This is a steal for price. Amazing camera, hardened screen, superb camera, HUUUUUGE battery with free goodies until the end of September.
I hope it does not bend ;-)
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petethebigone
26 Sep 1417#7
I bought a phone from them, never again, it had a problem from new, they told me that it would cost me a lot of money to send it back and it would take weeks to be sorted, then offerd me about a fiver to keep it, my advice is AVIOD
jon67
27 Sep 1410#20
Does this come with free Chinese spyware built in !
welder299
26 Sep 145#9
Great advice. will AVOID. Thanks
bdt_1978 to otonytonton
3 Oct 145#95
Normally means you are unable to remove the battery
Latest comments (148)
wirdy
22 Sep 16#148
Had my THL5000 for 18 months now. Still a great phone.
Only one hardware problem was the speaker went crackly. I'm ok with electronics (needed two tiny wires soldering), so a £8 new speaker direct from THL and it has been fine since. The screen can be a bit picky about being clean and seems like the screen is unresponsive when lots of greasy fingerprints are on it. A good clean with proper degreasing screen cleaner and its fine. Battery life superb. So Bang for buck - great phone.
samanfard
21 Nov 14#145
Seller has taken it up to £185!! dont know how to attach my screen shot of order:
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iliko to samanfard
23 Nov 14#147
What ws the ebay Item Id? Does it give warranty?
chickentikkaman
22 Nov 14#146
thanks
samanfard
20 Nov 14#143
For anyone still looking. Just got one of these off ebay for £147 with free post.
chickentikkaman to samanfard
20 Nov 14#144
Hi samanfard, sounds good to me, have you a link for that please?
jugg
12 Oct 14#142
thl phone industrial design feeling okay. Many new models are beautiful, the quality is relatively stable. W3 family with dual-core version. Price is fairly affordable, simple trial a few days, to run smoothly, it should be no problem. Test run points more than in 5000, the Internet is no Caton and crashes, playing the game a little hot, but compared to other similar machines Andrews, accessories are good, the screen resolution saturation are very good. Life long. If there is any shortage, I think the point of the thin plastic cover, if it is metal, then fine. http://www.comprarbaratosmoviles.com/leagoo-lead-1-k550-quad-core-los-ultimos-estilos http://www.movilesbaratoschinos.com/leagoo-lead-1-k550-mtk6582-quad-core-5-5-pulgadas
ykassana
9 Oct 141#141
I say this with respect. I have owned a phone shop for many years and I make phones my business. Trust me when I say this. The current chinese phones from THL, Jiayu and and many others have better build quality than sammy or HTC - by miles. I would even argue better cameras.
Crossbow
9 Oct 14#140
About the same price (£168.50) rooted (includes +$5) on the MiniDeal site - with all the other 'free' bits included:
I looked at the Z7Mini, Huawei Ascend P7, Huawei Honor6 - all 4G dual sim but none covering 800 band.
Doesn't the Samsung S5 Dual Sim work on the 800 band?
iliko
6 Oct 141#137
I think the question is is this better deal or not. To me the heat of the deal answer to it. You can post ZTE deal here as well and fellow HUKDer will value your deal accordingly.
muttyhc
6 Oct 14#136
reviews are all positive, lovely camera too by the looks of it, may upgrade my moto g.
den169
6 Oct 14#135
Same here i have a star 9051 best phone iv'e had £115 a year ago.My last uk phone was a £250 lg.I'll never buy a phone off the uk networks again.The star has been rock solid dual sim and a great battery.
hopefully_useful
6 Oct 14#134
Sorry you are right it is not the same price but maybe still within a similar budget for people considering this phone. No its not gorilla glass, yes it is IPS. I was interested in the lenovo A806 (£130) myself drawn to the 8 mediatek processor but have decided to wait for future developments with this chip. It was just an alternative option maybe someone might want to look into.
True the ZTE only has quad core........this is not a big difference in terms of overall performance of the phone (benchmarks in reviews). I did not go into a comparison versus number of cores as they are different chips by different brands. It is more comparable if in fact they were both mediatek chips then it could be a fair comparison. There are mixed reviews over the performance of the 8 core mediatek processors and to me it seems like they have been pushed out too early and do not have components to match there potential. Therefore more of a sales push and effectively bottlenecking devices. I am sure they will have advantages in the future but for now the snapdragon chips have lower power consumption (no larger batteries needed) and much better integration with other chipsets enabling fast gps, stable wifi, faster memory support, smoother graphics and intregated 4g.
nik1
5 Oct 14#133
gobbledygook
nik1
5 Oct 14#132
if you read my earliest post I did say what went wrong. I don't need to be specific around any model. just that my experience of thl is rubbish
iliko
5 Oct 14#131
So what exactly went wrong? Why didn't you return it? You need to be more specific here and preferably around this model, this merchant and this price.
bauer
28 Sep 14#61
Can anyone tell me how the frequency will affect us in the UK. As its 850 and not 900
Will it mean slower 3g speeds? I'm on the three network.
I've tried googling but their seems to be little info regarding frequencies
jaydeeuk1 to bauer
3 Oct 14#74
I thought lower frequencies like 900 are better for penetrating buildings than higher frequencies, so without it you'll probably get naff all signal inside on three. (I'm on three too). Happy to be corrected, but its why I've never gone for one of these types of phones from DX (that an DX are utter crooks that shouldn't be allowed on here, but thats another story)
paul.crome to bauer
5 Oct 14#130
Not sure about 3 but Vodafone runs 3G over 900 in my area so 3G will simply not work. Some networks are ok. You need to go to the ofcom website and look at the mast info for your area. A lot of people ordering this will be very disappointed. Shame as it's a great phone for the money. Best bang for buck on the market IMHO.
bdt_1978
4 Oct 14#124
Hmm maybe because the pieces of junk are made in China!!!
