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Pretty good, will have no trouble at 1080p maxing the vast majority of games

I paid the extra £5 and got the Lightning Version ...already shipped so happy days. I'm upgrading from a 270x so expect to be blown away (fingers crossed).

I'm not after causing a wave of new posters etc and... folks who join with it in mind tend to not make the best folks to interact with but lets just say there's a certain number of posts needed on OcUK's forums where upon a certain sub-forum magically appears :smile:

Does Fable Legends use DX12 feature level 1?

Rubbish.

No AMD GPU supports all DX12 feature levels and features either.


Fable Legends (DX12) running on the 770...

Where might one start looking for a second hand £400 980ti?

The 7xx cards are DX12 compatible, both Maxwell and Fermi cards. There is driver support for it in Windows 10 only. The link above by Adam shows this. There are different features of DX12 supported by different cards. That is all.

Even if Pascal can achieve that sort of jump they sadly won't do it. Since the 200 series it has always been about the x70 being similar to the x80 of the previous gen and a 20%ish rise at the top. With AMD still playing catchup they are not going to give that much boost in one go, you will more likely get three years of slow upgrades out of it instead.

Cracking card for what it's worth.

Pretty much on par with a 970, if I remember right at least. SLI these puppies and you'll have a great time, I would assume :innocent:

I remember back when i paid almost £400 for a 770 4gb, oh how times change... haha :stuck_out_tongue: great card for a amazing price! well worth getting!

Nvidia tend to get slack with the drivers for their older cards on purpose, so if you plan on buying a card to own a while I would consider something newer by them or an AMD. Personally with all the stuff Nvidia pulls I would never consider buying from them eg crippling titles on purpose to get people to upgrade, lying about specifications etc. Each to their own though.

If i where you I would go research it a bit more and stop linking me to a geforce product page which was most likely created when the cards where released.

Fermi and kepler will be capable of using dx12 although it will not have same features as the 900 series. They can still use Dx12.

Edit : Look what i found on your favorite website :smile: : http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3711/~/which-nvidia-gpus-will-support-dx12%3F

Would definitely go with the GTX 780.

The R9 380 is a rebadged R9 285 (with about 2% clock speed increase).
The 780 soundly beats the R9 285 sooo...

If it was £20 worth of something I'd not be bothered but a £200 graphics card is a pretty decent investment for most people, trade up :wink:

(for the hell of it, not speaking as a fan boy either, if this was a £150 R9 380 vs a £190 GTX780 and it sounded like the extra £40 was a problem I'd be voting the R9 380)

A GTX 770 soundly beats a 380, a 780 will wreck it performance-wise. I'd send it back personally..
Source for 770: http://www.eteknix.com/sapphire-nitro-r9-380-4gb-graphics-card-review/7/

Jump in any time you like, there's 980ti's to be found for £450 (certainly will be on black friday). Second hand in the right places (not ebay) they're around £400. Currently the cheapest without some sort of deal I can find is £480 (from OcUK as it happens).

Next year is pascal, it's a pretty considerable jump in performance compared to the jump from the last to current gen (e.g the 980ti is about 25% faster than the 780ti, pascal is looking to be about double the 980ti).

Just because it runs a benchmark test doesn't mean it's supported at all, it's not. There's a key difference between support and not supported when it comes to vendors. If it's supported and doesn't work, they fix it. If it's not supported, they don't, as they never claimed it would ever work.

You can feed 1080p into a 720p screen, it will work but you won't get 1080p out. The screen doesn't support it. You can feed colour into a black and white TV, it won't magically display colour.

You can tell a 7xx card to run DX12 games, good luck with that.

Spec for GTX 770 here ->http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-770/specifications


I sold my 770 for a reason.

Possibly if you feel its worth the hassle for a bit more performance

I just bought a r9 380 nitro for £169.99. :disappointed: Is it worth buying this instead and sending the r9 380 back?

They have bought clearance stock in of last gen cards in bulk from manufacturers. This card beats the 970 in most benchmarks, but uses a bit more power and has 3GB rather than the 3.5GB plus 0.5GB that the 970 has. For most people the £70 saving for a card that is about as good is a sensible option, though personally I am still waiting for the next gen to appear unless a mega deal appears.

Free delivery is available to anyone who can be bothered posting in the forums a bit for OCUK. I got into a couple of chats in some threads about 4 years ago and have had a fair few free deliveries on the back of it.

I think you need to start researching it more mate. From what i read very little of what you mentioned above is true.

Edit : Actually found this video a few clicks away from the link you posted : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc4dsiq-I7g

And to think you said "The 7xx series cards now clearly state, again as linked above, that they only support DX11."

Agreed. However, assuming this is the last DX11 card you will buy, it may as well be a good one. The 780 is OK but you could do far better now. I switched from a 770 to a 980Ti when they came out and the difference was startling.

Objection! Hearsay!

Links or it didn't happen. I've linked to clear confirmation that the GeForce 9xx series cards will happily support DX12. I've seen no links from you at all, just rumour.

Initially there was communication that the 7xx series cards would support DX12 on Windows 10. This was indeed misleading as, whilst they will indeed happily support Windows 10 and a DX12 machine, they won't run DX12 games properly. They will happily run DX11/DX9 games on a Windows 10/DX12 machine but not the full feature set.

This is not the case with the 9xx series cards which does indeed support DX12 with feature set 1 as stated above.

The 7xx series cards now clearly state, again as linked above, that they only support DX11.

Nvidia are, once again lying in a way. The most performance increasing dx12 feature is not available natively on any Nvidia hardware (asynchronous compute). They tried to say they could emulate the hardware but it has been proved to cause so many problems they can't use it.
That is a fact. People need to realise nvidia love to twist the truth.
No Nvidia GPU fully supports DX12 and they WILL suffer due to their lack of foresight.

There is never a 'right' time to upgrade in technology; it forever improves. Right now, this is the best deal for a graphics card around in my opinion. So it's whether you want to jump on board now or wait until something better comes for a cheaper price, since it always does eventually

Should wait yes. Next year (hopefully) will bring HBM2 for higher end cards and even lower end ones, say GTX 1050, will get GDDR5X which is faster than current GDDR5

But this requirement won't matter for years to come. It doesn't give any direct graphical boosts, only that it fully support DirectX 12. The 780 supports all of the performance boosts that DirectX12 includes, so it'll only be when DirectX12 is the only supported version available of a game where this card will suffer. And right now, there are few DirectX 11 only games, let alone 12

So based on advice here I should wait before upgrading my gtx 550ti ? Until the next batch of cards are out ? This year or next year ? Feel I've been waiting a while already :smile:

No they won't, it just depends if your model is compatible with DX12 or not. The GTX970, that somebody mentioned above, and even the cheaper GTX950, are compatible with DX12 Feature Level 12.1.

http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-950/specifications

Will struggle with new DX12 / Windows 10 titles. Good price for what is available now though.

so no delivery price included again?

Ah!
Yes... that explains it!

£10 more than the last batch!
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/msi-geforce-gtx-780-gaming-edition-3gb-graphics-card-169-99-9-90-postage-179-89-2299204

What is the real situation on drivers for this? Is this really likely to be crippled by Nivida? This card is an idea replacement for my R9 270 2GB but I'm thinking longer term. I'd change it in about 2-3 years max anyway.

I suppose they have to sell old out of date stock off to make room for next gen cards

Not a fan of Overclockers myself, but what's the issue with this card? It's only the previous gen card almost flagship card, surely not bad?

still overpriced like always but anyway whats the Delivery cost about £9-£11 ?

I see overclockers are still well over priced on there memory deals

Old card now wouldn't buy myself