Why all the arguments about ice v's ev, I have a leaf and commute 46 miles a day which uses 45 to 50% of the battery, I get home and it takes a minute to plug it in to charge, we have solar panels so on a sunny day the recharge cost is minimal so lets say I recharge the battery 3.5 times a week at a cost of £3.00 per 100% charge less lets say 25% allowing for free electric from the solar system which works out at around £7.40 per week in electricity, in my previous diesel car this was costing me £30 a week, plus the leaf is far better for the environment and is a far more relaxing quieter drive with no freezing car to get into on a cold morning with pre heat.
So stop the bickering as it works out fine for some folk and will not work for others

http://www.bristolstreet.co.uk/new-car-deals/renault/zoe/dynamique-intens/186600/renault-zoe-dynamique-intens-5dr-auto/

A solution for anyone looking for a better deal at lower mileage.

£79/m for the car.
£35/m for the battery lease (3000 miles).
£79 deposit.

Advantage is, excess mileage is only 5p per mile, so the price for up to 5k miles is much more realistic. An extra 2k miles would be £100

just ordered one...this site is supposed to save me money now im ordering cars!

​do you mean the 30kw version for that price? if so thats the cheapest i've ever seen one

I had a Zoe for 18 mnths, gave it back 6 mnths early...after 24000 miles, then got a 30k used 16 plate leaf, tekna 3.3, 5200 miles, for 13500£ outright...

..although you could always leave the existing charging point in situ and get a second charginf point added for the Leaf. OLEV grant says you can. Up to you.

Smart move. The the Leaf comes with a Type 1 to Type 2 cable anyway.

For these with a Type 2 tethered charging point, it's possible to buy a Type 1 tethered cable and change over without too much hassle. Don't forget to also buy a Type 1 holster.

The one built in to the car or the wall box? I went for an untethered type 2 socket wall box so I'd just need a lead, which I'd need to use public chargers and my work chargers anyway (I believe the leaf only comes with a granny?). In car I'm still not sure, I may have to spec the 6.6kW charger as 3.3kW just sounds too limited.

What would you do about the charger if you went from a Zoe to a leaf?

Don't disagree that the yeti is a marmite car, although I do like the small kodiaq/Tiguan looks of the new one. Had a look at the leaf but didn't really float my boat although I'm sure it drives great too. For me personally the yeti is worth the extra £50 or so for the added flexibility on the range/better quality? and just to try an ice again. Dipped my toe in the water not really expecting to fall in love with an electric car so completely expect to come back to one in two years time and look forward to having a wider choice to choose from then. Be interested to see what you go for after the leaf.

And both are equally ugly.. I luv my Leaf though!

I don't get it.. with the yeti u will have an £85 fuel bill bringing the total to 260 plus PM.. a Leaf is currently 199£ a mnth plus £20 in fuel cost.. y go for a yeti?

Mine goes back in July and, although I've absolutely loved the car, I couldn't find any deals anywhere close to what I'm paying now i.e. £159/month for 10k miles. Have ended up ordering a skoda yeti for £189/month on a 2yr lease and will hopefully get into the electric market again at that time when hopefully a better selection and better deals may be available.

I would take any Renault related rumour with a bucket of salt quite frankly.

Mine goes in July. Heard a rumour Renault UK are considering improving the PCP deal in April so fingers are firmly crossed as I'd happily have another Zoe and I accept it will cost more than the outstanding deals we got but double the price is too much even with near double the range, especially as the new bigger battery allegedly costs them less to produce than the original one.

Returning mine in June and will be looking for alternative Electrical Vehicles to lease (unless Renault have some spectacular deals going on)

Mine's up in August​. Absolutely sold but won't be keeping. I've tried to return as getting a 3y PCP on leaf at great price, but i have the later battery lease which is not easy to get out of and will have to pay up fully, so I'm keeping it as well as getting leaf.

Yes I paid the remaining three months PCP, the battery rental was written off.

Did you have to pay the remaining 3 months?

Mine went back 3 months early. FVF of over 8k on a car worth around 5k. No thanks RCI.

^^^ this.

As Renault gave us inflated guaranteed final value the only real option is to return. If I want to the same car I can buy an identical one for £2k less than my own. RCI won't budge on price to buy our own cars so they must be happy to just take the hit and auction them. The new one has been undervalued, I guess due to this situation and is nowhere near as attractive on PCP. Currently planning to either buy a battery owned -i model or PCP a Leaf.

Return.

I believe quite a few people from this forum are approaching the end of the pcp contract. May I ask what's your plan? Buy or return?

Well, while I agree with sales people being rather woolly with the facts, I believe the invoice does say what you pay at the end. So in that respect if you buy the car I believe it is true to say the mileage doesn't matter. But I wouldn't expect them to lower that price based on its mileage!

Id say its probably easier to start low, as I can only imagine they would be willing to upgrade you rather than downgrade you. Of course get the facts and make sure you have it in writing what the costs would be based on this approach.

Cheers

Phill

Lie ing about the no charge of extra miles of you hand it back?

I guarantee they won't give you that in writing. Because it's total tripe. Find a dealer who doesn't lie.

Ok. Been into Renault Warrington today. And the price is £159 (Inc battery) for a 2 year deal. On 6000 miles. They said the extra millage cost would only matter if you was handing the car back. Rather then taking a new one on after the two years.

I am considering one of these, but I have a few questions first if someone would kindly answer.

First I have read there are problems with the delayed/times charge, because for some reason you put the charge time in on a server via a computer/app (i.e. economy 7 times) which controls the charging time via a SIM card. I don't get signal here, so does that mean I couldn't time the charges?

Secondly I would be using this for motorway driving fairly regularly. How is it on motorways, and are the rapid charge points normally available at service stations, or is there a queue?

Thanks.

£35 pm electricity. I'm now going to change over to Eco 7 night rate where it is 5.14 p pkwh. So my monthly will go down to 14.5£, if I chsrge only at night 100% of the time!!

I do 1000 miles a mnth, my current elecrricity is 12.8 p pkwh. 1 full charge is 25kwh. For 90 miles. So fo 1miles : 25/90 kwh x1000x12.8p=.

Thanks fro that. Have you worked out the PPM? I'm going to try to find out how much I pay - hopefully my supplier's website will tell me.

I used the figures on the website, which are probably the best available!

I was comparing my current car with is a BMW with a 2.5 straight six - I probably need to compare the running and lease price with a similar sized and performance petrol hatchback.

Typically 90 miles on full charge during summer with average driving get. I've had it a month. Approximately 25kwh per full charge. How much are u paying for electricity?

I found this website - would owners say it is realistic?

http://zoecostcalculator.renault.co.uk/calculator/running_costs

Can anyone share what real-world running costs they are seeing running one of these please?

I guess the only running cost on top of the car and battery lease is electricity. How much ppm is it costing to run?

How many miles on average are you getting from a full charge?

We are about to move house in a couple of weeks and the new place will have a drive so I can now consider one of these. :smiley:

Not quite sure how this works out. Essentially it's not interest, I think of it as you are paying for the depreciation of the value of a new car in this deal.

Doing the sums on the back of a fag packet, the car (nav intense) is £20k + £5k for the battery - £5k PiCG(at least it was when I ordered mine!) and last of all - the deposit which was almost £6k. In this respect, this is what makes the car cheaper. If you buy outright to begin with, you lose the deposit offer of the £6K as this was only on the lease deal.

So in my case, I have a zoe dymanique intens for £150 a month, for 3 years so thats 36x£150 =£5400 and is even less if you take it out the 2 year option, and you get the option to buy the car for just over £8.5k after, making this £16k. Sure I will have to buy the battery but at the moment the only batteries available are brand new at £5k. No one is going to buy them at that price after 3 years! So I reckon you will either get the option to buy the battery, continue to rent it (both probably at a lower rate) or get a better or brand new battery. All after having it for 2/3 years risk free.

I think the PCP works out ever so slightly cheaper on the 3 year, even better on the 2 year leases but with no risk on the £5400 in my case, and less for others. But there are fewer risks for a cheaper price on the PCP which is awesome. With such new tech, I think overall its a great deal.

Cheers

Phill

Agree with Sunni on this. The interest kicks in at the end of the two year period. For my deal, I insisted on an interest free option for 2 years which my dealer agreed (this meant i just paid the finance arrangement fee).

I'm assuming the majority who have gone for this deal have done so viewing it as a two (or three) year option and intend to return the car probably and evaluate their options towards the end of the period (that's certainly the case for me).

The car itself is a joy to drive (considering it's electric), not sure about the others but i'm only getting around 70 (ish) miles on a full charge. The whole electric thing does take a bit of getting use to and you'll need to plan your journeys if you're looking to do some real distance.

It would be considered interest if you were planning on buying the car outright at the end of the 2 years, as you would end up paying more than just buying it straight cash at the beginning. However by just paying a fixed rate per month for a 2 year duration, there is no interest. Just works out as a lease deal really.

http://www.dsg-renault.co.uk/model.php?type=cars&model=zoe

Current prices.

Hi Sunni
Can you please provide some advice on Renault Zoe car? Does it involves any interest payment? How is your experience with the car so far?
Thanks
Matheen

Hi all
I am quite new to this forum and about electric cars. I have been going through this post and am looking to get an electric car with an annual mileage of 12000. What sort of price will I be looking per month? Is it wise to go few Renault to get a quote? Please advise. Thanks in advance.
Matheen

Congrats! Did u setup the R link yoursel? Thought it was meant to b the dealer. Careful u will xed mileage limit pretty quick!!

picked up mine (well, the wife's) on the Saturday and must say, pretty impressed with it. I did initially think we'd use this as a local run around car but i'm going to take it out for a longer road trip.
I've set up the R-Link and registered on the Renault Z.E website (and downloaded the app...which isn't that great).

Will hopefully have the charge point installed on Wednesday and that should be it :sunglasses:

Ha ha! Thnks.

You've bought the wrong model! The Zen is smelly, the intens can see where its going backwards.

I don't think it comes in the dynamiqe on the other model it's actually built into the dash on the left hand side of the rlink screen.

Does anyone know where the air scent diffuser is in the car? It should be on the dash in the dynamiqe intens right?!

Picked up Tuesday and today is Sunday, only done 600 miles so far! That's my 3 weeks quota!! Enjoying every bit. Not bothering with Eco mode now, just enjoy the pure acceleration! Kids love it when I dloor it. 80 miles on Eco mode is doable easily. R wings not Set up yet. I'm already thinking of increasing the mileage limit from 12000 to 15000 annually.. Will see

Also picked up a good deal at Renault Bradford on the Intens, 65 + 55 p/m battery on 3000 miles with September delivery or so they think! Chargemaster to come out and do the home charger installation, anyone had work done by them yet?

@travelsport - What a pain!! Hopefully you've got a charge point nearby and enough to get you there!!
I've gone for the 2 year option.

Got home went out all good. At night plugged in the British Gas chatger and hey presto- it doesn't work! The orange light remains on the charger, turned the key, it's supposed to turn green- NYET!! so no Zoe to work tomorrow. Hope BG doesn't take another 3 wks to come out and check-- darn!!

Renault Bradford.

Where was that from?

I already own a Nissan Leaf. Just bit the bullet and bought a Renault Zoe Dynamique Nav as a second car. I got:
nil deposit, £130 per month inc battery rental. 10500 miles per year. 2 year PCP.

Brilliant! Have u gone for 3 or 2 ur rental? I did 140 miles from Crewe. 2 charges inn the way to top up to 80% each. Took 15 mins each time. Just coz missus wants to go out once I get home, othetwise 1 topup more than enuff!

Congrats Sunni / travelsport :laughing: - looking forward to a first impressions review !!!

I pick mine up on Saturday and my dealer has agreed to give me a 3 pin cable until my charger is installed.

I took the two year battery rental. RCI weren't budging with the contract change. I'd rather pay an extra £10/month than have two years of worry and still be hit with a potential £800 fine in 2 years!

Sunni, Congrats! Me too- am doing the 140 mile drive back home from Crewe to Bedfird. Did u take the 2 or 3 yr battery rental? I still haven't signed it, my deer is more confused than I am!!