ChampionshipManager to bdt_1978
5 Oct 141#129
Because the iPhone and Samsung phones aren't, right?
pibpob
4 Oct 14#128
Well you might think it's self-explanatory but that's only because you choose to ignore the confusion caused by use of the term. And your second sentence is just bizarre.
pibpob
4 Oct 14#127
I never said it wasn't. Read my posting more carefully.
pibpob
4 Oct 14#115
"Chinese" is an unfortunate catch-all term used by the ignorant to describe any phone not made by a big brand.
MaximusRo to pibpob
4 Oct 141#121
Can you think of a better one for phones designed for the chinese market (they come with "chinese" apps, I will let you explain this yet another catch-all term), a lot of times missing the radio bands used in the UK, missing Google Apps (banned by the Chinese government), and not sold (and supported) anywhere else in Europe? Would you really classify an Android phone that comes without Google Play app installed as just normal or would you class it as a Chinese phone because only the Chinese government banned Google Apss? We take it for granted, Android = Google Play, Google Maps, Google that and this.
They are also produced by companies that are completely unknown outside China. THL is a good example, but there are some even more exotic.
I would also refer you to comment #105 for more on this.
nik1 to pibpob
4 Oct 14#126
but this really is a Chinese made phone !!!! Jesus Christ
nik1
4 Oct 14#125
in fact bought from eBay. but it does not matter where I bought from because they were genuine THL phones not fakes. I am not generalizing my view on Chinese phones. my view is based on my experience of the thl brand
I am aware of branded goods being made in China. but they use superior materials and you pay the price.
MaximusRo
4 Oct 14#123
No, I think Chinese phones is self explanatory enough.
You had a problem with that so you should have come up with a different term. Which you weren't capable of doing...
pibpob
4 Oct 14#122
Yes I can think of a better term - "phones designed for the Chinese market" - as you yourself have just described them!
MaximusRo
4 Oct 14#120
Moto G dual sim, cheaper, UK warranty, UK bands.
Acer has a few Dual SIM models as well.
iliko
4 Oct 14#118
Just found in another website:
"Android is basically built upon Linux kernel which does utilize mulit-core. As far as single-threaded-application is concerned, remember that a thread can not be executed in-parts on different cores simultaneously. So although your single-thread can be executed by different cores at different point in times, it can not be sub-divided and executed by different cores at the same time.
Having said that, please be aware that chipset manufacturers like Qualcomm are developing intelligent processors capable of sub-dividing your single-threaded app into multiple threads and have it run on different cores. Here again, the basic principle remains same - in order to utilize multi-core, the single thread was sub-divided into multiple threads.
To get the most out of your multi-core chip, you would rather create a multi-threaded app, with maximum possible asynchronous threads, so as to have optimum utilization of maximum number of cores. Hope this clears.
EDIT:
This also translates to - An app that does not make use of multiple asynchronous threads (or any other parallelism construct) will NOT use more than one core."
jacksonliam to iliko
4 Oct 14#119
But android is a multitasking operating system.You can run multiple apps and they can be all doing things at once. Not to mention all the background tasks you can have going on.
Android app design guidelines, for a long time, have had a focus of pushing taks off the UI thead and onto background threads.
Yes, a quad core with a higher clock speed or better architecture would likely make more of a noticable impact than adding four more cores, but it does make some impact.
Also worth noting is the 'race to rest' - the method of saving battery life by having the processor completing tasks faster so it can clock down into a low power mode quicker.
iliko
4 Oct 14#117
That is true and as hardware grows bigger the apps using all those cores will emerge very soon especially the games. On the other hand why should I pay more for less cores?
pibpob
4 Oct 14#116
There's not really a big difference. It's not a processor that's twice as fast unless the software is using all those cores, and most appllcations won't take advantage of this.
iliko
4 Oct 14#114
First of all ZTE is not the same price, and second of all THL is 8-core CPU not Quad! and that is a BIG difference. ZTE screen, is it IPS, is it Gorilla Glass? Battery 3100 mAh vs. 5000mAh. Hmmm really, why should I buy ZTE and pay more?
iliko
4 Oct 14#113
Did you buy this phone from DX.com or something else? If you bought other phone from alibaba.com it is not related. You can not generalise your views on China made phone just here simply because even some of the best phones in the world are made in China nowadays.
David23
4 Oct 141#112
I have a similar chinese dual sim phone, best phone I ever owned and has been rock solid both in build quality and reliability for 2 years now. Probably wouldn't buy a major brand phone again with all the preloaded junk they put on them.
nik1
3 Oct 142#111
bought 2 last year and they lasted less than 6 months. the screen on one started to get lines on it and eventually couldn't see a thing. the other just packed up and reloading android didn't fix it. binned them
bdt_1978
3 Oct 14#110
a tenner!!?????
majortom
3 Oct 14#109
I've just got one of these from an amazon seller for about a tenner now. ..... It is brill! The battery lasts me 3 days.. response is fantastic. ... The only things were I needed to do was reboot it once to get everything like nfc working. .. highly recommended
edit ......predictive text huh!! should be ' a tenner more'
nik1
3 Oct 14#102
**** phone. crap quality. don't last. stay away
iliko to nik1
3 Oct 14#108
Can you elaborate a bit?
den169
3 Oct 14#107
Don't worry i'm sure you'll pass that dictionary you swallowed eventually.
jomay
3 Oct 14#106
Both id's were created 4-5h ago and only have made one comment and no other activity.
I wonder what you get for doing that?
hopefully_useful
3 Oct 14#105
ZTE Z7 mini. Available for around £180 delivered. (FHD 5" display, dual 4g sim support, quad core 2ghz Snapdragon 801 processor, 2gb ram, 16gb storage, micro sd card support, OTG, 13mp rear, 5mp front, supports google play when installed). Great reviews and selling like hot cakes...not available in Europe yet...
