Visa Debit type card from Travelex. Charges no foreign transaction/conversion fees with the Visa exchange rate.
Sort of like a physical PayPal account as it's linked to your usual debit/credit card - your card will be charged in GBP. Interesting concept IMO and means I can close accounts specifically opened for foreign usage.
Fees apply for UK usage. It's not clear if cash withdrawals with a linked credit card would count as a cash or purchase transaction.
Launched May.
One clarification on twitter: you can only link to Visa or MasterCard, not Amex. https://twitter.com/SupercardUK/status/577582863295647745
- jnm21
Apologies for multiple edits - also confirmation that it will work for foreign websites like Amazon.de: https://twitter.com/SupercardUK/status/576072005042216960
- jnm21
Further cards released
Top comments
gulz
13 Mar 1537#59
I use Nationwide Select Credit Card for foreign currency purchases, and Nationwide Flex Plus (best paid current accounts out there) for cash withdrawals when abroad. So for that reason, I'm out:-)
Let me tell you guys what I know about payment transactions and FX rates, some might find it very interesting.
There are three main parties who take a small chunk of the money you pay to the retailer - the payment processor (normally a subsidiary of a financial institution, a familiar example would be iZettle), Visa, and the card issuing bank. There may be multiple payment processors involved in a given transaction. For the sake of simplicity, I'll describe the below assuming there is just one payment processor.
In a normal UK GBP transaction, the retailer is charged 0.5% - 2% of the transaction cost by the payment processor depending on the negotiation between the two. Visa then charges anywhere between 30% - 50% of this transaction cost to the payment processor to transfer the money from the credit/debit card to the retailers account. A small but fixed amount (generally a few pennies) is paid to the card issuing bank. Consider an example. You buy a £1000 tele from Amazon.co.uk with your Visa card. Since Amazon.co.uk is a large retailer, their payment processor would charge them 0.5% fees = £5 to facilitate this payment. The payment processor will then pay, say 30% of this fee to Visa, 30% of £5 = £1.50. Visa then pays a fixed cost to you card issuing bank, say 5p.
When FX comes into picture, Visa adds a nominal 1% - 3% on top of the wholesale FX rate (this is your the exchange rate quoted on Visa's website) The payment processor still gets the same cut, but the cut for Visa and the issuing bank increases. To give an example, you buy a tele from Amazon.de for €1400. Again, since Amazon.de is a large retailer, their payment processor will charge a small fee or 0.5% = €7. Again, 30% of this fee goes to Visa, i.e 30% of €7 = €2.10. Your issuing bank still gets paid a higher fixed charge of 10p by Visa for helping facilitate an FX transfer. Say the wholesale € to £ rate is 1.401. Visa charges your issuing bank a rate of 1.400, taking a small cut (I'll explain the cut later). If your issuing bank doesn't charge any FX fees, it charges you €1400/1.4 = £1000 for the transaction. If your issuing bank charges a fee (say 2.5%, which is largely the norm), it bumps up the FX rate in its favour by 2.5%, i.e. 1.4 - (2.5% of 1.4) = 1.365, and charges you €1400/1.365 = £1025.64, pocketing the £25.64.
As for the money Visa makes in FX transactions, in the above example, Visa gets £1000 from your bank and has to transfer €1400 (minus costs) to the retailers account. Visa buys €1400 from the wholesale market at a rate of 1.401 paying in £. So Visa pays €1400/1.401 = £999.29. So now it pocketed £1000 - £999.29 = £0.71 as FX fees.
Now let's come to the matter at hand - the Supercard. This is all speculation since I don't know of a similar model that exists (paypal is different since it is its own payment processor). It might be the case that TravelEx, who is the issuing bank, has negotiated a better deal with Visa for these transactions (think about it, TravelEx is a huge FX broker, I am sure it has sorted out some deal with Visa to take a cut of the transaction fees that Visa makes, and in return provide a favourable wholesale rate to Visa?). The credit/debit card issuing bank gets paid as per a normal UK GBP transaction.
If my understanding is correct, looks like this model might be sustainable and other FX brokers (ICE, etc) will be coming up with similar models.
Hot Deal!
blackaqua
12 Mar 1537#22
I'm sorry sir, we only take landscape cards here
Ross81
12 Mar 153#1
Will UK banks charge for the debit transaction? That's the key. For example you can walk into a travel agent, buy currency, have your debit card debited in sterling and some banks charge you.
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Ross81
12 Mar 153#1
Will UK banks charge for the debit transaction? That's the key. For example you can walk into a travel agent, buy currency, have your debit card debited in sterling and some banks charge you.
blackaqua to Ross81
12 Mar 151#2
Very good point.
jackvdbuk to Ross81
12 Mar 151#4
Unlikely as its stating it will be a domestic transaction I.e one in the UK.
Sounds good this , will think .. Though Metrobank offer the same with no fees in the UK of course.
kneale81 to Ross81
12 Mar 151#45
The OFT banned banks from charging customers a fee for buying foreign currency on a debit card a few years ago.
burtiec
12 Mar 15#3
Looks promising. Would be good to have Visa alternative to my Halifax Clarity reward card.
I imagine if you link it to a Credit card and use it for ATM withdrawal you ought to get it interest free too.
cleverguy12 to burtiec
12 Mar 15#19
nationwide select credit card is a great Visa credit card with commission free use abroad, it uses the Visa exchange rate
AR2012
12 Mar 15#5
and like paypal with give you a poor exchange rate to make them some money. Link to engadget
H1 HWK
12 Mar 15#6
Does sound really good, signed up for the launch.....just wondering how they make any money off this. Maybe they skim a bit of the bank vs retail FX rate? Anyway sounds like a useful travel card,
Cheers OP
frankyb
12 Mar 15#7
Not like PayPal, it says they charge the Visa exchange rate which means they won't be making any margin on the FX. Seems a good deal to me.
Zak809 to frankyb
12 Mar 15#36
Have read anywhere on the supercard website that the exchange rate will be set by visa?
jasee to frankyb
13 Mar 15#48
But no better than the Halifax credit card ISTM?
Visa (debit) use more or less the same bad exchange rates as all the others
LesD
12 Mar 15#8
I've been pondering on this for nearly an hour and I still can't see the catch!!! Apart from the fact it's Travelex!
socrates28
12 Mar 15#9
Limited amount of cards for free - might as well apply anyway
rogparki
12 Mar 152#10
I'm sure there will be a catch somewhere ,possibly Exchange rates -but bears examination - A Tentative "Hot" from me -must look into it when I have the time .
drunk1
12 Mar 15#11
Yeah signed up, nothing to lose in guess. Could work well with the Halifax Clarity.
LesD to drunk1
12 Mar 15#12
Not sure that's the idea. Clarity has no charges - just charges interest on cash withdrawals. It'll still be a cash withdrawal I guess so will still attract the interest. This comes into its own when there ARE charges on the base card.
1VR46
12 Mar 152#13
Doesn't look like that's gonna fit in my wallet
drunk1
12 Mar 15#14
Comment
I just mean as it's Visa and not MasterCard. If it's fee free it's a good back up. Only registered interest so will check it out further once I need to apply or not for full T&Cs.
rogparki
12 Mar 15#15
I suppose it may be that any spend is treated as a cash advance ,attracting interest ? haven't looked into it yet .
LesD to rogparki
12 Mar 15#31
Presumably not if it's linked to a DEBIT card. So this could actually replace a Clarity card (if you only use it for cash withdrawals) and save the interest charges.
the porter
12 Mar 15#16
So is this good for Amazon.de purchases or do you still need say a clarity card ?
dmister
12 Mar 15#17
Sounds great - hopefully there is no catch!
Mark300ZX
12 Mar 15#18
Will cash withdrawals still affect your credit rating if completed abroad?
definition to Mark300ZX
12 Mar 15#23
Since when do cash withdrawals affect credit ratings?
Seems almost too good to be true so far! My only query that is unaddressed on the website is how cash advances work? If I travel to the U.S, and I want to deposit a chunk of money directly from my 'Supercard' to an account there, is there any charges?
rolo28
12 Mar 15#21
Interesting and I'm interested.
blackaqua
12 Mar 1537#22
I'm sorry sir, we only take landscape cards here
LittleRedRidingHood to blackaqua
10 Jul 15#490
I came here to re-read this comment haha. This is by far the funniest comment on here.
djmpne
12 Mar 15#24
Can't see the catch either! I have a pre load card with travelex at the moment and have had no issues. With the euro so weak at the moment it might be better to preload at the current rate of about 1.40 euro per pound though.....
rolo28
12 Mar 15#25
So basically as there are no charges when used abroad, it will just debit your registered UK bank card at the current exchange rate? -am I right?
pretty smart idea possibly.
notatestuser to rolo28
13 Mar 15#107
Yes.
Shaydog
12 Mar 15#26
The 'JUNK' button is never far away if it doesn't work out...and I got an itchy trigger finger.
veedubjai
12 Mar 15#27
Registered. This will do for a backup overseas spend card.
bigurty
12 Mar 151#28
I have been using Caxton FX cards for yeara for international travelling. No fees what so ever when abroad.
jnm21 to bigurty
13 Mar 15#97
Yes, but they sting you when you load the card - exchange rate is not the interbank/MC/Visa rate.
Credit card cash withdrawals apparently are a sign of financial disorganisation to lenders. Same is true of payday loans [washes mouth out with soap] - they are death to mortgage applications for up to 2 years depending on the lender (6 months & no more than 1 in 12 months being more common).
Valid to point out that they are Gibraltar based, however I would not see that as all bad - a very shrewd country; they have a national surplus (rather than national debit) & are reducing income tax as a result - not may economies in Europe can say that.
blackaqua
12 Mar 15#29
For credit cards. It makes you seem desperate. I don't think it's a large factor but may be best to avoid for a mortgage for instance.
gorgo2015
12 Mar 15#30
I am suspicious. No terms and conditions. Only promises. They speak like politicians. I have never trusted Travelex.
LesD
12 Mar 15#32
That's me dead in the water then! I've been using a Clarity card for overseas cash for some years now! I better have a word with Experian.
There will absolutely be cash advance fees from credit cards.
Timmylad1975
12 Mar 151#35
I use kalixa card when I'm abroad. You can load it for free in the uk from your bank account and it charges no foreign transaction fees when used abroad. It also offers market leading exchange rates much better than any bank or building society.
The card costs £6.95 one off charge and they also text you every time you use the card with the amount and remaining balance.
gari189 to Timmylad1975
12 Mar 15#40
Had a look at the kalixa card but they charge a fee (£2.25) for ATM withdrawals.....
As for the Travelex card - might be okay but if they are based in Gibralter who are they regulated by and how reliable/trustworthy are they likely to be? Think I will give this a miss.
Bugsico to Timmylad1975
13 Mar 15#76
You're very wise Grasshopper. Ihave used Kalixa for some time now, and have no problems with it. I'm suprised more people don't use it.
virgo17 to Timmylad1975
13 Mar 15#78
Isn't there a £2.25 fee for each international ATM withdrawal with Kalixa?
fransk
12 Mar 15#37
Definitely there, in the faq section - "Supercard processes transactions using the Visa Exchange Rate, with no commission or foreign-exchange fees added on."
mmickk
12 Mar 15#38
lHow does it work?
All transactions charged to Supercard are processed by your bank as domestic payments, rather than foreign ones – saving you bank roaming charges whether you’re in Bali or Berlin. To get started, add at least one of your existing credit or debit cards to your in-app Supercard mobile wallet - you can add up to 5. Once your Supercard arrives in the post you’re ready to spend! Your bank card is only charged when you use your Supercard, so you don’t have to preload your card with foreign currency, or buy any foreign currency upfront. Supercard processes transactions using the Visa Exchange Rate, with no commission or foreign-exchange fees added on.
mmickk
12 Mar 15#39
I have checked visa exchange rate today its Euro 1.41 against mastercard rate euro 1.42 which Halifax clarity uses so its only 1 cent less than Halifax clarity card. So this is a great deal.
gorgo2015
12 Mar 15#41
Ok, I've signed up. Hope I won't regret it.
thelakeys1
12 Mar 15#42
Great timing. I was just about to open a Metro bank current account for travel money. Saves having to run a separate bank account.
stek2010
12 Mar 15#43
Anyone know if this works for online foreign transactions? e.g. I buy some goods from amazon.com and my bank whacks a £2 foreign transaction fee on... seems a way to avoid?
speculatrix
12 Mar 15#44
I've used FairFX for years.
Pros: good exchange rates, lack of fees
Cons: you can only top up the card once a day, and if you have friends and family cards, you can only make one transfer a day without having to contact customer service (because, so they say, extra transactions get flagged as potential fraud).
phiras
12 Mar 15#46
Signed up. Will wait for launch to decide whether it's too good to be true or not. Been using FairFX to now. Thanks op!
wacko911
13 Mar 15#47
Visa credit transaction gives the card issuers a kickback percentage of each transaction. I wonder if this 'debit' card charges the retailer the 'credit' rate and hence travelx make their money.
Transfer £500 in and then straight back out to keep it active.
pantaiema
13 Mar 15#50
What we see here is that people are writing theory which could be right but could also be wrong. We will need to hear testimony from people who have used it and compare it with the result of other well known specialist CC or DC.
Here is direct quotation:
- Link your existing debit or credit cards to Supercard through the app
- Pay with Supercard
- Use Supercard to avoid foreign-transaction fees when you spend money abroad.
Where is here saying that they are using "VISA GLOBAL exchange rate" .
Yes "avoid foreign-transaction fees is stated clearly", but they might be using their own conversion rate. If this is the case, it will undoubtedly, it will be lower than "VISA GLOBAL exchange rate" for very obvious reason.
Knowing the Travelex business background I pretty much doubt that they are using VISA GLOBAL exchange rate".
VISA GLOBAL exchange rate" is the rate you will get if you are using the specialist no fee for non-sterling transaction to be used abroad for CC (e.g clarity card, Santander Zero) or DC.( e.g Metro bank to be used in the EU, N&P, Santander Zero).
Other possibility: when you withdraw the cash, it will be tagged as Cash Advances and you will be paying the fee for this.
But too good to be true could still turn to be true but we will need to hear testimony from people who has used it not theory or assumption ....
Sniper_Monk
13 Mar 15#51
Open a metro bank account and use your debit card for free in Europe! Voila.
scubascuba3
13 Mar 15#52
I have concerns:
I'd need confirmation that it's definitely the official visa fx rate, the blurb isn't concrete enough for me.
My bank account which I use to link there isn't additional charges applied by them. This point needs to be in the FAQs
MBarky
13 Mar 15#53
Seems like it's definitely the official visa exchange rate. Mentioned on the website and also found this article:
I can't see it stating anywhere that it uses the Visa Global Exchange rate. Op care to clarify?
Mark300ZX
13 Mar 15#55
Are there any advantages to this over using the Halifax Clarity Card, apart from cash withdrawals?
scubascuba3 to Mark300ZX
13 Mar 15#57
It's a good alternative in case you need both cards or need more cash withdrawn in a day.
Also as this card is linked to your debit card as an option you shouldn't need to make transfers to cover the cash withdrawal like Clarity.
courshor
13 Mar 15#56
link doesn't work for me
MBarky
13 Mar 15#58
Relevant extract below:
"You can connect up to five of your own accounts, travel to a far-away destination and it'll automatically deduct your purchases using Visa's own exchange rate."
Seems pretty clear to me.
gulz
13 Mar 1537#59
I use Nationwide Select Credit Card for foreign currency purchases, and Nationwide Flex Plus (best paid current accounts out there) for cash withdrawals when abroad. So for that reason, I'm out:-)
Let me tell you guys what I know about payment transactions and FX rates, some might find it very interesting.
There are three main parties who take a small chunk of the money you pay to the retailer - the payment processor (normally a subsidiary of a financial institution, a familiar example would be iZettle), Visa, and the card issuing bank. There may be multiple payment processors involved in a given transaction. For the sake of simplicity, I'll describe the below assuming there is just one payment processor.
In a normal UK GBP transaction, the retailer is charged 0.5% - 2% of the transaction cost by the payment processor depending on the negotiation between the two. Visa then charges anywhere between 30% - 50% of this transaction cost to the payment processor to transfer the money from the credit/debit card to the retailers account. A small but fixed amount (generally a few pennies) is paid to the card issuing bank. Consider an example. You buy a £1000 tele from Amazon.co.uk with your Visa card. Since Amazon.co.uk is a large retailer, their payment processor would charge them 0.5% fees = £5 to facilitate this payment. The payment processor will then pay, say 30% of this fee to Visa, 30% of £5 = £1.50. Visa then pays a fixed cost to you card issuing bank, say 5p.
When FX comes into picture, Visa adds a nominal 1% - 3% on top of the wholesale FX rate (this is your the exchange rate quoted on Visa's website) The payment processor still gets the same cut, but the cut for Visa and the issuing bank increases. To give an example, you buy a tele from Amazon.de for €1400. Again, since Amazon.de is a large retailer, their payment processor will charge a small fee or 0.5% = €7. Again, 30% of this fee goes to Visa, i.e 30% of €7 = €2.10. Your issuing bank still gets paid a higher fixed charge of 10p by Visa for helping facilitate an FX transfer. Say the wholesale € to £ rate is 1.401. Visa charges your issuing bank a rate of 1.400, taking a small cut (I'll explain the cut later). If your issuing bank doesn't charge any FX fees, it charges you €1400/1.4 = £1000 for the transaction. If your issuing bank charges a fee (say 2.5%, which is largely the norm), it bumps up the FX rate in its favour by 2.5%, i.e. 1.4 - (2.5% of 1.4) = 1.365, and charges you €1400/1.365 = £1025.64, pocketing the £25.64.