Picked mine up today.

Is this offer still going? There's a deposit charge on the website now...

Ordered 12 May, car arrives on 23rd June. Holdcroft renault in Crewe.

Public chargers. And I have a charger at work.

hi, How are you charging it at the moment?

I got mines last week. Done nearly 1000 miles. Stil waiting for charger to be fitted at home.

Excellent deal and worth the wait.

Brilliant, Congrats! I'm not losing hope yet though I have heard nothing!!

Mine confirmed will be at my dealer on Monday 22nd and I can pick it up on 23rd.

Incidentally, just spotted a brand new white Zoe intens parked down the road from me.

...some info sent to me by the dealers (in relation to charging networks)

http://www.ecotricity.co.uk/for-the-road/our-electric-highway

https://www.zap-map.com/live#y=51.22541/x=0.05586/z=8

For longer trips use the Ecotricity site as it covers most of the motorway service stations and they are rapid chargers that will top up a ZOE from flat to 80% in under ½ an hour and they are currently free to use !
To help plan a trip you will find that below 80% an Ecotricity Rapid Charger will charge at the rate of approx. 3% per minute. Beyond 80% it slows to about 1% per minute. So if you are on a long trip it is best to only top up to 80% and then move on.

You can get a card to enable you to use Ecotricity by accessing the above website and they will send you a card for free.

A couple of other networks you may find useful where you can get a card to access their chargepoints. These are mainly free to use but there is a subscription.

http://www.sourceeast.net/

http://www.pluggedinmidlands.co.uk/live-availability/

If for some reason it all goes t**s up - i'll let you know first :smile:

I ordered from Smiths (Renault Dealership in Peterborough). I was told at the time that mine was one of the last few available. I've asked them to hold it for a week and hope i can get my charge unit installed...(not holding my breath) or that Smiths are kind enough to throw in a 3 pin plug as an interim solution.

Folks what's the options for the charging unit?? I'm sure I've seem a unit you can tow? Also the car connecting to renault is this purely to let them know the mileage ?

Don't tell, otherwise he may pinch ur car- or I will!!

This doesn't make sense. I have been given a four month waiting time and i ordered on the 22nd of May.
What on earth is going on!!
What dealer did you order from?

I have it fitted. So maybe I can have ur car? I'm waiting for mine- ordered 12 th may-- sooo not fair!!!

Pick up my Zoe this Friday, ordered on 23rd May.

No charge unit fitted yet but that's another story........:smirk:

As mentioned earlier the 5p a mile excess is for the car, plus 30p per mile excess on the battery.

The car sends data back to Renault. Nothing to stop you doing extra miles but you will pay for them.

whats stopping you from doing more than 3000 miles ? is the battery limited?

Your lucky!
What dealerships did you order from. I placed my order at Slough.
I guess on hand stock may have run out just after the 20th.
Has anyone ordered after the 22nd of May and had an earlier delivery time?

I have collected my Zoe from the dealer today which I ordered on May 12th. The battery rental I have signed shows a figure of £60 for 24 months with 7500 miles. No idea why this is the old price but I have signed it and now have the car sat on the drive :smiley:

I ordered on 20th May and last I heard was 2nd week July. Eon are fitting isolator a week today and ChargeMaster install 16th July. Just got to dig a 10m trench 0.5m deep by then...

I ordered a Zoe on the 22nd of May and i have been told delivery won't be until October! Has anyone else been told the same?

Ordered 12 th May. Car is apparently at Southampton Docks now. BG fitted yesterday. Raring to go!

I ordered on may 11th from evans halshaw Sheffield....expecting to collect on 23rd I think...

Harratts in Wakefield.

Congrats! Ordered same day, haven't hear a pip from my dealer!! Where r u getting getting urs from?

We are collecting our Zoe this afternoon which we ordered on May 12th.

Someone has posted the new battery lease agreements from RCI on SpeakEV, if anyone is interested:

Current Zoe deal, May '15. Battery rental rate, change again.

I've heard of people installing the correct sized cable leaving one end by the consumer unit and one end by a post of the correct height they concreted into the ground in their parking space and finding an OLEV approved installer happy enough to hook it up (but not BG).
But I think you might struggle with this one, if it's not being hooked up to your private home supply it's not really a home install.

Guys,

I ordered the Zoe in May and BG recently contacted me regarding the wall box installation.

Im a homeowner of an apartment flat and have access to private off-street parking facilities (designated secure-gated parking space) We have been told an installation cannot be done as British Gas could only install on a private house with front yard.

But based on the terms and condition (British Gas Home Chargepoint Installation Services for residential customers (OLEV Subsidised))
Point 7- You must have designated private off-street parking facilities suitable for chargepoint installation (we will assess this during our survey). If you are not the legal owner of your home, you must have the owner's permission before we carry out the Installation service. Getting the owner's permission is your responsibility and we cannot accept any legal responsibility if you fail to do so.

Im the home owner and we do have a designated private off-street parking and it is suitable for charge point installation. (A three phase socket has been installed by the developer ready for the wall box installation) As I met all the terms required in the terms and condition, British Gas could not turn down our installation request surely?

Any thoughts on this gents?

Guys,

I ordered the Zoe in May and BG recently contacted me regarding the wall box installation.

Im a homeowner of an apartment flat and have access to private off-street parking facilities (designated secure-gated parking space) We have been told an installation cannot be done as British Gas could only install on a private house with front yard.

But based on the terms and condition (British Gas Home Chargepoint Installation Services for residential customers (OLEV Subsidised))
Point 7- You must have designated private off-street parking facilities suitable for chargepoint installation (we will assess this during our survey). If you are not the legal owner of your home, you must have the owner's permission before we carry out the Installation service. Getting the owner's permission is your responsibility and we cannot accept any legal responsibility if you fail to do so.

Im the home owner and we do have a designated private off-street parking and it is suitable for charge point installation. (A three phase socket has been installed by the developer ready for the wall box installation) As I met all the terms required in the terms and condition, British Gas could not turn down our installation request surely?

Any thoughts on this gents?

Yes they managed to get the 2year pcp but only because RCI accepted that they hadn't given the dealer notice of the change. Seems to be an awful lot of confusion going on!

"Would you believe it is all change again o_O The 2 year PCP is back up and running! Latest deal at http://www.dsg-renault.co.uk/zoe" quoted from speak ev just a few mins ago- by badger black, a DSG dealer I think.

RCI really don't seem to know what they are doing.

Did your dealer manage to keep you on two years PCP in the end?

Agree with Sunni. I was in Renault dealer this morning to sign amended paperwork. apparently I was on 3yr battery deal, despite being told otherwise, and when seeking clarification on early termination charges and asking them to confirm I would not be liable they switched the battery to 2yrs to match the car and offset the increased battery charge by reducing monthly car payment. They had to resubmit to renault finance and had to fight to get the deal as they have were advised the 2yr pcp no longer exists. This apparently changed a couple of days ago but dealers were not advised of the change. Looks like 3yr pcp on car and battery is now the only way to go.

Interesting discussion on SpeakEV. Yes it seems there is a penalty now if you go for 3 years battery lease and cancel at 2 years.

Also, you can no longer get a PCP for 2 years. 3 years minimum.

I ordered in May too before there was any mention of a penalty in the agreement. But this is all salesman talk until someone can confirm it from a new agreement if it exists. Anyone have the text?

Does this apply retrospectively though? I ordered early May. And how come he dealer who spoke to RCI just yesterday says there's no problem? Wonder who in RCI is giving different info to diff people?

Just spoke to my dealer. This is his response "I had the same conversation yesterday with the RCI EV team who told me when you cancel your battery agreement after 2 yrs you will not be charged a penalty"

This has just been posted in the Renault Zoe forum. A warning to anyone signing a three year battery agreement and cancelling at the two year point.

"Be aware.

Today I went to sign all the documents for my car in advance of delivery next week. Like many of you I will be having a 7500 mile PCP and 7500 mile battery lease.

When I signed for the car 4 weeks ago I was told that the battery lease would be on a special offer rate, that being the 3 yr rate of 70 pounds and not the 2 yr rate of 80 pounds per month.

Went to sign today and the price is 80 quid for 24 months not 70. No way to get the 3 yrs rate other than signing a 3 yr lease.

I asked that if I took a 3yr lease and then at 1 yr 11 months gave notice to terminate was that allowed? Yes I could was the answer. At what specific financial penalty I asked? They called RCI to get a definitive answer.

RCI confirmed that yes I could terminate a 3 yr deal at the 2 yr point but that an early termination penalty of over 800 pounds would then be payable!

So I am signing up for the 2 yr lease at 80 quid……….. My dealer is ”sorting something out” regarding the extra 10 pounds per month I am having to pay.

Just thought I should forewarn others who may find themselves in this situation"

I've just placed deposit on a dynamic nav. Getting metallic black with 17"alloys and delivery pack all for...
£79 deposit
£64 pm for the car
£87 battery, 2yr lease, 9000 miles

So total payment of £151 pm including all extras on a straight two year deal to avoid any possible battery cancelation charges that are looming on the horizon

Just spoke to evans halshaw today mines due for collection on 23rd :smiley:

lifestyle renault tunbridge wells

Just had a call to say mine has arrived at dealership so ready to collect Friday :-)

Thanks. The whole process is turning out a complete mess and it's going to get even worse as more EV Deals go through. Lots of people are going to go private---

Some info that might (or might not) be useful to others.
ChargeMaster provide the charge point (and 3 year warranty) to BG who are contracted to fit them. BG have been inundated with orders recently and are looking at lead times between 8-12 weeks in some cases so have asked ChargeMaster to help them out and get their contractors to do the fit.

The Isolation Switch is a requirement stipulated only by Renault (other manufacturers apparently do not need one fitted). The isolation switch sits between the electric meter and the consumer unit (fuse board) and although ChargeMaster could in theory fit the isolation switch, it would mean having to tamper with the electric meter which they refuse to do (criminal offence or something.....).

The quickest way round it is to contact your energy supplier and find out if they would agree if you were to get a qualified electrician to fit the isolation switch which means you could expedite the process.

In my case, my energy provider has a lead time of 21 days before they send the job to their contractors who are more than likely to have a similar sort of lead time.....this could mean 6-8 weeks before i get my charge point, so for me it makes sense to get it done privately.

Wow! Great deal. Take away wheels and metallic, u probably paid £30 less?! Where did u get this? Super!

Counting down the weeks! Got a copy of order now so just need ChargeMaster to get their act together.

Yes- arriving in 2 weeks, and no- BG have not yet fitted my charger!

Anyone else eagerly counting down the days to delivery?

The only good thing about Renault going over to chargemaster is that BG installs already booked may happen faster- or so I say to cheer myself up! Do chargemaster delay so much even if it's paid for privately or is it only because its a Renault order? If so this delay may save Renault some money--

Don't DSG have a Rep here? Isn't he being helpful? He appeared quite helpful when trying to get us good deals to buy the Zoe?

I'm dealing with Gary Taylor from ChargeMaster - the earliest date they've been able to give me is 1st July - (the Zoe should be in later this week or early next). I need to get an Isolator Switch fitted though and it looks like that won't be done till the end of this month so the chances are i'll have a car but no charge point at home.

Has anyone else's charger installation passed on to ChargeMaster? We have been contacted today saying the earliest they can install is on the 21st of July! What a joke!

Has anyone as yet had any confrimed finance figures on the updated Dynamique Nav Model, I have been told that Renault are still unbale to quote. But lots of people are still getting quotes, are these quotes based on the current outgoing model? if so are the dealer honouring the deal if the residual value drops on the new Models ?

Martyn, the 2 year battery rental was all covered earlier in the thread, if your going to buy a Zoe I would suggest reading it. My local dealer tried the same trick and even started arguing with me about it, telling me they would be audited by Renault and "done" for fraud..... I placed my order with DSG and the service has been excellent. Funnily enough my local dealer suddenly changed his mind about the battery rental and decided he could offer a better PCP after I told them I had placed order with DSG. I had great pleasure in telling them to stick it !
Just give DSG a ring and order the car with a dealer that knows what they are talking about....