Please note however buying chinese phones there are sometimes problems with 4g support, do check frequencies. When researching i am yet to find a chinese phone (not available for sale in EU) which guarantees run on 800/2100/2600, most only on 2100/2600. Meaning you can only use 4g with EE and three so far. Some claim the 800 frequency has better range and coverage, there is debate over this and how much it will be utilised. At the moment 4g coverage is pretty spotty and mainly only cities where you should be fine whatever the frequency.
If you are not very tech savy i would not recommend chinese phones, many need language changes with new roms, as well as google play installed which can be tricky, some need to be rooted to do this...voiding the warranty. At the moment it is hard to beat the moto G's. But for the more tech savy there are some great deals with some risk in the chinese market, plenty of developer support for the major chinese brands.
chocolatenomlike
3 Oct 14#104
thanks, I would be forever grateful if that's possible. :smile: I've been wanting to get the OnePlusOne but have been unfortunate with invite codes :disappointed:
pibpob
3 Oct 141#103
You can do a lot worse than looking at the Moto G.
MaximusRo
3 Oct 141#100
All reviews point out the usual issues with chinese phones, and MTK chipsets.
Poor GPS performance, unstable OS, some apps not running etc.
Camera hardware is good, but quality is poor because of the implementation.
I would avoid, when there are decent phones on the market for same money or less.
clarkie1971 to MaximusRo
3 Oct 14#101
Please list a few. ☺
Azurren
3 Oct 14#99
The one thing which matters to me when buying a phone is how the dev scene is shaping up.
The popularity of branded phones usually leads to good 3rd party development which could support your phone years after official support is dropped..
I've become dependant on Cyanogenmod features :disappointed:
hkphooey
3 Oct 141#98
I think in general after trawling all these Chinese makes reviews is that 99.9% of them have some kind of annoying crash or problem built in and it would annoy me i think even the "oneplus" one the self proclaimed highest quality one has its issues.
hkphooey
3 Oct 14#97
Im tempted with these Chinese top spec hardware phones after being put off Samsung on my last phone which i bought second hand that was less then 2 years old and when i had a issue contacted samsung UK who said "NO WAY" on repair unless i had the original proof of purchase!!!! I was so naffed off i asked the ebay seller but he just said basically **** off i don't want to know i have thrown the receipt out or something to that effect.
otonytonton
3 Oct 14#96
Think I will pass on it then will need to throw it away when the battery packs up !!!!
otonytonton
3 Oct 14#94
Also Says the battery is non Removable
What's this all about ??
bdt_1978 to otonytonton
3 Oct 145#95
Normally means you are unable to remove the battery
pibpob
3 Oct 14#93
Hmm - I think that may say more about your Nexus than anything else. My Moto G has only randomly rebooted once in nine months if I remember correctly.
limpgoat
3 Oct 14#92
I just wanted to people to think closely about buying anything THL based on my own experiences.
I picked up a W200 last year and it's become nothing short of a whole catalog of problems. Firstly within days bright white hot spots started showing up on my screen. Next, the hard case it came with fell apart within a week. The plastic kept snapping and cracking off and that's from someone who's never even dropped a phone before.
Some time later I had the infamous "cannot connect to camera" error. Had to strip down and reassemble my phones camera connector to fix this. Even now it's not perfect, and I still get the error forcing me to replace the battery if I want to take a shot. Not very convienent is it, wanting to take a selfie with friends and explaining to them you have to remove your battery first and then reboot. They'll love the THL tune too, which you're subjected to each time you reboot.
We're not done yet. You'll randomly find it feeling very hot, turn it on and your battery has run down from 90% down to 27%. And whatever you do, do NOT let the LED indicator be left flashing. That'll also cause it to overheat and die too if left long enough.
Then there's the battery life. It is atrocious. It's about 26hr on standby. In use 2-3 max.
As for the THL 5000. WATCH OUT. I've been reading from XDA the newest batch have a very poor LCD with dull fading colors and poor contrast. Google it if you don't believe me.
Here's what I suspect suspect THL like to do. Ship out the first batch with good parts and components. Let the good reviews roll in so that people are suckered in. Then shortly after, switch newer batches to inferior components. Very sneaky and nasty.
Watch out.
josemobilio
3 Oct 14#90
Another viewpoint/pair of eyes for the seemingly Blind-Blinded and not for challenging any entity.
Mobiles made for the Chinese markets are spec-ed differently from mobiles for “Western” markets. This difference not only equates to the pricing/gouging-by-all-and-sundry, but also major niggles like “Google Play Store”, Gen-4/LTE, 0.935GB/3.08GB “Retinous Slowbug” RAM, etc.. As such, although Chinese targetted mobiles might be accomodated to Western tastes via “rooting”, they are invariable never 100% portable. For that, one has to weigh the balance between the gouged price and the portability/use-ability. Many Chinese enterprises are lanching products solely for Western markets albeit a learning curve has to be overcome with the in-between Mama-Papas doing a roaring trade for products too cheap to complain about or those that fit-in nicely. Then, the next learning curve is the support part. You cannot have pidgin Engrish support and run a Western-orientated business successfully in the long run. The Chinese knows that.
For those being compromised by price/the-gouging, the Chinese named-brands like Huawei or ZTE are worth investigating although the DNA of Downtown TelAviv-Kiev will be invested in there too. You know, the Greed-Fear factor factored into the Blind-Blinded who assume their ability to gouge is a privilege and an indication of being chosened. Just look at the specs for, say, the ZTE Nubia 7 Mini. Makes you wonder why, that for the smallish price differential, THL couldn’t have up the spec a little. There always being a reason for human Thought/Duality-of-Behaviour, perhaps ours is never to reason why other than to buy and regret. Caveat Empot. In addition, HUKD has become a bazaar for anything from Heaven to Da Mama-Papas posing as Da Next Best Thang to Godliness. Witness Da Worshipfuls of the UK disease variety, oka Dr Who, What & Where, and their penchant to worship given the slightest excuse. Afterall, when Eets soo Moneysupamarket is able to wrangle the odd £gazillions from Speculators/DeafNDumb, HUKD eyes are ablazed with Eet. Dat Ams Eets, that is.
bdt_1978 to josemobilio
3 Oct 141#91
I nodded off on line 3, please do not hurt our eyes with this cut and paste tripe again.... thanks
seanrtkelly
3 Oct 14#89
I've got a nexus 4. Apart from the problem with the dual six my phone is exactly the same. Turns off if using the camera. Random reboots. I still think it's an amazing, well branded UK sold phone. I think these problems on a cheap import are minor issues
harlequinn666
3 Oct 14#88
I was looking at the THL 5000 as the massive battery seemed attractive, but user reviews said the battery life wasn't as stellar as the specs would suggest.
