitely more functionality and possibilities than those phones of old.
I think possibly the weak point of the watch is the fact that you need the charging station to charge the watch so it's not possible to simply ask a mate for a usb charger or carry a battery pack with you like you can with your phone. If they had given it the possibility to charge from a standard usb cable as well then it would have helped alleviate battery anxiety.

I've been really tempted by these but can't decide if I will get the proper use being a IOS owner rather than android, can anybody confirm if this is worthwhile without another android device? I'd like to be able to swap watch faces etc, not to bothered about notifications. Thanks

Just bought myself one as an xmas present. Do I wait till xmas to use it though? ;~)

I got pulled in on the watch faces, and then did more research to find how limited that angle is right now on iOS.

So slightly regretting that I've ordered an Urbane.

There does appear to be sideloading options, but yet to delve in to see if it's worth the effort.

Of course there is hope Google will improve the iOS app over time as they clearly want to win some Phone owners over to their watches. It's just how quickly that happens and how much can be achieved with the current APIs available to 3rd parties.

I was considering a cheap Android tablet too. Could that pair with the watch temporarily to get apps on it, then pair back to the iPhone once ready?

Thanks guys, saved me some money :-)

I don't think it would work unfortunately.
To let someone try my watch with iOS I had to factory reset the watch (which deletes everything), and go through the setup process again (and do the same to pair it back to my android phone).. there doesn't seem to be a way to switch the registered device without resetting. (I believe this is a security thing in case someone steals the watch, they wont be able to join to their phone and then see your cached data)

Thanks Sam.

Annoying, but understandable I guess.

I guess I need to investigate if side loading is worth the effort, or if a barely used Urbane goes back on the market...

Would consider an Apple watch if it actually looked like a watch. But to be honest love real watches too much and saw this as a 'cheap' way to check it out.

I'm seriously considering getting the 2nd Gen Moto 360 for my iPhone 6 as I love the design and have read that there are improvements to the screen and battery life. From the research I have carried out ( forums, youtube, etc) it seems as if the following can still be carried out on ios:

1. Watch faces - At least 20 different faces with an option to download a select few others
2. All notifications that appear on the phone puhed through - Although I appreciate you can only dismiss as appose to reply etc
3. Fitness monitoring using hear rate sensor
4. Music control - Apparently works with apple music
5. Google apps - Mail, Google Now, Search
6. Ability to see who is calling and reject if required

For me the above would just about the do the trick and hopefully the android wear app will improve over time.

Anyone had any direct experience of the above?

Thanks

I think he means Google apps, not good apps.

This is a good article:

http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2015/09/android-wear-on-ios-a-hobbled-google-centric-smartwatch-experience/

In other words, I wouldn't waste the extra cash on a Moto 2 yet, see if you can pickup something cheap to try first. The value of a v1 will drop less than the loss on a v2 if you don't like it.

£99 for the 360 new is worth a punt, and thus used ones even cheaper. I got an Urbane for £130 off eBay that is barely used. Any higher than that I think I was just going to be too disappointed with the experience for now.

quite simply, these are just mini-smart phones so in the same way a smart phone needs overnight charging so do these, yes the screen's smaller but so proportionaly is the battery. I've worn one over a year now and am quite happy putting it in its cradle beside the bed everynight, same as I do with my phone. Those watches with longer battery life use much more basic displays, the experience is far less satisfying. Just think of your smartwatch as freedom from keep checking your phone all day, insofar as the benefit of the watch was to save the hassle of looking for a clock

Ordered mine yesterday at 09:20am and a nice man delivered it today at 12:05 :smiley:

Keep reading this to try and convince myself but the size of it does put me off...

I've tried min on just now and think it's the perfect size. Big enough to be able to see stuff on the screen but not overly big like the stupid fashion watch a colleague was wearing the other day. That watch must have been a good 5cm in diameter and looked ridiculous!

If you're put off by the size then the gen2 is the one to go for as they do two sizes .. his and hers.

I see them listed on Currys website so I plan to pop in tomorrow and hope they have some in stock to look at, they probably won't but worth a gamble...

Can anyone confirm that you can actually read Whatsapp notifications that come on your iPhone via Android Wear for IOS - Will I be able to see part of the message as I do in the lock screen of the phone? Thanks

Also for the IOS version do you need to have the app open at all times for the watch to work? E.g. if you close the app on the iphone app switcher will the watch disconnect?

You can also get Chinese knock offs:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Yarrashop%C2%AE-Waterproof-Monitor-Smartphones-Bluetooth/dp/B013OVWNGU/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1447349715&sr=1-5&keywords=yarrashop+smart+watch

Why are people complaining about the one-day charge? Its going to show the right time at least twice a day anyway.

