I have never had to swap out a duff battery. But what's that got to do with the price of cheese?! In my critical line of work, I need my phone on me at all times and cannot afford to sit next to a wall plug. With the external battery kit, I am able to swap out the battery for fresh ones when I run out. So far, I have had to do this every day. So this feature has saved me (and probably some lives too).

I also have a very small child and like to take lots of videos of her in 4K. The 128Gb memory card has allowed me to store hours and hours of video. Without this, and only with the typical 32gb in most phones, I would have missed a lot of memories that I captured on holiday when we didn't have a computer to download onto or cloud to upload to.

Hope that gives you an insight into how this can benefit people in the real world.

micro sd slot and removable battery in g4

Totally agree. Also when I am abroad I like to have my 20GB of music with me as well as my Offline navigation maps (currently using 6GB+ of tomtom maps, few good games and videos when internet is not always available. It is very shortsighted to say that external memory is becoming redundant.

It's amazing how much influence Apple has over other phone manufacturers and on Google (Android) too. Apple didn't Flash on their phones and basically killed it off as a mobile application, especially after Google followed suit. Apple didn't want removable batteries and SD expansion. Google goes the same way with its Nexus devices and with each iteration of Android, makes it more difficult for other manufacturers to include SD expansion. And more and more manufacturers are following Apple by sealing in the battery. What set Androi apart from Apple in the early days is vanishing with each new version of the Android OS.

Do you think that people have been sucked into the idea that latest is greatest and best? The Android o/s is fragmented to the point that it's impossible to keep everyone on every handset up to date.
With the (lowering and very quickly depreciating) cost of handsets these days, I don't think it's unreasonable to change every couple of years, so long as you look at a model that's been out for at least 5-6 months.
I think that app devs will be making JB apps for a very long time to come yet - so even though Android itself as an o/s will have moved on, I don't necessarily think that it means that a handset automatically becomes obsolete.
Everyone just gets so fixated with having the new shiny toy - with the latest o/s etc., when in fact an older handset probably works more efficiently and has less go wrong with it.
Just my opinion of course LOL

Cool thanks for that, was kinda thinking the same thing really so you confirmed it. I'm still not sure whether to take the plunge and go for the phone though... Might sit tight for now. The nexus 5x does look good but I personally couldn't justify the additional cost over this LG G4.

The N5X should have the best camera in the business - it's not about mega-pixels but sensor size, and Nexus has the biggest there
LG bloatware ia a worry - My previous LG G2 was very laggy. Vanilla android on the Nexus will be smooth as
G4 will be lucky to get any more updates after marshmallow - Nexus will be looked after for years to come
32GB is plenty for the vast majority
after 1080p the benefits for the human eye decrease on small screens like a mobile. 1080p is sufficient and easy on the battery
Same processor and GPU

Very torn between either
1) Nexus 5x
2) LG G4
3) None of the above - (try and eek another year out of aging Nexus 4 - with a replacement battery fitted its still going strong!)

If I am going to get another phone then the smart money is on the G4. Its much better hardware for (now a bit less) money. Will get Marshmallow, and chances are reasonable it'll get next year's android (N) version too.
After than I guess just custom roms.

Although the Nexus 5x is reasonable spec, its just not worth the money. 2GB ram, small (non-expandable) storage + worse screen (And probably worse camera) is just too big a price to pay for a fingerprint reader and maybe 1 more official android annual refresh, when there will be be a Android "O" / 2017 custom rom I can manually put on the G4 anyway (and if really lucky then an official rom!)

The phone is £309.99 fulfilled by Ebuyer.co.uk - Is it worth paying the extra to have it fulfilled by amazon? Are there any benefits?

Regardless of the fact the G4 has a Micro SD & a removable battery, I'm really torn on whether to get the Nexus 5x (which I have on order but can cancel anytime) or the LG G4 now that it is more or less the same price.
I prefer the looks of the Nexus 5x which seems slimmer & is lighter & I'm unsure about the G4s buttons on the back. But the G4 has a 5.5" screen, a higher resolution & a fantastic camera.

btw, had a Nexus 5 up until a few months back but it failed, so I'm rocking an Moto E 2nd Gen until I get either the G4 or Nexus 5x. Its ok, but I need a bigger screen & more oomph & better camera.

oh I cant make my mind up!!