I went instead with the Kingzone K1 Turbo. I've had it for 3 weeks so far and it's been excellent. Apart from the shakey bluetooth (drops every 4-5 minutes.. apparently a known problem hopefully getting sorted), the screen (vivid and bright), GPS (quick to lock and accurate), sound (from rear speaker and ear piece are both excellent), speed, and battery life are great. I've rooted mine, added 'Boosters Plus Battery Saver pro', and easily get 2 days from the phone. Heavy use (stream movies, autobrightness, wifi) I get about 5 hours on screen time, moderate use 1 full day and leftovers for the 2nd, light use I get 2 days and go to bed at 35% on the second day.
Sorry to ramble, but just another option for those looking at well specced, this price range, China-phones! The K1 ships from Germany for £172 (I received mine in 3 days)
I never knew about this drop off box for returns. I've never had a problem with them, just that they are not the cheapest of the Chinese retailers that deliver to the UK. But I would pay more for that convenience should things go wrong.
forcedv
3 Oct 141#86
What's the GPS like on these (most native Chinese phones that I've used take forever to lock and even lack a magnetic compass?
terry786
3 Oct 14#81
i got a cubot s208 , d olny difference is dat ds1 has gt 2gb ram whilst mine had olny 1gb wch works fine , also i gt it 4 £75.00 wch is alot cheaper than ds phone, if d price was abt £80-100 i might be interested otherwise cold 4me [d new motoG or X, now dats a fone] :man:
GodVilla to terry786
3 Oct 142#85
dis n dat?
MrFlux001
3 Oct 14#84
I've had 4 invites so far, if I get another i'll drop you a PM.
chris2000008
3 Oct 14#83
Guys just commenting on lead times.....the Chinese have recently just had a 'Golden holiday'.....this will explain any backlogs and extended leadtimes....in my business we always struggle getting kit out of China for a week or so until the forwarders/production has caught back up......I'm not commenting on the phones but just saying don't take this as an indicator of bad supplier.
bdt_1978
3 Oct 14#82
I am willing to bet the screen on this is not up to scratch
jon67
27 Sep 1410#20
Does this come with free Chinese spyware built in !
ChampionshipManager to jon67
3 Oct 141#80
Would that be preferable than NSA backdoors?
hopefully_useful
3 Oct 14#79
Contacted a few Chinese Sellers recently there seems to be a delay in the postal and customs service, many quoting an extra 2weeks delivery time! Mixed reviews over octa-core vs latest Qualcomm snapdragons, most apps do not utilise 8 cores yet. 4g does work with them but needs separate chip. Far better deal is the zte z7 mini which I will soon order after the postal delay passes. If you still want octa-core the lenovo a806 is 4g. THL are known for big batteries which is great if you get annoyed with charging everyday.
XNET
3 Oct 14#77
my son has got a thl t200, good phone and screen,knocks a crap out of s4,also got it to work on o2/tesco for data.bought from ebay
GodVilla to XNET
3 Oct 14#78
Thats a monster at 6"! I bet it could knock the crap out of a lot of phones.
iliko
3 Oct 14#76
Why do not you share it here and make your first post then?
MrCynical
3 Oct 14#75
I don't have one of these phones, but being a sucker for watching various "teardown" videos of phones and tablets, I've seen the size of various high capacity batteries, and this one to be the capacity it claims, would need to be a monster..........
As for cheap Chinese quality, the brand new iPhone6 only costs £140 to put out the door (with the larger 6plus costing only a tenner more) so you CAN get decent spec phones at a low price - as long as the manufacturer doesn't rip the pi$$ with its profit margins, a la Apple.
Bobef90
27 Sep 142#23
Don't buy from these people ....just a nightmare getting things sorted when it all goes wrong. Buy a used S4
hukduserr to Bobef90
3 Oct 14#73
a new s4 is now only 300 quids. better get a new one.
anyone have this? and will it receive updates? I had a Chinese one plus one and it would not receive ota updates.
GAVINLEWISHUKD to Hagmysta
30 Sep 14#69
No THL only offer updates via their website. It you want OTA updates you will have to stick to western big brand phones.
jacksonliam to Hagmysta
1 Oct 14#70
According to the review I linked earlier it gets OTA updates.
tsimehC
30 Sep 141#67
Nice try Grant. :wink:
GAVINLEWISHUKD
30 Sep 141#66
Same price at Pandawill and you can get a free second phone (cheap dual core) item is sku41806. Will be fine as a second phone.
pibpob
29 Sep 14#65
OK, but this battery claims to have two thirds more capacity.
boecima
29 Sep 14#64
well I bought my MTK Chinese phone 2 years ago, the battery stated 3000mh, it use to last 3 days whit light use, whit really really heavy usage 20-26 hour, now after 2 years I got 2 days light use, so far I runned out of battery far only once within a day.
The battery was the only reason I bought it , it have been a gamble but I feel won the bet!... if I compare to the Ipone of my I-enthusiasti/diot ... friend.. well I fell like I won the lottery. :wink: ... to note , the gps on mtk is almost worthless for navigation , i just use it to know were I am!!
irradiated
29 Sep 14#63
the only trouble ive found with non mainstream phones/tablets is the roms' get a good rom and there great, get a poor rom and youll be frustrated
for the spec and price this is hot as long as the rom works
Googlyhead
28 Sep 142#62
You might be trying to leave a positive impression (and believe this to be a decent phone), but having had at least 22 notable incidents in less than a year isn't the slightest bit reassuring!