You lot are all lemmings each following each other to buy this when it's pretty awful!!

Android Wear needs seriously development as do current Android smartwatches as this watch so lacking in major functionality.

If you had any sense, you'd wait for 3rd or 4th gen watches.

what's your gripe with Android Wear? seems great to me, love the way every week there's a whole new set of free watch faces on the Google store, looking forward to Christmas ones appearing. Since the introduction of the wrist flick function to move between notifications its been great

Its a complete waste of money , I think if you find this stuff interesting you need to find a better hobby , i think the saying is just because it can be done doesnt mean it should or needs to be done .

is it possible that a sealed item like this (the first circular smartwatch) might be worth more money as a collectible in the future?

see that's where you are being silly , You may find it surprising to know people can still live and breathe without everything which is currently in trend or popular , Infact they are probably living far more interesting lives.

either way, who are you to say people need to find a "better hobby" because something is not of interest to YOU. I'm not going to feed the troll as i'm not going to bother checking for a reply. But, seriously.... dude... shhh.

Hot for the deal but I have to confess that I simply can't see the point of wearing a miniture version on my wrist of something that's inches away in my left back pocket. I want one, can afford one but cannot see the point. I've been moaned at in meetings for checking my watch-let alone my phone, I don't call or operate a hand held device when I'm driving (company rule) so I can't justify it on convenience grounds.

Can someone educate me please so that I can find an excuse to take advantage of a reduction in price? :smiley:

I ordered mine.. received within two days.

first impressions , laggy , crappy battery and pretty much zero functionality. :disappointed:

then I swiped through settings and realised it was on 5.0.1 android. after forcing the update to 5.1, I was shocked :confused: ...

Over twelve hours of use and still had 39% battery left , which is more than acceptable for me. it works brilliantly ,more features, very responsive. well worth the £99!! :smile:

How do I make and answer calls on the 360? Oh that's right - you can't.....

Ordered late on Thursday. Guessing it won't arrive until next week now sadly. This was the right price to pull the trigger I think.

​i can after the 5.1 update..very easily

Finally got one at this price, as others have said make sure you update when you get it, the old software is pants in comparison to the current one. Also had it on since 9am today and it's now 6pm and on 79% battery life so can't complain.

Thanks for getting back, it's nudged me in the direction of ordering, what's the betting the price goes up or they run out of stock while I procrastinate? :wink:

EDIT: Ordered.

I really should blog about what I have built up on my Moto 360 - but I have had mine since launch and love it!

The ability to just glance at the notifications I get is great - someone calling? I can either choose to answer or dismiss it without even looking at my phone in my pocket. Great to just "OK google" a question too. When this is integrated into Google Now, the context is pretty amazing (like getting traffic notifications before I leave work).

As for what I have built, using Tasker I have got full integration into my home automation. If I am sat at home, I get a notification on my watch when it's getting dark asking if I want the lights on - I can just tap on what lights I want to switch on. Same for at bedtime, it will turn off all the lights and the TV (using Harmony).

Works fine for me..

Couldn't resist at that price... Ordered last night and it's already been handed over to the courier in London, so should be with me tomorrow hopefully.

Any recommendations for a black steel strap?
I've ordered the Fenguh one on Amazon, but expected shipping time is a bit crap.

I too am interested in the metal straps when mine arrives tomorrow. I think I might need a jeweler though to remove links, an extra cost unfortunately! Seem to be loads on eBay

Once this comes down to £49.99 from Moto at the end on November in time for Xmas then it will
be defo worth a punt :wink:

maxmix

Thanks op. Nice find.

You must have a magic one then because it doesn't have a speaker phone or mic.....

thanks op. didn't fancy smart watches but decided to try one at this price and what a great little great try it turned out to be. especially after the last update which enabled to use your watch without having a Bluetooth connection to your phone. it would be handy for footie scores at work where phones aren't allowed :smile:

It doesn't have a speaker so you're correct that it can't be used to actually make calls unless you use a Bluetooth headset but it DOES have a mic (microphone) otherwise "OK Google.." wouldn't work would it.

Any chance of some pics with that strap in your 360? Also, do you know if the links are solid/heavy or hollow/light?

Update from an iOS user...

Played with my Urbane over the weekend and in general I could live with the reduced iOS functinality. Notifications and music control are enough to make it useful.

However, the deal breaker for me is the lack of watch faces. The Urbane would look amazing with the mass that are available if you are on Android, but none of the supplied ones interest me. Just give me a way to have Pujie black would do.

So I think I'll put it up for sale soon.

Side by side with the 360 the Urbane wins for me. Yes costs more and the screen is a little smaller, but the P-OLED screen is much nicer and the always on with no flat tyre is big win.