As for the money Visa makes in FX transactions, in the above example, Visa gets £1000 from your bank and has to transfer €1400 (minus costs) to the retailers account. Visa buys €1400 from the wholesale market at a rate of 1.401 paying in £. So Visa pays €1400/1.401 = £999.29. So now it pocketed £1000 - £999.29 = £0.71 as FX fees.
Now let's come to the matter at hand - the Supercard. This is all speculation since I don't know of a similar model that exists (paypal is different since it is its own payment processor). It might be the case that TravelEx, who is the issuing bank, has negotiated a better deal with Visa for these transactions (think about it, TravelEx is a huge FX broker, I am sure it has sorted out some deal with Visa to take a cut of the transaction fees that Visa makes, and in return provide a favourable wholesale rate to Visa?). The credit/debit card issuing bank gets paid as per a normal UK GBP transaction.
If my understanding is correct, looks like this model might be sustainable and other FX brokers (ICE, etc) will be coming up with similar models.
Hot Deal!
scubascuba3 to gulz
13 Mar 15#62
So, based on your experience (assuming I link to my santander current account) will santander or similar bank charge for processing these transactions?
MBarky to gulz
13 Mar 15#65
Great post Gulz - thanks for the detail. One point on the Visa rate - it seems like it's quite a lot better than 1-3% markup. Euro rate is 1.409 on Visa today and the wholesale rate is 1.411 so it's basically a negligible difference to the wholesale rate (0.1%). Not sure what that looks like over time but certainly indicates the difference is quite a lot lower than 1-3%.
aembleton to gulz
13 May 15#203
How do cashback cards make money then? Do Visa/Mastercard/Amex provide some extra % kickback to the issuing bank? Otherwise, the larger the transaction, the more they would lose.
rossjamesparker
13 Mar 15#60
I am going to look into this. If you have a UK rewards card (like Amex BA PP) that charges for non-UK use, you could presumably still channel foreign spend to that card via Supercard. Thus, your point boosting potential is increased, especially if you are, like me, a frequent traveller. Even if Supercard didn't allow you to rebill to AmEx, you could rebill to something like the MBNA Miles & More Visa, and take your points that way.
Slightly off topic, I think I will stick to Halifax Clarity Rewards CC for cash withdrawals, as I used it everywhere from China to Ivory Coast with no issues whatsoever. You can even avoid the interest if you are diligent enough to pay off the card via online banking the same day.
grazie
13 Mar 15#61
Cheers OP, nice one.
HermesTM
13 Mar 15#63
plus they could make money by debiting quickly and paying slowly?
Petetobin to HermesTM
13 Mar 15#92
No the issuers settle with the schemes very quickly. The only revenue a prepaid issuer has is interchange, fees and FX markup. I think the interchange rates are higher on cross border than domestic which is being reduced to 0.3% for credit so this is an interchange arbitrage play. Not sure how they will manage the risk though has no one to my knowledge is doing back to back authorisations due to the response time window.
golo83
13 Mar 15#64
but isnt the mark up within the buy/sell rates set by visa?
Helpful
13 Mar 15#66
Some providers charge a fee for monies put on the card. Does anyone know if that applies to this card? If not fee, for paying, this deal should be VERY hot
definition
13 Mar 15#67
New foreign exchange transaction regulations are being brought in, stuff being capped I think so the big boys can't make as much money anymore. A little like how the EU capped roaming rates. This card I think is a response to that.
gulz
13 Mar 15#68
They shouldn't, since it is a local GBP currency transaction for them, they will be completely sheilded from the FX transaction.
Slash
13 Mar 15#69
I'm thinking this would be useful for overseas business purchases. There is no free business credit card with 0 overseas transaction fees. So if you use this to link to your business bank account, you would be able to save on that. However, would it be complicated when balancing your books if you use this card?
gulz
13 Mar 15#70
Thanks!
Agreed, if you get the rates from the likes of xe.com, oanda.com, etc, you get the mid mark price (not the bid or ask), so the difference appears very small. However, it is the bid/ask that Visa pays to the FX brokers. Moreover, the FX market is completely OTC (regulations were introduced after the 2008 crisis to put some controls over these and make these more of an exchange styled markets, but given the nature of FX, it is very difficult to completely standardise these markets), so two parties negotiate over the phone - so there's always some leeway in fixing the prices.
ndavis59
13 Mar 15#71
Halifax Clarity Mastercard, no ATM fees except those levied by ATM operator plus money taken out charged as cash advance at low rate. Also long period to pay for card purchases
scubascuba3 to ndavis59
13 Mar 15#79
Clarity is very good, I have one, but interest is charged at about 12% on cash withdrawals. Using this Supercard avoids the interest / hassle of paying money off to avoid interest.
impgrrrl
13 Mar 15#72
Wish we'd known about this a little earlier. As it is we've gone with an AA (as in The AA) prepaid currency card + Halifax Clarity + foregin cash money for our recent trip (the AA one was the best/only zero fees card we could find for both spending and atm withdrawals). Halifax are a bit tight on their credit limits though!
Donk1979 to impgrrrl
13 May 151#205
We use Caxton and that has no charges for that use
Ranjankmv
13 Mar 15#73
Looks promising., I dont think there will be any charges on the card usage but what rate of conversion we get would be important in this case., If the conversion rate is low then it would ofset the savings you make in the charges.,
ssc1
13 Mar 15#74
looks good thanks op. pre-ordered!
bojangles
13 Mar 15#75
COLD
Travelex give some of the worst exchange rates around...
Much better cards out there, even if they do require topping up.
FairFX for example gives 11 cents more on the Euro & Dollar compared to Travelex.
jackvdbuk to bojangles
13 Mar 15#84
Have you read any of the thread? It is the visa rate.
adi0604
13 Mar 15#77
Backed by Travelex so hardly raises any legitimate issues..
jsoap
13 Mar 15#80
Not quite that bad. Its 12% per year, so if you pay off your bill at the latest time each month, it will be a max of 1.5%.
But you are right, it is a minor hassle.
It's a pity that Metro now restrict free ATM withdrawals to EU countries, so this does look like a possible replacement.
peggy79
13 Mar 15#81
Just signed up and waiting for the terms & cons.
The point is exchange rates actually.
gulz
13 Mar 15#82
Very curious to see if TravelEx will run a credit check...
herby247
13 Mar 15#83
Have your spending money set aside in your bank account, when you return from your holiday (usually 2 weeks) pay off in full, you will incur very little interest.
Tried and tested MANY times!
If you cant afford to clear it, flip it to a no fee 0% balance transfer card, jobs a good un.
GastonGrimsdyke
13 Mar 15#85
This may be a silly question but does application leave a credit footprint?
helloooo
13 Mar 15#86
I'm thinking of going around Europe a bit over the summer, is it worth getting this card for this or should I just change my money before I go?
Thanks :smile:
chepo to helloooo
13 Mar 15#95
With the Euro at a seven year low against the pound, if you can afford buy some Euros now. This Travelex card will use Visas exchange rates and by the time summer comes the Euro could well be back in the 1.20s meaning your holiday will be that little more expensive - having said that the Euro could weaken more. Bare in mind with what's happening in Greece and the fact we have a general election in May the exchange rates are more than likely going to see change.
kaych
13 Mar 15#87
this seems like a good idea. just out of curiosity, if anyone knows. Does it work if I link this supercard to my debit card, and I withdraw cash abroad... this would be really useful since metrobank scrapped the free worldwide cash withdrawal..
rojih66
13 Mar 15#88
it just pre-order? so we need to wait for april to really register this card?
Turquoise
13 Mar 15#89
I usually take a reasonable amount of sterling when I go abroad, plus debit and credit cards as back-up. I always inform my card companies when I'll be out of the country and give them my mobile number in case of any queries. It might be useful to have a card like this which simply took the money from my linked account as and when needed but I'm confused about the App. I don't have a smart phone and have no wish to get one so there is no way I could have an App except on my tablet. What is this actually for?
Eclairs
13 Mar 15#90
can you use it for online purchases in non-GBP currencies ?
rhinopaul
13 Mar 15#91
There are a lot of too good to be true comments.Without knowing the full sp Its hard to say on this but the same was said for Transferwise and thats an awesome way to transfer internationally and saves loads against bank charges.
monogram
13 Mar 15#93
Might aswell just open a metro bank account or get a clarity credit card. plus you won't get any charge back protection with this.
pantaiema to monogram
13 Mar 15#108
Did you ever get Section 75 protection for cash withdrawal/advancement using credit card ????
Keep in mind people are using this mainly for foreign cash withdrawal. For non-sterling purchase there are already a few zero fee credit card available in the UK.
monogram
13 Mar 15#94
it definitely does NOT offer market leading exchange rates! ukash, fairfx, caxton are all better.
buglawton
13 Mar 15#96
"scheduled to launch in April 2015" pity the ms could have used it on her trip 1st April
jnm21
13 Mar 15#98
Yes, equally we could be getting 1.50€ to the pound soon - no one can know. If you look (e.g. on Yahoo! Finance) at the €:£ over the last 2 years, the Euro has lost 20% of its value over the 2 years. Unless you are a professional trader, buying currency early based on the rate is nothing short of gambling - the Euro could slump overnight - your £1000 worth could be worth £950 or less tomorrow - personally I think the pound is more stable & I would wait.
breeville
13 Mar 15#99
would this be the best card to use in the UK but when buying abroad? I buy from the states and china frequently and mbna and amex chage extra for currency conversion. is there a card that I can use direct that can charge me in the converted currency instantly and not charge me a percentage charge on top? I wont be travelling abroad - I am a cash only person but use cards for online purchasing
pantaiema to breeville
13 Mar 15#105
If this is non sterling purchase you are after (NOT FOR CASH WITHDRAWAL) there are already a few Credit card that give you the same/similar exchange rate with this Nationwide Select, Capital One is just a few to name.
I like the idea that you don't need to load it. I checked another one like this and any money u load stays with the card unless you cancel it. I go to the US in may!! I hope this comes out by then. with this card you wont get any extra changes if you don't use it over 12 months etc.
wakkaday
13 Mar 15#101
would this work iwht amazon eu stores?
adnaan_23
13 Mar 15#102
I think it's only prudent to reserve judgement on this card until it has actually launched and some more detailed T & Cs and exchange rate information is available, however I do have a feeling this sort of concept was way overdue and almost inevitable. It's a pretty clever way of developing a hybrid card which combines the security and convenience of a prepaid card with the flexibility of a credit card. If the exchange rate is as good as they seem to suggest, this could very handy!
definition
13 Mar 15#103
There was just a bit of confusion over terms. Cash withdrawal normally refers to bank accounts (if I'm not mistaken) whereas people tend to use the term cash advance to refer to taking money out on credit cards. That's why I thought your comment was a bit odd.
Turquoise
13 Mar 151#104
The main advantage I can see is that the money is only taken from your account when it is needed, rather than the card having to be loaded first, so as long as your linked account has enough in it you neither run out nor have money left on it which you have difficulty transferring back.
notatestuser
13 Mar 15#106
Good choice, I have the same cc. But if you only use the free overseas cash withdrawals perk of the paid current account then it'd make sense to use the supercard in lieu of paying the fee. Though it'd be a small saving and I do see why one might stick with nationwide's offering (they're awesome).
krizzo
13 Mar 151#109
Visa currency exchange rates are much worse than mastercard!
Get a halifax clarity card or any other mastercard with no foreign transaction and cash fees.
mmickk to krizzo
14 Mar 15#112
If your spending a million maybe but less than 1 cent to the pound is hardly much worse!
collo
13 Mar 15#110
Cheers
Petetobin
14 Mar 15#111
They may have taken out a great position on Euros and are going to make their money on FX arbitrage.
Malabus
14 Mar 15#113
Just take your debit card ... hope to see these pre-paid cards wither away for eternity.
blackaqua to Malabus
14 Mar 152#116
You've missed the point of this card
jnm21 to Malabus
14 Mar 15#118
Ok so you would rather pay say £1 + 2.5% (i.e. about 4.5% on €80 which is my favourite withdrawal as you can't get a €50 note) rather than use this 'InstantPay' card (you don't pre-pay, you pay at the time).
PrePay cards may be poor value generally, but there are ways to use them efficiently (take £5 to £10 cashback on a €200 loaded Caxton € card with no ATM fees; your rate just got a lot better)! :smiley:
monogram
14 Mar 15#114
No you never got section 75 protection for a cash advance. But then again, I never actually said you did?????
It's a bit of a generalisation to say that people are using this for foreign cash withdrawal. What about people that can't get a credit card, or dont want a credit card?
krizzo
14 Mar 15#115
Actually I have checked it against USD and you would be better off with a Visa! Its worth checking which one is better for which currency so you can choose the more favourable one.
If you look at GBP/PLN MC: 1/5.90 VIS: 1/5.80.
If you spend 100quid for the extra 10PLN you can get a 4 pack of beer now that's something lol
jnm21
14 Mar 15#117
Was going to like that, but it is a comment of 2 halves; how anyone can say a 'bank' who has adverts openly mocking other banks for charging foreign transaction fees to 'pay for the shareholders bubbly' then a few years later introduces them themselves is awesome bemuses me.
notatestuser
14 Mar 15#119
Well clearly I'm missing something as I don't pay forex transaction fees on the select credit card.
jnm21
14 Mar 15#120
Nor do I on my Nationwide CC, hence I still use it - when they introduced the fees on their debit card, they lost at least 3 members of my family who used them as their main current account. Santander have a little publicised option of using Santander cash machines in Spain fee free (subject to funding £500/mth) - I will be trying the supercard & that at the same time to see which actually gives the better rate - they should be the same as they are both Visa.
Malabus
14 Mar 15#121
Take out one big ATM cash transaction(money that you will need)....Just one.....you don't need this pre-paid card rip off.
jnm21
15 Mar 151#122
You are missing the point BIG STYLE - there are NO FEES with this card, which is INSTANT PAY rather than PREPAY.
So you would recommend taking out like 500€, which would be a security risk, may even involve €100 notes (which most of the places I frequent would not take), on my recent holiday would have devalued by over 5% during my holiday & still cost me over 2.8% in fees on my Nationwide Debit Card.
Let me think; with this Supercard, if true to the promises, being charged at the same time I could take out 20€ or 500€ as I choose with NO FEE.
You need to take your head out of the sand & stop your childish 'pre-paid card rip off' rants.
To summarise; Supercard, if true to the promises, charges your normal card at the same time with NO FEE - possibly saving up to 7% fees (on €20). No brainer! If everyone took up this offer (rather than wanting to pay fees to their bank), it would be profitable for Travelex (making it a fixture) & would likely force the banks to remove the huge fees.
scubascuba3
15 Mar 15#123
The flaw in your plan is depending on country and bank there may well be a fee by the atm bank for each cash withdrawal so you'd still want to keep withdrawals higher. For example in Thailand generally the fee is 180 baht (£3.60) for each withdrawal.
jnm21
15 Mar 15#124
I have never been out of Europe, so never experienced that, but point taken. Minimising the other fees would be even more important (£3.60 is wince-worthy; adding another 2.5+% would make me cry)!
Malabus
15 Mar 15#125
I very doubt you get attractive currency exchange rates. Just makes more sense to take cash with you and change at bank at your location : better rates, peice of mind and easy.
rolo28
15 Mar 151#126
malabus I am sorry to say but it's now official "you just don't get it"
OMG - you are really showing that you don't have a clue! I know enough to laugh at your suggestions, but others may think you are giving good advice! Take cash, get mugged & holiday over (I have seen it happen to fellow travellers)!
For anyone wanting to travel cost effectively, unless you have one of they very limited Debit Card options with no fees (Metro, Peterborough, etc.) then, if this supercard does what it says on the tin, it is gold dust. Back it up with a true prepaid card like Caxton (using cashback to uplift the rate on the minimum load). The Halifax Clarity CC is another option, but research the effect of CC cash advances on your credit rating first.
Malabus
17 Mar 15#129
Quite saddening to see a lot of dumb travellers on their jollies this summer.
jnm21
17 Mar 151#130
I thought that was harsh - now liked! :smiley:
Libertas
17 Mar 151#131
Question:
Live in London.
If I purchase an item from one of the other european Amazon sites, e.g Amazon.de or amazon.es, to deliver to me in the UK, and I pay directly in euro's (rather than using the amazon to do it for me) - would this be classed as a domestic transaction on the supercard (50p charge in faqs), or would it be overhead free?
jnm21 to Libertas
17 Mar 15#132
It should be a foreign transaction & thus fee free. Generally it will be the currency that decides.
I am really struggling to see where the profit will come from this - too good to be true keeps playing in my head...
jnm21
17 Mar 15#133
Don't suppose that you have heard anything more from them? This seems too good to be true, so would like to try it out before our Autumn trip (we go out of season in true HUKD style).