If I had more than a single reboot (or indeed one!) in a year with my phone, I'd immediately be concerned about the reliability.
byb3
28 Sep 141#60
I bought a THL W300 Phone last year, which is a 6.5" beast.
I was a bit anxious about how it would turn out as it was quite a gamble and the phone cost a good £225 at the time.
However I've used this phone for almost a year now and my general overview is the phone is good quality.
The only problems I've encountered with the phone are:
1) The phone is dual sim, if you don't have a SIM in the second port the phone randomly locks itself (ie you have to type your PIN to continue with what you were doing). This was very frustrating for the first week but thankfully after I inserted the second SIM this issue disappeared.
2) The camera ocassionally crashes the phone. This is a battery removal job, but it is rare. I've probably had it happen less than 10 times in the year.
3) The phone will reboot on occasions for no known reason. This is also rare and I've only noticed it less than a dozen times over the year.
So I think overall the phone is well worth the money. Thankfully it comes with a leather case which has kept it protected, from all the nicks and cuts on the case I'm very glad to have it. The screen protector is also essential although my application has left a few air bubbles which I can live with.
So overall I would say THL phones are pretty decent. My experience with another brand, STAR N9599 for example was much poorer and I would not recommend that phone.
I've grown accustomed to the 6.5" phone so now I'm worried I won't be able to upgrade my 6.5" with another phone of the same size as it seems they've given up on that form factor and nothing is bigger than 5.7".
pibpob
28 Sep 14#59
This implies a smaller battery. :wink: What current does the charger claim to supply?
pibpob
28 Sep 14#58
Because we are trying to establish whether the manufacturer is telling the truth.
girvano741
28 Sep 141#57
perish the thought of getting a phone from China when you could have Samsung from Korea.
after all what does China know about technology ...
girvano741
28 Sep 14#56
mine only needs charged once every week. this an excellent phone. seems most of the geeky comments on this blog are just people quoting reviews and the usual he said she said crap.
if you want one, buy
if not, get a grip. as a thl 5000 very happy owner I will say this too you all...... uneducated. unfounded waffle
chrisbass
28 Sep 14#55
Why? Surely real world tests mean more than the actual capacity? If it lasts 3 days what does it matter if it's 5000 or 500?
mrmazz
26 Sep 141#14
dx.com, probably take 3 months to arrive..
iliko to mrmazz
27 Sep 141#16
"probably" is the key word here. As per http://cs.dx.com/FAQ/Detail/8 they deliver in 5-15 business days. I personally received all my orders within a month from DX.
Tibrocks to mrmazz
28 Sep 14#54
in the mean time the next iPhone will be released.. :smiley:
ykassana
28 Sep 141#52
Other reviews. As I've said this is a decent manufacturer, not some rubbish from China. Better build quality than your iPhone or sammy anyway. Reviews.
it might be a better quality than your average Chinese phone but saying it's better than any of the big manufacturers just sounds stupid :wink:
Robert_Mugabe
28 Sep 14#51
Yes a really sharp 5.7" screen.
Hagmysta
28 Sep 14#50
after a new phone. tempted between this or oneplus one, or to just wait for nexus 6? any ideas?
ykassana
28 Sep 14#49
I've bought this phone from antelife.com. comes rooted. So removing Chinese apps isn't a problem. Charging is fast. I got it within 3 days, dhl to the UK. Its a great phone. Lots of Roms out there on needrom.com. for the price its stunning. I'm a heavy user and I get around 3 days battery usage. Heck even the camera is good as far as camera phones go. A lot lies and misinformation on this thread guys. This is an amazing phone for the price and a not a thing wrong with it. The big guys need to take note. This has better build quality and arguably the number one seller, decent Roms and great battery life.
iliko
28 Sep 14#48
19Wh × 1000 / 3.8V = 5000mAh
vcom99
27 Sep 14#47
perhaps better phone than £600 iBend+ from apple.
pibpob
27 Sep 14#46
I'd much prefer "we did a proper scientific test by removing the battery and testing it with a proper analyser (or even just a multimeter and a light bulb!) to determine its true capacity.
fix
27 Sep 142#43
I love all the people saying the battery capacity isn't true, THL are a very well renowned Chinese manufacturer and just because you don't believe things doesn't mean they're not true.
pibpob to fix
27 Sep 141#45
Don't you think that if this were as good as claimed, the likes of Apple and Samsung wouldn't have jumped on it already?
I think jacksonliam's on to it: I guess as the manufacturer doesn't have to worry about anyone returning it under warranty, they can just do what others don't - discharge the battery beyond its safe limits, thereby yielding extra capacity but reducing its life. I doubt it'll last two years. Bear in mind that the extremetech article only talks about a current 20% improvement, so if it's any more than 20% smaller volume than any other 5Ah cell then they're telling porkies and/or abusing it.
"we saw 3 days of life early on, and we would expect this to be around the norm for light to general use. Yesterday we were out gaming and doing navigation with the phone, and came back with around 65% on the battery."
Makes me wonder what this battery could do with a better SoC and more efficient display!
FYI for things like video watching you'd probably get similar battery life out of something like a Note 3. The Huawei Ascend Mate2 4G is one of the best for battery life if you're willing to take the spec hit.
hukdealz
27 Sep 14#41
quoting the website
'world's first smartphone with 5000mAh battery'
either you're lying, or they're lying.
I think it's both
hukdealz
27 Sep 14#40
5000mah is an outright lie
pibpob
27 Sep 14#39
How do you know that for sure? I'd be very interested to know what else you're referring to - and especially its dimensions.
girvano741
27 Sep 142#38
I have on of these phones. bought about 3 months ago.
not a single complaint. camera. battery. apps . video. exactly as advertised
very happy with my purchase. you folk read to many reviews
Sliwka
27 Sep 142#17
Better to buy from eBay for £189, don't pay tax charges and have 1year year warranty
dereklogan7 to Sliwka
27 Sep 14#37
And will probably get delivered a box with a brick in it. :sunglasses:
rp7122
27 Sep 141#34
There is no way that is has 5000mAh battery fitting in that size case, so can't help but wonder what else they are lying about.