Despite the need to get rid of this one and wait a little longer for Android Wear to get better on iOS or Apple to create a round watch. I'm surprised I'm more interested in smartwatches than I thought. The tech is getting there and the fact we can have ones that look like real watches is huge.

Nope.. But since i'm not dick tracey I don't want to handle calls by speaking and listening to my watch (that would be stupid).. it works via a link to a bluetooth headset.. as expected by everyone but you.

Of course.. Here you go: https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipNvsTL8EWf0ItoMbD9cgiajuwGUuxYA5cAPrg6M

The speckle's on parts of it are spray paint (I made the mistake of forgetting to remove it). The adapters I have for that strap are the SteelConnect M 180 (the 225 is bent this ones straight)

The links of this band? they are pretty solid..

I get the following error when clicking the link:

"403. That’s an error.

We're sorry, but you do not have access to this page. That’s all we know"

Bought it. Waited for the sub £100 price. Thanks OP

Its because i tried to post the full url as HUKD breaks the shareable one.. try this:

https://****/photos/tH8TgeCfJ36fytwPA

But where the **** are put googl with a . between the third and 4th charactors. goo dot gl

​i don't use taskerwear - but auto notification. That way it simply shows in the notifications on my watch or phone, and you can have action buttons which are accessible by swiping across on wear. as for HA - I use Telldus as the network connected piece, and Nexa / Home Easy stuff for lighting. it's all 433mhz based and available at Class Ohlson

You have now got me very interested in this! I am looking at home automation but unsure where exactly to start... Telldus does look like it does what I am after.. I also have recently purchased Tasker but have yet to play with it...

Mmmm... interesting... I hadn't thought of using AutoNotifcation (I already have that installed as well). Sometimes the simple solutions aren't the most obvious ones.Thanks :smiley:

If you're using the 433 versions I assume they are the "older" versions not the ZWave version ?
I'm not keen on wireless as a solution as in my experience it's a pig of a job to try and diagnose WHEN something goes wrong. Hardwired is my preferred option wherever possible. Having said that I have looked at ZWave in the past and am currently contemplating buying the Heat Genius system to automate our heating.

Stone colour is oos.
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Telldus is "nice"! There is a couple niggles with it... The key thing to remember is it's 1-way, there is no response from the device you are switching to confirm it followed out the command. Tellsdus does "sniff" the commands from other devices / remotes however to help with that. One of the up sides is that Telldus have a wide range of support for 433Mhz based stuff, so can can interchange brands without any major overhaul.
The alternative for wireless solutions is Z-Wave - but it's more expensive.

I have these switches: HERE and use the Nexa stuff from Clas Ohlson for sockets etc. The network "controlling" device, is a Tellstick Net. It's all web based, so needs a permanent connection to the Internet.

on my phone, I have the Remotestick App, which also has a Tasker plugin so you can easily setup actions. The Auto Notify is basically a customisable Notification pop-up. Mixed in with Twilight Tasker plugin to trigger only at dusk :smiley:

Correct - It is only 1-way, and sometimes can act up. X10 is just too dated IMHO, and Z-Wave more than I would like to spend. It kinda works as a balance - it seems pretty reliable enough for me. I also use the Telldus stuff for automating a temperature activated heat spot in my terrarium, which is pretty flawless, so trust it enough.

Yeah X10 is pretty old tech (1970's) and not always that reliable but it works 99% of the time for me. UK X10 (unlike the USA models) is also pretty much one way as well i.e. no status updates. When I installed it in our house (20+ LD11 units) there was no ZWave around so X10 was the cheapest available automation route. The Nexa stuff does seem very cheap in comparison but not running off mains voltage is a bit of a stumbling block for me. I'm reluctant to have all my light switches reliant on batteries which is also one of the reasons I'm still pondering with HeatGenius as all the TRVs and PIR's run off batteries as well.

No batteries on any of the stuff I have.. It's all mains powered. The only thing that has batteries in it is the remote control, or if you want the passive switches on walls. All the sockets, switches etc are mains powered. The HomeEasy stuff actually has some good instructions downloadable online.

Sorry my bad.. When I checked on the site the wall switches all looked to be battery powered. I'll take another look :smiley:

I got the one with metal strap for £100 but couldn't get on with the stap didn't suit me.

Got the SteelConnect and now have this strap on:

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Edit: doesn't HUKD like Google photos?

Does anybody know if a free app to transfer watch faces to the moto? I have the free watchmaker app but it keeps asking you to buy the premium app when trying to set watchmaker. Cheers

I went for the £130 dark chrome with metal band from PC World as I couldnt be bothered with buying a £15 strap then the hassle of fitting it etc. Plus its perfectly colour matched to the body of the watch.