Petetobin
18 Mar 15#134
Do you have evidence that foreign cash advances on a CC effect your credit rating? I kind of get your logic but I have never seen this on a bureau report before. What is material is whether you are revolving a balance or not but a cash advance, although you pay interest, does not make you a revolver.
blackaqua
18 Mar 15#135
This should be listed on your report in the monthly breakdown for your cc
Petetobin
18 Mar 15#136
What happens if you take out the money and you have nothing in your bank account?
jnm21 to Petetobin
19 Mar 15#137
If your bank allows it, you will go into an (approved or unapproved) overdraft, if your bank says no, you won't get money (my reading & interpretation of it).
Petetobin
19 Mar 15#138
Not sure you can technically do a back to back authorisation due to the number of hops involved.
jnm21 to Petetobin
20 Mar 15#139
I agree - I think it is difficult to achieve, but how else can you read: "Your bank card is only charged when you use your Supercard" & "Supercard works as if it were a pre-paid card (you can use it anywhere you see the Visa Brand Mark), but because of the clever technology we use there's no need to pre-load your card. Supercard links to your existing debit and credit cards so you can spend money abroad without being charged foreign-transaction fees. You won't be able to use your Supercard for purchases or cash withdrawals if you have no linked cards, or available credit on your linked cards."
Either our suspicions or their confidence in their "clever technology" are misplaced. Based on them being right, I want to know how it decides which of your normal cards to charge?
GastonGrimsdyke
20 Mar 15#140
Do any of you bright sparks out there know whether applying leaves a credit footprint?
jnm21 to GastonGrimsdyke
20 Mar 15#141
Not sure how to read that "bright sparks" reference, but no, they do not specifically state if they will perform a credit check. I would suggest that when applications open, they will make this clear. Generally with pre-paid cards they do a "soft search" which is visible to the person, but not creditors & is for address checking only. See https://www.ukash.com/en-gb/support/faqs/?cat=1527&id=9550 for example.
That could be misleading - the main method of a 'Know Your Customer' check is surely a check with a credit agency (this is what one prepaid travel card does, as I evidenced above), so better to explain in detail that it will be recorded on your file with the credit reference agency, but be hidden from any third party (i.e. any potential creditors) & thus have no effect on your perceived credit worthiness, rather than have someone see it on their credit report & panic.
Petetobin
21 Mar 151#145
Yes you're right, credit bureau data has many usages these days which has nothing to do with credit. You can see the searches were done but they are not returned to anyone doing a credit check.
Savedotmoney
1 Apr 15#147
Anyone have a better date for when this is coming? I am leaving the UK on 10th May so ideally would love to have it well before then.
ftbf444 to Savedotmoney
10 Apr 15#148
Same situation here - still waiting for the launch
Henlans
16 Apr 15#149
I noticed that they changed the terms now.
If you're successful in getting onto the Supercard pilot, we'll be in touch as we get closer to launch, to let you know what you need to do next. Demand is expected to be very high and supply during the pilot is limited, so if we can't get a Supercard to you immediately, we'll be sure to keep you in the loop and let you know when we can.
IlesKevinPC
28 Apr 15#150
Has anybody heard back from this yet?
gorgo2015 to IlesKevinPC
28 Apr 15#152
Nope.
craigyhay
28 Apr 15#151
ive not heard owt yet
cuffy
2 May 15#153
Was meant to launch in April ....... I like probably many was hoping for this by now to use.
After the initial fanfare I think that there will be a quite a few disappointed with the apparent delay; and does nothing but potential reputational damage to the company. Surely it wouldn't have been hard for them them to send an email keeping people up to date.
IlesKevinPC to cuffy
3 May 15#154
I have tried emailing them, i have tried sending them a twitter message.
If something is too good to be true it usually is!
I now have myself a Post Office Card that will do..
LesD
4 May 15#155
"...and it's all gone quiet over there,
I said it's all gone quiet over there,
It's all gone quiet, all gone quiet, all gone quiet over there!"
Thanks. But does the app assume you already have the card in hand? Or will it perform a fresh registration? What was the point of the pre-registration if anybody can download the app? What am I missing here?
superspod
12 May 15#165
I've registered using the app as well. No idea what they are up to but I figure two registrations must be better than one.
D_J_1
12 May 152#166
The App assumes you don't have a card and you reregister. The App takes further details off you like a postal address and other personal details etc. The App then states it will send you a card, which you can link to a Credit or Debit card within the App once your Supercard has arrived. I have now received an email to say my Supercard will arrive in 2 to 4 business days.
At this stage it appears there was no advantage to registering in advance.
gorgo2015
12 May 15#167
Any chance you can copy and paste the Terms and Conditions here? That would be awesome.
Bogditzy
12 May 15#168
Can't register, I get "We've been unable to verify your identity" bla bla :/
heidetto
12 May 15#169
I get "We've been unable to verify your identity" as well
cuffy
12 May 15#170
I can't find an entry with Apple Store ... anyone else?
paulmuchmore
12 May 15#171
Found the app and have applied - have tweeted them to find out when to expect the card to come through - it doesn't appear to have officially launched yet!
shuo23
12 May 15#172
Applied through android app, says on the screen that it will be sent to me soon. No confirmation email yet.
Mark300ZX
12 May 15#173
Does anyone know if this will be using the same exchange rate as the Halifax One Card?
shuo23 to Mark300ZX
13 May 15#175
no. this is visa, halifax is mastercard. slight rate difference.
jnm21
12 May 15#174
Also t'd off at no email - I had even checked the play store this morning! Nasty!
Did you manage to apply? I get an error...is the service live yet?
Flashard
13 May 15#178
Applied for using app and card on the way. This could be just what I'm looking for as I usually spend most of my time overseas. Thanks OP.
micnur
13 May 15#179
Interesting
Smog
13 May 15#180
I applied, but the only confirmation I see is in the app. Did anyone receive an email?
tomtomato to Smog
13 May 15#190
Yes, registered via the app this morning, and received an email confirmation right away. Card is on its way.
patrick_000
13 May 15#181
I just get registration failed when using the app - no info as to why or who I should call.
Bendown to patrick_000
13 May 152#184
Me too, never got back to me and I pre registered and now this problem. not very impressed.
hasan6958
13 May 15#182
I will be traveling to Canada in the very near future and looking at my bank online, if I was to withdraw money there I would be charged 2.5% plus £1.25 I think it is. By getting this card, would it let me link that card (is a Visa) and then make withdrawals paying purely exchange rate and no fees? And could I pay for items over the counter too in say a shop?
EDIT: Downloaded the app and filled in the application and does say the card is on the way. Presume people will say it in here so will see when it arrives. From what I've read online seems like a perfect solution to spending abroad so will have to see :smiley:
zedlor to hasan6958
13 May 15#189
No I believe you still get charged ATM fees, but buying items with the card over the counter shouldn't wield any charges.
zippypants
13 May 15#183
applied said the card is on it way
ltickett
13 May 15#185
The website is down and the app isn't working. Doesn't exactly fill me with confidence :smiley:
scubascuba3
13 May 15#186
It does seem a bit cowboy at the moment
rachelandgromit
13 May 15#187
I have the N and P account and have used it worldwide for about 4 years now. Its brilliant!
trickydickygolf to rachelandgromit
13 May 151#243
Agree...use the N and P debit card for cash withdrawal and Halifax clarity credit card for purchases abroad...no charges for either!
jnm21
13 May 15#188
I had no end of trouble with the app - from saying check internet connection (when on 12Mb BB) to something went wrong try later, but at about the 20th try, I got it to register & looks like I did get an email confirmation within about 10 minutes. Good luck everyone.
EDIT: LMAO - they just emailed me to say live & start downloading - 8 hours after I registered!
wrdavies
13 May 15#191
It appears that the registration limit may now have been reached.
gwapenut to wrdavies
13 May 15#193
I thought the same however have just succeeded this very minute after about 50 backgrounds attempts over the course of this morning. I had preregistered. Keep trying!
KingCampo
13 May 15#192
Registered yesterday evening without any problems at all via Android app on Lollipop.
Super-hot deal, a massive game-changer in how we spend abroad I suspect.
wrdavies to KingCampo
13 May 15#195
Yes, tried 10 minutes ago and got a message alluding to phenomenal demand and stating that they'll keep me posted in future.
leeeastham
13 May 151#194
Also pre-registered but cannot register on the app. Weirdly the alert message came through at pretty much the same time I started downloading the app. My Play account is different to the address I registered with so it wasn't that.
Either way it's a shambles from the start.
wrdavies
13 May 15#196
I should have said that I preregistered months ago and downloaded the app a minute after getting the email from them, but that doesn't seem to matter.
bubbablue
13 May 15#197
I signed up for the trial the first the other month. Got email this morning and completed process within 20 minutes of receiving it. Didn't get a card
KingCampo
13 May 15#198
MoneySavingExpert circulated the news that registration was open yesterday on their early email shot so those who get that will have got in first.
wrdavies
13 May 152#199
Yes, exactly. It's no problem, there just seems little point in having pre-registered. You'd have though those of us that had already given them our email addresses would be on the list.
blue0011
13 May 15#200
I use Clarity to withdraw cash in local currency, then I immediately pay off the card.
KingCampo
13 May 152#201
Quite! Seems like MSE had a few hours to spread the news before Travelex alerted those who'd pre-registered, therefore making pre-registration utterly pointless!
kachopra
13 May 151#202
Wait...so pre-registration didn't do anything? I bothered to register months ago...
roirulz
13 May 15#204
Anyone managed to get around this message ? "We've been unable to verify your identity"
samnai
13 May 15#206
don't know why its got a bigger forehead
Donk1979
13 May 15#207
Are you saying you can get cash back when you top up with Caxton? If so, how?
Superman80
13 May 15#208
I just get Thanks for registering your interest, we will email you shortly etc, still not had the email and i did it yesterday
gorgo2015
13 May 15#209
I've just received the official invitation by email. Anybody else?
And can I use a different postal address from the one that I give to my bank?
JonBetts2004
13 May 152#210
Travelex has really let those down that pre-registered. I'm so annoyed. Haven't even had a chance to order a card.
Narkodrom
13 May 15#211
registration is closed for now ///
Qaari
13 May 15#212
Quidco offers £5 cashback for topping up a prepaid card online and TopCashBack offers £5.25.
jodymumford
13 May 15#213
Just recieved an email saying no more availability and yes uk transactions are charged for
judgejohn82
13 May 15#214
Sounds really good, but in my recent experience I have always found MasterCard to offer better exchange rates (certainly for USD and EUR) than Visa.
Taking yesterday as an example, the Visa GBP-USD exchange rate (from here) was 1 GBP = 1.5357 USD whereas the MasterCard exchange rate (from here) was 1 GBP = 1.5707 USD, a difference of over 2%.
Similarly, on a recent European holiday (using my Nationwide FlexPlus fee-free debit card) I got a cash withdrawal rate of 1 GBP = 1.35410 EUR, whereas the MasterCard exchange rate on the same day was 1 GBP = 1.372842 EUR, a difference of almost 1.5%
Definitely a great idea, but I would be far happier to see MasterCard eventually offer a similar service.
jdsurfer1968
13 May 151#215
Took a wile to registered though success after trying 10 times . Once I registered instantly got the e-mail in saying card was on it's way . Think the trick is to " Try & Try again
Quinten to jdsurfer1968
13 May 15#218
But where do you try? In the (iPhone) app, I have 2 options: register or sign-in. Register asks for email/phone (so did that), sign-in asks for account number (which I dont have)... On the website you just get the 'demand' notice
skijacklam
13 May 15#216
Does the Halifax CC distinguish between foreign cash withdraw with normal spending? Can you share your experience with us the charges when you withdraw cash and pay the CC on the same day?
hasan6958
13 May 15#217
But aren't there UK only fees if you withdraw from a cash point? Are you charged anywhere in the world when you withdraw from a cash point?
EDIT: Yep no fees at abroad ATMs too, these FAQs are extremely useful for anyone like me who has never used these card before: https://www.supercard.io/faqs
docefc
13 May 15#219
Bumbags! I am going for a drive across california for a couple of weeks on Saturday, this'd have come in very handy!
PLUSMAN
13 May 152#220
Very disappointed with the whole process. Pre-registered weeks ago but only got an email from them this morning, hours after it had appeared on MSE. What was the point in pre-registering? Being trying to register all morning without success.
golo83
13 May 15#221
what a complete mess
shuo23
13 May 15#222
the only question is if I link a uk credit card with this card. when I withdraw cash from aboard, is that a cash withdrawal or spending for my uk credit card?
vulcan903
13 May 15#223
Thailand charges a flat 180Bht ATM fee so I assume this fee would still be taken?
mikeyp to vulcan903
13 May 15#235
Yes you'd still have to pay the fee the Thai bank charges for using their ATM.
Bogditzy
13 May 15#224
Works again? Or not. Just get stuck at registering
rossjamesparker
13 May 15#225
I withdraw cash on the card all the time. Typically €200 plus maybe CHF 50 per month. All I am charged is the interest until my month-end full Direct Debit payment. I used to transfer money the same day - which avoided any charge at all. However, there are two reasons I stopped doing this:
1. If you accidentally overpay, your credit card balance can actually go into debit, which is against the T&Cs on the account, and can cause problems (up to and including cancellation). Overpayment may occur if you transfer cash and it arrives on the same time as a scheduled Direct Debit, for example.
2. The interest charges are tiny. Typically less than 50p per month, never (for me) more than £1.
monster144
13 May 151#226
Farce! Waste of time pre-registering.
Very disappointed
SewerSide
13 May 15#227
With the Halifax card, purchases in shops abroad work like shops in the Uk, and give a great exchange rate. No interest payments assuming you pay it off at the end of the month.
For ATM withdrawals abroad, you can get charged by the local bank, but it should tell you onscreen. Halifax won't charge you, but it will start charging interest straight away. You can avoid this by keeping a positive balance on your credit card.
gorgo2015
13 May 15#228
Thank you for visiting Supercard.
We are experiencing significant demand at present. Please check back later.
Buffoons!
aparichitan
13 May 15#229
I was able to register via Android App after several retries.
"Your supercard is now in the post and on the way to you"
lpgm
13 May 15#230
They start charging interest from the day they post the withdrawal to your account - not the day you do it. Things update overnight, so you see the withdrawal in your account the day after they post it. You can then pay it off.
You *can* keep a positive balance on it, but you're not meant to.
pantaiema
13 May 15#231
I think you are missing the boat ...
Try to see what other people are doing to get a much better deal than what you have got with prepaid card such as Caxton, ....
eloo
13 May 15#232
Soo I can make another PayPal account with this?
darthvader666uk
13 May 15#233
I used uKask while im amsterdamn recently and that work very well. No feens in UK or Europe on cashpoints or by using it. Main disadvantage its Europ only :/
KingCampo
13 May 15#234
You can connect Supercard to your Mastercard as well as Visa, but not Amex.
justanotherpunter
13 May 15#236
I never thought about using my Halifax CC to withdraw cash as I anticipated extra 'bank charges' but this sounds useful
Let's say I withdrew €500 and didn't pay it off for a month cos I'm being lazy on a beach somewhere, lol.
CC current apr is 17.95% so less than 1.5%/month. Does that mean I'd end up paying a max €7.5 interest on the €500 for a month?
Cheers
cocoguy
13 May 151#237
After trying for so many hours altogether, finally got a mail saying that my Supercard is on its way!
Tried on Android app - and received the mail in the past couple of minutes.
Keep trying people.
vulcan903
13 May 15#238
Caxton charge a 2.75% fee
golo83
13 May 15#239
got it!
Superman80 to golo83
13 May 15#242
How long did that take, ive been stuck on the security submission for about an hour, Registration Submission error!
golo83 to golo83
13 May 15#281
just got the confirmation email
ferdy147
13 May 15#240
I've overpaid my clarity card to cover overseas withdrawals never caused a problem.
Have applied for the traveled supervised too so will be nice to have both available if it comes before an upcoming holiday.
gorgo2015
13 May 15#241
I've re-read the FAQ and now I have a doubt. Can I use the Supercard for online transactions, say in Dollars or Euro, or will it only work if I am physically abroad? I wanted to use this card to buy goods on Amazon US.
justanotherpunter to gorgo2015
13 May 15#248
Why don't you just get the Halifax Clarity Mastercard which will give the best rates possible?
Don't the savings get cancelled out once you take p&p into account or are you picking up/getting somebody else to pick up in the US?
rams1981
13 May 15#244
have people had any success using iphone app?
justanotherpunter to rams1981
13 May 151#247
Just downloaded the Android app and quote 'Supercard is now in the post'!
Suggest you get a decent phone :stuck_out_tongue:
Agree with guy above, doubt you'll get anywhere near Halifax Clarity rates which tend to be close to Interbank...
huseyinbozkina
13 May 15#245
they will be making their profit through currency exchange rates.
mikeyp
13 May 15#246
Keep getting "unable to verify your identity". Did anyone get past this?
PLUSMAN
13 May 151#249
Finally managed to get registered. Had to keep going through the registration process until it worked. Lets see how long it takes until the card arrives, and if it will live up to all that it is claiming to be.
gorgo2015
13 May 15#250
I don't pay much P&P and don't pay any VAT at all because I make small orders. There's a lot of electronics in USA under $10 and postage free, but end up paying £5 in bank fees.