Just got mine through, been playing with it all night... gotta say it's an amazing phone so far. Camera is really really good! Big step up from my old Xperia Z and Nexus 4!

£293.47* 4.8% discount
The price you found at http://www.amazon.co.uk was £308.46 inclusive of £0.00 standard delivery
Savings: £14.99

I am a phone addicts. have had them all this year and I mean all... though the Mrs was about to serve me divorce papers.

Bought the lg g4 on Amazon for 313.99 it was the grey version.

Can honestly say this is the nuts for the money. battery life is great for medium use, camera is awesome. i use Nova so don't worry about the lg skin. removable battery and SD slot are the icing on the cake.

only slight criticism is the build perhaps. that said a good case and you are away

I've just cancelled my nexus 5x per-order in favour of this. Form factor is my biggest worry as I too have been happily using a nexus 5.. Hoping its a good move.

Thinking of getting rid of my iphone 6 for this, whats your opinion?

I'd be considering this had I not just had to fork out for several other items this month. the size factor is an issue, though. I find my current nexus 5 big enough as it is.

Thats exactly what i thought. coming from an N4, this thing is a beast.

​wish I had the cash to try out a new phone, z5 premium looks like a beast. apart from fixed battery looks amazing on paper and in pics

Yep I figured the "open" sale wouldn't exactly go smoothly, couldn't be bothered even trying tbh. SInce you get the 30 day peace of mind with amazon, it's a bit of a no brainer given the recent price reductions.

I was so gutted about the 5x, couldn't believe the £379 price tag for 32GB. Ah well, I've essentially had an LG phone for last 3 years with the nexus 4 and 5 so happy to give the G4 a go.....

Im off one plus now after the issues with todays sale without invite went terrible and they had time to sort stuff out and get their act together. Only stand out feature the g4 doesnt have but 1+2 does is a fingerprint sensor. Agreed, the nexus is overpriced and underspeced :/. Im going to need to get my hands on a g4 to try it out

I was having the same debate. Nearly went for the oneplus two but I've heard the OS is pretty buggy and although it boasts great specs it seems a bit rough around the edges. Also the fact that customer service seems quite poor and their distribution/production output has exactly been fantastic, seems a bit overhyped tbh. With the G4 now at this price, it's made the decision for me.

Nexus 5x is a huge disappointment, way overpriced for the spec and goes against the previous google nexus ethos (I've previously had the nexus 4 and 5 and would have gone for the 5x if it wasn't so underspecced and over priced) I'm a huge fan of the vanilla android, can't stand the pointless software that HARDWARE companies insist on sticking on the phone, however...

In the end I think I'm going to go for the g4, I've had a little play at local mobile phone shop, the UI seems fairly similar to native google, sd card is a bonus and the camera is meant to be really good. It's also gets 4-5/5 consistently and that was when it was retailing at £450+.

What's LG's version of Android like + how good are they at updating it? Trying to decide which phone to get, and I'm currently leaning towards the Nexus 5x for the guaranteed updates for 2/3 years even though the specs are slightly better for the G4.

Very fast, camera almost slr in quality (the best phone), love LG's software, not full of bloat like Samsung, screen lovely, fast charging enabled (just get a £10 charger off Amazon), circle case very nice sd card.

Got one a few months ago off an eBay seller for around this price. Best phone I've had.

Only from my experience of the LG G3, I wouldn't touch the LG G4! On stock rom it's laggy, battery sucks and gets hot easily. I flashed a Rom which is a copy of the LG G4 Rom called CloudyG32.5 - it's improved those things quite a bit but still not great. The LG G3 has a lovely camera and screen, but LG's software/Rom is pretty woeful & laggy hence I wouldn't touch the LG G4. The LG G3 crashed in price not long after launch which says a lot, no doubt the LG G4 will price crash even more down than this current price. If you don't believe my issues, you only need to google any of them and see post after post of issues. Shame really as spec wise it sounds great on paper, but actual reality is dire.

​I totally agree, After being with Samsung since the original galaxy phone I moved away from Samsung because they seem to follow the the apple route of over charging for their products. I switched to LG (G2) which seem to be the working class hero taking on the big boys lol. I'm in two minds whether to upgrade to the G4.....it looks awesome

just don't. get the galaxy s6 you won't regret it. Sure its a bit pricier. But its so much better. Just don;t...

