Did you three turn up on the same bus?

APU = CPU with onboard graphics for those who aren't aware of the AMD APU chips. It means less power used and longer battery life, plus a half decent graphics card on board.

This will be good enough to get 30fps or more on GTA V at the laptop's resolution (1366 x 768) in medium with the more CPU intensive features turned off and should play most games, even new ones on low to medium.

nice yo see a deal on an Ubuntu laptop :smiley:

Heat from me for no windows:)

this one or Lenovo 100-15IBD?

Is this laptop eligible for the cash back ebuyer are advertising to drop it to £249.99?

HP promotions aren't showing May promotions yet on their website.

Check this out...
http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/index.php?pid=2139&cpu=APU%20A10-7300%20Quad-Core
http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/processors/notebook-tablet/apus#
Yes definitely won't play the gta v, but yes can play plenty of games and at this price I don't think you will find something similar...
Just my opinion. Thanks

Already a linux user and advocate of open source. This machine looks like a very good spec for the price.

Thanks for this. The Lenovo seems to be £249 without any hassle of cashback now.

I require a laptop for my daughter asap to help with her A-levels so can't really wait for this HP deal on pre-order.

What is the best way of comparing processors?

The cpubenchmark website, higher score the better.

I'm looking for a decent laptop that she can take to uni next year but in true HUKD style, without breaking the bank!

Thanks

I'm interested in this too, would this play older games? my most recent pc game was witcher 2/diablo 3 with a back catalogue of older steam and gog games.

what about a moba (league of legends) or an mmo (the old Republic)?

Looking for a new laptop, currently have a Fujitsu Lifebook AH530 and is slowing down a bit. Don't know anything about laptops, but would this one get the everyday stuff and streaming etc done? Light gaming would be nice aswell, and would be willing to spend 100-150 pounds more if there's any good gaming laptops for that price!

Hmm... I don't see the benefit of the other machine, apart from a 1tb HDD, which you can get for a bit more than the £30 price difference.

lower spec GPU according to comments. can't comment on the CPU, but more cores are useful if you're a video editor/coder, not so much for gaming.


My experience of Linux hasn't been positive. it's great out the box, but once I started tweaking, hours were spent googling to get things to work the way I wanted, and I always ended up back on windows.

not to say don't get the other, it's just what are you going to be using it for?

Agreed.

If this helps anyone decide...

Not only is there a version of Steam on Linux, I started running Ubuntu-based Linux Mint approx. 2-3 months ago and found that while booted to Linux my Windows version of Steam and most of my DirectX9 Windows games also installed and ran great using WINE and Play On Linux (which for those who don't know is an app that automates the installation of the Windows version of Steam - as well as being able to install other Windows games/software on Linux). Depending on which games you play Linux can indeed replace Windows. My previous Windows 7 installation is now just a games machine for DirectX10 and DirectX11 games (maybe 5% of my games collection) but I don't miss it at all and use it rarely.

For more demanding games the A10 7500 and 7600P have more graphics power available, but the 7300 is still a great chip for less demanding games and multimedia work/general computing and better on battery life than the more electricity hungry alternatives.

This laptop is a bargain. I have seen this APU bundled with Windows selling for approx. £500. Heat added.

Which is a better deal for streaming HD and light gaming, so Football Manager basically?
This or
Asus-X555LA

dont like anything apart from Windows.

u really need to use it before making statements like that. major games are on ubuntu through steam

also waiting for mir and convergence with ubuntu phone. it will be a dream come true

ubuntu is going to rock as steam is on linux now and many game devs are moving to linux arena.. many other will follow..

360 and ps3 play gta5 just fine. Something to bear in mind.

Is this good enough to for 1080p video editing??

I think offering Ubuntu is a great idea, all the Microsoft products are okay but these days not that necessary.
i use Irfanview as it has a better than Paint, chrome for internet and kingsoft for office all these are free online downloads and i would be very willing to give ubuntu a go.

There is a MASSIVE difference in performance between the A10 7300 and the A10 7850.
Seriously, just stop...