Clarity is not an option for me because I wouldn't pass a credit check.
I suppose the Supercard would be valid for online transactions, but Travelex is not very transparent in their T&C.
scouser100000
13 May 152#251
After 2 hours of trying I am happy to confirm that they can shove the 'Supercard' up their a***. Applied for Halifax Clartiy instead - took 2 minutes!
kachopra
13 May 15#252
I have no idea why it is saying thanks for registering interest on the app when I did it on the website about 3 months ago? How did people get to saying card sent?
JonBetts2004
13 May 15#253
How on earth have people got to the registration page? No sign of it and I've been refreshing all day, about 10 times an hour.
djmpne
13 May 15#254
I've got to registration but several times it tells me it can't verify my identity! I've not moved house for 10 years!! Very frustrating
emanas
13 May 15#255
Here is what I have noticed after some investigation and lots of failed tries(tried both iPhone and Android)
There are three areas of failures
Android: The first screen asking email is a failure screen, I would rate the failure as 3 out of 10 in difficulties
iPhone: It is better than Android for this screen as on the app it asks you to enter email and phone number in one screen, so the failure rating for iPhone here is 2 out of 10
Address entry:
For me it sometimes failed to find my address, so I ended up entering manually using the manual address entry option, I would rate this as 1 out of 10 for failure
Security details submission page
This is the mother of all failures, I would rate it 9 out 10 in terms of difficulties. I found iPhone having more failure than Android app at this stage, so I gave up trying iPhone. On Android I found a trick to speed up the retries by pressing the multitask button and again coming back to the Supercard app when I saw the "Registering" dialog is taking more than a couple of minutes(it did take more than 10 minutes before showing me error on Android). This trick helped me a lot to speed up the retries. I just have tried like 100 times if not more before this trick and failed, after the trick I tried like 10 times and it went through to next stage
The final failure:
I found that during the security details submission page the "Registering" dialog changes to "Initialising Security card", this means the request must have passed through the registration and was trying to initialise the card, I had one failure at this stage in my Android app which means when I started the app I had to start from beginning, but luckily using the trick I mentioned earlier I went through quickly and managed to get the registration successful screen in the end along with an email stating my card is on the way through post. Good Luck to all who have time and patience to try registering. The concept is good but the execution could have been better by arranging a first register interest and first get served for the pilot.
lostgil
13 May 15#256
After the Security page I keep getting hit with "Looks like something's gone wrong, please try again later." where is everyone else getting stuck.
kachopra
13 May 15#257
All I get is the email and phone number screen - followed by thanks for registering your interest? How do people get these other screens?
mikec
13 May 15#258
What a nightmare. Finally got the application accepted after trying for 6 hours on my android phone. Gave up on the iPad after 5 hours.
kachopra
13 May 15#259
Can anyone even get to an application via iPhone?
vhot
13 May 15#260
Worked first time with my note 3, got email confirmation card will be in the post. Thanks. Op
djmpne
13 May 15#261
I've got to registration but several times it tells me it can't verify my identity! I've not moved house for 10 years!! Very frustrating
fiyero to djmpne
14 May 15#302
I had this problem over and over, gave up and it looks like applications are closed now so guess I'm not getting one.
I do recall having issues getting an Asda one before and I believe those are (were?) Travelex too so maybe I'm blacklisted!
streetkid
13 May 15#262
Ah!!! this is infuriating! I'm on the last screen too with the registration submission error, I'm on an iPhone. I'm questioning my sanity as to whether this is really worth the constant submit, ok, submit, ok, submit, ok..................!
lostgil
13 May 15#263
App finally got to the end after, who knows, 30 trys but of course it crashed near the end and no email confirmation. Now when I start the app it asks me to login. A few more trys to get logged in and I get the congrats screen saying cards on its way. Still no email so I doubt it'll ever show up.
PLUSMAN to lostgil
13 May 151#268
I was getting this as well. I had to uninstall/reinstall the app to get it to start again. Finally got through the process and received an email - but it took many tries! Not impressed with their whole process and the way in which they've handled this (especially for those who pre-registered).
golo83
13 May 15#264
took a while but just make sure your screen doesnt go on standby. if you keep getting error just keep submitting.
i quit the application once and came back later but my registration details were saved on there so just kept pressing submit until it went through...once you see it change to 'creating card' you know you are in but took about 5min from there to get to congratulations screen!
jonnny1
13 May 15#265
Just succeeded first time on android after trying all afternoon on my iPad!
Superman80
13 May 15#266
Has anyone actually managed to do it on an iOS device?
cuffy to Superman80
13 May 15#267
Yes - first time but was about 530am this morning
cuffy
13 May 15#269
update from moneysavingexpert site:
IMPORTANT UPDATE: 5.59pm 13 May 2015
Supercard* was included in today's weekly email which is sent in batches to 11m people over 18 hours. Travelex has drowned with demand since batch 1 - even though we pre-warned it and it had said it would cope. Its site's struggling and it's talking of closing the pilot. I'm afraid it looks like we're the Kryptonite to Supercard. Here's the latest status:
Supercard is still live and available, though its website is struggling - some are getting through, some not.
It originally said numbers were limited but didn't give a cap. It has now told us it will cap the number of cards at 25,000. Currently 12,500 have gone, but mainly as some people are struggling to get through.
We hear some people are being told "we aren’t able to get a card to you right now". We believe this is because it has decided to not give it to people who don't travel often. We have explained we believe that is inappropriate communication and it needs to explain that the card is open but it has now added qualifying criteria.
Some people have got other error messages, or indication they won't get a card. Frankly it is creaking at the sides. The information we put here is coming from the people at the top. And we are in communication with them and asking for hourly updates, which we will then pass on here.
We are waiting to hear what the status is for people who completed the application but got an error message at the last stage.
We will next update this at 9pm or earlier if all cards have gone before then.
grazie
13 May 15#270
Couldn't register using the website all day after receiving my introduction email this morning. However, I downloaded the Android Supercard by Travelex app about half an hour ago from Google play, as per many others here and with a little persistence, I've just got the message that my Supercard is on its way. We shall see.
EDIT : Just got confirmation email.
starbidder
13 May 15#271
Crashed! Been trying all day :0(
Draytondood
13 May 15#272
After many many attempts I had success using the Android app. No confirmation email yet though.
UPDATE - Confirmation email arrived shortly after posting. Keep trying guys it will eventually let you register.
drunk1
13 May 15#273
I was basically in the same boat as most folk.
Tried to register via iPhone lastnight and at the end it kept saying, "something has went wrong", and other similar error messages. So just gave up after 5 mins.
Tonight, at 7pm I got a confirmation email saying I'm successfully registered and card will be on it's way, follow instructions/no signature required.
So the upshot is, the details must be going through and around 15 hours later in my experience you'll probably get a email.
They must be experiencing high levels of applications.
djmpne
13 May 15#274
Has anyone else had the unable to verify your identity message? ??
LAM09
13 May 15#275
I registered when this was first posted, but haven't heard anything since. Have people received their card?
seabs
13 May 15#276
Downloaded the Android app, registered and confirmation email all within the last 30 minutes.
streetkid
13 May 15#277
I got the confirmation email 45 mins ago despite still trying to complete registration. The super card team are suggesting on Twitter huge issues with their iOS app.
alison197 to streetkid
13 May 15#285
Yep, my confirmation email arrived 3 hours after my last attempt to register, guess it must of had a back log.
vtservices
13 May 15#278
i give up
Donk1979
13 May 151#279
Sorry for sounding thick, but how? TCB only links to new card applications. No mention of topping up
bubbablue
13 May 15#280
Tried all day at various times and gave up in the end despite pressing submit button and getting and error saying something is wrong. Got an email about 45mins ago saying all done and card on its way!
bulktrans
13 May 15#282
getting reg submission error :-(
Qaari
13 May 15#283
AFAIK it provides cashback when you carry out an online transaction (e.g. loading your card)
Been trying clllllll day. Stuck on registration submission error on the final page -.-
gorgo2015
13 May 15#286
Can anybody please tell me if I can use the card for online transactions?
jnm21 to gorgo2015
14 May 15#298
Yes I can.
Would you like me to? :smiley: LOL
The answer has been given many times, e.g. in my last edit of the OP (bottom of the top post on every page), with link to their twitter answer.
smithy_0007
13 May 15#287
I give up, been trying all day : (
Donk1979
13 May 15#288
Thats what i did earlier. Takes you to new card applications
golo83
13 May 15#289
:confused:
is that some sort of credit check!??
jnm21
14 May 15#290
I was not - you can get cashback (topcashback) on new cards.
tomtomato
14 May 152#291
No, it's an identity check.
Just give me your password and mother's maiden name, and I shall check for you...
Bendown
14 May 151#292
No, its just a poor company, had that message a 100 times along with, error as well as "oops something has gone wrong" Gave up in the end and will continue to use my Clarity card. Better things to do than spend hours fecking about with these people
jizadine
14 May 152#293
You'd be surprised how many thickos would fall for that one...
sebhere
14 May 15#294
I know this sounds odd, but I heard people were having more luck through an android system. As I don't have one I downloaded an emulator on my Mac (sad I know) and after a few tries it went through! I imagine the iPhone / iPad apps are getting a lot more use and maybe they have individual connection 'routes', separate from Android? Either way, if your desperate for this it's worth a try. I used Emulator 'Droid4X'. I hope that helps (at least someone).
sebhere
14 May 15#295
Comment
I got two emails! I hope they don't send me two cards (only because that way some poor sod missed out!)
saveafew
14 May 15#296
Took several goes. Patience is required with usual profanity. Keep pressing submit.
alison197
14 May 15#297
MSE page is saying they have now closed the pilot, people who registered yesterday will get a email update.
Good to know thanks, I was always worried about overpaying.
blueyellowred
14 May 15#304
Just had email telling me to try again. Tried, did not work via their website.
However, I clicked on Google Play for Android on the bottom of said page, installed app that way on my phone, added all details and it took 3 minutes from start to finish - my card is on it's way. Result B|
Barnes1990
14 May 15#305
I registered my interest on the app for my android phone, now waiting for the e-mail.
Apparently MSE are saying pilot scheme is now closed... l
duke
14 May 15#306
I missed out yesterday,but managed to install the app from the email link given yesterday at 6pm ,and again 3 mins later card is on it's way!
pdcresswell
14 May 15#307
I got An email today and installed the app just got confirmed my card is on its way!
gujjy
14 May 15#308
Registered again on the app yesterday morning.
Just got the email to say that they have cards left.
Opened the app again and registered - card is on the way.
pidgeofcdf
14 May 15#309
tried a thousand times yest but it wouldn't go through, didnt get any email but today when I open the app it says congratulations you've successfully registered and the card is on it's way???
adi0604
14 May 15#310
Anyone know if we are authorizing Supercard to do any credit checks by agreeing to their T&C or not?
jnm21 to adi0604
14 May 15#311
No credit check - they have said that many times on twitter & MSE have stated it clearly.
medic
14 May 15#312
Kept getting registration error yesterday.
Just got email today to say card is on the way.
Any idea when we are made aware of account number? This seems to be required to sign in to the app but I haven't been given one - or will it become apparent when the card arrives?
MJ10
14 May 15#313
Also kept getting error emails, but card's on its way :smiley:
jnm21
15 May 15#314
Have to say it looks like Travelex have done the right thing & kept some places for those who pre-registered - my wife registered tonight having been emailed today. Seems those (myself included) complaining about the handling may have been a little harsh! :smiley:
vtservices
15 May 15#315
i pre registered but recently moved - every time i try i cant get it to accept - given up
gorgo2015
15 May 15#316
*** SCAM *** SCAM *** SCAM
After downloading and installing the app, filling all necessary details and being disqualified, I have received two text messages regarding PPI. I couldn't believe this was related to the Supercard app, then I checked on the MSE forum and a couple of posters had exactly the same problem.
This whole business looks like a glorified scam. I have uninstalled the app and will not touch Travelex with a bargepole.
zedlor to gorgo2015
17 May 15#321
I'm pretty sure there was an option to not allow them to share your information with 3rd parties when you're signing up...
galego
15 May 15#317
tried to sign up a few days ago...just got the email today saying there's no more :/
salmanzak
15 May 151#318
Just to let you all know they have done the credit check through equifax to those who have been accepted for the card......
scubascuba3
15 May 15#319
you can now add a bank account on the app, it isn't clear whether you could use a credit card instead. Only one card can be added. Hopefully when the card arrives there will be T&Cs
Kraken to scubascuba3
18 May 15#329
There's one report on the MSE forums that there will not initially be an option to connect to a Credit Card, just to a current account / debit card.
Scratch that, I just successfully tied my credit card to my supercard via the app.
mousedown
16 May 151#320
"We are experiencing significant demand at present. Please check back later"
Expired?
Petetobin
17 May 15#322
Must have missed the option, being spammed. Shows what kind of organisation we are dealing with.
gorgo2015
17 May 15#323
I unchecked the option to receive promotional material from Travelex and that was it. To be fair I have not received any further texts.
opaninkofi
17 May 15#324
I unchecked the option to receive promotional material from Travelex and that was it. To be fair I have not received any further texts
I ticked not to receive any promotional stuff from them and nothing here so far.
ferdy147
18 May 15#325
Hope this comes quickly as I'm due to go away soon!
Petetobin
18 May 15#326
Fair enough I forgot to tick the box, not fair enough I get bombarded with texts re PPI and Gambling before they even send the card out.
emanas
18 May 15#327
Has anyone received their supercars yet? I was told my card was in post last week, not sure how many days it will take to arrive.
blackaqua to emanas
18 May 15#328
They can be driven quite quickly, so no too long.
drunk1
19 May 15#330
Hope my card arrives soon, going to try it in Las Vegas in 2 weeks if possible.
Superman80
19 May 15#331
Have you received your card then already? Ive logged into my account but need the card number to go any further
Kraken
19 May 151#332
Nope, not got the card yet. My supercard app (Android) allowed me to "link bank card", and is now waiting at "Activate Supercard" which it would be foolish to press until I have the physical card.
rapuchy
19 May 15#333
Can somebody post the link of the card please,I can only see other service like cash passport not this.
Cheers
Supercard app still wont let me login following registration. :disappointed:
rapuchy
19 May 15#336
Comment
Cheers
tomwatts
20 May 15#337
Ordered one of these but have since gone with the Clarity Card from Halifax. Just seems simpler than having to keep an eye on the app, plus possibly messing around with Travelex's fees. Desparate to buy a playbar from amazon.it but the conversion is over £20 so I'd be foolish not to wait!
voodoomox to tomwatts
20 May 15#338
Just to point out that it will be VISA's exchange rate not Travelex's, even though it's run by them.
mikeyp
21 May 15#339
Have been informed supercard will be delivered in 7 to 10 working days. If you email support they'll give you your account number too :smiley:
shuo23
21 May 15#340
Got the card this morning, activated through the app. Everything looks great.
Interestingly, the pin only has 4 digits, and the security code at the back only has 3 digits.
Quite clearly it is not a standard UK visa card, I wonder whether it classified as debit or credit card?
Superman80 to shuo23
21 May 15#341
Are not all ATM pins 4 digits and CCV 3?
dinosteveus
21 May 15#342
Yes, he must be confused.
voodoomox
21 May 15#343
Ditto? All ATM pins are 4 digits and CCVs are 3.
scubascuba3
21 May 15#344
Yes, every card I've seen anyway.
It isn't a credit card, more like a debit card or hybrid, each transaction is funded so no credit. I read the T&Cs yesterday which look professional and gives much more detail. Available on the supercard site.
shuo23
21 May 15#345
>.< yeah, sorry I'm confused.
I have a few visa cards with 6 digits pin, which are all issued abroad apparently...
cvv are always 3 digits, true. what I mean is usually there are 7 digits at the back (4+3). this one only got 3 digits
opaninkofi
21 May 15#346
Also got my card through the mail today. Will be linking my accounts and setting it up for my trip to Majorca next 2 weeks.
ferdy147
22 May 15#347
Not sure if mine has come...But a day too late if it has!
scubascuba3
22 May 15#348
Anyone know whether a cash withdrawal abroad will go through the same on the linked card? so use a linked credit card for purchases and linked debit card for cash withdrawals.
Petetobin
22 May 15#349
CVV2 and CVC2 are always 3 digits, the Amex 4DBC is 4 digits. PINs in the UK are 4 digits but in many countries they are 6.
The back is one of the standards for a Visa Card but you are right mine is different too.
jnm21
23 May 15#350
So those who got cards, did you order early on Tuesday? I just got a warning email that I have not added any cards - don't plan to until I have the card. Anyone know if you can register a partner card (i.e. can I add my card which is on my wife's account)?
Superman80
23 May 15#351
Anyone attempted to change the pin in a UK cash point?
jnm21 to Superman80
23 May 15#352
Still not got card - registered just after midnight Tuesday night & still nothing over 10 days later! Can you tell me when you registered/when you got your card?
opaninkofi
23 May 151#353
I think I registered on the same day as you but in the afternoon I guess. I registered after reading post 159. Check it out to have an idear when some of those who have received the card signed up via the app.
Petetobin
23 May 15#354
Still no card but plenty of spam must have signed up to Superspam not Supercard.