Have people read the terms for the battery rental?

They quote you for 24 months @ £70, but the agreement actually states 36 months. When I questioned this they (DSG) said you could terminate at 24 months and not receive a termination charge.

My local Reneult dealer (Leicester) said this is not correct, and that you will inccur a termination charge. It should be £80 a month for a 24 month battery lease.

They have said the best they can do is £80 a month battery and £69 a month for the car. That's is for 24 months with 5,000 miles per year.

Can anyone shed some light on this? Or know if what DSG say is legit?

Hi Sunni,
Just looking at your post for the Wall Charger fitted for the Zoe, i noticed they fitted the isolation switch for you whereas i've been asked to get my electricity provider to fit an isolation switch first.

Do you happen to have your electric supplied by BG?

Deals are still out there. You've just got to ask. I've had some good offers over CarWow after a bit of negotiation.

Keep an eye on drivethedeal and carwow and dsg im sure soon enough the crazy deals will return on these sites

You lucky boy (in my opinion), they offered me - 75 deposit, 75 per month plus 80 per month for battery.

Nissan Leaf are now offering £250 deposit plus 220£ per mnth for 12000 miles. Accenta 6.6. For those interested!! Ofcourse add £300 for the BG charger, renault install this free-- my zoe deal was 148.50 pm for the above but they have increased rental since May now--

I got £75 deposit and £75 a month on car then £50 battery rental on 7,500 miles so £125 a month on a 2yr pcp deal aka hand it back after 2yr or pay £8000 to keep it, battery rental is for the life of the car hence ill be handing it back.
There were deals on drive the deal for £125 deposit and £24 a month on new models the other day however battery is on top at £70 a month now but still cheaper than my deal, estimated delivery on all orders placed around now are september, please bear this in mind.
My cars due around 16th june and i dealt with ashley bennett at evans halshaw in sheffield

I ordered my zoe 11/05/15 via evans halshaw sheffield....delivery date 16-19th june wah wah wah i want my car haha

Has anyone had finance figures on new Dynamique Nav models. Local dealer are saying they are unabel to quote as yet. Haev a freind looking to order .

Nobody is able to get quotes yet, hence the hold-up on the Drive The Deal thread. RCI are taking their sweet time.

re the isolator switch, is this a separate switch or is an individual rcd sufficient?

My wife works for British gas (different department admittedly) but she called yesterday and complained as they said they hadn't had the paperwork (which they had) said she worked for the company and voila there magically appeared a fitting date within the week. You need to make sure you have an isolator switch at your meter otherwise they won't touch it, but other than that the fittings should be fine.

Excellent! Don't hold your breath. BG may be coming for a survey and may give u another appointment in 3 weeks-to sort it- if u can't fix it this visit. Keep fingers xed. I'm waiting for my second appointment - under no illusion..

Just been to sign our paperwork, Collect on 6th June ordered 15th of may. White and from harratts wakefield also. Electric point getting fitted Thursday next week. Wifes excited.

Dealer is Harratt's Renault at Wakefield. I didn't ask but would assume Grimsby.

I got call from dealership to say not arrived this week :-) Been told next week but no confirmed date yet. Guess could be similar to your date lju. Out of interest what docks and where is your dealer?

White, but all colours were same delivery timescale. Dealer phoned this morning to provide me with registration number to sort insurance and needed a signature to get it taxed.

Charge point fitted this morning, Zoe at the docks and at the dealer on the 5th June. Ordered on the 12th May.

Spoke to DSG today and got an expected delivery date 2nd week of July. Still no email from BG but at least I have a car ordered. This backs up the extended delivery window story too so if anyone else was told there were none left try again as there seem to be cars available now.

If it's a new zoe u bought just ask ur dealer. Usually BG contact u within a week. It's all automated---

Almo, british gas should cost u nothing, if it's a new Zoe u bought? Renault orders everything. We're u asked to pay anything?

Ordered one from Shelbourne Motors (Portadown, NI) on Friday. There are still a few of the original stock left but none suited me, and as of Thursday, Renault are doing the deal on 'new builds', so I ordered a Glacier White Dynamic Intens. Took the delivery pack (£45) so deposit of £345 and 24 x £141. This is for 7500 miles battery and PCP, but the battery lease for 3 years. It was ordered Friday morning so there was nothing to go on re: delivery dates after, I imagine, quite a backlog, so 31st August was put down as a worst case.

British Gas sent a contractor to check and price my job, he wants £700 including vat extra as I require 20 extra metres of cable and clips? Can any one advise or point me to a company who operate in NI? That might be a cheaper option?

Is anyone having to pay for british Gas to fit the charger?

Not got much faith in BG so far. Completed online form and uploaded copy of my order form. Got an email 3 days later saying they had tried to contact me (no missed calls or voicemail on my phone though!) and asking me to provide the details if I wanted to proceed. Hmmm can see me having car in 2 weeks and no charge point.

Ordered 15th May, due into dealership 27th May and hoping to collect 29th. No call from BG yet despite emailing documents to them. Already have charging point for other car....

Sooner than i was expecting, ive not heard anything yet....was told 4-5weeks is the average when buying from sheffield evans halshaw though .... P.s. Ive not seen a zoe in my local town so for a while i could be the only one yay....regarding british gas, i already had a point so i didnt need to wait on them, but when it was installed it went smoothly, new rcd in fuse box 32a and a wire to the charge point which was literally 18" away

11th may, completed order form. Dealer told me mod June. Order form says end June. No hurry, British Gas person mucked up so no charger yet anyways? Did u all have s smooth installation?

Just wondering if anyone ordered around the same time as me what their delivery time is roughly? I ordered on 11th may

I order on the 12th and have been told my delivery is the 3rd of June.

Yeah. It's £60.

Cheap as dealer services go, but I can't imagine they actually do a lot for that. They charge (IIRC) £70 labour to replace the 12V car battery, so that should give you an idea as to how much work they're likely to do for £60. It's probably just a quick diagnostics check to make sure everything is working as intended.

I guess that's one downside of EVs - you have little choice but to go to the dealer and get bled dry.

Do I need to factor the cost of a service in on 12 months?

I hope it is true they have extended the deal as I seems ridiculous to me that in a difficult new electric car market they have people queuing up to buy and being turned away. These sales are the only way to push the expansion of the charger network and improve the appeal of this type of transport. I'm still waiting for an email regarding delivery date. I'm guessing now there isn't actually a car for me again but there may be one available later than June which I would now be 'allowed' to buy!

Renault, shut up and take my money dammit!!!

Thanks Phil, just curious, when did u get this deal? The deposit seems a lot? Arno Cl are doing the same deal for 12000 miles for £80 deposit now...?

Just spent 4 hours reading all the posts on this thread.
Really confused with all the different prices and deals and availability. Anyone kind enough to tell me what the best deal I could expect now for 5-6000 miles a year and who to buy from possibly someone local to london, would be really appreciated.

Hi guys

Been looking into this and ended up being a bit shafted by the fact I was told the deal would be extended for select customers so paid a deposit of £500 there and then to Watford Renault. Based on 9000 miles I was quoted £599 deposit + £172 a month for 3 years pcp.

I also visited Renault Bedford at the weekend who then contacted me the next day and after a bit of pressure sales said they could get £740 off the car reducing the payment to £165. In a bit of a rock and a hard place negotiated with Watford who as you can imagine were very reluctant to refund the deposit, but they matched it. I had decided that it would only be fair to give the business to Bedford as they came in with the best price, but as Watford matched it, this would save me a whole bunch of hassle.

Phoned Bedford back to be fair and say Im sorry but im sticking with them and got another new price of £157!! I had to say I needed to know that price earlier as I cant keep doing this toing and froing. After being made to feel quite bad I ended the conversation. I was at work so these calls are somewhat difficult to take if its busy.

Later on I got another call from them and I ended up having to block their number. However, they said they would be able to do the car on 9000 miles pcp +£599 deposit for £139 a month on a two year lease!

Pretty gutted to say the least but I have been in this position before where you just have to accept the price you have paid and be happy with it. Even at £165 a month this is still a saving on my fuel bill a month and I have £10k paid towards a car that's worth £20k.

So lesson learned for me, the pressure sales of must get in quick doesn't necessarily always ring true, though I was in the same position with my Solar PV panels trying to get in before the government pulled the highest rate of payment for the panels and moving quickly on that means I now get close to 50p per KWH produced where as some others will soon be getting close to 12p I am told.

This deal has been extended till the end of September for the car to be produced imported and registered by the 30th of September for orders place before 30th June (for the Renault contribution of £5845).

Apparently depending on what literature you have you may see there are 3 models of Zoe available You have the bottom of the range but still decently specc'd Expression, the dymanique zen and the dymanique intens. This is going to be changed and they are dropping the zen and only having two models. The old model used to be able to take the 43kwh rapid charge meaning the quick charging time was 1/2hr. The difference with all new models is that the maximum it can take is 22kwh making the "quick" charge time now 1 hour. That said you get a smaller and more efficient electric motor named the R240 which gives a larger range, plus apparently the home charge time is improved by a kilometer a minute over the old model.(Its worth bearing in mind that I would take the given range with a pinch of salt as this is never real world driving. I have a Mitsubishi outlander PHEV and this is quoted at 31 miles, the best I have achieved is 27 miles)

Since my order states this contribution plus the government PiGD of £5000 the cost price of the car was £19393 + £595 delivery, £55 first registration fee, £495 for the Metalic paint and £45 for the standard delivery pack (whatever the f*&k that is!!) I will end up with finance totaling £8644.33. Not forgetting the free EV charging point which I just paid £299 for on the outlander, it goes to show what a cracking little deal this is.

Anyway hope this little story helps some of you out there looking to get one and worried you might be missing a bargain. I still believe you have some time. If you cant find one dealer to do you the deal, try and find a smaller one to better the price and dont take their 1st or 2nd offer!!!

Cheers

Phill

Had you paid a deposit before your order was cancelled?

Martins winchester

I've been told by a local dealer Renault have extended the registration date clause to enable them to make more cars available, June sign up is still applicable for ordering. Those that have been told no cars are available check again with the dealer.

I've order a Neptune grey one taking delivery in June, I got it for £173 a month and £79 deposit, for 2 years it's 10000 miles a year. Really delighted and can't wait. Having taken a 2 day test drive it was really great to drive and the network of charges in Belfast is great.

Just had a quote from Renault Retail in Swansea.
3 Year PCP
£1500 deposit (!!)
36x£80 for the car
36x£70 for the battery (10k miles)
£150/mo.

Just have to see what they can do about that deposit!

Hi, within Scotland there is funding available through EST (Energy Savings Trust) as long as the charge point is publicly available. If you pm me I can give you the information.

Hi kilmac
You mention that you place of work has installed a charger (fully funded) are you saying that there is a grant available for buisnesses to istall chargers for free? If so please could you give more details on this particular point.

Sorry 148.50

99£ acceptance fee

147.50£ for 12000 miles, no deposit, white ofcourse!

What's the best deal people have got on 10k or 12k miles per year?

Just got one from DSG. Neptune Grey £153.50 all in, 7500miles. I'm a happy bunny (again)now!

I ordered from doncaster yesterday and was told they had 3. Fingers crossed.

If they have taken a deposit you should be ok. I was warned this could happen when I signed and they only completed the order not the finance side.

I was told the same, showroom car from Manchester but since confirmed it has been promised to someone else. Please, please let me know if the metallic one comes up as I really want one! Anyone else know of any available? MOD EDIT: Personal info removed.

Please do not post personal contact info in the public and open forum.

Thank you

Bobby2dazler what deal did u manage from DSG, assume it's metallic since they ran out of white?

They told me straight away Saturday, apparantly they were showing available earlier in day but when they went to reserve at around 5.00pm they had all been sold.

At what stage can they say a car is unavailable? They took a deposit, ordered the car and BG will come this Friday to install. Now can they say " sorry it's out of stock"? I wonder...

Has everyone who has bought one of these had it confirmed there is a car available? I signed on Saturday and got a call today to say there are no cars available so I can't have one. Gutted.

Its only £5060 deposit contribution from Renault and that deal is available anywhere

Cracking deal... a perfect second car and introduction to EV's. I've ordered one and arrives in a fortnight :smiley: The service from DSG is the best of any car dealership I've ever dealt with - they can't help you enough and this car actually pays for itself with what they gave me for my old car.

Test driven Zoe, liked it, Nissan Leaf runs 4 day extended test drive to compare, just booked it in.

hi...with regards to insurance I found its best to ring. My existing company (hastings) quoted £693 !!!! electric car insure quoated £250, and admiral came in at £170. With admiral, just add the cost of the car plus battery and insure it in 1 lot. (around £27k) electric car insure said the premium includes battery insurance.

hope this helps....

I'm going for standard insurance policy through KwikFit, told them about battery lease that needs to be covered.
Then for belt and braces...£10k gap insurance through the company recommended on the auto-trader site.

ref: Insurance.
Could someone help with regards insurance - Do you insure the car for the 25k odd (inc. Lease of Battery) or the amount of the credit e.g 10k - sorry for the dumb question? never bough a new car / finance. So very tentative.

kindest regards

battery is 30p a mile!!!
car is 5p

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They're all pretty high on the battery excess mileage. Think the standard is over £4!!!

What excess mileage charge do you have to pay on the car and battery?

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Haggled between renault Birmingham and Crew. Didn't take much to be honest.

I have just arranged for economy 7 meter to be fitted as well, takes overnight electricity charge down to 7p KWH.

Had my wall-box fitted. Took 3.5 hours. He fitted a isolator switch too.

Only basic white from Renault in Crew. You can always pay the extra £500 for whatever colour you want

Just ordered mine direct from renault.
£200 deposit £45 for the car over 24 months £70 for the battery based on 5000 miles PA I'm happy with that

That is a direct lift from my offer. £70 per month for 7500PA on the battery.

I went for three years as its another year where I don't need to worry about a deposit for a new car, plus it's a better time span for improvements in range to appear in the market. (I'm hoping for an electric Mini in the not so distant).

Yep, the deposit is for the paint....but if I am going to drive it for three years, I might as well have a nice looking one.

I signed yesterday with Sutton Park motors.


Zoe Dynamique Intens in Diamond Black

Customer Deposit: £669
36 PCP Payments of : £87.15
36 Month Battery Hire : £70
Total Monthly Payments: £157.15
Yearly mileage (Both Battery and PCP): 7500
Optional final Payment: £6783.10

I wouldn't worry, nothing good announced for this year or next. Nothing will be close to this price point anyway.
Doubtful that we will have a UK version of the chevrolet bolt or tesla 3 released in 2017. Might have a new Nissan leaf by then but it'll probably be closer to 250pcm at launch. BMW might do something but you'll be looking at 500pcm like the i3.
These will likely be 200 mile range vehicles so real world less than twice the range of the zoe.
Plug in hybrids don't look great either, all have too little real world range. If we get a new Vauxhall Ampera it might be alright but that'll be 300-400pcm if we're lucky.

The car world doesn't move as quickly as the tech world, even electric ones!

Having my wall box fitted right now.

However with the leaps and bounds of technology you wouldn't want to buy one of these with an 80 mile range when in two years it will likely be three times that

Isn't that the point, your only get the PCP for two years !

It's a good point about the "normal" plug to charge up over nine hours. If you're thinking about visiting friends or family over 30 miles away who have a driveway (so that you wouldn't need to trail a cable over the pavement and risk a law suite if someone trips over it), then this could make the difference.

I've read enough of this thread to have pretty much made up my mind to go for this if I can get 150 quid a month but I will certainly demand the three-point plug be included (450 quid is ridiculous).

I promised myself I'd go electric when it became affordable but never thought about this leasing option. However with the leaps and bounds of technology you wouldn't want to buy one of these with an 80 mile range when in two years it will likely be three times that.

They offered me 3 pin adopter for £450

Hi Andy

Who do you insure with. I am very interested but getting ridiculous quotes. Any pointers appreciated

Going to Renault Watford for a test drive tomorrow. Seems a no brainer for anyone like me with a 40 mile round trip commute. Total monthly cost the same as fuel, tax and mot!
Also, Orangewheels are quoting an OTR price of £18,686 whichi is £1358 less than the official OTR £20,044 and £762 less than DSG OTR £19,448. Not quite sure how this would be calculated if honoured, i.e. taken off the monthly payments or off the option to purchase cost, but will ask and post response tomorrow.

Hi, I've just confirmed order for the Arctic White iD paint on 2 years 9000 miles for £83 a month PCP with £179 deposit. They were offering same car on 7500 miles for £79 month and same deposit.

All the white ones appear to be sold so stuck with Metalic which costs extra.
Give DSG a ring and squeeeze them and they "should" do you a decent deal.

Booked ours from Bristol Street Bradford in metallic white this morning! Old Getz in Part-Ex brought monthly PCP to £132!

Signed up for 2yr deal for 10,000 miles pa and black metallic for £160/month (£75 deposit) at Evans halshaw edinburgh.

I'm gonna have a ring round on Monday, see what the best available offer (and trade-in) I can get is. The current car isn't filling me with confidence at the moment - input shaft bearings are on their way out, clutch is slipping and there's a squeaking noise that happens sometimes and goes away when I push the break pedal :/

I just made my deal. Metallic black. 7500 miles battery and PCP for 155 with 100 deposit.

Bristol Street Derby.

Any advice on gap insurance?
Thanks

Watched this thread with interest. I got a 2 year pop deal with Evans Halshaw. No deposit, £75 per month for the car and £35 for the battery for 3000 miles. Ordered a white non metallic but they rang the following day and said there wasn't any of them so they offered black metallic for no more money per month.

I settled on 85 p/m no deposit to use a more local dealership and no doubts over battery rental mileage. Seemed reasonable for 2yr, 7500, metallic....

Also re the battery. I was told that under this 2 yr deal Renault were offering the battery on a 2 yr lease but at the cheaper 3 yr lease rates. My deal was for 7000 miles PCP and the 7500 miles battery cost was 70 quid

getting confused now lol

who has the best zoe deal right now?

2 year pcp

Still no reply, however someone else has been given the same deal as myself from the same dealership / salesman so im guessing everything is right :-/ I guess ill find out when I sign for the car in around 2-6weeks - it was Ashley Bennett who dealt with my purchase

Well if im told its £70 p/m battery ill ask for my deposit back as I will have been mis-sold the deal as the brochure put in front of me was clearly stating £50 for 7,500 miles, and the total p/m was £125 anything more and ill be walking away.
I'm going to email the salesman now regarding this and ill post on here what the reply is

thanks will do!

@Sunni, thanks for that. Have my test drive tommrow, and then will place my order aswell.

@willyloca Suugest you excerice your right and cancel you agreement. Just spoke to Renault Finance electrics team and you can get the battery on a 3 year lease and cancel in 2 years if handing back the car. No early termination charges. Anyone whose got a 2 year battery lease cancel. Raised this issue with head office and all the dealerships not understanding the finer details.

Thanks. Do you have a link to the present version?

Thanks....looked more closely...And yes I couldn't see the rear doors before!

Do they do this in 5Dr? Couldn't see anything about it....

This is a very old agreement you are looking at, judging by the title of the document (Microsoft Word - Regulated Hire Agreement Battery epos 170412 T & C's.DOC) I would say it is over 3 years old. The terms and conditions on the battery rentals at the moment are different. The main clause in the new one is

Daft question, if you were to fully charge the zoe, unplug the charger and not use the car for a day or so, would the car be at full charge still? Or would it lose a bit of power?

The zoe is 5 door

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I have had three emails from British gas to arrange the charger. The website will not allow me to login so I have phoned them. They said the system is corrupt and to ignore the emails!

Had a test drive today. Really like the car. Called DSG to confirm info. Was quoted £100 delivery seemed reasonable. Then got local dealer to match. Saving the delivery. Includes the metallic paint at no cost as advertised on DSG. Just need to order it and hope all goes well esp the install of the charging point.....

Just had my email from british gas, so for anyone wondering they contact you after the sale is confirmed :smiley: unfortunately i already have a charging unit on my house and they wont upgrade it for a faster one :disappointed: boooo roll on getting the car in 4weeks ish

Ive got this deal from ashley too but at 7500 miles a year, get your upgraded...just incase :smiley: p.s. Shouldnt cost anymore either :smiley:

It's not very clear but it seems like returning the car under clause 17.3 carries no penalties and is not at Renault's discretion. So as long as you specify the relevant clause when handing the car back at the end of the two year term I don't see how they can charge you.

15. Your Early Termination
Subject to the provisions of this paragraph, we may at our discretion allow you to terminate the hiring at any time by returning the Battery and Vehicle to an authorised dealer. Our agreement to your early termination shall be conditional upon you being up to date with payments due to us and the following:
15.1 (i) Early Termination after 12 months from Commencement Date
Payment to us of the difference, if any, between (i) the sum of the Rentals due from you to us up to the date the Battery and Vehicle are returned and (ii) the sum of the Rentals that would have been charged had the actual period of hire and mileage up to the date the Battery and Vehicle are returned been known at the Commencement Date, calculated with reference to the Battery Hire Pricing Matrix. A copy of the Battery Hire Pricing Matrix is included in the Renault Vehicle Price Guide and is available on request.

15.2 Excess Mileage shall be charged in addition to the calculation in 15.1 (ii) as set out in the Hire Agreement.
15.3 In addition to the sums calculated in clauses 15.1(i) and 15.1(ii) above, you will pay to us an administration fee of £65 plus VAT.


Sounds like you'd be £65+VAT better off taking the two year battery lease, with those taking the three year lease and ending early in for a bill when they hand the car back.

I think you may well be right - check out clause 17.3 of this http://myrenaultzoe.com/Docs/BatteryHireLeaseAgreement.pdf

Just signed the paperwork @ Renault West London.

Showed them the deal originally from DSG. £0 deposit - £69 pm for the car (5000 miles) and £70 pm for battery (7500 miles)

They counter offered explaining the battery £70 pm (7500 miles) is only valid on a 3 year lease so it will be another £10 for a 2 year lease.

So total we paid is £69 for car (5000 miles -6p excess) and £80 battery (7500 miles 7.5p excess) - 2 years lease. Works out to be £149 pm with no deposit.

As requested by me, they also rang up to enquire about the possibility to cancel the battery lease after 18 months for a 3 year lease. The answer is a there will be a penalty where you will have to pay the remaining of the monthly fee, so better off paying the £10 a month and go for the 2 year lease.

Maybe not the best deal we have got, but we still think it is reasonable to drive a brand new car for 2 years.

This is the same guy, and the brochure he shown you stated £50 7500miles im guessing like myself? Anyways ive emailed evans halshaw and still awaiting a reply

Hey Sunni, can you let me know where you had ordered the vehicle from. Wanted to do the same quickly.

More likely they have made a mistake if my past dealings with them are anything to go by!

Seems like Evans Halshaw are maybe absorbing the cost themselves? Maybe they've negotiated a deal with RCI for a discount on excess mileage if paid in advance? I can't see them stomaching the full £1500 in excess mileage costs.

I give up working it out then :smiley: As you have it in writing you're safe and if they've mucked up its them that will be paying.

Had they originally quoted you before the 4th May as that might explain it?

yes thanks,.... from £45 per month, based on 750 miles per calendar quarter, excess mileage 30p per mile including VAT...... But I will be paying £50 based on 6k per year..

here is the deal from dealer
I have attached an example offer, please note this example is based on 6000 miles per year which you are of course welcome to change
Representative Finance Example: Retail Price£20,043.33 Finance Deposit Contribution£5,970.11 Price after Finance Deposit Contribution £14,083.22 Government Grant£4,698.12 Total Retail Price (after grant and deposit contribution)
£9,375.10 Customer Deposit £75.00 Total Amount of Credi £9,300.10 24 Monthly Payments of £75.00 Term 25months Credit Arrangement Fee£99.00 Option to Purchase Payment (GMFV) £8,069.55 Option to Purchase Fee
£149.00 Rate of Interest (Fixed)3.19%"Total Amount Payable£10,117.55 Mandatory Battery Hire Rental**£50.00 Total Monthly Payment£125.00Representative 4.60% APR

Not something you can do as you need the customer details

Speaking to RCI there is no such thing as a 6,000 mile battery lease. Your choice is 3K miles, 7.5K miles or above.