Anyway, the actual watch is **** poor. Seriously, dont even bother, save your money. The LG G Watch R I had, running OLDER software, not the nice 5.1 update, ran so much smoother than the latest 5.1 on the Moto 360.

The UI constantly stutters and hangs, the wake up gestures are finnicky as hell and only work when they want to half the time. Oh and the battery life, don't even get me started. I dont have google now or anything like that enabled, use it to skip the odd music track or the odd "ok google" command during the day, but otherwise it's there for timekeeping and for the very few notifications I actually receive during the day (5 or so emails, couple of texts, few fb messenger notifications, EXTREMELY light usage). It was off the charger at 7:30am, and 6 hours later its sitting at 52%. That's 8% an hour for what is 99% in standby usage.

Meanwhile the old G Watch R, WITH google now, WITH ambient display on (keeps the display on all of the time), used to get me through 2 days. That included a lot of music navigation, responding to texts and fb messages, swiping through loads of google now cards, etc.

Who knows, maybe I have a faulty battery. Either way, you'd be best served picking up a G Watch R or Urbane on eBay or something on the cheap. Motorola make very nice hardware these days, but they are right at the bottom when it comes to software optimisation and battery life (that goes for their phones too).

Are you sure it updated correctly and if so have you Factory reset it after it upgraded itself?
Battery life on the Moto360 is never going to match LG, it's a smaller battery, LCD screen (uses more power) and uses an old CPU that is not very fast or efficient BUT it's far cheaper at £99!. These points are nothing new but the point is that it should easily be capable of lasting a day (24hrs) if you turn off ambient mode (i.e. the watch is not always on). After upgrading mine seems to use approx. 3.5% per hour and I get between 24hr and 34hrs out of it (although I actually put it on charge every night so as long as it lasts 16hrs it's fine for me). Battery use does vary by how many times you turn it on (i.e. look at it) and how many notifications you receive etc but also if apps auto update themselves (via GooglePlay on you phone) then you'll see more battery usage during those times. One big drain on the battery for me was driving. Every time I changed gear on my 2-3hr commute the watch would turn on thinking I was looking at it. Now I just double tap the button to put Cinema mode on when I get in the car. My phone still vibrates when I get a notification and I just press the button on the watch to view it (hen safe to do so). Two taps of the button when I get out of the car and I then get notifications on the watch. This really did make a massive difference to my battery usage (probably 6-8hrs difference).

I don't notice any screen stutter or hangs on mine. Have you made sure that the Android wear app is up to date on your phone ?

I would really recommend doing a factory reset on the phone . Before resetting make sure you remove the watch from the list of connected devices on android wear app and then afterwards you simply go through the repairing process and all the apps will be repushed to it from Android Wear App.

My MotoG phone has probably the best battery life of any low end Android phone I've had. Again it really does depend on what you do and where you are (i.e. signal strength) during the week when my phone is at work with me (low signal area) I get a days use (18-24hrs) but at weekends when I'm at home with my phone it can easily last 2 days. This is with GPS/Bluetooth/WiFi all turned on permanently, with previous phones I'd have had to keep these services turned off in order to eek out a days battery use.

Just as I posted that it decided to kill itself and shut off at 13%. Awesome watch.

I'm on KitKat still so it may be a Marshmallow issue? 10% per hour seems very excessive. Is this with ambient mode OFF ?
Have you tried just running one of the stock clock faces, I've heard the fancier non stock ones can be a battery drain.
As for battery stats I installed "wear battery stats" to keep an eye on battery usage ; https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.npi.wearbatterystats&hl=en_GB

Definitely a problem there. It shouldn't be warm all the time. Either something is keeping the processor awake/busy all the time or it's a hardware fault.

Try denying G-fit permissions also

Glad you got it sorted.

I do remember that initially mine did a similar thing in that it was very warm after the update was applied. I Factory Reset it (based on good practice when flashing new phone ROMs) and it was fine after that. This is why initially asked you'd done a factory reset on yours. Anyway glad you got it sorted in the end.

I tried turning on Ambient mode on mine over the week end. The battery lasted around 13hrs so not really practical as I'd need it to last more like 17 hours to see me through a full day.

I know this is a moto 360 deal but for £100 I'm unsure whether to get the moto 360 or smart watch 3. Moto 360 looks nicer but the sw3 seems better for performance etc. Any suggestions?

Sold out now

yeah took too long debating it and now its gone I want it!!!!

Back in stock now

Looks like oos here

That's strange. It was in stock at around 20:10 and when I went to put in my card details and pressed purchase, it got removed from my basket and then it went back to out of stock.

Really frustrating.

I CAN CONFIRM THAT IT IS BACK IN STOCK - JUST ORDERED

Never mind - Order got cancelled for some reason