Superman80
23 May 15#355
I preregistered ages ago and finally managed to get my app through the whole process late Wednesday night
jnm21
23 May 15#356
I pre-registered in the early days of this thread. I signed up properly a good 8 hours before they let me know it was available! Getting worried that the card has gone AWOL.
jnm21
23 May 15#357
Checking my emails (since HUKD no longer give accurate time of posts), I think that post was around 2PM. I guess if everyone who has got a card or not could post, stating when they applied & whether or not they have got their card. Gonna be Tuesday now! :disappointed:
jnm21
23 May 151#358
Looking through their twitter, found what seems to be confirmation that you can register any card registered at the same address as the Supercard, regardless of the name on it - to think I was worried if a partner card in my name would be ok!
For all those out there still waiting like me... They should be coming soon. This is an email from travelex:
"We understand the delay in card delivery.
Due to many duplicate applications there has been delay in production of cards. Our designated team is already working on it to expedite the process. Also, we have noticed that some of our customers have their cards. Thus, we would request you to bear with us.
Further to your query, in order to login online in your account we request you to wait for the card to be delivered."
scubascuba3
24 May 151#360
If anyone withdraws cash abroad it would be good to hear if your bank definitely doesn't charge
kev1986 to scubascuba3
30 May 151#378
Would be even more interesting to know what happens on credit cards, is it a cash advance or a purchase?
zippypants
25 May 15#361
Still waiting for mine after 10 days whats the norm for the card to arrive?
cuffy
25 May 15#362
Wasn't it 10 "working" days?
If so, my registration was confirmed on 13th May and therefore still within the time.
zippypants to cuffy
25 May 15#363
Thanks
SemajNildnac
27 May 151#364
Just called 0843 506 5244 as my card hasn't turned up yet and the guy said that there has been a delay and should receive card in the next 7 working days from today.
jnm21 to SemajNildnac
27 May 15#366
Thanks for the info. Really loosing all faith in them - first it was 7 days, then 7-10 days, then 7-10 working days & now after 10 working days, it is another 7 working days. About as reliable as an ice road trucker in a heatwave!
djtezz
27 May 15#365
Still no card, plus my account says its suspended :disappointed:
MidMorning
28 May 15#367
Same story here.
SemajNildnac
28 May 15#368
Just got a new email:
Hello,
Welcome to Supercard, and what a couple of weeks it’s been! When we launched two weeks ago, demand went through the roof – there are clearly many more people in the UK than we first imagined, who want to eliminate their bank card roaming fees when spending abroad.
With this being the case, we decided to release another batch of Supercards, so that more of you could take part in the pilot. And you’re one of the lucky few selected to be part of our extended pilot!
We’re now working through the initial list first and getting these cards in the post as quickly as is (super) humanly possible. But with all the extra cards we’ve released, this means there will be a delay before your Supercard wings its way to you. It may be a few weeks, but we are beavering away and if we can get it to you any quicker, we will.
Thanks once again for joining us on this journey, we’ll be sure to keep you updated.
Best wishes,
The Supercard team
MidMorning
28 May 151#369
Was just about to share that.
Thar to MidMorning
28 May 15#370
Me too! I thought I'd been accepted in the first batch. Ah well, at least I'm getting one, eventually! Unfortunately I came back from holiday on Sunday :smirk:
Superman80
28 May 151#371
Got the same email but already have my card
gujjy
29 May 15#372
has anybody had a chance to use their card yet. I'm in the next batch.
opaninkofi to gujjy
29 May 152#373
I am off to holidays coming Tuesday, plan using the card to make a few cash withdrawals and card transactions. Will update the thread of actual charges.
zippypants
29 May 15#374
I'm Still waiting..... I feel like a Diana Ross song (those of you old enough to remember)
13 may I applied have emailed them see what they say.
JonathanCassar
29 May 15#375
Well still waiting for my card too but its cost nothing so not too bothered. I guess they didn't realise how much demand they would get for the pilot
drunk1
30 May 15#376
Still no card and got confirmation very early I was successful. Going to Vegas on Wednesday and really hope it comes before then so I can try it.
kev1986
30 May 151#377
I got my card, got the pin on my phone, used it online, lost the pin, went to retrieve it again, now I get an image saying "PIN IMAGE EXPIRED"
E-mailed CS with no response in a week, phoned some weird sounding lady who took my number and said "I get call back" which never happened...
Great customer service so far :smile:
scubascuba3
30 May 15#379
I'm 99% sure it will be treated as cash so you'll pay interest from that day
JonathanCassar
30 May 15#380
On money saving expert it states cash is treated as a purchase if I ever get a card I can check!
scubascuba3 to JonathanCassar
30 May 15#381
I bet that's not right because your credit card co would expect a cut of the purchase, with cash there's nothing.
Anyway we'll find out soon I guess
kev1986
31 May 151#382
Quick update - got the pin number refreshed and changed it at a UK ATM, it worked and the new pin number shows up in the "Show pin number" section of the app.
jnm21
1 Jun 15#383
Nearly 3 weeks now, still no card. Wife got the second batch email, which is fine, but all I have had is a still not registered any cards email! Would be nice if they had a rep on here to answer queries...
Anyone else notice the mistake in the second batch email? I think the wording means that they underestimated the number of people in the UK! Good old English where word order changes the meaning!
SemajNildnac
1 Jun 15#384
Has anyone used the card yet and checked out the conversion rate?
Is it as good as they say?
kev1986 to SemajNildnac
1 Jun 15#385
Yep, hang on and I will send a screenshot
kev1986
1 Jun 152#386
There we go - Online purchase, $28.99 = £18.67 (Visa exchange rate at the time of transaction
Somehow the exchange rate is the wrong way round but I get what it means :smile:
opaninkofi to kev1986
2 Jun 15#387
this looks good. I am of to Majorca in the afternoon today, will share screen shots as well of my transactions
scubascuba3 to kev1986
2 Jun 152#388
That's better than the Mastercard rate for the same day
SemajNildnac to kev1986
2 Jun 151#396
That really is a great rate, I use an app on my phone but always know that the rate is worse than it shows but your exchange rate (okay it's 10 hours later but is better than it) wow, looks brilliant, I agree how are they making money?
Still don't have my card yet, but as post above ordered on 13th
kev1986
2 Jun 151#389
Just done another one today, more useless rubbish from china, but it was too cheap to ignore :smile:
£2.63
$4.00
1 USD = 0.6575
Estimated Saving £2.10, i'm sure its more than that as I think its £2.50 a transaction my account charges plus x%
kev1986
2 Jun 15#390
Another good use is when the Amazon.es/de/it deals come on, as Amazon's exchange rates are pretty poor, these cards will be awesome
opaninkofi
2 Jun 15#391
Awesome
kev1986
2 Jun 151#392
The exchange rate does move throughout the day too, I just did another one
£13.13 - $19.95 (£0.658145 = $1) - Compared to the 0.6575 I got a few hours ago.
Paypal wanted £13.56 for the same transaction.
Not a lot saved, but they do add up. I am at a loss as to how these guys make any money.
JonathanCassar
2 Jun 15#393
Has anyone tried cash yet curious to see if its treated as a purchase. I'm in Dublin but my card hasn't arrived yet.
kev1986 to JonathanCassar
2 Jun 15#394
I have asked the question, but had no response yet
zippypants
2 Jun 151#395
Yipee card arrived today applied 13 May
jnm21 to zippypants
3 Jun 15#397
Great to hear that - I also applied on 13th (email timed at 00:13), so likely my card has been sent too - maybe your pigeon had a package on the other leg for me? :smiley:
Gives us some hope that cards may be in the post. Was just about giving up. Will be a few months before I get chance to test unfortunately (since they missed their stated 'late April' release by over a month).
ferdy147
3 Jun 15#398
Got mine today, A couple of weeks too late for my trip abroad.
I've used it online with Aliexpress and apparently saved £2.33 on a £12 transaction. The exchange rate was marginally lower than the xe.com currency app when I checked it on the phone a minute or two later. All in all I'm very impressed.
A welcome addition to my clarity credit card!
gujjy to ferdy147
3 Jun 15#402
So I can use this card to purchase from any site that takes payment in dollars and it will be cheaper than paypal?
VoteNo
3 Jun 15#399
I received my card today. Will need to wait till next month before I can use it.
VoteNo
3 Jun 15#400
Can the pin be changed like any other card at an atm?
opaninkofi to VoteNo
3 Jun 15#401
Yes, I changed mine in the Uk to my usual pin. Will be sharing screen shots of my transactions soon. I can Aust that there is no need changing euros b4 u leave 4 overseas as mine have worked flawlessly every where I have been to.
opaninkofi
3 Jun 15#403
Looks like that
cuffy
3 Jun 15#404
My card arrived today.
I have a Zero card with Santander; so I am going to look for a couple of cheap foreign purchases, to purchase at same time, to see which comes out cheaper.
cuffy to cuffy
3 Jun 15#405
2 x €10.32 at dx.com. Web-site would charge me £7.62. Supercard £7.50. Waiting for Santander to catch up ! (xe.com - suggest should be £7.58).
So far then Supercard wins.
Evil Panda
4 Jun 15#406
In my restless dreams,
I see that card.
"Supercard"
You promised me you'd sent it to me the other day.
but you never did.
Well, I'm alone now...
Waiting, for it to come...
kev1986
4 Jun 151#407
Wow.....
blackaqua
4 Jun 15#408
:neutral_face:
dinosteveus
4 Jun 151#409
Cash from an overseas atm and no 'cash' fee from my credit card provider. Absolutely fantastic.
jnm21 to dinosteveus
4 Jun 15#410
How long before Visa tell them to stop that?
JonathanCassar
4 Jun 15#411
I guess it depends on abuse etc
cuffy
5 Jun 151#412
Santander finally catches us! Transaction at exactly same time came through at £7.58.
So Supercard is the winner!
jnm21
6 Jun 15#413
Card arrived Tuesday or Wednesday (reg. 13th May 00:13) & just made first purchase to test; AU$ 3.43 on ebay;
XE.com £1.71
Paypal £1.79 & (drum roll please)
Supercard £1.73
Not too bad!
JonathanCassar
6 Jun 15#414
Just got my card, unfortunately a few days late for my last overseas trip. Still gives me a reason to go someplace soon! FYI I got my acceptance email on the 14th in case that helps others
SemajNildnac
10 Jun 15#415
Can't believe this, after all this time I got my card, well no I didn't I got someone else's a Mr Peter Jennings. :disappointed:
gujjy
10 Jun 15#416
Still waiting here, Ordered my dad a few days after mine and his came a week ago!
sham63
10 Jun 15#417
Card finally arrived today - I registered back in March. Off to Spain in a fortnight so will give it a go.....
opaninkofi to sham63
10 Jun 15#418
I am in Cala Dor now and can't recommend this card enough. All my card purchases have been made from this supercard. One tip is whenever you are making a purchase or withdrawing cash they will ask you for euro or pound conversion, always chose euros and pounds will set you at the mercy of the bank which owns the cash machine.
djmpne
10 Jun 15#419
Still no sign of mine!! Realistic to expect it for the summer hols in 5 weeks????
PalG
11 Jun 15#420
How do you get the pin to show up? Mine just keeps saying pin expired??
kev1986 to PalG
11 Jun 15#421
email Customer Services
Paperlantern
11 Jun 15#422
Right - Im confused. Have received my card and tried to use it online for purchases in USD to a few place including Google and Amazon.com but it has declined. I have phoned the CS team who advise that some retailers might not accept the card (not sure why not - its a Visa card), and that it is meant to be for chip and pin transactions only. This seems to contradict their Twitter feed.
Has anyone else experienced issues using it online?
opaninkofi to Paperlantern
11 Jun 15#424
Card was twice rejected on a Ryanair flight to and from Europe, but worked every where else.
cuffy
11 Jun 151#423
Didn't use on the sites you tried but worked smoothly on a couple of others like dealextreme.
JonathanCassar
11 Jun 15#425
I used the card on Amazon.com without issue. It was a $105 purchase linked to a UK debit card
MacGyverUS to JonathanCassar
12 Jun 15#428
Do you mean you bought something from Amazon US site and ship to UK? How you managed to get them to ship here?
JonathanCassar
11 Jun 152#426
I don't think the card works offline as needs to debit the linked cards account before it can authorize the charge to the super card.
Given this that's probably why it won't work at 25000 ft
opaninkofi
11 Jun 15#427
This makes sense.
JonathanCassar
12 Jun 15#429
No I shipped to the US but was able to use the SuperCard, with a UK Billing address.
Snare
13 Jun 15#430
Can you add more than one card?
opaninkofi to Snare
14 Jun 151#431
Yes
Thar
14 Jun 15#432
Finally got mine yesterday.
JonathanCassar
14 Jun 151#433
upto 5 cards I think...
the_zooter
15 Jun 15#434
I've received mine last week (originally signed up in March). Perfect timing - off to Belgium on Wednesday.
I read with interest that you can withdraw cash via a linked Credit Card rather than linked Debit Card, and not suffer from Cash Advance fees. I'll be testing this out and will report back (unless anyone has already tested this and got a definitive answer??). I guess I could switch it to the Debit Card for cash withdrawals, but that's a bit of a faff I could do without!
gujjy to the_zooter
15 Jun 15#435
Haven't got any holidays planned yet. But let us know what you find!
shuo23
15 Jun 15#436
How long does it take to charge your debit cards?
because my one seems to take ages, i'm not complaining, just feeling weird...I paid about 4k on a few air tickets 5 days ago, and it still haven't shown up on my bill. it's a good thing in a way but it worrys me...
JonathanCassar
15 Jun 15#437
Took 5 days for my transaction to show on my linked card
jnm21
16 Jun 15#438
My wife had got the second batch email & her card arrived Friday (IIRC) - it was glued into to wallet thing!
Paperlantern
16 Jun 15#439
Still cant use the card online. Had a call from the team to advise that my transactions were being declined due to a '3 second time out' restriction on the card. Random, especially when others are able to use their cards absolutely fine.
Petetobin to Paperlantern
19 Jun 15#443
As with any Issuer, Travelex only has around 8 seconds to reply to Visa. Normally this isn't an issue but in the case of Supercard, they need to do a back to back authorisation against your linked card which they obviously only allow 3 seconds for. I can only assume your particular issuer is slower than most and isn't doing their authorisation quickly enough. The other explanation is that the linked card issuer's fraud system is rejecting Travelex's request as fraud but if that was the case, they would have rang you. By the way, who is the issuer of your linked card?
As an aside it would be fun to link a Supercard to a Supercard both ways and see if you could put the system in a loop!
ferdy147
16 Jun 15#440
I've used mine on a Aliexpress a few times now with no issues.
djmpne
17 Jun 15#441
Still no sign of my card turning up!!
1979crazy
17 Jun 15#442
Worked in France €100=£72.55 much better rate than Sainsburys currency exchange!
Petetobin
19 Jun 15#444
All Visa Electron products ( young person cards, prepaid cards) are online only and won't work on a plane irrespective of whether it is linked to a back end card.
MacGyverUS
19 Jun 15#445
Just received my card today... finally...
Do you link your debit or credit card to your Supercard?
Thar to MacGyverUS
19 Jun 15#447
I've linked three cards, my debit, my low credit limit credit card and a higher credit limit credit card. You choose which you want as default within the app.
kev1986
19 Jun 15#446
Just Saved myself a few beers, Amazon UK £319.99 (2 week wait). Amazon.DE €415.34 inc Monday (Next working day) Delivery.
Amazon's currency converter wanted £308.86, Travelex charged me £298.30
Eclairs
19 Jun 15#448
I got my card in the 1st batch and did all the required setup. To my surprise, another card was delivered yesterday with a completely new card number and expiry date. Has this happened to anyone?
MacGyverUS
19 Jun 15#449
Thanks. I just wonder if I link my credit card and withdraw money via ATM machine at Barcelona, will I get charge for cash advance fees? Anyone tried before?
Thar
19 Jun 15#450
See post #409 They withdrew cash from an overseas ATM via Supercard linked to a credit card and didn't get charged for a cash advance.
MacGyverUS
19 Jun 15#451
That's great! Thanks again.
JonathanCassar
20 Jun 15#452
I might go overseas next week, if I do I'll advise how the states likes the Supercard.
I just renewed my VPN subscription of $24.50 their website accepted cards, as well as Paypal.
Supercard won again:
Ok not epic in cash terms but over 7 cents is a large difference in rate, and all free
Thar to JonathanCassar
20 Jun 15#453
OT- Is that for a years sub?
JonathanCassar
20 Jun 15#454
It was indeed :smiley: I got a 50% off for life offer code in 2013 - no longer available im afraid but so far they seem to be honouring the deal, as this is my second renewal after the offer. I use the vpn all the time so was very lucky!
It will take twice as long to appear on your account than with another type of card as Travelex have to receive the transaction and then send it make into the system for it to reach the issuer of the linked card.
JonathanCassar
23 Jun 15#459
Well off to the states tomorrow taking super card and Halifax clarity as back-up. Looked at the terms, should be ok £500 cash per day and up to 15 transactions..
RLP06
23 Jun 15#460
compared this to my halifax card over the course of 3 days in Hungary.