The battery lease and pricing is not set by the dealer or Renault UK, it is set by RCI and is fixed. If they say you have a 6K mile battery lease at £50 per month and you purchased the Zoe in May (obviously if you purchased it in April all bets are off as that was the price in April, but even then there was not a 6K mile battery lease! It was £50 for 7.5K miles) then I would want to see the agreement as RCI have categorically said to me that this is not possible,

Either Evans Halsham know something that no other dealer knows, they've sold you a Zoe i on PCP, or they're mistaken and you're going to get hit by a hefty charge at the end. It would be sensible to take precautions against that last outcome. Check the Renault site - the cheapest battery options are 750 miles per quarter for £45/m or 7500 miles per annum for £70/m. There is no option to lease a battery from Renault for 6000 miles per annum - such a rental would fall under 7500 miles.

Check your contract. If it's not explicitly stated in there that the battery rental is 6000 miles per year for £50/m then get it in writing, signed. Otherwise the manager might have amnesia when you come to hand it back in two years and there's a £900+ bill for excess mileage.

That's the same guy who sold the battery lease to @bencompston at that price. Guess he's the guy to speak to, assuming it works out well for you guys.

What it looks like that you have is a 6000 mile per annum PCP and then the 3k battery lease. Any miles you do over 750 each quarter will cost you 30p per mile.

Evans Halshaw Renault Sheffield, sales guy called Ashley. ( i think he is out till friday) ph 0114 2515100. They have other colours avail.

Signed on Sunday 10th May, got an email from them Monday asking to fill in some details online, but the site wasn't accepting the information. Gave them a call yesterday, today they emailed me again asking me to email them the order form. They phoned up later and gave me the date for next monday.

My wall-box fitting has been confirmed for next week.

I just signed up this morning with city motors in Bristol. White non metallic, £65 pcp, £70 battery, 7500 miles. Took some haggling but we got there in the end. Delivery is about 4 weeks

Just had a test drive, very smooth! I've been quoted £161 - car and battery (3000 miles) over 2 years. They added extras on, which may be worth haggling. I have to say I was impressed, so silent and couldn't half move!

I did think that it was more than it should be, so nothing signed as yet!

That seems expensive. DSG are quoting £79/m plus £45/m for the battery (750 miles per quarter) and £79 deposit.

Also, 3000 miles? Battery lease only goes down to 750 a quarter and taking the PCP below 5k wont usually save you money. It would be sensible to take 3500 minimum.

TBH I'm willing to bet the dealer made a mistake and he's got a 2 year 750 mile per quarter battery lease. Renault are making this so complicated that even their dealers are struggling to work out what's going on. They're starting to catch on, but mistakes are still being made.

£70 + £70 is the best price I've managed to get (with metallic paint). Nobody wants to budge any further on the PCP, and everyone says the battery prices are set by Renault and are non-negotiable. travelsport seems to be the only one who's managed to bring the PCP below £70.

Need to sort out my trade-in. Depending on price I may or may not go for this. Fancy a change of car, it just depends how much I get for my existing one.

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I would also like to know this? You sure the battery allowance is 6000 miles as it's usually the car.

just secured one 24 month @ £75 + £50 battery = £125pm for 6,000 miles per year
(white non metallic, dark interior) delivery abt mid/end june.

Charles Hurst Belfast did us a deal of £145 per month for 24 months. No deposit, metallic paint and 6000 miles a year. According to the sales man there were only 100 cars left after 2 days from the initial 200 being delivered to the uk this week.

Make sure you tell your insurance that you need the battery covered in the policy as well. In our case they took the rrp for the car of £20k and added £7300 for the battery and based the quote on that. With admiral it worked out at £240 for me FC and wife as a named driver. Very reasonable.

No actually I gave him
The best figure I got- 166£ and he came up with 148.50, only when I saw the secci( finance document) did I know how he had split it-

I corrected my mistake in the next post but no one read the correction! 55.5 car plus 93 rental which is standard. I now see what Sunnis dealer meant!! There is no way u can haggle on battery AFAIK

Renault Leicester have said £100 + 70 battery lease and 144 deposit.
For 7500 miles
Pretty expensive site tbh. Anyone in the Midlands had any luck with better prices thanks

So according to Sunnis dealer it doesn't matter that I have agreed to a battery hire at 93£ paid a deposit and got the quotation documents-- when I go to actually sign the documents they will say - actually the battery hire is £500. Is he serious?! He is fibbing just like my local dealer who said " it's inpossible, that price cannot be done"? Then changed to"I don't know how they did it" once they saw the actual quotation--

If the dealer has quoted you a battery rental and set you up on the system then I would hope the price will stay the same. The only issue you might have is if the dealer just quoted the price and then never setup the battery agreement with RCI but you would hope again they would sort this!

Cheapest deal I have found is the DSG one now they've amended it to include metallic at £79pm with £79 deposit.

BTW, The battery lease is unchanged from renault website- it's £93 pm for 12000 miles for 3 yrs. I did not haggle about that- it can't be changed by the dealer--

For 7000 miles a year 72. quid monthly PCP plus 70 quid battery lease. 142.08 total with no deposit to pay. I suspect that within hours all cars available under this deal will have been sold

My dealer did mention the battery lease agreement can't be signed till closer to the delivery date of the vehicle. bencompston and travepsport may find the prices have gone up when the car gets delivered. As mentioned already, the battery lease prices can't be lowered. You may be able to haggle on the deposit and PCP, but the battery rate is fixed from RCI.

That's odd though, because we now have two posters (bencompston and travelsport) saying that they've haggled the battery lease down.

The £50 battery rental is the 3000 mile one with a 30ppm excess (measured quarterly). The 7500 miles battery rental is £70pm with a 7.5p excess (measured annually). The only way to get the 7500 mile battery rental at £50 was to have signed the order (or done the quote) in April as the rates increased on May 1st.

It is entirely possible to be on a 7500 miles PCP but a 3000 mile battery lease - stupid but possible.

Ok everyone i have my paperwork with me now
Evans halshaw sheffield
£75 p/m on a 2yr pcp and in their handbook its £50 p/m for 7500miles p/a
Car price after discounts...£9375.10 inc vat minus £75 deposit total to finance
£9300.10
Please note this is for a brand new one and non metallic.
Cost per month £125 inc battery...finance been accepted this morning....cars due by end June
Member of staff...ashley bennett
Ps i already have a charge point but was offered one included in the price

No cancellation fees for battery, as mentioned by others as well in previous posts.

I signed up for a zoe today-12000 miles per yr deal. 55.5+93 battery rental( which has to be 3 yrs and cancelled after 2). Cudnt see any better deals for 12000 miles..delivery expected mid June.

Yes 5550 plus 93 battery.

55.5£ battery, £93 rental, 99 fees, no deposit, 12000 miles. 24 mnths. Glacier white- which have all now gone, u only get metallic now(add495£ to above). Seems good. Best on leaf I cud get was equivalent of 250£ pm on the Tekna with no wall charger ofcourse( although the brick charger is free- £500 for the zoe granny cable).

how do you fit all those batteries into a city's car?

The dealer should be able to show you one, this the text from my agreement

EV_Will, are the battery lease agreements online anywhere? I haven't been a copy yet, and trying to find solid proof of the 18 months-no penalty-termination clause.

Guessing the non-metallics have gone as DSG have updated their offer to £79 deposit and £79 a month including metallic - http://www.dsg-renault.co.uk/model.php?type=cars&model=zoe

The Tesla is nothing special from a technology point of view, the reason it has a 250+ mile range is because it has an 85kWh battery, the Zoe only has a 22kWh battery. If you do the maths the Zoe is actually more efficient as it has an NEDC range of 130 miles where as the 85kWh Model S is 311 miles. There is a reason the Model S is almost 5m long and weighs in at 2100Kg, they have to put all those batteries somewhere!

Having said that if money was no object I would love one :smiley:

They all do rapid but the scaled in down recently from 43kw to 22kw. Hopefully you got 43kw saves you 30mins either way you got a great deal.

Just ordered one this afternoon although my local dealer said he couldn't budge on the £70 battery rental because the price comes direct from Renault, has anyone found a deal on gap cover? I was quoted £500 from the dealership.

'Always' is a big word. Breakthroughs are starting to happen. Nothing revolutionary yet, but we're getting closer. The Tesla Model S can do 270 miles on one charge.

Ordered one today after a test drive. Really impressed with how it drove. Delivery due at beginning of June for a white one.

Don't get one of these. I like driving the only Zoe in my area and spend most days tittering at those who struggle to understand how I got a 100 yard jump on them at the lights...

Just signed up today. All the white ones (only solid colour now sold). Metallic paint car to be delivered in mid June

Amazing car. We are treating as a 2 yr hire car.

Grab one whilst you still can

3.19% i think it is, however as its pcp im kind of renting the car on a lease for two years for £125 a month as im handing it back then and gonna get a newer model / different car depending whats available at the time

satchef1 and manicmidlander- I agree that sounds like the case, but would be better if we had it in writing. Just so in two years time if they caused any problems we could show them.

I signed up to two years lease on the battery, but the battery contract is only signed when the car arrives, so I could change it to three years.

The battery lease is transferred when the car is sold or returned. Well that's my understanding. The sales guy went very quiet when I mentioned this and he said he couldn't recommend taking the 3 year battery lease and 2 year car lease but .... I guess he would say that wouldn't he.

The battery lease is cancelled when you hand the car back. It's also cancelled if you sell the car. The battery terms just seem to be a way of locking you in to that battery at that price for X months - otherwise people would want to change as soon as the price drops or if a higher capacity battery hits the market.

I think what Evans Halshaw and DSG may be doing is giving you the battery on a 3 year lease (which works out cheaper) rather than a 2 year lease, and then planning to cancel it after 18 months.

Does anyone have the T+C for the battery rental to double-check it can be cancelled at 18m? Otherwise you may have to continue paying for the battery for an extra year after you've given the car back.

They took forever to install mine and then tried to charge me for a new consumer unit. I cancelled and Jorro had it in within 2 weeks from start. I had to pay out a portion of the job but got the full amount back from transport scotland as they cover it

Price includes free charger installation from British Gas unless Jorro are better?

Yesterday I signed up for a deal with Parks Renault in Dunfermline for the two years for £167 a month with 10000 miles per annum which I thought was good.

After seeing the Evans Halshaw post above I contacted the Sighthill Edinburgh dealership and they undercut Parks down to £142 a month including metallic paint on 10000 miles. Parks came back and are now doing the deal for £139 a month including the metallic paint and lux pack. They are all looking for sales on electric vehicles as I think the bonus is bigger for them.

Incidentally Evans Halshaw came back and their lowest price was £137.80. I struck with Parks as the dealership is closer to my house. It pays to haggle.

The best I've got is £74.35 PCP and £80 pm for the battery. Its quite annoying how the price varies across the country.

Same story for me. I was shown the official Renault pricing document and I was quoted £75 for car and £75 for battery for 5000 miles a year

And a fourth. Cheapest I've managed to negotiate anyone down to is £72/m + £70 for battery rental (7500 miles per annum). I'm struggling to get anyone to budge from there.

It's weird that there's so much inconsistency with battery prices. Bristol Street says £55/m for 750 miles per quarter! AFAIK the battery remains property of Renault UK and you are renting it straight from them, so you'd think battery prices would be set.

Hmm they changing deals at their own will... on website it states £45 battery rental. I called in yesterday, they told me it its actually £50 now.. and only for 3k miles pa.

Me three! :smiley:

Can you please provide name of the person quoted you at Evans Halshaw Sheffield?
Also is BG installation at home included in the price?