It's amazing how much influence Apple has over other phone manufacturers and on Google (Android) too. Apple didn't Flash on their phones and basically killed it off as a mobile application, especially after Google followed suit. Apple didn't want removable batteries and SD expansion. Google goes the same way with its Nexus devices and with each iteration of Android, makes it more difficult for other manufacturers to include SD expansion. And more and more manufacturers are following Apple by sealing in the battery. What set Androi apart from Apple in the early days is vanishing with each new version of the Android OS.

​You make a sweeping statement that external storage doesn't matter, however I need extra storage for music and for videos for my son. I don't have an unlimited data plan or always find myself in great reception areas to use cloud storage. I partly use my phone as an mp3 player in my car and wouldn't want to pay large data bills on my regular 400mile trips to Scotland just so I can listen to my choice of music, when it is more cost effective to buy a 64gb card. Therefore external storage very much matters in my situation. I am sure that your situation is different, however you can't say something doesn't matter and should be a thing of the past just because you don't have any use for it.

It was probably on Android 5.0.2 which was useless, on 5.1.1 it's usable.

BTW I have the Note 4 as well....brilliant phone. Just fancy the look of the G4 as I must admit i did quite like the G2 i had a few years back...

Hello mate. I had the invite for one plus and placed the order. Very next day I cancelled my order for two reasons.
1. There is a metal/plastic ring around the fingerprint sensor. After few weeks, the color starts to come off and it looks horrible. Feels like a cheap phone. Take a look on youtube.
2. Grounding issue. If I'm holding the phone in left hand, home button does not work with the right hand thumb/fingers. Loudspeaker is not great as well.

Can anyone please tell me if the black leather version has gold buttons and camera ring? Or normal black buttons and black camera ring.
Does the leather version comes with just the leather cover or normal grey cover as well?
Thqnks.

It's incredible how fact is overlooked with conspiracy.

Removable battery doesn't matter these days? But batteries wear out and loose performance over time so unless you want to replace your phone every 15-24 months it does matter. Also the speed of internal storage is irrelevant. I have over 60GB of music on an SD card but it's a far cheaper option than buy a phone with 128Gb of internal storage. Both these things are relevant to many people, and this is why the manufacturers are trying to get rid of this option. They want you needing a new phone every few years.

I would advise you buy a leather one since you get the leather back and a metallic gold back for free. It cost £322 from a seller on amazon who offers prime which is great since it can be easily returned if there are any problems : http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B010UJNFQG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1444559712&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=lg+g4+black+leather&dpPl=1&dpID=41YwwxzZroL&ref=plSrch

what happened to the LG G4 £299 deal from Smartfonestore? Can't find it anymore and it was over 600 degrees yesterday

On verge of buying a. S6 edge.....how does this compare?

​You can get a lg g2 with Snapdragon 800 for less than £ 100 brand new, and never laggy or get LG G4 for £280 with better camera, and still a good deal.

Its a great phone and its not a fruit phone

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You can replace a battery in any phone though, so when it does die and you still want to keep the phone it can be replaced. Removable storage I understand the reasoning behind it, but it ruins the overall experience in the OS. If you can live with that for the extra storage fair enough. Being waterproof is a bonus which the Xperia phones have.

​That's fair enough then if that's the case. I just feel burnt big time by the brand and price drop so soon (hence I feel this G4 will drop even further). Plus I have to wait til next september when I'm entitled to an upgrade. I was looking at trying to sell my G3 but the second hand market for it is really poor on price. No upgrade for me next time, sim only and sim free handset.

Glad people are enjoying their G4's after the shambolic G3 :smiley:

​had a note 4 since launch. Excellent phone. good battery life even after a year. Amazing QHD display. Expandable memory and removable battery. Very good camera, IR blaster (comes in handy when someones hogging the remote)

above all has been super reliable. might buy a spare battery because I'm travelling more now.

S pen very useful as well as multi window feature.

Compared displays side by side, note 4 better especially on awkward angles

I had a G3 battery that died on me only the other week that I had to buy a replacement for. I know people who are still using their Samsung S3s from years ago because with a new battery they're still acceptable phones for them. The main reason for swappable batteries though is not for replacement in case for failure but for the instant 'wireless charging' capability that they provide.