Day 1: HUF/GBP- Halifax won by 1.2% (437.4HUF/GBP with Hal vs. 432.3HUF/GBP vs. Supercard)
Day 2: HUF/GBP- Halifax and Supercard were the same
Day 3: HUF/GBP- Halifax and Supercard same again
EUR/GBP- Halifax won by 0.6% (1.40EUR/GBP with Hal vs. 1.39EUR/GBP with Supercard)
Petetobin
24 Jun 15#461
From the MSE site, it appears that they are losing transactions. Use the product while you can.
ferdy147
24 Jun 15#462
Bought $27.60 of stuff from Gearbest.
Xe.com said £17.55 and the supercard transaction came out at £17.54!
Very happy with this card so far!
MacGyverUS
25 Jun 15#464
Is that means that it is recommended to link your Supercard with your debit debit when using abroad especially withdrawing cash via the ATM machine?
scubascuba3
25 Jun 151#465
i think once the credit card companies realise that these transactions are cash withdrawals abroad then they will want to charge interest from that day.
Has anyone actually withdrawn cash abroad yet linked to a credit card?
kev1986 to scubascuba3
25 Jun 15#466
I have, no issues at all. A few others have posted that cash has been withdrawn.
I got email confirmation that the transaction is processed as a purchase rather than cash.
I took €40 cash out and it shows up on the CC statement "TMS Supercard SOCRAM Chester GBR £28.76 DR"
scubascuba3
25 Jun 151#467
I just think once the credit card companies realise what's going on they will either block the cash withdrawals or backdate interest charges, we shall see.
I have the card linked to my debit card so for cash withdrawals I'll use that.
Petetobin to scubascuba3
27 Jun 151#469
By submitting the transactions as normal purchase transactions, Travelex does not get the money an ATM provider would normally get from the Issuer, this is called reverse interchange. Hence, the issuer's won't be overly concerned although they do like to know how much of your balance is cash v normal purchases.
bozo007
27 Jun 151#468
I got my card 2-3 weeks ago and finally used it on Jun 22 in Amsterdam. The Euro rate that day was 1.3904 as per xe.com and when I checked my bank statement, it looks like I have got a rate of 1.3901. Excellent!
scubascuba3
27 Jun 151#470
the credit card company will be funding your cash withdrawal, I.e. no interest will be earnt, they would be crazy to allow that. I think once they find out it will be stopped. Maybe backdate the interest charge, or they will write it off and block future transactions
kev1986 to scubascuba3
27 Jun 151#471
There is no way to do this as you are not taking cash from your credit card, you are purchasing via Supercard, they get paid as a merchant and give you cash.
scubascuba3
27 Jun 15#472
But it is cash. You withdraw it from an ATM, it may get processed as a purchase but it is cash, some institution is losing interest on it. Usually credit card companies charge a fee for a legitimate co. purchase, they won't be receiving a fee so they should be alerted unless their systems are crap
kev1986
27 Jun 15#473
On the same side of the coin, you best call up Barclays, HSBC, Santander and every other bank and tell them that this card is making them "Lose out" on the rip off conversion rates too.
While you are on with it, call Tesco and tell them all the misprices.
Petetobin
28 Jun 15#474
The bank get paid for the transaction by Supercard, it's irrelevant to them whether it is cash or a retail purchase. Read my post, it's Supercard who lose out.
smithy_0007
29 Jun 15#475
still waiting for my card. They say there is a delay in printing zzzzz
JonathanCassar
29 Jun 15#476
So far no issues using the card in the states
dharle
30 Jun 151#477
I'm not sure if setting up this card is worth the hassle! When I tried to register for it three months ago it kept on failing. I was therefore surprised to receive an email later saying that my card had been successfully registered.
Anyway, I finally received the card today! No instructions apart from to log on to the app. I suppose I'm supposed to guess that the account number is what is printed on the card. I entered it into the app,but keep getting "looks like something's gone wrong, please try again later". A feeling of deja-vu all over again...
opaninkofi to dharle
30 Jun 15#478
Yeah, the account number is right infront of the card. You can remove and reinstall the app to see if that works. I hope you have not forgotten your pin?
dharle
2 Jul 15#479
I rang up Customer Services in the end and the chap reset my password. It has now registered fine. It's a pity that I'm not due to go abroad until October. However,I think between this, my Halifax Clarity credit card and Metro bank debit card, I'm more than covered on minimising foreign exchange costs!
JonathanCassar
3 Jul 15#480
So there are a few issues with the card/app. The posting time for it to hit your card has already been mentioned, but in addition it appears temporary transactions don't vanish from the application.I had what looked like a duplicate transaction on my account. It's dropped off on supercards transaction list, the guy I spoke to insisted only one of them is there, but my app still shows the other. Sigh... anyway these temporary or pending transactions are a pain as you'll only really know once they actually appear on your card statement.
I don't get why they don't vanish once they expire. I tried to explain this on the phone but as their list does update the guy couldn't understand why I'm querying a transaction he couldn't see!
Overall its an inconvenience, but an annoying one!
scubascuba3
3 Jul 15#481
I had the same issue with my American Express card, a rogue transaction was under pending which eventually disappeared, so I don't think this is just a Supercard thing
JonathanCassar
3 Jul 15#482
The point is it disappeared from their system just not my app! I have no issue with temporary pending type transactions, its the nature of credit cards. I just don't get why the transaction list in the app doesn't drop transactions of this kind once expired!
JonathanCassar
8 Jul 15#483
So it seems a few transactions haven't yet hit my credit card! I'm going to wait another week for the pending transactions to settle. Hmm this card may indeed be super if I dont see these transactions at all :smiley:
scubascuba3
8 Jul 15#484
I have a transaction that hasn't gone through my linked bank account for a few days so far. I think something fishy is going on.
JonathanCassar
9 Jul 15#485
it can take 5-7 days for transactions to show.
I'm reconciling the transactions on the super card app vs my statement from my last trip. I'll report back
JonathanCassar
9 Jul 151#486
OK so of the £2800 I spent there's still £1600 to appear on the credit card and most of that are old transactions. (26th June) Interestingly many newer transactions have appeared, so not sure why certain transactions take a lot longer to show!
10/07/2015 All transactions finally posted so it seems two weeks is the maximum time. The rate is set at time of transaction so the only downside is not knowing for a few weeks where you are with the card you are posting to
jnm21 to JonathanCassar
21 Sep 15#505
You seem to have used your card a fair bit - have you used it for cash from a linked credit card? I'm nervous that it will be treated as cash not a purchase. Anyone else? I know there have already been a few positive comments, but I would be keen to have more & recent experiences.
1979crazy
10 Jul 15#487
Anybody had a refund of a transaction via the supercard?
Ordered a phone online using supercard, went through fine and appeared on the app.
The website (gearbest) then emailed saying as part of the online security policy they wanted a picture of the card I used to pay and my driving licence or passport. I refused to this so they refunded me. The original transaction from 30th June shows on the app but no refund shows(do they show) and the money has now been taken from my debit card. I'n a bit concerned with how a refund would work
I've emailed supercard twice but no response!
Any ideas?
JonathanCassar
10 Jul 15#488
I've not had a refund but had pending (temp) transactions drop off. Do you know gearbest actually processed the refund yet? Sometimes they can take a few days. Once they have confirmed they have processed the refund I'd call SuperCard directly as they are faster to answer calls than emails. The number is 02035030945
1979crazy to JonathanCassar
10 Jul 15#489
I called supercard, not the easiest call but they said they would fast track the refund whatever that means, I'm guessing one of 2 things could happen. I get the refund or I get 2 refunds of which I'm happy with either
JonathanCassar
10 Jul 151#491
you can now login via supercard.io this makes it easier to copy paste transactions from a webpage etc
roadie
13 Jul 15#492
If i pay on amazon.fr should i use to pay in eur or gbp?
scubascuba3 to roadie
13 Jul 151#493
always local so euro otherwise you won't get the visa exchange rate instead you'll get the Amazon / retailer exchange rate
Amohsin
13 Jul 15#494
Can I pay in U.S. Dollars?
JonathanCassar to Amohsin
13 Jul 15#495
SuperCard will work with any currency. Amazon.com for example will be USD, then converted as a domestic GBP transaction at visas rate at that moment and billed at that sterling amount to the Debit/Credit card you have linked.
opaninkofi to Amohsin
13 Jul 15#496
Yes. Always pay with local currency from country/website you are shopping from
roadie
14 Jul 15#497
Thanks buddy.
When I pay at amazon France shall I deselect the Amazon currency settings?
JonathanCassar
14 Jul 151#498
yes always select local currency over any offered dynamic currency conversion
RLP06
19 Jul 15#499
Used it the other day for CAD. Rate was off by 2% (got 1.98 vs 2.01 from mastercard/halifax)
kev1986 to RLP06
19 Jul 15#500
You do know this is a VISA card... it is the VISA rates that the exchange rate goes through at, not Mastercard's
Yeah, I know (i'm not blind). But it shouldn't be that far off. I've been finding the halifax card has been consistently better...
salmanzak
30 Jul 15#502
if I send money via western union using the travelex card....would it be classed as visa purchase or cash transaction?
just for the record when I send money via western union using my visa credit card they class it as a cash transaction.
notatestuser
14 Sep 15#503
The app behind this thing is such a pile of ****. It drives me crazy.
kev1986 to notatestuser
22 Sep 151#510
It's just been updated yesterday/today and is better.
monster144
14 Sep 15#504
I have mine linked to 3 different cards (2 debit, 1 credit) and it works fine for foreign purchases online.
However I was unable to withdraw cash from any ATMs in the Philippines recently despite numerous attempts with all linked cards.
Very disappointed. Anyone been able to draw cash in SE Asia ?
JonathanCassar
21 Sep 151#506
Hi yes I have taken cash many times from an atm. It's treated like everything else on my credit card. A UK purchase :smiley:
jnm21 to JonathanCassar
21 Sep 15#508
Cheers - gonna link it to a 0.5% cashback visa & see what happens!
Slash
21 Sep 15#507
totally forgot about this now. wanted it at that time. Its been 6 months and they still haven't re-open this program yet...
kev1986
22 Sep 151#509
Shame they blocked Credit Cards via POS/ATM transactions in GBP - it used to be OK to do a POS transaction on a CC but not any more.
I had to pay £45 in CC fees when I booked my holiday! It would have only cost me 50p if I did it a few months back.
scubascuba3
5 Oct 15#511
I've been waiting 3 weeks for Supercard to process a refund, still not done. Based on that I wouldn't buy anything that you might need refunded
opaninkofi to scubascuba3
5 Oct 15#512
chargeback the transaction from your bank, simple
ism
11 Nov 15#513
Is anyone else having problems linking their supercard to their paypal account
it justs says this card cannot be linked try another
scubascuba3
11 Nov 15#514
To use Supercard a transaction needs to be chip and pin, Im currently in Thailand who ask for signature instead and so this card doesn't work. So, moral to the story is check for the country you are visiting whether chip and pin is accepted. Ive now switched to using Revolut card which is working perfectly.
JonathanCassar
11 Nov 15#515
Chip and pin not required - I used the card in the States and Egypt with signature no issues..
scubascuba3 to JonathanCassar
11 Nov 15#517
Interesting.
Supercard said to me "We have checked our records and found that the transaction got declined due to chip and pin issue. We request you to please try to use the card on CHIP and PIN terminals with Visa acceptance"
It was Starbucks so i cant believe they dont accept visa. My Revolut Mastercard was accepted fine.
JonathanCassar
11 Nov 15#516
The transaction needs to be online so the only place its not worked for me is on board aircraft etc.
But always good to have a backup have a Revolut too
JonathanCassar
11 Nov 15#518
All I can think is that its regional?? Anyway at least you had a backup!
jnm21 to JonathanCassar
20 Nov 15#519
Just got this - I think less than 2 days notice is scandalous!
JonathanCassar
23 Nov 15#520
It should work globally but not been to Brazil.
So far I've used in USA, Ireland, Holland and Egypt without issue either way I'd take a backup just in case :smiley:
scubascuba3 to JonathanCassar
23 Nov 15#521
It currently doesn't work in thailand where you need to sign is the norm.
JonathanCassar
23 Nov 15#522
OK, Thailand is the only place it doesn't seem to work so far - but as stated earlier always take a backup - Revolut seems a sensible backup. I've never needed it so far but always take it when I travel. When you do go to Brazil - let us know how you get on.
vhot
13 Dec 15#523
I think you can use at the ATM machine? So, the same as anywhere?
cuffy
13 Dec 15#524
I was in Thailand at the end of November and used in hotel, supermarket, restaurant and ATM with no problem. The only issue I had was a 200 Baht charge which I thought was excessive but I had little option at the time.
scubascuba3
13 Dec 15#525
The signature with no pin worked ok?
Most banks now charge 200 baht atm fee
Evil Panda
15 Feb 16#526
Just tried it out for the first time for a online purchase just to test it out, so I try it on a $1. Just what rate are they using? How $1 is equal to £1 exchange rate?
scubascuba3 to Evil Panda
16 Feb 16#527
That doesn't make sense. Re-check what has gone through your credit card / bank
Well, shows it as a Pending Purchase on the supercard and my credit card right now. It still 1 GBP = 1 USD. http://imgur.com/sSJRY97
Thar to Evil Panda
16 Feb 16#531
How strange!
JonathanCassar
16 Feb 16#530
Id give them a call:
UK: 0207 078 2720 International: +44 203 503 0945
Evil Panda
16 Feb 16#532
I gave them a phone call, they said that it is pending right now and when it finish it should show the right exchange rate and charge me the right amount. Did anyone get the same problem as me or should I stop using it? Should it be like this?
Thar to Evil Panda
16 Feb 16#534
What you see is unusual. All i can say is I've used mine several times for online purchases in $ and € and at ATM's in Europe and had no issues like this. I always check the conversion rate against the Visa rate either using the link above or the app after purchase/withdrawal, and the rate has always been correct. I would check what it comes through at. Mine has saved me a good few quid and I wouldn't be without it.
cuffy
16 Feb 16#533
I last used it in November and extensively in Singapore, Australia, New Zealand and Thailand and never noticed anything as strange. The only issue I had was remembering whether it needed to be charged to credit or check accounts at ATMs (check a/c) and at the shops (credit a/c).
I would definitely would be checking my card regularly.
JonathanCassar
17 Feb 16#535
Just used it:
17 FEB LONDON , WWW.ALIEXPRESS.COM,- (USD) 5.89=£4.11
Exchange Rate 1 USD = 0.70 GBP
You've saved £2.14 GBP
Interested to see that this thread is active again. Maybe I should try again with my Travelex card??
I wanted it for ATM withdrawals in S.E.Asia and it has been a complete failure. Tried in various countries with it linked to different cards...phoned them twice and they said each time "try again, we have unlocked it" but same problem. Anyone else had this?
Gone back to using my Halifax Clarity card now.
Can someone who has used both comment on which works out cheapest for foreign cash withdrawals please?
scubascuba3
17 Feb 16#539
I tried using it in Thailand for purchases and its useless, you need to use your PIN but in Thailand they mostly require signatures only. I recommend using the Revolut card which uses interbank spot rates. My second option is Halifax Clarity.
JonathanCassar
17 Feb 16#540
Last time I used it overseas was Egypt in Oct - worked fine for both purchases and cash from ATM's
I'm off to Denmark next month so will use it then, an then off to the states so will use it again there.
I always take back up plastic (Revolut santander zero and a Clarity card) so far though the Supercard has worked fine.
The supercard needs realtime online transactions, so wouldn't expect 100% coverage.
ALWAYS take backup cards just in case!
Thar
17 Feb 16#541
Which is the rate confirmed by the Visa Travel Tools app
Evil Panda
17 Feb 16#542
Small update, it now change from Pending Purchase to just Purchase now on the Supercard.
My credit card still show it's pending £1.
robot1000
18 Feb 162#543
I had the same issue with them not refunding to my linked card. I spoke to them and they had to manually process it. Quite disappointing.
Evil Panda
19 Feb 16#544
Yep, £1 has been charger on my credit card, was going to take it with me on my holiday tomorrow but now I won't. I'll try it again when I get back.
jnm21
26 Feb 16#545
Just came on here to see how refunds seem to be handled - looks like I may have to go for a refund on some AerLingus flights (they have moved the flight by over 4 hours) & I want to change to a flight that is cheaper to re-book.
Anyone else had refunds work/not work & any comments on how quickly they resolve issues with them?
jnm21
26 Feb 16#546
Sorry to hear that you have had issues - I have used mine heavily on 2 trips (plus the odd ebay purchase) with no issues. I just fear that this may get pulled due to the EU capping the merchant fees (M&S have slashed their loyalty scheme & UKASH have gone from zero fees to silly fees as a result).
exit_music
27 Feb 16#547
Used on several trips, worked perfectly
JonathanCassar
28 Feb 16#548
will be using next weekend in Denmark and the week after in the states. Not expecting issues (well except a weak £)
will report back if any
kev1986
28 Feb 161#549
Hopefully that can be sorted out in 4 months time :smile:
jnm21
2 Mar 16#550
That confused me for a moment! For anyone else wondering, think 23rd June...
kev1986
2 Mar 16#551
:smiley:
kev1986
8 Mar 16#552
Trial ending 7th June :disappointed:
Then we all need to reapply for another card when they are publicly released.
kev1986
8 Mar 16#553
Thar
8 Mar 16#554
Thanks for the warning. Just hope they can get the new cards out before the Summer holiday season!
dinosteveus
8 Mar 161#555
Bet there's a charge when we apply for a new card.