720M actually just about scrapes it for the game. And, yes it can play GTA V. Whether someone would want to on this is another matter as it probalby won't look half as nice on low settings, but it will work and it will be playable. That's not to say anyone should ever think of buying this laptop for gaming, but it's a pretty versatile machine for the money and it will be perfectly fine for most tasks.

Seems like a great laptop, we are not all spotty gamers so I disregard everything you nerds say.

I have pre ordered as it provides plenty of bang for the buck.

Perhaps, however the GPU is a R6 series. Which is bloody hopeless, it's about as fast as a GeForce GT 720M. Which is a turd in itself.

Ubuntu lol just lol

While accurate, the above also is not a guarantee of security. If anything, in some cases, the Linux setup you have just described is how Windows USED to be! (See post above - pre UAC days)

In a typical Linux home install, the main logged in user (in 99% of installs) will have admin/root rights. So that user account only has to be infected then the sudo password can be sniffed/caught/hacked/whatever and away you go.

http://superuser.com/questions/793240/preventing-malware-from-sniffing-the-sudo-password

Not so likely at the moment as Linux home desktop installs (in the grand scheme of things) are a tiny fraction of whats out there. Mostly run by people that at least have a fair idea of what they're doing (unlike many Mac users who believe they are invincible once they start using OSX - yet have no idea why they think that). But if the market share was the other way round, and Linux was 75%+ of the home desktop market, I suspect you'd see a much bigger push of malware that went after Linux systems using methods very like those described in that post. I suspect a sniffer/catcher could probably silent install without full root access and then lurk until it got what it wanted.

Anyhoo. As you say, malware is way (WAY) less likely on a Linux build. But I never like to see anyone saying "just forget about it, you're immune now!" .... :smiley:

i've moved away from Windows around an year into linux. ..
I would never return to Windows again !!

Actually surprisingly, yes, the AMD A10-7300 is faster than the infamous Intel Q6600 and Phenom 9850 in single-threaded computing performance, and matches the Q6600 in multi-threaded performance, while being far superior in power usage (and of course newer CPU features such as AES/SSE4/AVX/VT/etc)!

(Based on synthetics from PassMark).

this made me laugh out loud.
Agreed with other comments at the fact the processor is **** poor.

Whoa, sounds like you haven't used Windows for over 10 years?
Since Windows Vista, the default user is a normal user, and if an application requires admin permissions, it asks Windows, which in turn asks the user for elevated permission.
Even running command prompt / explorer runs as normal user now.

Correction, most of the servers, perhaps yes.

But... there is a reason why most of the desktops on the Internet run Windows!
(Windows: ~75%, OSX: ~10%, while Linux still remains around the 1% mark!)

An A10 7850 can play GTA V in 1080p at mostly medium settings smoothly. It's a well optimised game. The A10 7300 is less powerful but would cope at the lower resolution (which is the laptop's resolution anyway). I'm sure it would be even smoother on low settings.

Nope, never had a Mac, can't afford one, but been using Ubuntu as my main OS since version 5. I agree you are not immune, but you are much less likely as there is far less Linux targeted malware. Plus the sudo permission model used in Debian like OS means that anything that arrives on your box cannot do anything without your permission, unlike Windows where often the daily user is in fact also the administrator, so scripts downloaded by the user automatically have the permission to install themselves.

heat added just for ubuntu

APU = CPU with onboard graphics for those who aren't aware of the AMD APU chips. It means less power used and longer battery life, plus a half decent graphics card on board.

This will be good enough to get 30fps or more on GTA V at the laptop's resolution (1366 x 768) in medium with the more CPU intensive features turned off and should play most games, even new ones on low to medium.

A decent price. I would bin Ubuntu and put Mint on instead though. Same stuff but with a much more user friendly face.

Unless you're wanting to play games this is a great deal and refreshing to see a laptop pre-installed with Ubuntu rather than the abomination that is Win 8/8.1. Heat added.

there is a trade-in + cashback offer available on other models - http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/up-250-trade-75-cashback-hp-2195934

Did you three turn up on the same bus?