AhmadCentral to rp7122
27 Sep 14#36
No they're right. It does have a 5000mAh battery.
Besides, it's not the first phone to have a battery capacity of that size.
moppalady
27 Sep 14#35
could this be anthoer newman n2 because that phone was a mess
Aquaslim
27 Sep 141#33
Yes it does (to spy on your boring life)...
furi0n
27 Sep 14#32
You can buy it from dealextreme. Although some have said its a 'chinese' version, in that 4G is restricted to some networks, namely EE I think.
petethebigone
26 Sep 1417#7
I bought a phone from them, never again, it had a problem from new, they told me that it would cost me a lot of money to send it back and it would take weeks to be sorted, then offerd me about a fiver to keep it, my advice is AVIOD
iliko to petethebigone
26 Sep 142#8
I bought tens of phones from them and they have got Drop Off Box For Return here in the UK.
ATTN: Grant
Unit E10, Voyage Park, Portfield Road
Portsmouth Hampshire po3 5fl
UNITED KINGDOM
therealDelboy to petethebigone
27 Sep 143#31
Unfortunately I had the same experience.Never again will I buy from them.
AhmadCentral
27 Sep 141#30
A tad expensive for the spec. I'd expect 4G at this price.
789HHEELLOO
27 Sep 14#29
Seems a good price but would rather get a one plus one on eBay or Amazon.
garbage456
27 Sep 141#28
5000mah battery, really ??
Robert_Mugabe
27 Sep 142#25
Some of these Asian phones are excellent.
Currently using an Elephone P8 ( I know the name is totally class ) !
Probably the best value per performance phone I have ever had.
Picked one up on eBay from a UK supplier with extra battery and option of pre rooted for £160.
They are about £135 from Aliexpress etc for about £135 with no extra battery and no rooting and the possibility of customs nabbing you.
GodVilla to Robert_Mugabe
27 Sep 14#27
5.7 inch?
komi
27 Sep 14#26
Yeah, strangely I got my invite on my birthday
mr_deals
27 Sep 141#24
I bet this doesn't bend :stuck_out_tongue:
redduck
27 Sep 14#22
I'm calling bull on the quoted battery capacity but otherwise a good spec for the money. you may need to add import duty though. Good find.
paul_merton
27 Sep 14#21
The last phone I got from DealExtreme had Windows malware preinstalled on the micro SD card (and set up to try and autorun)... so yeah, be careful :smiley:
wpj
27 Sep 141#19
Don't forget that this is 850/2100 rather than 900/2100 which is European specs. Seems that Lenovo are the only ones to do 900/2100 on their Chinese phones.
chocolatenomlike
27 Sep 141#18
did you get an invite?
so jealous :laughing:
Adrian7
26 Sep 141#12
If you go for a phone like this - get one that has some following on XDA as it will be forgotten even sooner than Samsung, LG, etc. forget about their phones. You'd be lucky if you get 1-2 updates before that's it.
iliko to Adrian7
26 Sep 14#15
Any examples of models on similar or close specs?
komi
26 Sep 14#13
Specs are good, would have got this but I have a 1+1 now. 2.0Ghz true octa core sounds awesome tho :smiley: with 1080p and 2gb ram
loofer
26 Sep 14#11
Agree, the specs are different on critical things like dual sim and SD card slot if that's wha you want.
Nexus 5 was just an example but I'm sure the user experience and support would be vastly superior with the Nexus 5.
I bought a Tronsmart TS7 myself from Geekbuying. I'm cool with buying a mobile from Far East but it's it's got to be a phenomenal saving for me before I do. If it's marginally cheaper to a UK market comparable then I wouldn't bother IMO
loofer
26 Sep 14#6
Resolution is usually poor on some the larger sized mobiles but this one seems good.
But at £165 I would probably spend just that bit more and get something like a Nexus 5
iliko to loofer
26 Sep 141#10
This phones are different specs though
welder299
26 Sep 145#9
Great advice. will AVOID. Thanks
gibblesuk
26 Sep 141#5
Also issues running some latest version apps (youtube)
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Only one hardware problem was the speaker went crackly. I'm ok with electronics (needed two tiny wires soldering), so a £8 new speaker direct from THL and it has been fine since. The screen can be a bit picky about being clean and seems like the screen is unresponsive when lots of greasy fingerprints are on it. A good clean with proper degreasing screen cleaner and its fine. Battery life superb. So Bang for buck - great phone.
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Doesn't the Samsung S5 Dual Sim work on the 800 band?
True the ZTE only has quad core........this is not a big difference in terms of overall performance of the phone (benchmarks in reviews). I did not go into a comparison versus number of cores as they are different chips by different brands. It is more comparable if in fact they were both mediatek chips then it could be a fair comparison. There are mixed reviews over the performance of the 8 core mediatek processors and to me it seems like they have been pushed out too early and do not have components to match there potential. Therefore more of a sales push and effectively bottlenecking devices. I am sure they will have advantages in the future but for now the snapdragon chips have lower power consumption (no larger batteries needed) and much better integration with other chipsets enabling fast gps, stable wifi, faster memory support, smoother graphics and intregated 4g.
Will it mean slower 3g speeds? I'm on the three network.
I've tried googling but their seems to be little info regarding frequencies
They are also produced by companies that are completely unknown outside China. THL is a good example, but there are some even more exotic.
I would also refer you to comment #105 for more on this.
I am aware of branded goods being made in China. but they use superior materials and you pay the price.
You had a problem with that so you should have come up with a different term. Which you weren't capable of doing...
Acer has a few Dual SIM models as well.
"Android is basically built upon Linux kernel which does utilize mulit-core. As far as single-threaded-application is concerned, remember that a thread can not be executed in-parts on different cores simultaneously. So although your single-thread can be executed by different cores at different point in times, it can not be sub-divided and executed by different cores at the same time.
Having said that, please be aware that chipset manufacturers like Qualcomm are developing intelligent processors capable of sub-dividing your single-threaded app into multiple threads and have it run on different cores. Here again, the basic principle remains same - in order to utilize multi-core, the single thread was sub-divided into multiple threads.
To get the most out of your multi-core chip, you would rather create a multi-threaded app, with maximum possible asynchronous threads, so as to have optimum utilization of maximum number of cores. Hope this clears.
EDIT:
This also translates to - An app that does not make use of multiple asynchronous threads (or any other parallelism construct) will NOT use more than one core."
Android app design guidelines, for a long time, have had a focus of pushing taks off the UI thead and onto background threads.
Yes, a quad core with a higher clock speed or better architecture would likely make more of a noticable impact than adding four more cores, but it does make some impact.
Also worth noting is the 'race to rest' - the method of saving battery life by having the processor completing tasks faster so it can clock down into a low power mode quicker.
edit ......predictive text huh!! should be ' a tenner more'
I wonder what you get for doing that?
Please note however buying chinese phones there are sometimes problems with 4g support, do check frequencies. When researching i am yet to find a chinese phone (not available for sale in EU) which guarantees run on 800/2100/2600, most only on 2100/2600. Meaning you can only use 4g with EE and three so far. Some claim the 800 frequency has better range and coverage, there is debate over this and how much it will be utilised. At the moment 4g coverage is pretty spotty and mainly only cities where you should be fine whatever the frequency.
If you are not very tech savy i would not recommend chinese phones, many need language changes with new roms, as well as google play installed which can be tricky, some need to be rooted to do this...voiding the warranty. At the moment it is hard to beat the moto G's. But for the more tech savy there are some great deals with some risk in the chinese market, plenty of developer support for the major chinese brands.
Poor GPS performance, unstable OS, some apps not running etc.
Camera hardware is good, but quality is poor because of the implementation.
I would avoid, when there are decent phones on the market for same money or less.
The popularity of branded phones usually leads to good 3rd party development which could support your phone years after official support is dropped..
I've become dependant on Cyanogenmod features :disappointed:
What's this all about ??
I picked up a W200 last year and it's become nothing short of a whole catalog of problems. Firstly within days bright white hot spots started showing up on my screen. Next, the hard case it came with fell apart within a week. The plastic kept snapping and cracking off and that's from someone who's never even dropped a phone before.
Some time later I had the infamous "cannot connect to camera" error. Had to strip down and reassemble my phones camera connector to fix this. Even now it's not perfect, and I still get the error forcing me to replace the battery if I want to take a shot. Not very convienent is it, wanting to take a selfie with friends and explaining to them you have to remove your battery first and then reboot. They'll love the THL tune too, which you're subjected to each time you reboot.
We're not done yet. You'll randomly find it feeling very hot, turn it on and your battery has run down from 90% down to 27%. And whatever you do, do NOT let the LED indicator be left flashing. That'll also cause it to overheat and die too if left long enough.
Then there's the battery life. It is atrocious. It's about 26hr on standby. In use 2-3 max.
As for the THL 5000. WATCH OUT. I've been reading from XDA the newest batch have a very poor LCD with dull fading colors and poor contrast. Google it if you don't believe me.
Here's what I suspect suspect THL like to do. Ship out the first batch with good parts and components. Let the good reviews roll in so that people are suckered in. Then shortly after, switch newer batches to inferior components. Very sneaky and nasty.
Watch out.
Mobiles made for the Chinese markets are spec-ed differently from mobiles for “Western” markets. This difference not only equates to the pricing/gouging-by-all-and-sundry, but also major niggles like “Google Play Store”, Gen-4/LTE, 0.935GB/3.08GB “Retinous Slowbug” RAM, etc.. As such, although Chinese targetted mobiles might be accomodated to Western tastes via “rooting”, they are invariable never 100% portable. For that, one has to weigh the balance between the gouged price and the portability/use-ability. Many Chinese enterprises are lanching products solely for Western markets albeit a learning curve has to be overcome with the in-between Mama-Papas doing a roaring trade for products too cheap to complain about or those that fit-in nicely. Then, the next learning curve is the support part. You cannot have pidgin Engrish support and run a Western-orientated business successfully in the long run. The Chinese knows that.
For those being compromised by price/the-gouging, the Chinese named-brands like Huawei or ZTE are worth investigating although the DNA of Downtown TelAviv-Kiev will be invested in there too. You know, the Greed-Fear factor factored into the Blind-Blinded who assume their ability to gouge is a privilege and an indication of being chosened. Just look at the specs for, say, the ZTE Nubia 7 Mini. Makes you wonder why, that for the smallish price differential, THL couldn’t have up the spec a little. There always being a reason for human Thought/Duality-of-Behaviour, perhaps ours is never to reason why other than to buy and regret. Caveat Empot. In addition, HUKD has become a bazaar for anything from Heaven to Da Mama-Papas posing as Da Next Best Thang to Godliness. Witness Da Worshipfuls of the UK disease variety, oka Dr Who, What & Where, and their penchant to worship given the slightest excuse. Afterall, when Eets soo Moneysupamarket is able to wrangle the odd £gazillions from Speculators/DeafNDumb, HUKD eyes are ablazed with Eet. Dat Ams Eets, that is.
I went instead with the Kingzone K1 Turbo. I've had it for 3 weeks so far and it's been excellent. Apart from the shakey bluetooth (drops every 4-5 minutes.. apparently a known problem hopefully getting sorted), the screen (vivid and bright), GPS (quick to lock and accurate), sound (from rear speaker and ear piece are both excellent), speed, and battery life are great. I've rooted mine, added 'Boosters Plus Battery Saver pro', and easily get 2 days from the phone. Heavy use (stream movies, autobrightness, wifi) I get about 5 hours on screen time, moderate use 1 full day and leftovers for the 2nd, light use I get 2 days and go to bed at 35% on the second day.
