What's your recommendation for an 5th gen i5 laptop or equivalent performance with a 13inch screen of a higher resolution at this price.

​Are you Benjamin with new user name?

I like when people post a deal is rubbish but offer no link for the better option

Good price and good spec ..... Heat added

Would be hot if it weren't for the resolution. I couldn't go back to that now.

Not voting either way, as decent for someone who doesn't know any different.

Too expensive for a 1366 x 768

Would be hot if it weren't for the resolution. I couldn't go back to that now.

Not voting either way, as decent for someone who doesn't know any different.

looks good

Good price for the specs, but I'm looking for fanless/ssd/8gb config, so going to pass this one.

No- but I like Benjammin316's style. He's a great guy!!

You mentioned the problem in your reply. It's a 5th generation i5. But the components are not up to that spec and wont be able to it justice. Bog-standard graphic-chip, sound card, 1366 x 768, 13.3 inch screen, - I expect and i5 to be able to handle heavy gaming, but this won't. You can't just talk about an "i5" - (at this high level) -everything else counts as well. You need to spend a whole lot more to get the rest of the laptop up to that i5 processing standard. I bought a 15.3 inch, i3, with standard graphics and sound card, for £325 in 2013. It's ok for streaming and stuff, but I wouldn't consider it to be a heavyweight amongst laptops. Technically, this would be COLD, but I did not vote. BTW, it's a 1366 x 768:)

1366 x 768 is killer, even mobile phone and tablet PC do better than these days. No doubt why PC sales are so poor these days...

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Think you overestimating the abilities of a mobile, low power I5 cpu there

Why have an Intel i5 in it at all then?

Turbo? HT? Other features disabled on i3?
Remember HUGS - the faster it finishes the more it can sleep. :wink:

And you got a 2013 i3 with those specifications from 2013. This is ideal for people who might do video encoding, photo editing and so on as a hobby at home where a little more grunt means more time to do other things.

You have touted poor screen resolutions as an issue and expectations that in your opinion that it should be able to handle gaming but you still haven't suggested a suitable alternative for the same money to cover either of those bases, never mind both.

I personally would love a quad core i7 equivalent with a GTX960 with SLI, an SSD and qHD screen for this money. It's not going to happen any time soon however.

Any1 know what the battery life of these are like?

Price doesn't look bad for what it is, could stick a old SSD I have as well

Thinking of using it like a tablet, TV streaming

know this ain't really built for gaming, but should work for low end and light gaming

Used a i5 HD4000 MacBook in bootcamp(?) Windows before, and it ran LOL on it quite well

Can't expect too much for £350

heat, 13 inch laptops carry a premium, this looks great value and 5th gen i5 great all round chip

These new 'U' Intels are really disappointing, this has comparable processing power to a 3rd gen i5 or a 4th gen i3. They seem to just release 'new' processors with no advances. Sad thing is their marketing works, people see i5/i7 and assume its a good CPU. I had the misfortune of having an i7 5500U in a laptop, so weak for doing programming work. They're not even that great on battery life.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2440&cmp[]=819&cmp[]=2410

Heat for mentioning the res. Its like a budget version of my spectre x360

I find the i5 5200u fine in my laptop running iis, SQL server 2014 with some 10gb+ databases, photoshop and dreamweaver. With brightness turned down I can get through a day at work without a charger. I struggle to get less than 6 hours even when gaming on it.

I'm not a programmer but I'm guessing he means it's weak for compiling time?

I like when people post a deal is rubbish but offer no link for the better option

Good price and good spec ..... Heat added

This deal is rubbish. And, no I'm not going to post a link to a better deal.

But seriously. Not voted. What some people have mentioned above holds true. This may be cheap for an i5. But it's worth remembering that gen5 U processors are fairly mediocre. My gen 3 i3 is just as powerful.
The rest of the laptop will play an important role in overall usability. While I like convertible laptops. We're all used to high quality displays on tablets now. So a poor res display on this one stands out even more.

Damn would have bought this if had a higher res. I really need 1080p for spreadsheets and photoshop

at this price i'd rather get a refurbished i7 laptop from ebay

would this be any good for playing minecraft?

There is NOTHING wrong with processor- it's good. I have already stated that. The problem is the rest of the components. you need to upgrade a lot of this to really make good use of it.

The fact that I told you about my 2013 i3 and the fact you replied directly about my i3 may have suggested to you that I would propose an i3- maybe it didn't. So let me answer you question clearly: AN i3!!!. Its cheaper and far more suited to standard components in this computer. Don't get me wrong- The i5 processor is very good, but just not suited to this machine. I don't know how I got mixed up in this- All I came here to do was write " 1366 x 768 "

An i3. It will be cheaper and you can still have a 1366 x 768 res

Good to see a marginally improved graphics part over the fourth generation, even if the CPU performance isn't a big leap on the previous generation. Presumably the Broadwell CPU's 14nm process means marginally less heat/throttling and longer battery life, too, if not up to Skylake standards. Not to say I disagree with frustrations about Intel's sometimes incrementally small upgrades and sometimes backward steps in order to hit a power consumption/heat spec. Looking forward to Skylake's still better graphics part, if not optimistic about U-series ultrabook-spec processing power.

Screen resolution is disappointing, I like it when people point that out, but then at that price it is likely to be, outside of some refurbished deal. Heat.

It's not the resolution but technology that matters. Cheap TN screens make eyes sore after 5 minutes.

I bet you are benjamin with a new usename:-) No body can post screen resolution in 1st comment on every laptop deal 24*7 as good as benjamin :-)

Agree with previous comments:
- the resolution is low for a laptop as even most new phones now have higher resolution. I have no idea what the cost difference for manufacturers is but I would definitely be happy to pay extra £50 just to have full HD. I bet it would cost much less than that for them to jump to full HD
- misleading i5/i7 CPU laptop labeling. Looking at CPUboss benchmarks, laptop i7 are similar to desktop i3 and make shopping for laptops very confusing. Surely there must be some demand for fast laptops even with poor battery life and bigger size

However, overall, this seems like a reasonable price for convertible touch screen laptop.

Reasonable deal. Higher resolution touch screens cost quite a bit more.

I agree but where I think it's worth noting that yes, the improvements in CPU performance, especially with ultrabook-spec CPUs, may be incremental or in some benchmark cases a downgrade, the flip side is slimmer form factors of laptops thanks to less heat generated, some are passively cooled and so no fan noise, and sometimes, depending how slim the form factor is, longer battery life between charges. Also, other important things sometimes get overlooked, like improved integrated graphics performance between CPU generations, and things like the new features that new motherboard architectures bring, some of which are trivial, some of which are very welcome. On the other hand, if those things aren't important, why spend, love the tech you have or can pick up cheaply on eBay. Particularly if it has a better screen!

Exactly, I can see how someone using it as an editor, where they can't work faster than the computer, might think its powerful, but for doing real processing work like compiling, where it will be working at maximum for hours, its a weak CPU. And as I pointed out before it has the computing power comparable to some i3's.

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He's actually more annoying than Benjammin316 so I think he's just a copy cat

I can assure you I am not. Benjammin316 is the best contributor on HUKD. His analyses are so incisive.

I am so glad I annoy you- I will be doing this much much more. Many people now copy Benjammin316's style- not just me.

It's worth noting the power consumption, These chips are designed for low power use (15w vs nearly 40w). They are not intended to be powerhouses.

True, though only 2 watts down from the 3rd gen i5 from 2 years ago. Hardly ground breaking. That's also TDP, not an accurate measure of how much power it will consume. I don't know actual figures but this could use more power at idle than a 40W TDP CPU.

​what are you blathering about? This is a budget priced laptop NOT a gaming machine, does anyone expect a gaming laptop for this price??

There are other uses for computers than gaming you know? Decent i5, good amount of RAM perfect for the next step up from just browsing and Word this would be a good machine for casual photoshop use or video editing which dont need huge amounts of vram or graphics grunt, also Intel 5500 isn't that bad you could easily enjoy older games on it. Some of my favourite games are still Quake 3 & Unreal Tournament (99 edition).

I really think you're expecting too much for your money

​so where can you buy a previous gen i3 at this price point then. It's all well and good pointing out a different cpu but if you can't buy it in a decent laptop at this price point your whole suggestion is completely irrelevant because you can't buy it. When someone says point out an alternative it doesn't mean a different cpu it means list a better deal that CAN CURRENTLY BE BOUGHT

Just rambling on like this is completely pointless

If it's "budget" then get a budget machine . Why do you want to spend £350 on a "budget" machine??

He wanted a suggestion- so I gave him one. An i3 can do all these things you are demanding and is much cheaper. i3s DO STILL EXIST. You can buy one today and cheaper than this.

I'm not expecting anything. Just warning people, who might think latest gen i5 makes this a deal. It doesn't.
It's a good price for this sort of laptop. 720p screen is just acceptable on 13.3". And the convertible factor with a touch screen is great. But this is hardly as portable as Surface 3 you mention.

I have a great suggestion for you, but its not to do with computers. :wink:

Its a decent machine for the price point its being sold at. Either post these convertible i3 deals you keep mentioning or jog on.

Regards
Flea

I don't know who the hell you are. I also have a suggestion for you that is not to do with computers. If you do not like what I say- TOUGH. YOU JOG ON

Yes, completely agree with you. It's an i5 (5th generation). People may not like the 5th generation- I like it. I was only asking why put something as powerful as this in such as bad case?? low res, 13.3 inch screen standard sound card and graphics chip. It makes no sense to me. People are now saying to me this i5 is a budget PC!!! Give me a break. It as powerful you can get processing wise- but why stick and i5 in this?? I do not understand the abuse I am getting

Its a mobile i5 which means it isnt as strong as you think its only dual core and this is probably the equivalent of an i3 in a desktop.

Having a good processor will allow this to do stuff like photo editing, video editing and playing the odd easy to run game otherwise you might aswell just get an atom based convertible.

It is good bang for your buck aswell as the atom version with 2gb of ram and 10.1" screen is £200 so for the extra £150 you get a bigger screen a lot better processor and 4gb more of ram so I think it is definetly worth it.

Well, thanks for placing this computer in context for me. I find this laptop to be highly confusing. Are there no mobile i3s?

Ive got this laptop TP300L not sure how it differs from the LA, Screen resolution isnt great but battery life is really good although im not a gamer and use for work only. Worse thing i ever did was upgrade it to windows 10.. I think there's better laptops out there for the price now. hope it help people decide.