When it comes to storage the ability to load a phone with a bunch of HD TV, films and lossless music for time spent travelling is a valuable feature. Taking video in 4k also chews space.

Don't understand how taking away an option is a good thing for you. Enclosing the battery and storage just seems planned obsolescence in the worst possible way. I keep my phones for at least three years and I am a heavy user. After a year I usually find my batteries no longer hold up for more then a few hours. You may like being attached to a wall throughout the day or changing your phone for an incremental increase after a year but doesn't mean others do.

I've got a nexus 5x on order and am thinking about cancelling it for this, what does everyone think?

Because???

Maybe just but then compare the price.

moved my 64GB micro SD from Galaxy S5 to my new G4 in 1 second. How long would it take to copy 64GB of music or photos? your not going to be backing up 4K video abroad in data, if you smash your phone how do you recover data?

Had this phone for a while now unlocked bootloader rooted custom rom

Only issue is the battery and i greenify everything

I am considering buying a zerolemon 8500mh battery which will solve this problem

The removable staorage is great i keep all of my photos and stuff on it

are these same phones as eBay ie made in the same place I have some nectar points so thinking about buying from eBay

​My new S4 purchased in March had a battery which duffed out after 3 months.Had it replaced over the counter at a Samsung service centre.So there!

I got mine from eBay too for 289.99 with a free 16gb sd card and it was the tan leather version. UK seller with DHL delivery. Great phone. I have gone from a note 4 to this and it's just as good. No lag, camera is great.

Having an edge - they should pay you for a deformed product.

Also, what has NAND speed got to do with external storage where you are only using it to store content. Fair enough if you're talking about using SD cards to run apps off which the speed will become a relavence (though not as much as you make out). Think of it as a PC. You have SSD for your OS and apps but HDD for your photos and videos. Same for the phone. speed means nothing for music, videos and photos if you don't have the space.

Don't let the big manufacturers brain wash you into thinking that they taking these things away are a good thing. They are doing this to maximise profits and nothing more. I moved to LG from a Samsung Galaxy S5 after Samsung got greedy and followed the Apple model. Something I (and I thought they did too) absolutely despised!

Totally agree. Also when I am abroad I like to have my 20GB of music with me as well as my Offline navigation maps (currently using 6GB+ of tomtom maps, few good games and videos when internet is not always available. It is very shortsighted to say that external memory is becoming redundant.

I have never had to swap out a duff battery. But what's that got to do with the price of cheese?! In my critical line of work, I need my phone on me at all times and cannot afford to sit next to a wall plug. With the external battery kit, I am able to swap out the battery for fresh ones when I run out. So far, I have had to do this every day. So this feature has saved me (and probably some lives too).

I also have a very small child and like to take lots of videos of her in 4K. The 128Gb memory card has allowed me to store hours and hours of video. Without this, and only with the typical 32gb in most phones, I would have missed a lot of memories that I captured on holiday when we didn't have a computer to download onto or cloud to upload to.

Hope that gives you an insight into how this can benefit people in the real world.

There's two main issues with Edge phones, the sloping screen, means it's awkward to pick up as it has a massively reduced surface area to grip a hold of. There is pixel distortion at the edges of the screen as it slopes away. The other issue (so that's three then) is paying more for fashion, and every man and his dog has one anyway.

External SD card plus removable battery is a MASSIVE plus for this phone.

I highly recommend getting a leather back plus the LG battery kit. Combined makes this the perfect current gen phone! If you're feeling flush, also get the turbo charger. Quick Charge 2.0 on this phone with the turbo charger is awesome :smiley:

new lg g4 on ebay are 300 or less just need to know that if they are the same phones as buying from amazon
i was thinking most if not all phones are made in or assembled in china?
any thoughts please

great price

​i think so. if only @jules888 could confirm that..

​Is that the seller that gives a free SD card with the phone?

Very pleased with my g4 .Great sound on music,great screen,fast internet.Got mine for £288 from Ebay.

+1 no point to spend over £320 to get an Android phone that has similar experience. Unless you really want the edge screen and easy to hack finger print sensor...

I had g3 (32gb 3gb version) and now g4 they are brilliant phones. recommended.

this or note 4?

really good battery life with expandable memory, leather back is a plus for me as i like the look and feel, brilliant camera with great colour accuracy, stability with full manual controls. Superb phone at this price

This.

micro sd slot and removable battery in g4