It was sheffield evans halshaw...definitely £50 for 7,500 miles there - i drove for 90mins to get this deal, ask for the 3yr battery deal, you can end this anytime *aka after 2yrs* with no repurcussions if you hand the car back :smiley:

Evans Halshaw have just quoted me £76.88 for car and £80.00 for battery, 2 year PCP. They are telling me battery was £50.00 last month but has increased to £70.00/2yr or £80.00/3yr and car has been reduced from £99.00. They were adamant they can't do the £125.00 you were quoted, this was sheffield branch. Which branch did you deal with ?

Thanks

no its 7,500 miles aloud per year, anything over is charged at either 5p or 7p per mile cant remember which
no its 7,500 miles aloud per year, anything over is charged at either 5p or 7p per mile cant remember which

Thanks Ben, that's a great deal. Can I ask then do you have to pay the excess mileage on anything above 5,000 miles though your quoted mileage is 7500 like the other deals on this thread or is it all included upto 7500? Thanks

Brand new 2015 Zoe Dynamique Intens, non metallic, £75 p/m for car £50 p/m battery - excess mileage 5 or 7p/p/m free charging station, £99 acceptance included in the finance, Deposit £75.

Just had this accepted, should I wish to buy the car outright I can today for £9,300.10 *don't forget the 10p lol

its a 2yr PCP deal aka I can hand it back after 2yrs and walk away or pay a balloon payment of £8069.55

Just checked and its the engine which supports rapid charging too :smiley:

Hi Ben, any chance you could give a full breakdown of what you were offered? Any extra for mileage, free charging station? credit or acceptance fees? Deposit?

thanks

Now I know what I'm doing first thing tomorrow :stuck_out_tongue:

£125/m for 7500 miles/year is an absolute steal!

Actually I do own an EV (built by myself) but that's beside the point as I was referring to the statement that you get range anxiety when you reach 75 miles left in a PETROL car.

Thanks for the info and link. I'm test driving one at Bristol Street tomorrow and I'll be asking them to price match Evans Halshaw.

Very very good deal!

I got an exceptional deal (at the time) of £150 per month for 7,500 miles.

The car is fantastic and I used to be a bit of a petrolhead. With my current electricity rate and fuel prices, this car returns the equivalent to 180+mpg.

If anyone has any questions then I'm happy to answer them.

Ok i caved in, ive bought one however from evans halshaw instead of dsg as their costs were £75 p/m car + £50 battery hire per month for 7,500 miles - £125 a month in total :smiley: delivery is end of june as i wanted it in white, black blue and grey were available from sheffield today at 7pm

Hi,

It's actually an optional extra from the Renault garage. Your dealer will be able to get you one ordered through Renault.

I contacted Renault UK customer services via their online chat to complain about the delays and one of the managers called me to sort the problem out and offered a granny charger as a goodwill gesture.

Be warned though, it's VERY slow. Mine took 15-18 hours for a full charge from around 5%

Yep that's right. They are supposed to come out and survey your property to make sure they can install on their install day. However they didn't bother checking with mine.

If you have a spare fuse in your houses fuse box they will be able to install even if you haven't got an isolator switch.

As I didn't have either, I had to then wait for my energy provider to come out and fit a switch after endless delays with both them and Be.

Sunni, make sure you get straight onto British Gas regarding your install as soon as possible. I was 5 weeks without a charger due to BG messing me around.

Make sure you have an isolator switch or at the very least a spare fuse in you fuse box at home. This will stop any delays with BG.

On the other hand, I got a free domestic plug charger from Renault for the delay :smiley:

Unless you are sure you will drive no more than 750miles per quarter, the 3k battery lease works out quite expensive if you go over your mileage. It's 30pence per mile over 3k up to 5k. After that it will be around 35-38 pence per mile depending on your deal.

I would still recommend doing the 5k PCP and 7.5k battery if there is any chance of you going over 750miles per quarter.

Thanks Sunni.

So if I wanted a 3k deal what would you recommend and what are the charges? (they seem to be changing all the time!) and do you know what the extra mileage charges would be? Thanks

Congrats for the amended info! ...less puzzling as a result, (you can run the gauntlet on here can't you)!? :smile:

Anyone get a deal on the 5k miles? I want to get one.... Any help on prices would be great.

I also took up this deal. My local Renault dealer was able to pretty much match the deal DSG were offering, plus saved £100 drop off charge I would have to pay at DSG.

What expected delivery dates have you guys been given? I was given an estimate of end June, but waiting for my dealer to call me and confirm.

TBH I suspect my post is actually wrong. The 5ppm excess is probably on the car, not the battery, and they've simply not put the battery excess on the site. You rent the battery from Renault, so the prices should be standard everywhere (consequently, that would suggest the initial 5000 mile deal was an error, not a price that expired - 5000 miles isn't an available tariff).

Battery prices here:
https://www.renault.co.uk/vehicles/new-vehicles/zoe/battery-and-charging.html

If I was expecting to do 8k per year would this Bristol Street deal work out better?. Sorry to ask but I've not looked in to this kind of thing before.

Thanks Gav

Anyone had any luck getting the 7500 miles deal in the Derby/Nottingham area?.

After seeing this post this morning whilst drinking a nice Sunday morning cuppa tea, went to see what all the fuss was about.

One test drive later...Awesomely happy Zoe owners. The cars brilliant to drive, the cost (2yrs) is amazing, now just looking forward to pick her up :smiley:

Thanks for the post. The guys @ DSG were getting all kinds of enquiries & orders for this deal.

Thanks again.

Popping in & out of Norway I have plenty of experience of the Buddy, Nissan leaf, Tesla, & a few other EV's, as well as the prius (1st generation when I was in Canada) funny how in Norway with all it's extreme weather & prolonged cold Battery car sales are bouyant in an oil rich (a well invested northern european based country).

Not really a problem with range if you plan it into your lifestyle, or buy one to use within realistic parameters such as weather conditions. (otherwise it's like buying shoes 3 sizes too small, & what halfwit does that)!?
My batteries will be likely coming from over there for our home power solar car canopy parking & charging bay (bad weather = write offs due to lots of ice on the road, lithium batteries are damn tough units when designed into a vehicle properly, very little amount of failed individual cells when checks run to ensure batts are ok & balanced afterwards, in fact an emerging secondary market.

Released this morning here is @bobbyllew 's quick go in the i8 from BMW HERE

An absence of German Autobahn's here in the extreme "sunshine" ..which by dint of horses for courses puts your argument on a very different track.

Ladies and Gents, my input for what it is worth. I work for BMW and have regular access to their i3. As per MPG figures on petrol/diesel cars the range quoted is utter nonsense, we cannot even use the works i3 as a pool car between Hams Hall engine plant and Oxford vehicle plant as it cannot make the journey! I also recently had the Nissan Leaf on extended week long test drive, what an utter nightmare. My commute is 17 miles each way. Both vehicles had to be charged every night as I could not get to work and back for 2 days in either car. The analogy I make is that it is comparable to going to the petrol station EVERY DAY, range anxiety is a massive worry. On a plus point the acceleration is awesome, if the manufacturers and battery companies can address the range issue then pure electric vehicles have a very positive future, until that point a hybrid/range extender is the sensible option.

What is the gearbox, manual or automatic?

Blimey would have been tempted by this at the original mileage quote of 5,000 miles as I have just got a quote on insurance for £250 and that's the cheapest I have ever been quoted for any car. The 750 or so miles per quarter now seems to small for my needs.

Would've have been perfect if my work had charger as i don't have a drive at home.

Does anyone know if there are any incentives for businesses installing any EV charge points?

Aye....they pulled a 'topcashback' 'change the deal terms as people started to sign up/ enquire

The deal changed. The cheaper option is now rubbish TBH. The 30ppm excess mileage charge kills it.

Any ideas on insurance for the Zoe?

Why all the arguments about ice v's ev, I have a leaf and commute 46 miles a day which uses 45 to 50% of the battery, I get home and it takes a minute to plug it in to charge, we have solar panels so on a sunny day the recharge cost is minimal so lets say I recharge the battery 3.5 times a week at a cost of £3.00 per 100% charge less lets say 25% allowing for free electric from the solar system which works out at around £7.40 per week in electricity, in my previous diesel car this was costing me £30 a week, plus the leaf is far better for the environment and is a far more relaxing quieter drive with no freezing car to get into on a cold morning with pre heat.
So stop the bickering as it works out fine for some folk and will not work for others

Might give this a test drive, thanks.

We have had a leaf for 3 weeks, do stop/start around town short journeys that used to get low 20s in a petrol and mid 30s in a diesel and we get a notional range of 85 miles although we charge it every night, it lives in the garage so this is less of a chore than going to the petrol station in an ice. With Nissan you can borrow an ice for 14 days a year, we will use it for a week in Devon this summer and a few longer trips, the dealer is within a mile which makes it very straight-forward and also puts us close to a fast charge should we need it.

how long will a charge last you on of these? and would it take fuel as well?

£114 a month for 5K
£152 a month for 7.5K

means 18p a mile. How does this stack up via the recent leaf deal?
Btw, for accurate comparison, your getting the top model here with all the bells and whistles

I'm asking what car does 30mpg at 180mph. I don't care if you drove 89865787mph. Also is the retail of this car the same as say a tesla? I'm just struggling to see the relevance of this compared to a Nissan Leaf. If your talking about High spec'd BMWs then you are better comparing it to a tesla. I'm not being a nob at all, just making the point

So you admit that in just a couple of minutes, the range could go from 80 to 40 miles remaining as displayed on screen, thank you for confirming, and I do apologize if I said 10 seconds when it actually takes a couple of minutes.

That was too much of a stress for me. Of course, if you are ok with that, that's fine. Just imagine when you have a 30 miles journey and you check your car in the parking, you have 40 miles on display, and 2 minutes later you only have 15 miles displayed... that range anxiety will suddenly be very familiar to you.

So now you are not saying it is significant... and that it is about a mile :smiley: I thought you are contradicting me, now it sounds like you just confirmed what I just said.

Easy to achieve 100 miles in London? I challenge that statement, and would say it is very rare and difficult to achieve 100 miles, if not impossible.

I did the math for you before and did it better than you, ok, so 25.5 x 5 = 127.5 miles! So your average is 127.5 miles, which is indeed way more than the reported range the manufacturer dares to advertise. Again, credibility and all that.

FYI I work in the EV industry. These things HATE public charge points. Don't buy unless you're ok with the fact they won't work on a lot of public chargers.

180? Unbelievable Jeff. 30mpg doing 180? What mystical machine was this?

Listen sunshine, if you are going to pussyfoot around town at 15/20 mph then this might be for you. I drive regularly on German Autobahns at 180mph in BMW's that still achieve 30mpg at that speed over several miles. Horses for courses!

Everyone in this thread will definitely die, ultimately this deal is as pointless as your lives, so why waste time on whose wrong and whose right.

You are always proving me right actually, every time you answer. I told you you won't be able to refrain from answering as you HAVE to have the last word. And of course you resort to personal insults when you cannot provide facts.

The fact you were doing 95mph is massively relevant. When my friend puts his foot down on on his focus ST he gets 7MPG. The thing eats diesel! How is that not relevant?? The faster you go the lower range/lower mpg you get?? The guy had to be doing over 100mph too and drove for a few minutes. Why would you think the speed isn't relevant??

I know, EV is very new to a lot of people and fair opinions are perfectly fine as EVs aren't for everyone but I don't like seeing someone talking rubbish that other readers read and think is true :smiley:

I can completely and utterly confirm this statement as true as I have also had the Leaf on a 7 day test drive.
Range was showing 68 miles, I accelerated on the M6 uphill 4 lanes southbound approaching Corley services, hit 95mph for a mile or two and range plummeted to 32 miles! The fact I was doing 95mph is irrelevant as motorway was empty at 10pm at night so not dangerous driving at that speed, however what may have caused a crash was the Leaf grinding to a halt a couple of miles further on with no battery left! Needless to say I handed it back to Nissan salesman with a very firm NO THANK YOU!

Not ever seen one of these however first impressions are it's better looking than a Leaf not sure how it compares though probably too early to compare reliability.