Sorry to ramble, but just another option for those looking at well specced, this price range, China-phones! The K1 ships from Germany for £172 (I received mine in 3 days)
http://en.comebuy.com/cell-phones-android-cell-phone-5-inch-phones-om46886.html
Hope that helps someone :smiley:
ALSO: The THL 5000 is £16 cheaper here http://en.comebuy.com/cell-phones-android-cell-phone-5-inch-phones-om46840.html
so cold vote from me I'm afraid.. looks to come with all the same accessories as well.
:man:
As for cheap Chinese quality, the brand new iPhone6 only costs £140 to put out the door (with the larger 6plus costing only a tenner more) so you CAN get decent spec phones at a low price - as long as the manufacturer doesn't rip the pi$$ with its profit margins, a la Apple.
The battery was the only reason I bought it , it have been a gamble but I feel won the bet!... if I compare to the Ipone of my I-enthusiasti/diot ... friend.. well I fell like I won the lottery. :wink: ... to note , the gps on mtk is almost worthless for navigation , i just use it to know were I am!!
for the spec and price this is hot as long as the rom works
If I had more than a single reboot (or indeed one!) in a year with my phone, I'd immediately be concerned about the reliability.
I was a bit anxious about how it would turn out as it was quite a gamble and the phone cost a good £225 at the time.
However I've used this phone for almost a year now and my general overview is the phone is good quality.
The only problems I've encountered with the phone are:
1) The phone is dual sim, if you don't have a SIM in the second port the phone randomly locks itself (ie you have to type your PIN to continue with what you were doing). This was very frustrating for the first week but thankfully after I inserted the second SIM this issue disappeared.
2) The camera ocassionally crashes the phone. This is a battery removal job, but it is rare. I've probably had it happen less than 10 times in the year.
3) The phone will reboot on occasions for no known reason. This is also rare and I've only noticed it less than a dozen times over the year.
So I think overall the phone is well worth the money. Thankfully it comes with a leather case which has kept it protected, from all the nicks and cuts on the case I'm very glad to have it. The screen protector is also essential although my application has left a few air bubbles which I can live with.
So overall I would say THL phones are pretty decent. My experience with another brand, STAR N9599 for example was much poorer and I would not recommend that phone.
I've grown accustomed to the 6.5" phone so now I'm worried I won't be able to upgrade my 6.5" with another phone of the same size as it seems they've given up on that form factor and nothing is bigger than 5.7".
after all what does China know about technology ...
if you want one, buy
if not, get a grip. as a thl 5000 very happy owner I will say this too you all...... uneducated. unfounded waffle
http://www.reddit.com/r/chinaphones/comments/2cvqlg/review_a_quick_review_for_thl_5000/
https://www.chinavasion.com/china/wholesale/Android_Phones/Large_Screen_Android_Phones/THL_5000_Octa_Core_Phone_-_5_Inch_1920x1080_Corning_Gorilla_Glass_IPS_OGS_Screen_5000mAh_Battery_16GB_Micro_SD_Card_Black/#cu_reviewa
http://www.gizchina.com/2014/09/17/thl-5000-review/
I think jacksonliam's on to it: I guess as the manufacturer doesn't have to worry about anyone returning it under warranty, they can just do what others don't - discharge the battery beyond its safe limits, thereby yielding extra capacity but reducing its life. I doubt it'll last two years. Bear in mind that the extremetech article only talks about a current 20% improvement, so if it's any more than 20% smaller volume than any other 5Ah cell then they're telling porkies and/or abusing it.
http://www.redferret.net/?p=45775
"we saw 3 days of life early on, and we would expect this to be around the norm for light to general use. Yesterday we were out gaming and doing navigation with the phone, and came back with around 65% on the battery."
http://www.androidauthority.com/review-of-thl-5000-410058/
This is probably just (relatively) new battery tech making its way to market http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/174477-at-long-last-new-lithium-battery-tech-actually-arrives-on-the-market-and-might-already-be-in-your-smartphone
These far east companies don't have to worry about the battery lasting only 12-24 months or providing replacements.
Makes me wonder what this battery could do with a better SoC and more efficient display!
FYI for things like video watching you'd probably get similar battery life out of something like a Note 3. The Huawei Ascend Mate2 4G is one of the best for battery life if you're willing to take the spec hit.
'world's first smartphone with 5000mAh battery'
either you're lying, or they're lying.
I think it's both
I'd be very interested to know what else you're referring to - and especially its dimensions.
not a single complaint. camera. battery. apps . video. exactly as advertised
very happy with my purchase. you folk read to many reviews
Besides, it's not the first phone to have a battery capacity of that size.
ATTN: Grant
Unit E10, Voyage Park, Portfield Road
Portsmouth Hampshire po3 5fl
UNITED KINGDOM
Currently using an Elephone P8 ( I know the name is totally class ) !
Probably the best value per performance phone I have ever had.
Picked one up on eBay from a UK supplier with extra battery and option of pre rooted for £160.
They are about £135 from Aliexpress etc for about £135 with no extra battery and no rooting and the possibility of customs nabbing you.
so jealous :laughing:
Nexus 5 was just an example but I'm sure the user experience and support would be vastly superior with the Nexus 5.
I bought a Tronsmart TS7 myself from Geekbuying. I'm cool with buying a mobile from Far East but it's it's got to be a phenomenal saving for me before I do. If it's marginally cheaper to a UK market comparable then I wouldn't bother IMO
But at £165 I would probably spend just that bit more and get something like a Nexus 5
See customer reviews and replies on this page
http://www.thlmobilestore.com/thl-5000-mtk6592-octa-core-android-4-2-2gb-32gb-smartphone-5-0-inch.html