Evil Panda
8 Mar 16#556
They have refund back some of the money, so I thought a might as well try it again and yes, it charge me £1 = $1 again.... 100% not going to use ther card anymore, phone them again for the refund when it stop pending purchase.
JonathanCassar
16 Mar 16#557
Very odd as just used it in Denmark and the States (mostly without issue)
a few transactions:
10 MAR SENOR FROG'S - ORLANDO, ORLANDO- (USD) 9.00=£6.35
The app says total savings: £263.87 (no sure if that's from inception etc?)
onehalfsingh
18 Apr 16#558
Hi guys,
Heading to the US in a few weeks. Are there any atms/banks i should avoid? Struggling to find any info on whether US banks charge for withdrawals with the card.
Thanks,
Mike
FTOdude170
27 Apr 16#559
maybe a bit of a silly question, but im going abroad next week and had intended to use it. whilst the card has a 2018 date on it, i noticed that the 'pilot' for the card ends in 'JUNE' and the cards wont work after that. however, my n00b question is, which year is this 'June'? i havent used it yet.. had it over a year.. this thread was over a year old, and the website doesnt actually state which year. is it june 2016, or have i missed the window by a whole 10 months !!!! lol
edit, apologies, ive just re read all of post #553 and can see the email stating 2016. thanks
Thar
27 Apr 16#560
I was hoping the "new Supercard" scheme would be up and running by Summer but they're leaving it a bit late.
JonathanCassar
28 Apr 16#561
I think the new scheme should have been up and running then they could have phased the pilot people over. To me it seems stupid to have loss of service when there's no need
scubascuba3
5 May 16#562
I have a card which was part of the trial, anyone know whether Travelex will issue a new card automatically in June when it goes live?
kev1986
5 May 16#563
Has June been confirmed? I thought it was just "This summer" and the end of the pilot is 7th June.
scubascuba3
6 May 16#564
Impression i got was it would be June, they've already decided to go live but it isn't clear what happens next to trial people. I think they will issue a new card but i got an email yesterday about registering, no mention of me being an account holder already
Thar
6 May 16#565
I haven't had an email yet, I'll look out for one, thanks.
sham63
14 Jun 16#566
Just got the email regarding the new card. You have to re-apply even if you had one before. They've also introduced a fee of 2.99% for ATM withdrawals.
Opening post
Sort of like a physical PayPal account as it's linked to your usual debit/credit card - your card will be charged in GBP. Interesting concept IMO and means I can close accounts specifically opened for foreign usage.
Fees apply for UK usage. It's not clear if cash withdrawals with a linked credit card would count as a cash or purchase transaction.
Launched May.
One clarification on twitter: you can only link to Visa or MasterCard, not Amex. https://twitter.com/SupercardUK/status/577582863295647745
- jnm21
Apologies for multiple edits - also confirmation that it will work for foreign websites like Amazon.de: https://twitter.com/SupercardUK/status/576072005042216960
- jnm21
Further cards released
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Let me tell you guys what I know about payment transactions and FX rates, some might find it very interesting.
There are three main parties who take a small chunk of the money you pay to the retailer - the payment processor (normally a subsidiary of a financial institution, a familiar example would be iZettle), Visa, and the card issuing bank. There may be multiple payment processors involved in a given transaction. For the sake of simplicity, I'll describe the below assuming there is just one payment processor.
In a normal UK GBP transaction, the retailer is charged 0.5% - 2% of the transaction cost by the payment processor depending on the negotiation between the two. Visa then charges anywhere between 30% - 50% of this transaction cost to the payment processor to transfer the money from the credit/debit card to the retailers account. A small but fixed amount (generally a few pennies) is paid to the card issuing bank. Consider an example. You buy a £1000 tele from Amazon.co.uk with your Visa card. Since Amazon.co.uk is a large retailer, their payment processor would charge them 0.5% fees = £5 to facilitate this payment. The payment processor will then pay, say 30% of this fee to Visa, 30% of £5 = £1.50. Visa then pays a fixed cost to you card issuing bank, say 5p.
When FX comes into picture, Visa adds a nominal 1% - 3% on top of the wholesale FX rate (this is your the exchange rate quoted on Visa's website) The payment processor still gets the same cut, but the cut for Visa and the issuing bank increases. To give an example, you buy a tele from Amazon.de for €1400. Again, since Amazon.de is a large retailer, their payment processor will charge a small fee or 0.5% = €7. Again, 30% of this fee goes to Visa, i.e 30% of €7 = €2.10. Your issuing bank still gets paid a higher fixed charge of 10p by Visa for helping facilitate an FX transfer. Say the wholesale € to £ rate is 1.401. Visa charges your issuing bank a rate of 1.400, taking a small cut (I'll explain the cut later). If your issuing bank doesn't charge any FX fees, it charges you €1400/1.4 = £1000 for the transaction. If your issuing bank charges a fee (say 2.5%, which is largely the norm), it bumps up the FX rate in its favour by 2.5%, i.e. 1.4 - (2.5% of 1.4) = 1.365, and charges you €1400/1.365 = £1025.64, pocketing the £25.64.
As for the money Visa makes in FX transactions, in the above example, Visa gets £1000 from your bank and has to transfer €1400 (minus costs) to the retailers account. Visa buys €1400 from the wholesale market at a rate of 1.401 paying in £. So Visa pays €1400/1.401 = £999.29. So now it pocketed £1000 - £999.29 = £0.71 as FX fees.
Now let's come to the matter at hand - the Supercard. This is all speculation since I don't know of a similar model that exists (paypal is different since it is its own payment processor). It might be the case that TravelEx, who is the issuing bank, has negotiated a better deal with Visa for these transactions (think about it, TravelEx is a huge FX broker, I am sure it has sorted out some deal with Visa to take a cut of the transaction fees that Visa makes, and in return provide a favourable wholesale rate to Visa?). The credit/debit card issuing bank gets paid as per a normal UK GBP transaction.
If my understanding is correct, looks like this model might be sustainable and other FX brokers (ICE, etc) will be coming up with similar models.
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Sounds good this , will think .. Though Metrobank offer the same with no fees in the UK of course.
I imagine if you link it to a Credit card and use it for ATM withdrawal you ought to get it interest free too.
Cheers OP
Visa (debit) use more or less the same bad exchange rates as all the others
I just mean as it's Visa and not MasterCard. If it's fee free it's a good back up. Only registered interest so will check it out further once I need to apply or not for full T&Cs.
pretty smart idea possibly.
Credit card cash withdrawals apparently are a sign of financial disorganisation to lenders. Same is true of payday loans [washes mouth out with soap] - they are death to mortgage applications for up to 2 years depending on the lender (6 months & no more than 1 in 12 months being more common).
Valid to point out that they are Gibraltar based, however I would not see that as all bad - a very shrewd country; they have a national surplus (rather than national debit) & are reducing income tax as a result - not may economies in Europe can say that.
The card costs £6.95 one off charge and they also text you every time you use the card with the amount and remaining balance.
As for the Travelex card - might be okay but if they are based in Gibralter who are they regulated by and how reliable/trustworthy are they likely to be? Think I will give this a miss.
All transactions charged to Supercard are processed by your bank as domestic payments, rather than foreign ones – saving you bank roaming charges whether you’re in Bali or Berlin. To get started, add at least one of your existing credit or debit cards to your in-app Supercard mobile wallet - you can add up to 5. Once your Supercard arrives in the post you’re ready to spend! Your bank card is only charged when you use your Supercard, so you don’t have to preload your card with foreign currency, or buy any foreign currency upfront. Supercard processes transactions using the Visa Exchange Rate, with no commission or foreign-exchange fees added on.
Pros: good exchange rates, lack of fees
Cons: you can only top up the card once a day, and if you have friends and family cards, you can only make one transfer a day without having to contact customer service (because, so they say, extra transactions get flagged as potential fraud).
http://www.nandp.co.uk/current-account/
Transfer £500 in and then straight back out to keep it active.
Here is direct quotation:
- Link your existing debit or credit cards to Supercard through the app
- Pay with Supercard
- Use Supercard to avoid foreign-transaction fees when you spend money abroad.
Where is here saying that they are using "VISA GLOBAL exchange rate" .
Yes "avoid foreign-transaction fees is stated clearly", but they might be using their own conversion rate. If this is the case, it will undoubtedly, it will be lower than "VISA GLOBAL exchange rate" for very obvious reason.
Knowing the Travelex business background I pretty much doubt that they are using VISA GLOBAL exchange rate".
VISA GLOBAL exchange rate" is the rate you will get if you are using the specialist no fee for non-sterling transaction to be used abroad for CC (e.g clarity card, Santander Zero) or DC.( e.g Metro bank to be used in the EU, N&P, Santander Zero).
Other possibility: when you withdraw the cash, it will be tagged as Cash Advances and you will be paying the fee for this.
But too good to be true could still turn to be true but we will need to hear testimony from people who has used it not theory or assumption ....
I'd need confirmation that it's definitely the official visa fx rate, the blurb isn't concrete enough for me.
My bank account which I use to link there isn't additional charges applied by them. This point needs to be in the FAQs
http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/12/travelexs-supercard-eliminates-bank-charges-when-spending-abroa/
Also as this card is linked to your debit card as an option you shouldn't need to make transfers to cover the cash withdrawal like Clarity.
"You can connect up to five of your own accounts, travel to a far-away destination and it'll automatically deduct your purchases using Visa's own exchange rate."
Seems pretty clear to me.
Let me tell you guys what I know about payment transactions and FX rates, some might find it very interesting.
There are three main parties who take a small chunk of the money you pay to the retailer - the payment processor (normally a subsidiary of a financial institution, a familiar example would be iZettle), Visa, and the card issuing bank. There may be multiple payment processors involved in a given transaction. For the sake of simplicity, I'll describe the below assuming there is just one payment processor.
In a normal UK GBP transaction, the retailer is charged 0.5% - 2% of the transaction cost by the payment processor depending on the negotiation between the two. Visa then charges anywhere between 30% - 50% of this transaction cost to the payment processor to transfer the money from the credit/debit card to the retailers account. A small but fixed amount (generally a few pennies) is paid to the card issuing bank. Consider an example. You buy a £1000 tele from Amazon.co.uk with your Visa card. Since Amazon.co.uk is a large retailer, their payment processor would charge them 0.5% fees = £5 to facilitate this payment. The payment processor will then pay, say 30% of this fee to Visa, 30% of £5 = £1.50. Visa then pays a fixed cost to you card issuing bank, say 5p.
When FX comes into picture, Visa adds a nominal 1% - 3% on top of the wholesale FX rate (this is your the exchange rate quoted on Visa's website) The payment processor still gets the same cut, but the cut for Visa and the issuing bank increases. To give an example, you buy a tele from Amazon.de for €1400. Again, since Amazon.de is a large retailer, their payment processor will charge a small fee or 0.5% = €7. Again, 30% of this fee goes to Visa, i.e 30% of €7 = €2.10. Your issuing bank still gets paid a higher fixed charge of 10p by Visa for helping facilitate an FX transfer. Say the wholesale € to £ rate is 1.401. Visa charges your issuing bank a rate of 1.400, taking a small cut (I'll explain the cut later). If your issuing bank doesn't charge any FX fees, it charges you €1400/1.4 = £1000 for the transaction. If your issuing bank charges a fee (say 2.5%, which is largely the norm), it bumps up the FX rate in its favour by 2.5%, i.e. 1.4 - (2.5% of 1.4) = 1.365, and charges you €1400/1.365 = £1025.64, pocketing the £25.64.
As for the money Visa makes in FX transactions, in the above example, Visa gets £1000 from your bank and has to transfer €1400 (minus costs) to the retailers account. Visa buys €1400 from the wholesale market at a rate of 1.401 paying in £. So Visa pays €1400/1.401 = £999.29. So now it pocketed £1000 - £999.29 = £0.71 as FX fees.
Now let's come to the matter at hand - the Supercard. This is all speculation since I don't know of a similar model that exists (paypal is different since it is its own payment processor). It might be the case that TravelEx, who is the issuing bank, has negotiated a better deal with Visa for these transactions (think about it, TravelEx is a huge FX broker, I am sure it has sorted out some deal with Visa to take a cut of the transaction fees that Visa makes, and in return provide a favourable wholesale rate to Visa?). The credit/debit card issuing bank gets paid as per a normal UK GBP transaction.
If my understanding is correct, looks like this model might be sustainable and other FX brokers (ICE, etc) will be coming up with similar models.
Hot Deal!
Slightly off topic, I think I will stick to Halifax Clarity Rewards CC for cash withdrawals, as I used it everywhere from China to Ivory Coast with no issues whatsoever. You can even avoid the interest if you are diligent enough to pay off the card via online banking the same day.
Agreed, if you get the rates from the likes of xe.com, oanda.com, etc, you get the mid mark price (not the bid or ask), so the difference appears very small. However, it is the bid/ask that Visa pays to the FX brokers. Moreover, the FX market is completely OTC (regulations were introduced after the 2008 crisis to put some controls over these and make these more of an exchange styled markets, but given the nature of FX, it is very difficult to completely standardise these markets), so two parties negotiate over the phone - so there's always some leeway in fixing the prices.
Travelex give some of the worst exchange rates around...
Much better cards out there, even if they do require topping up.
FairFX for example gives 11 cents more on the Euro & Dollar compared to Travelex.
But you are right, it is a minor hassle.
It's a pity that Metro now restrict free ATM withdrawals to EU countries, so this does look like a possible replacement.
The point is exchange rates actually.
Tried and tested MANY times!
If you cant afford to clear it, flip it to a no fee 0% balance transfer card, jobs a good un.
Thanks :smile:
Keep in mind people are using this mainly for foreign cash withdrawal. For non-sterling purchase there are already a few zero fee credit card available in the UK.
I like the idea that you don't need to load it. I checked another one like this and any money u load stays with the card unless you cancel it. I go to the US in may!! I hope this comes out by then. with this card you wont get any extra changes if you don't use it over 12 months etc.
Get a halifax clarity card or any other mastercard with no foreign transaction and cash fees.
PrePay cards may be poor value generally, but there are ways to use them efficiently (take £5 to £10 cashback on a €200 loaded Caxton € card with no ATM fees; your rate just got a lot better)! :smiley:
It's a bit of a generalisation to say that people are using this for foreign cash withdrawal. What about people that can't get a credit card, or dont want a credit card?
If you look at GBP/PLN MC: 1/5.90 VIS: 1/5.80.
If you spend 100quid for the extra 10PLN you can get a 4 pack of beer now that's something lol
So you would recommend taking out like 500€, which would be a security risk, may even involve €100 notes (which most of the places I frequent would not take), on my recent holiday would have devalued by over 5% during my holiday & still cost me over 2.8% in fees on my Nationwide Debit Card.
Let me think; with this Supercard, if true to the promises, being charged at the same time I could take out 20€ or 500€ as I choose with NO FEE.
You need to take your head out of the sand & stop your childish 'pre-paid card rip off' rants.
To summarise; Supercard, if true to the promises, charges your normal card at the same time with NO FEE - possibly saving up to 7% fees (on €20). No brainer! If everyone took up this offer (rather than wanting to pay fees to their bank), it would be profitable for Travelex (making it a fixture) & would likely force the banks to remove the huge fees.
For anyone wanting to travel cost effectively, unless you have one of they very limited Debit Card options with no fees (Metro, Peterborough, etc.) then, if this supercard does what it says on the tin, it is gold dust. Back it up with a true prepaid card like Caxton (using cashback to uplift the rate on the minimum load). The Halifax Clarity CC is another option, but research the effect of CC cash advances on your credit rating first.
Live in London.
If I purchase an item from one of the other european Amazon sites, e.g Amazon.de or amazon.es, to deliver to me in the UK, and I pay directly in euro's (rather than using the amazon to do it for me) - would this be classed as a domestic transaction on the supercard (50p charge in faqs), or would it be overhead free?
I am really struggling to see where the profit will come from this - too good to be true keeps playing in my head...
Either our suspicions or their confidence in their "clever technology" are misplaced. Based on them being right, I want to know how it decides which of your normal cards to charge?
Some good questions asked at the end of the article here: http://www.headforpoints.com/2015/03/14/supercard-from-travelex-reviewed/
If you're successful in getting onto the Supercard pilot, we'll be in touch as we get closer to launch, to let you know what you need to do next. Demand is expected to be very high and supply during the pilot is limited, so if we can't get a Supercard to you immediately, we'll be sure to keep you in the loop and let you know when we can.
After the initial fanfare I think that there will be a quite a few disappointed with the apparent delay; and does nothing but potential reputational damage to the company. Surely it wouldn't have been hard for them them to send an email keeping people up to date.
If something is too good to be true it usually is!
I now have myself a Post Office Card that will do..
I said it's all gone quiet over there,
It's all gone quiet, all gone quiet, all gone quiet over there!"
:smile:
https://twitter.com/SupercardUK/status/595602543289475073
I have now downloaded the App from Google Play and have requested my card, which is being sent to me.
Maybe a bit annoying you can't do this on a computer and need use a mobile device, although I guess it makes the card easier to use when abroad.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.travelex.supercard&hl=en_GB
At this stage it appears there was no advantage to registering in advance.
Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.travelex.supercard
Apple https://itunes.apple.com/GB/app/id981065202
EDIT: Downloaded the app and filled in the application and does say the card is on the way. Presume people will say it in here so will see when it arrives. From what I've read online seems like a perfect solution to spending abroad so will have to see :smiley:
EDIT: LMAO - they just emailed me to say live & start downloading - 8 hours after I registered!
Super-hot deal, a massive game-changer in how we spend abroad I suspect.
Either way it's a shambles from the start.
And can I use a different postal address from the one that I give to my bank?
Taking yesterday as an example, the Visa GBP-USD exchange rate (from here) was 1 GBP = 1.5357 USD whereas the MasterCard exchange rate (from here) was 1 GBP = 1.5707 USD, a difference of over 2%.
Similarly, on a recent European holiday (using my Nationwide FlexPlus fee-free debit card) I got a cash withdrawal rate of 1 GBP = 1.35410 EUR, whereas the MasterCard exchange rate on the same day was 1 GBP = 1.372842 EUR, a difference of almost 1.5%
Definitely a great idea, but I would be far happier to see MasterCard eventually offer a similar service.
EDIT: Yep no fees at abroad ATMs too, these FAQs are extremely useful for anyone like me who has never used these card before: https://www.supercard.io/faqs
1. If you accidentally overpay, your credit card balance can actually go into debit, which is against the T&Cs on the account, and can cause problems (up to and including cancellation). Overpayment may occur if you transfer cash and it arrives on the same time as a scheduled Direct Debit, for example.
2. The interest charges are tiny. Typically less than 50p per month, never (for me) more than £1.
Very disappointed
For ATM withdrawals abroad, you can get charged by the local bank, but it should tell you onscreen. Halifax won't charge you, but it will start charging interest straight away. You can avoid this by keeping a positive balance on your credit card.
We are experiencing significant demand at present. Please check back later.
Buffoons!
"Your supercard is now in the post and on the way to you"
You *can* keep a positive balance on it, but you're not meant to.
Try to see what other people are doing to get a much better deal than what you have got with prepaid card such as Caxton, ....
Let's say I withdrew €500 and didn't pay it off for a month cos I'm being lazy on a beach somewhere, lol.
CC current apr is 17.95% so less than 1.5%/month. Does that mean I'd end up paying a max €7.5 interest on the €500 for a month?
Cheers
Tried on Android app - and received the mail in the past couple of minutes.
Keep trying people.
got it!
Have applied for the traveled supervised too so will be nice to have both available if it comes before an upcoming holiday.
Don't the savings get cancelled out once you take p&p into account or are you picking up/getting somebody else to pick up in the US?
Suggest you get a decent phone :stuck_out_tongue:
Agree with guy above, doubt you'll get anywhere near Halifax Clarity rates which tend to be close to Interbank...
Clarity is not an option for me because I wouldn't pass a credit check.
I suppose the Supercard would be valid for online transactions, but Travelex is not very transparent in their T&C.
There are three areas of failures
Android: The first screen asking email is a failure screen, I would rate the failure as 3 out of 10 in difficulties
iPhone: It is better than Android for this screen as on the app it asks you to enter email and phone number in one screen, so the failure rating for iPhone here is 2 out of 10
Address entry:
For me it sometimes failed to find my address, so I ended up entering manually using the manual address entry option, I would rate this as 1 out of 10 for failure
Security details submission page
This is the mother of all failures, I would rate it 9 out 10 in terms of difficulties. I found iPhone having more failure than Android app at this stage, so I gave up trying iPhone. On Android I found a trick to speed up the retries by pressing the multitask button and again coming back to the Supercard app when I saw the "Registering" dialog is taking more than a couple of minutes(it did take more than 10 minutes before showing me error on Android). This trick helped me a lot to speed up the retries. I just have tried like 100 times if not more before this trick and failed, after the trick I tried like 10 times and it went through to next stage
The final failure:
I found that during the security details submission page the "Registering" dialog changes to "Initialising Security card", this means the request must have passed through the registration and was trying to initialise the card, I had one failure at this stage in my Android app which means when I started the app I had to start from beginning, but luckily using the trick I mentioned earlier I went through quickly and managed to get the registration successful screen in the end along with an email stating my card is on the way through post. Good Luck to all who have time and patience to try registering. The concept is good but the execution could have been better by arranging a first register interest and first get served for the pilot.
I do recall having issues getting an Asda one before and I believe those are (were?) Travelex too so maybe I'm blacklisted!
i quit the application once and came back later but my registration details were saved on there so just kept pressing submit until it went through...once you see it change to 'creating card' you know you are in but took about 5min from there to get to congratulations screen!
IMPORTANT UPDATE: 5.59pm 13 May 2015
Supercard* was included in today's weekly email which is sent in batches to 11m people over 18 hours. Travelex has drowned with demand since batch 1 - even though we pre-warned it and it had said it would cope. Its site's struggling and it's talking of closing the pilot. I'm afraid it looks like we're the Kryptonite to Supercard. Here's the latest status:
Supercard is still live and available, though its website is struggling - some are getting through, some not.
It originally said numbers were limited but didn't give a cap. It has now told us it will cap the number of cards at 25,000. Currently 12,500 have gone, but mainly as some people are struggling to get through.
We hear some people are being told "we aren’t able to get a card to you right now". We believe this is because it has decided to not give it to people who don't travel often. We have explained we believe that is inappropriate communication and it needs to explain that the card is open but it has now added qualifying criteria.
Some people have got other error messages, or indication they won't get a card. Frankly it is creaking at the sides. The information we put here is coming from the people at the top. And we are in communication with them and asking for hourly updates, which we will then pass on here.
We are waiting to hear what the status is for people who completed the application but got an error message at the last stage.
We will next update this at 9pm or earlier if all cards have gone before then.
EDIT : Just got confirmation email.
UPDATE - Confirmation email arrived shortly after posting. Keep trying guys it will eventually let you register.
Tried to register via iPhone lastnight and at the end it kept saying, "something has went wrong", and other similar error messages. So just gave up after 5 mins.
Tonight, at 7pm I got a confirmation email saying I'm successfully registered and card will be on it's way, follow instructions/no signature required.
So the upshot is, the details must be going through and around 15 hours later in my experience you'll probably get a email.
They must be experiencing high levels of applications.
See here
Would you like me to? :smiley: LOL
The answer has been given many times, e.g. in my last edit of the OP (bottom of the top post on every page), with link to their twitter answer.
is that some sort of credit check!??
Just give me your password and mother's maiden name, and I shall check for you...
I got two emails! I hope they don't send me two cards (only because that way some poor sod missed out!)
However, I clicked on Google Play for Android on the bottom of said page, installed app that way on my phone, added all details and it took 3 minutes from start to finish - my card is on it's way. Result B|
Apparently MSE are saying pilot scheme is now closed... l
Just got the email to say that they have cards left.
Opened the app again and registered - card is on the way.
Just got email today to say card is on the way.
Any idea when we are made aware of account number? This seems to be required to sign in to the app but I haven't been given one - or will it become apparent when the card arrives?
After downloading and installing the app, filling all necessary details and being disqualified, I have received two text messages regarding PPI. I couldn't believe this was related to the Supercard app, then I checked on the MSE forum and a couple of posters had exactly the same problem.
This whole business looks like a glorified scam. I have uninstalled the app and will not touch Travelex with a bargepole.
Scratch that, I just successfully tied my credit card to my supercard via the app.
Expired?
I ticked not to receive any promotional stuff from them and nothing here so far.
Cheers
Cheers
Interestingly, the pin only has 4 digits, and the security code at the back only has 3 digits.
Quite clearly it is not a standard UK visa card, I wonder whether it classified as debit or credit card?
It isn't a credit card, more like a debit card or hybrid, each transaction is funded so no credit. I read the T&Cs yesterday which look professional and gives much more detail. Available on the supercard site.
I have a few visa cards with 6 digits pin, which are all issued abroad apparently...
cvv are always 3 digits, true. what I mean is usually there are 7 digits at the back (4+3). this one only got 3 digits
The back is one of the standards for a Visa Card but you are right mine is different too.
https://twitter.com/SupercardUK/status/600387892716838912
"We understand the delay in card delivery.
Due to many duplicate applications there has been delay in production of cards. Our designated team is already working on it to expedite the process. Also, we have noticed that some of our customers have their cards. Thus, we would request you to bear with us.
Further to your query, in order to login online in your account we request you to wait for the card to be delivered."
If so, my registration was confirmed on 13th May and therefore still within the time.
Hello,
Welcome to Supercard, and what a couple of weeks it’s been! When we launched two weeks ago, demand went through the roof – there are clearly many more people in the UK than we first imagined, who want to eliminate their bank card roaming fees when spending abroad.
With this being the case, we decided to release another batch of Supercards, so that more of you could take part in the pilot. And you’re one of the lucky few selected to be part of our extended pilot!
We’re now working through the initial list first and getting these cards in the post as quickly as is (super) humanly possible. But with all the extra cards we’ve released, this means there will be a delay before your Supercard wings its way to you. It may be a few weeks, but we are beavering away and if we can get it to you any quicker, we will.
Thanks once again for joining us on this journey, we’ll be sure to keep you updated.
Best wishes,
The Supercard team
13 may I applied have emailed them see what they say.
E-mailed CS with no response in a week, phoned some weird sounding lady who took my number and said "I get call back" which never happened...
Great customer service so far :smile:
Anyway we'll find out soon I guess
Anyone else notice the mistake in the second batch email? I think the wording means that they underestimated the number of people in the UK! Good old English where word order changes the meaning!
Is it as good as they say?
Somehow the exchange rate is the wrong way round but I get what it means :smile:
Still don't have my card yet, but as post above ordered on 13th
£2.63
$4.00
1 USD = 0.6575
Estimated Saving £2.10, i'm sure its more than that as I think its £2.50 a transaction my account charges plus x%
£13.13 - $19.95 (£0.658145 = $1) - Compared to the 0.6575 I got a few hours ago.
Paypal wanted £13.56 for the same transaction.
Not a lot saved, but they do add up. I am at a loss as to how these guys make any money.
Gives us some hope that cards may be in the post. Was just about giving up. Will be a few months before I get chance to test unfortunately (since they missed their stated 'late April' release by over a month).
I've used it online with Aliexpress and apparently saved £2.33 on a £12 transaction. The exchange rate was marginally lower than the xe.com currency app when I checked it on the phone a minute or two later. All in all I'm very impressed.
A welcome addition to my clarity credit card!
I have a Zero card with Santander; so I am going to look for a couple of cheap foreign purchases, to purchase at same time, to see which comes out cheaper.
So far then Supercard wins.
I see that card.
"Supercard"
You promised me you'd sent it to me the other day.
but you never did.
Well, I'm alone now...
Waiting, for it to come...
So Supercard is the winner!
XE.com £1.71
Paypal £1.79 & (drum roll please)
Supercard £1.73
Not too bad!
Has anyone else experienced issues using it online?
Given this that's probably why it won't work at 25000 ft
I read with interest that you can withdraw cash via a linked Credit Card rather than linked Debit Card, and not suffer from Cash Advance fees. I'll be testing this out and will report back (unless anyone has already tested this and got a definitive answer??). I guess I could switch it to the Debit Card for cash withdrawals, but that's a bit of a faff I could do without!
because my one seems to take ages, i'm not complaining, just feeling weird...I paid about 4k on a few air tickets 5 days ago, and it still haven't shown up on my bill. it's a good thing in a way but it worrys me...
As an aside it would be fun to link a Supercard to a Supercard both ways and see if you could put the system in a loop!
Do you link your debit or credit card to your Supercard?
Amazon's currency converter wanted £308.86, Travelex charged me £298.30
I just renewed my VPN subscription of $24.50 their website accepted cards, as well as Paypal.
Supercard won again:
website card processor = 1.51048 = £16.22
paypal = 1.53861 = £15.92
supercard rate = 1.58371 = £15.47
Ok not epic in cash terms but over 7 cents is a large difference in rate, and all free
Day 1: HUF/GBP- Halifax won by 1.2% (437.4HUF/GBP with Hal vs. 432.3HUF/GBP vs. Supercard)
Day 2: HUF/GBP- Halifax and Supercard were the same
Day 3: HUF/GBP- Halifax and Supercard same again
EUR/GBP- Halifax won by 0.6% (1.40EUR/GBP with Hal vs. 1.39EUR/GBP with Supercard)
Xe.com said £17.55 and the supercard transaction came out at £17.54!
Very happy with this card so far!
Has anyone actually withdrawn cash abroad yet linked to a credit card?
I got email confirmation that the transaction is processed as a purchase rather than cash.
I took €40 cash out and it shows up on the CC statement "TMS Supercard SOCRAM Chester GBR £28.76 DR"
I have the card linked to my debit card so for cash withdrawals I'll use that.
While you are on with it, call Tesco and tell them all the misprices.
Anyway, I finally received the card today! No instructions apart from to log on to the app. I suppose I'm supposed to guess that the account number is what is printed on the card. I entered it into the app,but keep getting "looks like something's gone wrong, please try again later". A feeling of deja-vu all over again...
I don't get why they don't vanish once they expire. I tried to explain this on the phone but as their list does update the guy couldn't understand why I'm querying a transaction he couldn't see!
Overall its an inconvenience, but an annoying one!
I'm reconciling the transactions on the super card app vs my statement from my last trip. I'll report back
10/07/2015 All transactions finally posted so it seems two weeks is the maximum time. The rate is set at time of transaction so the only downside is not knowing for a few weeks where you are with the card you are posting to
Ordered a phone online using supercard, went through fine and appeared on the app.
The website (gearbest) then emailed saying as part of the online security policy they wanted a picture of the card I used to pay and my driving licence or passport. I refused to this so they refunded me. The original transaction from 30th June shows on the app but no refund shows(do they show) and the money has now been taken from my debit card. I'n a bit concerned with how a refund would work
I've emailed supercard twice but no response!
Any ideas?
When I pay at amazon France shall I deselect the Amazon currency settings?
http://www.visaeurope.com/making-payments/exchange-rates
just for the record when I send money via western union using my visa credit card they class it as a cash transaction.
However I was unable to withdraw cash from any ATMs in the Philippines recently despite numerous attempts with all linked cards.
Very disappointed. Anyone been able to draw cash in SE Asia ?
I had to pay £45 in CC fees when I booked my holiday! It would have only cost me 50p if I did it a few months back.
it justs says this card cannot be linked try another
Supercard said to me "We have checked our records and found that the transaction got declined due to chip and pin issue. We request you to please try to use the card on CHIP and PIN terminals with Visa acceptance"
It was Starbucks so i cant believe they dont accept visa. My Revolut Mastercard was accepted fine.
But always good to have a backup have a Revolut too
So far I've used in USA, Ireland, Holland and Egypt without issue either way I'd take a backup just in case :smiley:
Most banks now charge 200 baht atm fee
http://imgur.com/sSJRY97
UK: 0207 078 2720 International: +44 203 503 0945
I would definitely would be checking my card regularly.
17 FEB LONDON , WWW.ALIEXPRESS.COM,- (USD) 5.89=£4.11
Exchange Rate 1 USD = 0.70 GBP
You've saved £2.14 GBP
So it seems OK
click here
I wanted it for ATM withdrawals in S.E.Asia and it has been a complete failure. Tried in various countries with it linked to different cards...phoned them twice and they said each time "try again, we have unlocked it" but same problem. Anyone else had this?
Gone back to using my Halifax Clarity card now.
Can someone who has used both comment on which works out cheapest for foreign cash withdrawals please?
I'm off to Denmark next month so will use it then, an then off to the states so will use it again there.
I always take back up plastic (Revolut santander zero and a Clarity card) so far though the Supercard has worked fine.
The supercard needs realtime online transactions, so wouldn't expect 100% coverage.
ALWAYS take backup cards just in case!
My credit card still show it's pending £1.
Anyone else had refunds work/not work & any comments on how quickly they resolve issues with them?
will report back if any
Then we all need to reapply for another card when they are publicly released.
a few transactions:
10 MAR SENOR FROG'S - ORLANDO, ORLANDO- (USD) 9.00=£6.35
Exchange Rate1 USD = 0.71 GBP
You've saved £2.15 GBP
06 MAR7-ELEVEN KVIKK, KOBENHAVN V- (DKK) 25.00=£2.60
Exchange Rate1 DKK = 0.10 GBP
You've saved £2.10 GBP
16 MARRICHFIELD , BEST BUY 0994,- (USD) 1,214.07=£858.36
Exchange Rate1 USD = 0.71 GBP
You've saved £29.85 GBP
I hope it stays free, once officially launched!
The app says total savings: £263.87 (no sure if that's from inception etc?)
Heading to the US in a few weeks. Are there any atms/banks i should avoid? Struggling to find any info on whether US banks charge for withdrawals with the card.
Thanks,
Mike
edit, apologies, ive just re read all of post #553 and can see the email stating 2016. thanks
I was hoping the "new Supercard" scheme would be up and running by Summer but they're leaving it a bit late.