Im not arguing just don't want people to get wrong information from someone who clearly has agenda.

And the point about range going from 80 to 40 in 10 seconds just can't happen even if he went 100mph. it would take a couple minutes :wink:

Credibility eh? Have you not heard of different driving styles? Some people have a heavy foot and accelerate fast this leads to reduced range. Its no different in a petrol/diesel car... if you rev the car you will get lower mpg. Anyway 100miles per full charge is easily achievable in London, my current average is 5miles per Kwh. Leaf has a 25.5 Kwh battery you do the maths.

Also 'above' should have been 'about', I'm not saying it significant but it adds up.

Sorry but you are proving to me that your a bit of a troll. You seem to know very very little about EVs but would rather have different arguments with different users.

How's about we go back to the original point.... You stated your test drive car had 80 miles and then you looked again after an estimation of 10 seconds and you have 40. This is complete ****, it doesn't happen in a leaf and can't happen because the range meter simply doesn't work like that. The only person caught out here is you by talking sh*te. The reason a lot of people are arguing with you is because you have asked for it by being very uneducated in your knowledge of EVs :smiley:

You are not done unless you have the last word.

Anyway, you keep throwing untrue statements around. Now you are somehow assuming you know my driving profile.

Just to reiterate, you said you get just 75 miles range driving in Eco mode "of course".

I said potential buyers should expect 75-80 miles range.

So if you and me are getting the same range, why do you assume I have a different driving profile? :smiley: catched you again... :smiley:

I'm not assuming anything I like, I asked you politely if you are a owner speaking from experience.
Calm down and try to keep the conversion on point.
I did indeed miss the link. It happens.

But do you own an EV?
Probably not, as you can just make assumptions about a person you don't know, why not make some about a car you don't know, right?

You can't realistically plan a journey longer than 75 miles between two charging points. You might get the 75 but what if you don't... It's not as easy as having a jerry can in the trunk.

Just to point out something. The cost per mile over the limit is separate for both the car and the battery. And annoyingly, the limits are different for both.

So if you are taking the 7500 (battery) miles per year, and drive over that, it's going to cost 7.5p/mile for the battery. But, the car's limit is only 5000 miles - anything over is 6p/mile. So if you drive the full 7500 battery miles, you'll still need to pay 2500 * 6p = £150.

If you take the 3000 (battery) miles option, and want to drive 5000 (car) miles, it will be 30p * 2000 = £600.

1. Noone (I repeat, noone) but you is reporting 100 miles range. Read above, some are reporting 60 for Zoe in the winter, Leaf about 75 in Eco mode, and even dealers admit is around 80. That established your credibility.
2. You get up to 1% increase from the regenerative breaking system? That is up to 1 mile, not "above 1 mile".
3. Taking point 1 into account, 1% is insignificant, which was my point all along. How is a mile extra significant? I would rather be offered the car without this system and pay less or get the higher trim level for free. Instead, they charge you thousands for a better stereo but give you included a system that gives you 1 extra mile range...

If you go on a motorway journey and do 70-80mph what is the rough range?

I've just been to my local dealer to enquire about this. and ended up ordering one. i dont even want a car.
the dealer couldnt match it exactly but close enougn...the deal i had was:
+79 deposit - paid there and then
+79 per month for 2 years - car finance
+35 per month for battery hire (750 miles per quater)
+99 credit set up fee
mileage is 30p per mile over and above the 750 miles per qtr.

i got the impression the charge point was mandatory so they can monitor your mileage. 3 pin cable is £500.

after 2 years i pay £8111 and keep it. re finance or give it back.

insurance is about the same as a small car he said...but the insurance company need to value the car (15k) the battery (5k) government fund towards car (5k) - ive not done insurance quote yet.

so, excluding my upfront costs (79 + 99), per month is
+£115 (lease and battery)
-£15 tax
-£50 petrol
-£3 discount on elec bill (Ecotricity EV tarrif)
+8 per month electric to charge (based on my mileage and unit rate)
= £52 per month.
including upfront costs (180\24) = 79.50

provided insurance is no more expensive this is an absolute no brainer.

delivery is unknown but im expecting around 6 weeks. finance results in 12-36 hrs but he says its rare to fail (unless iva/brupcy/jobless etc)

hope that helps anyone?

Different plug :wink:

Dont understand your problem with the quoted range. For some diesel cars combined MPG is quoted to be above 80mpg but as you never get anywhere near that in real life. Are they being dishonest as well?
It's the same with EVs where the test is done in conditions which are perfect so you get a higher range than in real life conditions. Although i am getting 100miles real life range in stop start traffic in my leaf which I'm happy with.

Also your comments about the charging time being 8 hours is also false. Using a 7kw charger you can fully charge in 4 hours and to about 90% in under 2.5 hours. Finally regenerative braking does work and I've seen up to 1% gains which equates to above a mile.

EVs are clearly not suitable to your needs but for majority who live and commute within the city they're perfect. There os no range anxiety ( as you say driving with the reserve light on) because 100miles is more than enough to commute multiple times in city.

I have had a zoe for one year.
In winter you get 60miles on a full charge with very slow economic driving.
In summer this is around 80 miles.
You cannot use a 3 pin mains plug, the car doesn't come with an adapter and Renault don't sell one (I was told this by renault)
A lot of fast charge (Dalton Park, metro centre for example) and a lot of public charge points will not work with the zoe , especially older charge points, this is a common problem that zoe drivers have (I've asked every one I've met), and I have a lot of charge points in my area, the NE, I think we have the most in the country.

Saying all that, I love it, but wouldn't buy it again.

I don't know too many details, I'm building an e-commerce store and we will be selling them. I think they are £2299. Il find out some more info and post it here on Monday when I make a few calls :smiley:

Thanks, are they building their own units based on the bosch system do you know!? (oh man the problems with the giant units based on them faffing around so much over the years) ..if so i'm interested, been holding out for a good one, (spares aren't too badly priced for the bosch units paraphanalia, but I don't like the idea of paying for software upgrades @£25 a time

There's a very good e-bike manufacturer in Edinburgh who are opening an online store soon

Why the hell isn't there proportionate funding for e-bikes!? pedelec or otherwise, the reputation of which is frequently damaged by low quality chinese units, (though Go-cycle didn't do themselves any favours when they left the market after v1 & doubled the price on the v2 .. :disappointed: it seems firmly aimed at the yachting F1 types. (& has a naff marketing / pr department)

Go and check how long a 6.6kw leaf takes to charge on a 32amp home charger. I don't need to have the final say at all just explaining how the common misconception is of EVs is wrong. As I've stated before they are meant for a specific driver profile. I have had the car for 2 months and can properly comment. I had little to no expectations of what a EV could do until I owned one. Finally in relation to 'a smooth ride', if a driver constantly uses the torqueiness of the Leaf from place to place then the drive although fun is not smooth, you are accelerating quickly (especially at slow speeds) so is not smooth. If you had 80 miles on the clock then you likely had 90% battery which means you had hardly covered any miles. Anyway I'm done arguing. My leaf costs me £170 a month including all fuel where as even my Sandero which is the cheapest car on the market at £115 a month costs me £180 after fuel and that's including a leaf that is much higher spec'd. This is my last comment, I'm done. I'm going to go for a 75 mile drive.

Assume anything you like! ...If you can't click the clearly highlighted link I've got to keep myself in check with regards to your experiences depth of field where EV's are concerned though :smile:

Or as a 'courtesy car' each time the Audi is broken.

What am i missing? Is this the same as a lease or do you actually own it at the end of two years?

I don't think the problem here is range anxiety but you.

Anyone in Scotland can get a fully funded charge point. No cost at all after cashback. I used a company called Jorro. Loving the Nissan Leaf

I have one of these, took delivery early January. I've covered 4.5k miles in it since then, it's great! Despite having another two cars I can't remember the last time I had to go to a petrol station. To anyone thinking about one of these I say go for it.

Where can I find this fully charged movie? Is this a Top gear special?

You didn't mention if you actually owned or own an EV, so I would assume you don't, do you want to test range anxiety? Just drive your petrol car with the reserve on all the time. It is pretty much the same thing. I was like you, all for them, until I tried them, and yes, 75 miles range in Eco mode is ridiculous.

Regenerative braking ? Seriously? That doesn't even add 1 mile to the range, if you can find someone saying different...

Think about it, it takes 8 hours to charge the car from a charging point, how much would you have to break to charge it to a significant level? Surely the energy from breaking is far less than that coming from a charger also.

I am all for EVs, but for now, it is just dishonest to the public what is going on. Nissan quotes 124 miles range, and from what I saw in the comments here, most people ASSUME it is about 100, as they cannot accept it is actually 25% lower than that.

The first thing the Nissan dealer told me on the phone was that the range is actually about 80... 1st thing! I didn't even ask. But they know how frustrating that is or maybe they don't want people asking their money back when they discover range is almost half of the official figure.

In practice, 90% of the time you cannot really achieve a full charge either, so the actual range goes even lower... all the numbers quoted about "30 min chargers" are for 80% of the battery... now let's also factor in the fact that the battery is not really holding charge 100% of the brand new capacity, and here you have it, your "real life" range is much lower even than the 75 miles other optimistic users are quoting here.

Yeah, it seemed like you are one of those individuals that have to have the last word and impose their opinions on others at all cost, even though the facts contradict them. You cannot read my post, or google for that matter, seeing that you cannot accept the 124 quoted range that is shown by the manufacturer, or to comprehend that remaining range of 40 doesn't imply I was getting 40... lol... it just means 40 plus what I already covered... hope you get it now.

Also, every time I took the car off the charger, I would see figures like 100 miles range that would rapidly drop to 70, I am sure this happens on yours as well, but of course you are driving in eco mode, and my car was defective.

You are the only one spreading false info about the EVs. Charging time is definitely not 4 hours, but glad you at least accept range is only about 75, "in eco mode, of course". No, Eco mode is not at all a "smoother ride"... again ridiculous... electric cars are good at one thing, and that is offering a smooth ride. Eco mode is just cutting the power in a desperate attempt to increase range, and as you yourself mentioned, it is only about 4 miles better, which again is not significant.

Charging time is as stated in the manual about 8 hours on the normal chargers. A bit more actually. Those are the only chargers I could find around me, of course having a fast charger might help, although even those are not that fast (80% of the already low 75 miles range makes things a bit sad).

The main idea remains: you have a car with only 75 miles range, and you have to estimate how much you can still drive before you get stuck in the middle of the road, as the estimated remaining range is just that, an estimate. I felt the pressure every single day, and like I said, it is like driving a petrol car with the fuel reserve light on all the time... it is not a pleasant feeling.

regenerative braking on the leaf!? ...folks go watch "fully charged" all about electric vehicles, deals with "stoopid peoples battery woes" ..which typically don't affect the majority except for long trips.
& the episode where he purposely lets the battery run out completely would be a "hand holding" revelation for those who suffer from the media hype of range anxiety. Range anxiety.. here

Not sure how it works in England but all home chargers are updated to the 32amp which takes 4 hours. I use the rapid charger at my local services and go from 20% up to 80% in 25mins (this is due to the rapid charger outputting 105amps). We will agree to disagree and I'm not insulting anyone in my previous post. I'm not a fan of the common misconception about EVs. New Zoe which is due to ship has a range of 150 miles (that's why they are really cheap now BTW). I work with a lot of EV dealers and been to many green fleet events and they all quote 109 miles. I have seen people getting 90 miles in their leaf but I like to use all the toys inside etc. As I said before the Eco mode is a much smoother ride than other modes and that's the main reason I prefer driving in that mode. If your driving your leaf so hard that you only get 40 miles then maybe you would be better with a focus ST or something.

I can see you are now getting into insults.
what you say it is not true.

I googled nissan leaf range, feel free, quoted mileage is 124. Not 109.

You mentioned in your first post you drive in eco mode, "of course", and yet you get about 75 miles. That's bad enough, let's face it, 75 is a complete different story to the 124 advertised. Now you try to change that and move away from the "eco mode, of course".

You also seem to be unable to read what I said, that I did not time precisely the 10 seconds, it is just an estimation, yes, range varies A LOT from minute to minute, and when you already only have about 75, it is a very stresful experience. When my petrol car shows me 75 remaining miles I go to refuel asap. On the leaf, that's basically what you get after an agonising 8 hours of charging. Cause this is how long it takes to fully charge it on the regular chargers you find in the car parks.

My point is that what you said is not true. I often turn Eco mode off and have a bit of fun but never has my range depleted by 40 miles. The range will not drop like that and I drive it everyday. When you turn off Eco mode the range will drop by 4 miles but will also drop faster the harder your pushing the car. I have the acenta and has 2 modes (regressive breaking built in). The common Nissan quoted miles is 109. My point is solely that either it didn't really drop by 40 miles or you got a faulty car. EV aren't for everyone and is based on day to day distance but telling people that the car dropped by 40 miles in 10 seconds is madness

http://www.bristolstreet.co.uk/new-car-deals/renault/zoe/dynamique-intens/186600/renault-zoe-dynamique-intens-5dr-auto/

A solution for anyone looking for a better deal at lower mileage.

£79/m for the car.
£35/m for the battery lease (3000 miles).
£79 deposit.

Advantage is, excess mileage is only 5p per mile, so the price for up to 5k miles is much more realistic. An extra 2k miles would be £100

The quoted range is actually around £120 if I am not mistaken.

You are kind of confirming what I said actually, you admit you only get around 75 miles, which is what I said as well, and you mention Eco mode and say "of course". I am not sure why "of course", the car has 2 other modes so I am sure plenty people choose them as well, and they are not forced to use Eco mode. Eco mode it's killing the acceleration. You might say that is not true, but it is, I read the manual, drove the car, so I know.

You seem to use the car on Eco mode and not have any fun with it, and maybe this is why you didn't experience what I described. But you should not take it so literally, when I said 10 seconds, of course I didn't time it and kept my eyes exclusively on the dials (that would have been dangerous), however, the quoted mileage definetely varies a lot, you wait at a traffic light 2 or 3 times, your mileage suddenly looks very optimistic, you accelerate to get onto a motorway, bum, it goes down a lot.

Yes it's changed.

I was quoted £73.15 / month for the car and £70 / month for the battery, for 7500 miles. Including admin fee etc. total over two years: £3683.60.

I still think that's a decent price.

The deal changed as of midday.
Before it was for 6k or so miles per year, they then changed it to 750 miles per quarter at the same price.. which is 3k miles.

Works out costly as its about 30p extra per mile battery + 8p extra per mile car lease.

3k miles is about 59 miles per week.

Are DSG part of the topcashback group?! :wink:

Is this congestion charge exempt? Do major city councils allow free on street parking or am I just dreaming with that one?

Glad some of you good folks are finding this offer useful. Wife Just had a test drive but not sure enough to put pen to paper as we already have a Nissan leaf (from the offer posted last month) and is concerned about 2 electric cars in the family and no normal ice cars due to range phobia. what do you lot think.

I'm really tempted but can do with some advice.
I drive ( on average ) 300 miles per week. If I went for the 7500 offer ( which totals £142, how much would the excess miles cost?

My petrol costs at the minute are around £160 per month + Tax + MOT.

would this save me money????

Any advice would be appreciated

I don't quite think your telling the truth with the 80 miles down to 40 miles within 10 secons. I have a leaf and get easily 75 miles out of the 109 mile quoted. That is with eco mode ofcourse but all that does it control your acceleratrion to make it a smoother ride. The EVs are for a specific user profile. I do 40 miles a day so the leaf is perfect for me. My work has a charger (which is fully funded if you get an EV) and a home charger. I charge my car every couple of days and sometimes when I go for a coffee which is free. The range isn't as good as stated but have you ever seen a quoted MPG be accurate? You will get 75 miles out an EV no problem. I would not suggest constant motorway driving as that eats the battery. As I have said, If you do small journeys then its incredible and as soon as the charging infustructure is improved then it will be even better. Who even likes going to a petrol station? Arrive home and stick it on charge job done. I can also pre heat my car from inside the house through the app.

Realistically, you'd get 100 miles from the Zoe, and a full charge on my electricity tariff would cost £3.

Seriously tempted...

............nah, id rather have an iphone 6

some answers to questions

battery payment and car payment are separate DD payments
Make sure you speak to your insurer to check that they insure the battery as well as they equate to around £7.5k in value
So far been unable to find gap insurance which covers the battery as well as the car
for the charger you need a drive or front as they wont install if in a terrace house and the cable has to go across the pavement.
You also need a breaker for when installing the electrical point for isolation
Charge takes between 3-4hrs and can be done in the rain :smiley:
Rough cost of charge depends on rate of KW but for me its roughly £2.50 a charge
free quick charges are available at the ;likes of ikea and with ecotricity (card required)
The car does do trickle charging when breaking or slowing down
The car can be set to charge any point during the day or night and will email you when charge is complete
Car heater can be preset before those cold mornings and also heats up instantly :smiley:

Roughly 60-70 before i charge it again, with my commute to work and back being 14 miles if the mileage shown left is in the teens or less than i will charge it from there. The car is definitely better for slow city rush hour traffic for getting more miles. If i go in rush hour to work i use about 5 miles worth of electric for a 7 mile journey

ive had one of these since December, great car and very nippy, any questions ask away

good for a local run around car

Weird (and probably stupid) question

Do you pay the 4.2%APR on the monthly payments or the lump sum at the end?

What I'm wondering is if I was to get the car and give it back after 2 years would I be paying any interest

Jeff, what happened to the 5000 mile battery lease for £45/month? It's not showing on the site any more. 5k is enough for me. 7.5k is a lot more than I need while 3k isn't enough.

Cool. Can leave it up to the LL whether we have the fast charger or not then. Not sure she'll mind tbh but it's good to have a contingency.

Im sure the battery was recently £50 a month for 7500 miles a year? Im guessing they have increased it back to £70 to reduce the original cost of the car?

UNBELIEVABLE JEFF

Awesome deal, my wife will be so happy, this is a Zoe I won't be sticking my nozzle in every week.

What a great deal!! Arranging a test drive for Monday at lookers

Look at the blurb at the bottom of your linked webpage:

Website is now showing 3K miles a year for £45 battery lease ?

apologises saw battery hire on top of this too but this is the 7500 miles not 5000 so poss same deal

renault bham are doing £249 acceptance and arrangement fee and then £99 per month for the top spec

http://www.renaultretail.co.uk/new-renault-cars/electric-vehicles/renault-zoe/dynamique-intens/

5k miles

so tempted with one of these for the wife

Having trouble getting an insurance quote as the car "Zoe" doesn't show up on go compare etc.
Can any owners comment on the insurance comparison to petrol/diesel cars ?

OK based on 7500 miles, the car it is 1 x £171 then 23 x £72 then a final payment of £8171 + £70 per month for the battery lease.

Got a feeling Jeff's mobile phone will be pretty busy over the next few hours.

:laughing:

Hi, If you decide to hand the car back at the end of the agreement there will be no charge for reasonable wear and tear.

Us HUKDers like average monthly prices spread across the 2 years.

Are you saying that the total payable for 7.5k miles pa is £171 first payment followed by 23 monthly payments of £142?

£3437 over 2 years? Or £143.21 per month average?

Hi Jeff. Can you explain the 5000mile lease too please?

ive taken the 70 per month battery,just waiting to hear back now.

Battery lease is for 3000 miles, 30p per mile thereafter £45 per month battery lease. £70 battery lease gets you 7500

Hi OP - I'm interested in the deal, but struggling to work out the all-in costs (and identify them from the site).

Assuming I want the 7500 miles option, do I pay:
£238 in acceptance and credit fees
£69 per month for car
£60 per month for battery (@7500 miles) according to the PDF price guide
and that's it?

The post above mentions £72 and £80 per month...

Any clarification on the full costs would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Edit: Just noticed the 6p per extra mile charge over 5000. Does this apple to the car only, I assume?

Is there a cooling off period if I order now? Don't wanna miss out but need to think it through properly

My local has its own point which they own and you have to collect the carving tag from behind customer services.



Don't think Zoe comes with a 3 pin cable but I'm not 100% sure

Great price - shame insurance is so expensive on this for me!

just ordered one...this site is supposed to save me money now im ordering cars!

don't expect more than 90 miles on a charge. traffic conditions, air temperature and driving style affect mileage

Yeah a domestic socket does work. At 9.5 hrs you work out your kilowatt hour charge and figure out how much it will cost you.

Just run the wire out of your letter box or under a garage door or something

So mains does work? If that's the case then I can proceed either way.

Stupid question alert:

Do I need the Wallbox? I rent my home and I'm not sure the landlord will want one fitted. Is it possible to charge via a standard mains plug instead?

If not, I'll have to ask the LL is she minds. I guess it depends how easy it is to remove when we leave TBH.

The charge points are not run by the supermarkets. The companies that operate the charge points are like mobile phone companies and they are given the right to operate the charge points from the carpark owners on there own terms.

Its the long term costs that pose the biggest question mark.

That a side it should not put you off the deal as its only short term, its been going on a for a while as Renault et al are desperate to get examples on the road to boost awareness. As popularity increases the deals will be less good.

Things like Zap Map will give you a better idea of operators and costs.

Where does it say that the battery needs to be kept beyond the two year lease period?

Servicing?

am I missing something as I can't see a link to click to go for it?

Those thinking about buying the battery outright need to consider that over time the battery pack will lose efficiency so the range will suffer. Apparently if you lease the battery Renault will swap it when efficiency drops to 75%.

How long it will take the battery to reach 75% I have no idea. But it does mean that over time the cars range will decrease until they replace the battery pack.

This probably means leasing is the way to go. Every two years get a brand new one!

yep there is, thats the only the only drawback in this deal


yes they are free, some places have charges for parking though. My guess would be as more charge points become PAYG supermarkets would still remain free.

Am I missing anything here? £114/m, 7kW chargebox, 5k miles a year.

Seems a brilliant deal.

CommentThere may be an excess for the battery lease too.

I was shocked to hear that the charging is free of charge. Now that's a great deal. If Renault own the battery for the life time they have to recycle it or them at the end

Looks like this particular model comes with rear parking sensors, rear camera, automatic wipers with rain sensors and auto lighting as standard options too.

Excuse my noobiness but do the electric charge points at eg Supermarkets cost you to charge the car.

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Cool. It's only a 3.5kwh and see they provide a 7kw. I take it the charging cycle is just 2 times longer.

I've got an etron on order which hasn't come yet. A Zoe would be good for the wife

I have a type 2 pod point charging station would this car be able to use it?

This actually seems almost too good to be true, I haven't slept all night so maybe I'm missing something? Apart from admin, credit facility and registration fees of course!

My commute is only 14 miles a day, but unfortunately I need to go to customer meetings occasionally which would be over the range, and with very little chance of there being a charging point when I get to the meeting.

Ta OP.

I''m pretty sure that if the vehicle is registered new with the battery lease, it stays with the vehicle and there is no way of coming out of the Renault battery lease contract. Although you may change the original mileage lease of the battery for the new owner. Also new Renault's come with a 4 year free servicing and warranty if anyone is interested in the PCP deal.

Im currently looking to purchase one of these however im wondering if you can buy out of the battery lease? The zoe-i models include a battery and cost £3300 ish more as the battery is fully paid for so, if i get say a 12month old used vehicle for say £8000 with under 2000 miles can i then buy the battery out of the lease or is it leased for life at around £600 a year? I actually cant find an answer to this online just wondered if any zoe owners are on here who might know the answer?

how it work? as it says
total amount payable - £10,002 for car .

Hahaha that's hilarious. Except that there's absolutely no reason why you couldn't go to Europe in one.

mate of mine had one of these on extended test hire, Very nice inside and quite nippy, Think he was getting about 70 miles range out of it

Up to 120 miles on one charge :smiley::smiley: - you never ever need gps with European maps..

oh, sorry. I didn`t realise.

Pretty hot -no deposit £114 a month drive for 2 years and give it back!

+ £5800 deposit