Agree. The guy is a dreamer.

Thanks for sharing.

The A10 looks like a good CPU simillar lifting power to the Intel I5 and the battery use is almost identical. This is a new Laptop (not released!) so it should have the latest perihperal chips. Unbutu is great. I noticed that eBuyer have a Lenovo with £50 cashback from Lenovo for over £289 but if the cashback is paid (mine was paid after 2 months a bit late due to the xmas rush I was told) the price effectively just over £239 but that is an A8 CPU and only 4gig of RAM Lenovo ThinkPad E555 http://www.ebuyer.com/660261-lenovo-thinkpad-e555-laptop-20dh000tuk I think this HP is a nicer machine 8gig ram nicer CPU, 1.5tb vs 0.5tb for the Lenovo

Looks like it has a HDMI output so yes but sounds a bit excessive just for Kodi.

What really annoys me - are people like you who forget this is a bargain forum and not an English grammar class.Considering the amount of deals you've posted in 7 years I'd suggest your talents are obviously wasted on these forums.

Can this be connected directly to a HDTV? (For xbmc purposes)

Are you seriously going to use a £299.99 laptop for gaming?!?

Whoa there! You sound like a Mac user!

Yes, Linux is far less prone to malware etc than Windows. You shouldn't have to worry, but don't assume Unix gives you some sort of cloak of immunity from all things cyber-bad! Ignorance may not result in bliss.

http://www.networkworld.com/article/2858742/linux/a-brief-history-of-linux-malware.html

Is it a refurb?

You could easily get it dual booting Windows 7 if you have a serial number and download a copy. You'd need to install Windows first then Ubuntu back on again after (don't worry about drivers, you can find them online). Or you could just install Windows on it and leave it with that if that's what you need.

How would this cope with an older title like TF2? It used to run fine on my latitude d630 but got worse every year with every 'upgrade' and gave up on it a couple of years ago. But I would be interested in any suggested current gen budget laptops that can handle it.

How the hell is this higher than the minimum spec for GTA V?
You think the CPU processing is equal to a Phenom 9850 or an Intel Q6600, and the grpahics performance is equal or better that a 9800GT or HD 4850?
They are the minimum specs for GTA V.
Dream on...

This laptop has a ULV APU, built for energy efficiency, with a max TDP of 19W... It doesn't even come close to being minimum spec for GTA V.

lappy does have one less letter than laptop......

I know the graphics performance on this is similar to that of a GT720m, and you can barely get around 25FPS on new games with low settings, and that's at 1024x768. This laptop has a higher native res, so anyone expecting 30FPS+ at anything higher than low settings is kidding themselves.

been looking at gaming laptops today. can't find any decent ones for under a grand. got excited when I seen this til I read the comments.

argh voted cold hate anyone who uses the word lappy :neutral_face:

It's actually higher than the minimum spec CPU for GTA V and at that lower res it will play fine. Most of the CPU intensive stuff can be turned off in separate sliders. People seem to underestimate the APUs based on paper specs without seeing them running in real world scenarios.

I had a look but failed miserably to find HP's product page for this laptop. Anyone got a link?

its a good deal but i have to agree about the poor gaming performance. This is not intended for gaming but will be a quick laptop for general computing tasks :smiley:

seems a nice spec I've been looking but week for a laptop under £300 for my son but he fancies windows 10 when it's out so it links up to his Nokia and my Xbox one.
I've only used Ubuntu a couple of times and seems OK, is it possible to install Minecraft on there and something like Sims 4?
I'm thinking of getting him this and if he doesn't like Ubuntu I have a valid windows 7 serial number and is it right that this would let me have windows 10 for free?

...and the processor is awful:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html

I agree. Not a chance in hell of playing GTA V on this thing. The CPU and GPU are so weak it's laughable.

Nice deal, makes me hate my medion decision already... oh well, you win some you lose some :smiley:

Upvoted for having an A10 at this price and Ubuntu. Way to go Linux!

Heat from me for no windows:)

nice yo see a deal on an Ubuntu laptop :smiley: